Digging At Dunwich Before It's Lost To Sea | Time Team | Timeline
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- Опубліковано 29 чер 2020
- Tony Robinson and the team head to Dunwich. Coastal erosion has eaten away most of this once-bustling settlement, and before the whole place is lost to the sea, there's a last chance to find out more about the lost origins of this dramatically situated town. They don't just concern themselves with dry land though, employing high-tech sonar to explore the large portion of the medieval town that already lies beneath the waves.
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I just started watching time team about a month ago and I’m in love with this series. History is amazing . RIP Mick Aston we lost a legend when we lost you
These have kept me company, and sane during many a downdays. I wish American history shows were this thorough. Aside from the ones on PBS most history shows here are more dumbed down hype than actual facts 😒.
I don't even bother with TV for historical documentaries any longer. There is quite a bit of quality content on UA-cam that fits the bill. The History Channel is nothing but aliens, antique pickers, and pawn stars. I honestly can't even remember what year it was when I last saw something of actual historical content on the History Channel.
Indeed. I agree.
@@Davivd2 I have comcast cable so I have the "History Vault" channel, which is actually really good, it's like where they put all of the real history documentaries. Also the channel Curiousity Stream is really good for history docs.
@@kevinpaul1847 Thanks I will check that out.
@@kevinpaul1847 interesting i have comcast also and have never heard about it
I don't know who I am, I don’t know why I'm here, All I know is that I must watch every Time Team episode ever made.
@Horacio Schlicker for anyone wondering this is a scam and also wrong, ethically and legally.
Seems that I've heard this quote before! What do they call that?
@@milliebanks7209 Serendipity
What I wish History Channel could be. Great series! Interesting, fun, historical, cultural!
It was a lot more like this, once upon a time...
Agreed, the "History" channel went the way of "music" television (Mtv) and The "learning" channel (TLC), ect... years ago now...The all mighty advertising $$$$ comes for all of them sooner rather than later..
What you don't like monster quest? 🤣
If History Channel did these who would do the important work of uncovering Alien conspiracies and gene splicing?
It’s a shame American tv refuses to take a page out of Britain’s approach to quality tv production. Thank God for UA-cam and other documentary services so those of us in this hideous drought can continue watching quality programs!!!❤️❤️❤️🙌🏻🙌🏻🙌🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🤗😍🥰🤓
I don’t really know of any shows like this anymore. Everything went to blaming aliens for everything.
@@joshw9037 🙄😂🤣
American tv is designed to dumb down the masses... Certainly it is working...Except...the internet is doing the opposite for many...
@@beastshawnee nope, America keeps getting dumber. The internet puts truth in their faces and they 'believe what they saw on tv'
What are we going to show? We will be looking for stuff that happened yesterday in historical times. I know we have some history but in season one we would show it all.
It was a good thing, in a way, that the Victorians used red brick to patch up the ruin, however ridiculous it may look, and didn't try using the authentic material. So that we today, we can easily differentiate between the heritage material and their conservation attempt.
Very nicely stated and distinguished.
I've become hooked on these great ancient castle digs, my Mom always wished she could have been an archeologist. I must have it in my blood, too, because I love every step of the process and especially the graphic illustrations of the forts, castles and the surrounding areas, represented as they likely appeared in their heyday. Keep up the great work and I thank you for sharing your work and knowledge. Fascinating!!
Al Stewart, "The Coldest Winter in Memory".
The coldest winter in memory was 1709
The sea froze off the coast of France all along the Neptune line
By the lost town of Dunwich the shore was washed away
They say you hear the church bells still as they toll beneath the waves
I love how Phil is always so animated when he talking!
I love the little boy that is alive and well in Phil we all could use some of that
I like Tony a lot, but I can see how he can be a pain in the neck to archeologists now and then.
He is a narrator, all the others are archaeologists. There IS a difference LOL
So good to see Mick again. I knew he'd never really leave us.
This really enforce the point that everything is ephemeral. This also taught me that I've had the English pronunciation of Dunwich wrong all my life. (French is my first language)
M'en parle pas... Je n'ai toujours pas compris la différence entre pitch, ditch and witch. No, I'm kidding.
@Eleni 1979
_.......we_ (the *English* people) _have really everything in common with_ *America* _nowadays, except, of course, language._ *Oscar Wilde.*
@Eleni 1979
Keep trying, soon you'll learn _proper_ *English,* but just make sure it's not *_Ernie Wise's_** English. Shakespeare* is better!
english is my native language, and i’ve been saying it wrong too lol
One day I hope these guys get onto a site where they can have some substantial time on location. Id love a whole series on a single site. It would be awesome to see the progression of a more thorough investigation. Most of the time I just end these videos frustrated with what was left untouched and unanswered. I mean, I get that some locations are just highly restrictive, but ones like the Roman farmhouse/villa shouldn't be given up on after 3 days. Especially when you're just starting to get the lay of the land in the last 3 hours on location.
A comment I saw awhile back was that these people have other jobs and so this is started as a side gig or something. The show is meant to like draw people in with a bit of exploring history without over doing it. But I do agree that now that they have grown more they should be doing longer excavations. Don't exactly know how that would affect their viewings on a whole though.
@@hazelmykitten1067
The cost would go up far more than the viewer ratings could justify.
Right on Julian S, but I think that Phil Aypee has the answer to that question in his reply. Only us few that geek out on this stuff would see the whole series and not justify the cost, however there should be a point longer than 3 days that could be justified. Maybe even a fundraising page for digs that might be interesting to a greater number of people.
observations for today:
dunwich is pronounced "dunnich", not "dun-which" like i had assumed for some decades
mick is an anthropological god who can look at a random farm landscape and pick if it's prehistoric, anglo saxon or roman, or something else
i wish i was a 16th as amazing as mick
If i had the money, i would have teams like this all over Europe surveying before this history is lost forever
If it was only a financial issue, I’m sure it would have already gone to a scale we couldn’t imagine. Think of the monetary/historical value these things have... people would have swarmed if it were possible.
Look at shipwrecks and how that turned out...
If history were entirely perfectly preserved, it would have no value. The value of relics is that theyre lost. If things dont fade with time, then no one even cares if they get preserved
@Napoleon Hercules because of climate change and rising sea levels a lot of this history will fall into the ocean and be washed away. Instead of trying to dig it all up fast we need to stop abusing the world and causing climate change to save not just history but current peoples homes and cities and mankind as a whole. Buy a secondhand bike and park your car, work from home, put up some solar panels and turn off your air conditioning. That’s a start. I’m sure you can think of some things you can do today to help.
@@private15 There are still many of us who do NOT buy into the 'climate change' hysteria. Please don't use that to 'prove your point'. It's BUNK
Fantastic program! Thank you so much for share with us
The 'pub' scene reminds me that some of the best science is done with a drink and good humor.
Some of the best EVERYTHING is done in a pub with a nice beverage and good humour
It also makes me a bit sad that is Americans don’t seem to have a pub culture like the British do. Idk, it seems like such a pleasant way to end the day but most people I know (and I don’t know many) would want to get drunk and bar crawl instead.
You can see how desperate newcomer Mary-Ann Ochota was to earn approval. She was given snippets of exposure but other team members objected to her inclusion. Eventually she quit.
From what i see in modern google satellite maps, comparing them to the time team maps they were using, Dunwich is faring rather well since the filming of this, over 20 years later. Looks like from the modern maps the erosion has slowed down considerably. There is some cracks along the cliff edge. But none too serious right now.
I'm sure there was no tv drama included🙄
Welp this is where I hate to tell you this was part of the last of the Time Team series, this was aired Feb 5, 2012. Its only been 9 years. There is about 220 ft in the older Google Satellite database images before the cliffs are gone and the ruins begin to go into the sea but those are old images, Google doesn't show you how old satellite footage is unless ya hop onto Google Earth, the ruins last images were from 05/09/2020. Currently the rate of erosion is roughly 1 meter (3 ft roughly) per year. So the ruins have another good 70 years-ish IF things don't speed up. Its not as pressed for time as some would think but at a certain point they can't get close to the site and dig so now is better than say another 40 years from now when it has lost another 120 ft.
@@RinVindor101 I was driving near san Francisco in 2004 or so. I spotted a full size ship which was beached on the sand. It turned out to be a sand pump which the US Army Corps of Engineers to pump sand from the Pacific onto beaches which had been eroded by storms. Maybe Dunwich should have a "Go Fund Me" to save England from washing into the sea. They could hire the Americans.
@@stanthology Or ask the dutch, they have experience with building even below sea level
IDK if I'll EVER get a response to this question but I have to ask it. Is Tracey Smith related to Phil? Cause they look EXACTLY alike and speak the same way. Doofy Murikan here so I don't know much more about the cast than Tony was in BlackAdder, And that I miss Mick Aston...RIP. I made myself sad now... :(
There have got to be all kinds of artifacts washing out as those cliffs erode.
You sure would think, especially hearing towards the beginning how they were speaking on it.
What I can't understand is why people don't do anything to at least slow down this erosion. Building some massive breakwater all along the coast would be prohibitively expansive, but planting fast growing trees along the current bank is actually quite easy and cheap. A continuous strip of forest say 200 meters wide starting at about 50 meters from the current bank (to allow the trees time to grow big enough roots) would certainly make a big difference in the near future and most likely become a very pleasant landscape feature. There are also some fast growing weeds that lock down sandy soils, not as well as trees but much faster, these can be seeded each spring all along the current edge to buy more time for the forest strip to grow strong enough.
Indeed. restoring the ecology invariably has a remedial effect. What you see is a coastline stripped bare by decades of intense agriculture.
What amazing historical details, structures, and layouts you all reveal in just three days! This data will provide knowledge - itself fodder for further analysis long into the future. You may look for historical treasure, but you are, yourselves, treasure.
28:20 - Blaming the horse for not digging!
"Digging At Dunwich Before It's Lost To Sea" - The Horror!
There are many sites across the globe that have been reclaimed by Poseidon.
Dunwich - Horror - Lovecraft - Chthulu. Guess you had to be there.
the irony that the real dunwich is falling into the realm of dagon and cthulhu
Time Team is such a cunning show
Out in the middle of nowhere, with a site that is going to be gone, it's too bad they didn't make this a 5-day effort instead of the 3-day standard one.
Ye, truly.
Going to be gone? Really?
This was filmed a decade ago, when TT made it sound like an emergency dig due to "soil erosion". It was their LAST CHANCE!!!!!
It's all still there, clear as day on Google maps. Hasn't changed one bit.
Does the ocean wash away some coastline? Sure. But nowhere near enough to catch up with how the coastline is built up higher and deeper. If it did, there'd be no land masses left by now.
Keep digging until you find petrified stool!
Phil is correct, a shovel works better when you sharpen it. =)
Dunwich Borers? They're nuts.! If you know, then you know lol.
Every episode. That guy driving the excavator.❤
Ian Barclay! Legend!
The same storm in 1287 washed almost half of Holland away too. Several thousands killed.
I love Time Team
thank you
Idk why but Tony wearing Vans is surprising
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Phil admired Helen's huge ditch
I stopped this @ 1:42. The boat Thelma as in Thelma Healy brings back fond memories of my first girlfriend at Gosport area . We were both about 10 or 11 years old then. She was as pretty as a fresh painted boat too!
I have 'The World of Wonder' encyclopedias from 1936. It has a map of England and Wales, showing the total land that has been lost to the sea. Quite interesting, and quite a lot. There could be more anti-erosion barriers.
I'll add here that yet when I show that map to people from England, they don't seem to be interested.
Phil “It’s divin’ down” Harding
24:43 Wash your hands, Tony!!
Sees sharp rock "Brilliant!"
Sees wet rock "NOOOOOOOOOOO!!!"
It made me sad to see the photographs showing the progression of the sea eating the ruins away
These are very old Time Team posts! They are still available on UA-cam......
@Kenneth Knoppik ----- I think another 20-+yrs have gone by. That allows for much more of the area too slide down?
@@deserthunter8363 Well, now we need to find someone who lives in the area to post a recent pic. I know "google maps"....but wheres the fun in that?
I haven't seen this one yet.
Sometimes I wonder how John doesn’t completely lose is temper 🤭
also i would love to know if ian the digger driver is still around. he has obtained god-like status to me, along with chris corner and the stig
Thank you for mentioning Ian! He is quite skilled with his machine, in fact he has a talent! I do hope that he is still around.
@@milliebanks7209
*Ian Barclay* died a while ago.
He could peel a banana with a digger. There's a video here of him doing just that - and a couple of other tricks.
@@philaypeephilippotter6532 where is that video?
Anyone know where I can get a leather waist bag similar to the one Phil is always carrying?
Try *Amazon.*
Crazy how much land the sea took
It takes from one spot and gives to another. Tat is why you need to take the WHOLE earth into account
First aired February 5, 2012
???
@@joshw9037 Not seeing what you are confused about. It simply states the date that the episode aired.
Geo John sure doesn’t take getting ribbed too well
In the USA we have a lot of small towns dying off with no economic center near enough to keep them alive-even as a bedroom community off a larger City...Currently the bedroom communities in my area of mid Missouri was are boooooming with new houses, new businesses and all the old railroad based towns are dying-except for where the Mexican Immigrant Community is rebuilding some of them! A few factory poultry processing plants are “saving” a few if you consider polluting the entire area saving it...But I can see in a thousand years some archeologists digging up...Pierce City for example...LOL...
The building was clearly outlined when they flew over...no one mentions it?
I LOVE this program! Am wondering: silly question here BUT why not, with all this so called Modern tech, they don't shore up what is remaining of the coastline, and save it, instead of just doing nothing and moving on and letting everything fall back into the water... at some point, any burials that remain on this sandy land, is either gonna have to be recovered and exhumed and moved, or just let all that history and those people of old just fall in the water with the other two churches?? Trying to understand this..BTW Love Phil's cheers " to the sand" on the night of day two, to Tony:-)
To do as you suggest would cost many billions of pounds, much more than any official or preservation body could afford.
Just now seeing this in July 2020. Not in England at the moment. Can anyone tell me if the area in, and around Dunwich was, indeed flooded out after all? As much as I loved this program I have never understood WHY program participants only allowed themselves 3 days?
The archæologists were all professionally employed as archæologists elsewhere, 3 days is quite common for exploratory excavations and the programme was otherwise very expensive.
So what is the name of Dunwich in Doomesday-book?
Dunevik/Dunevyk? (Duinwijk)
Hi guys these stone markings in rocks are imprints from deterirated
items the rock has petrified or melted and fused these imprints. wtach
the channel called: wise up. it makes so much more sense than the
narrative we have been fed since schooliing.
I wonder if those are Phil’s lucky jorts
what's with the three day deadline? i've watched a few episodes now and they always could go on for a longer time and find more... kind of annoys me. or is there a good reason for it?
Yes.
It was a very expensive production and the archæologists were paid very little so they could usually only afford three days from their regular jobs. Nevertheless three days is enough for most evaluation digs, as most of these were.
@@philaypeephilippotter6532 cheers!
@@hansjakobwurst
Your quite welcome. Check out *TT Official* as they are going to do at least one more dig soon.
I thought the solution to coastal erosion was to dump great blocks of concrete and steel at the foot of the cliffs to protect from the surf. Or to build breakwaters
Why dont they put something to slow the rate of erosion?
If Dunwich is really pronounced Dun-ich, does that mean Sandwich is pronounced Sand-ich?
Why are the Time Team digs always limited to three days?
It was a very expensive production and the archæologists were paid very little so they could usually only afford three days from their regular jobs. Nevertheless three days is enough for most evaluation digs, as most of these were.
😳mother nature is so scary😳
😆what a fun *comedy*
Tony Robinson never ages
Alex!!
First time seeing him in modern clothing.
Why no shore erosion control?
ToasterBrain My question as well....breakwaters off shore?
@@QueenBee-gx4rp
Expense. Political will.
Cost. .Aldeburgh has slot of money spent on sea defence and Southwold etc etc. Can't save everywhere.
I think there really needs to be a dive done for further evidence off that coast.
I did a research paper in college on Dunwich. There have been extensive underwater archeology studies and have been recorded in the publication Underwater Archeology. I even met the author of the paper during my research. There is so much more that could have been covered about Dunwich that is absolutely fascinating. I walked the cliffs, I walked the beach and went to the museum and spoke with the curator. There was (in 1993-1994) graves eroding bones into the sea from a graveyard, & during some of the erosion (well before I was there, proof of smuggling, profiteering became obvious as caches (the space at least) appeared in the cliff underneath some of the prominent homes. I was mesmerized by all of this information as I studied for my research paper. I had even given a speech about it later in my college studies.
@@emwebb452 That’s amazing! Thanks for sharing that. I wish I could see this all for myself.
It's actually "hotel Dieu" and not maison Dieu!
Start 35 seconds in to get to the program.
Maine usa have a viking long house and Canada
*Literally every episode..."We are running out of time!"*
*Also literally every episode: [Tons of scripted establishing shots & retakes of the same conversations.] 😂*
Haven't u guys read any Lovecraft, leave that alone, especially in 2020 dammid.
One thing i can't help but comment on is how little infomation there is in these latter shows in relation to the earlier programes in the series, while i still find it interesting to a degree, but to me it does seem to me a poor imitation of the earlier shows.
The Dunwich Horror.
Nobody:
Time team: *let's dig a trench*
American here. Can someone tell me what Phil's accent is. It doesn't sound British it almost sound American but not quite.
There are many accents in England, someone who knows the various accents can tell accurately where a person grew up. Phil's is a broad west country accent.
The horse in the field is going to cause us real problems
An open trench is not something you can have in a horse paddock.
Why not build a retaining wall to stop it from slipping into the sea
Expense. Political will.
Way too expensive...
Subtitle: The *Other* Dunwich Horror.
I wonder what a hearing impaired person would interrupt of Mark's hand signals/speak?
shame they didnt have more time
This isn't about the Dunwich Horror?
That *Dunwich* is in *Massachusetts.*
What puzzles me is, they are in Great Britain and talking in feet, not meters/centimeters!?
England's gonna Engle...
Ur a very educated man
lol the geo physics guy always has excuses. I'm convinced that they keep him around just for laughs now.
Didn't the Saxons arrive in Britain between 410 to 1066 AD? Why are you looking for Saxon architecture/settlements 2,000 years ago? I think many Brits have a romantic notion that their civilization started with the Saxons so they don't have to consider the Celts. Just wondering.
How come it's pronounced dun-ICH, but it's not ips-ICH?
To spot German spies
Because in dun-ICH the W is already under-ater ^^
*Jon Porter*
All varieties of *English* have such anomalies.
Go away Book Corner Man
Why cant they shore up the cliff with stone or something? Instead of letting it ruin all the history?
The stone would just erode away as well.
@@dewdop yeah your probably right
"Digging At Dunwich Before It's Lost To Sea" .
And a decade later, everything at Dunwich is still the same. The same as it was decades ago. The beach is the same, the car park and store/restaurant is the same.......goodness gracious, but the Chicken Little screeching about "soil erosion" is hysterical.
Ever notice how far down into the soil they have to go to find archaeology in such places?
So the town isn't underwater then? The cliffs haven't eroded and *Greyfriars Priory* isn't slowly falling into the sea!
@@philaypeephilippotter6532
Correct. You can Google maps the area and see it's the same as it was during the recording of this program. Identical.
Yes, erosion happens. But not as bad as the nattering Nancy's of negativity think it does.
@@glock22357
So you know better than those who live there and see the erosion weekly, sometimes daily.
@@philaypeephilippotter6532
Well, since neither of us can post pictures, I'm not sure where you're headed with this. Google maps images from this year or so show no major differences. The beach is the same, the car park and store/restaurant is the same.
So, do you have a point to make?
And please don't go on some environazi rant about the evils of human existence.
"So the town isn't underwater then?" No Phillip, Dunwich is not underwater. What color is the sky in your alternate reality?
@@glock22357
The town of *Dunwich* was a major port in mediæval times nearly the size of mediæval *London.*
It is now almost all under the sea. The remaining village now houses about eighty people. About ten churches (or remnants thereof) are under the sea as is most of the town. The town has been dived, photographed and surveyed from helicopters and boats.
You may be able to see it sometimes on Google Earth.
It is a salient part of *British* history and the town's population was over 480 households in 1086 according to *Domesday.* Though I haven't been there I've seen the coastal erosion on the *Suffolk* coast in that area. It can be terrifying when the weather plays up and metres can be eroded in only a couple of hours. In the six centuries or so that have drowned *Dunwich* a few metres in a few hours is but a speck in the ocean.
I dont mind the changes the show made conceptually, but Mary-Ann and Alex's forced joviality ("now, whats this all about! wink wink') of being a presenter first, anthropologist second rather than the other way round like it always was is just too annoying
Yeah you can see the tension there. Behind -the -scenes politics.
BRITS.. DO IT THE BEST...
I lived at Seawall, Southwest Harbor, Maine for over 20 years. I never noticed the sea level rise at all. In fact, I would say that the sea level dropped, if any thing.Do your research, and never take the government's word for anything. Money talks. I lived on the island my whole life. No change I'm just shy of 60.
Right.
So what happens on the *Maine* coast is exactly what happens on the *Suffolk* coast.
Google _global sea level rise._
good attitude, unfortunately critical thinking seems to be a dying phenomenon.
@Timeline, why do you insist on putting in extra music and noise that makes it harder to understand people speaking. It is just unnecessary and the choice of music is bizarre and out of place in Time Team.
What is the point of Peter Snow´s son introducing these programmes, and why does it look like his nose is pressed against a pane of glass?
I guess he works for/created/produces the timeline channel and as time team is a TV show made without youtbe in mind he needs to have a little intro speech to promote this channel... but I guess that should have been obvious. Cant help with the nose question though
that lady has a big chest
Maybe the previous archeologists “that got it wrong” only had 2 days to investigate instead of your 3 days. Numerous times your day 2 conclusions are 180 degrees from the day 3 conclusions. Just sayin....
While it will never happen, I really wish the Brits would either pronounce things the way they are spelled, or spell things the way they want to pronounce them. Why have a 'w' in the name, if you are simply going to ignore it?
Lol, I 'd really like to know where you're from! Usually US citizens introduce their mundane (not to say dumb) comments with 'As an American' -- which spares us the need to read further ;)
@@jeanpeuplu5570 I notice your only complaint is where I might be from, and not a disagreement with my comment. I will take that as an acknowledgment that you are England is where English has gone to die.
Waste of time. Dig in the Sea.