As a Grower with no flat land anywhere on the property, I orient according to contour/drainage. It's my number one consideration. Sunlight doesn't matter when the crops are under 4 inches of water if raised beds are blocking water flow and drainage. Many of my beds are s-curved lookin' all snakey just to follow the natural contour/drainage.
A factor for me to consider, having super harsh summer sun in Western Oklahoma, is to have other taller crops give some shorter, less heat tolerable crops a break from the sun and heat. Our winters are usually too cold for most crops, other than some kales, spinach etc. So for me considering that summer sun seems most important. So much to think about, this is why I like Permaculture concepts. It is putting the knowledge into the hands of people, so they can make informed decisions about what would work in thier environment etc. Always appreciate your information man. Thank you.
Zach Lloyd I live in western OK also.. this is what I was thinking. I’m about to move to land with zero shade. I’m thinking I will plant larger crops to the south to give some shade.
@@abubacz06 lol ! It won't help. If you want shade /low sunlight for some crops . you make north- south rows with 2-4 rows of shade plants with 2 row of bigger plants alternating across the field.
Great video! Wind played a huge factor for us. Also I laugh when I see people worry about sun, and then end up having to use shade cloth 9 months a year. Grow on!
I had the exact same problem with the fence on the south side of my backyard. it’s pretty crazy how it takes a whole year to really see sun patterns etc… it’s been a learning experience :) thanks for explaining in such detail!
Planting north to south is better in most cases because you don't need to take in to consideration how tall your plant will grow. Planting east to west is doable but you need a little bit more planning and knowledge if you want to produce the same amount and quality. But in the end the best direction to plant your plants is down in the ground :)
When you start to grow your vegetables or keep the animals to start with. Automatically your brain is opened up for nature ,and you start seeing things ,which you never observed before and you start learning about geography, ecology , farming, animals, all in one go without even going to any formal institution. That's amazing and big exploration to a new world we are so dependent upon.
Yes, here in west central WI ( an hour east of St. Paul, MN ) I have to be sure to watch out for anything shading my tomatoes, at all, I've learned, and to have good air flow too. Thanks for addressing this topic !
Living above the 45th parallel there are some unique things we deal with here, like plants leaning to the south a lot. It can impact trellising vines, like peas and beans especially. I found it much easier to have them run east to west and plant seed on the north side of the trellis. They didn't want to go running of the south end of a trellis that faced east and west with the ends north and south. Even my sunflowers lean heavily to the south...I have to stake them to keep the larger headed ones from falling over in our late summer winds here too. So much to consider. Great video by the way.
I've got a tiny north facing, sloped area surrounded by pine trees, 2-story homes and fences. This year, I'm planting east-west for tomatoes and peppers (strong winds from the south will provide air flow to the raised beds) and putting zucchini, squash, cucumbers and green beans in large pots along my south facing front walk that gets morning sun for half a day. I put sugar snap peas in pots at the back of my north facing, sloped area (just in front of the pines), they will get morning and afternoon sun then shade from the pine trees for the hottest part of the day. Herbs, onions, spinach and lettuces will be in pots on my north facing patio. We'll see how it works out. If there's a will, there's a way.
Ive been told by a professional that planting the same direction the wind blows so the first row doesn't block the airflow to the rest of the rows is the most important factor to consider to prevent diseases
Much more important in Northern Canada... but designing a garden based on individual garden sites and hyper local micro climate is much more important.
im in the northern hemisphere and plant east to west. I figured since you need to plant the taller plants in the north side of the garden i would want a complete row of corn or what ever . Also my winds mostly come from West or South west and that way one row won't catch most of the wind. The wind can mostly go between the rows. So also by planting east to west as the sun moves across the sky the rows all get equal morning noon and evening sun. i am n an open field and garden is 50 x100 with 50 ft sides being North and South is another reason i run my rows east to west so my rows will only be 50 ft long.
I live in North East Arkansas, because of a slope I have my in ground beds east to west and my above ground North to South. At the end of summer I will know lol
I wondered about how to orient my pole bean A-frame trellis. If I orient North - to -South (I live in northern hemisphere) If I plant on south side, Will pole beans that climb over and go back down on north side of the trellis be productive?
In a city of 7 winds , Ulyanovsk. I see agriculture beds set up east to west according to wind pattern. However, the wind changes at 6pm 1 am, i can smell from the manure. :)
If I plant north to south my strongest sun of the day and the most hours of sun will cast a shadow down the rows. So the first to will cast over to the second and so on. So I was thinking angle the garden pointing north-west to south-west A little. Has anyone had this thought or done this
This is a very important video, but you added a lot of annotations that make it very confusing. Would you consider doing a new video that is more clear? Thanks!
This question can't be answered as a one size fits all. Just put it where it's going to get the most sun, or whatever the plant grows best in. Use your brains. He could give great advice for his situation but yours could be entirely different.
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As a Grower with no flat land anywhere on the property, I orient according to contour/drainage. It's my number one consideration. Sunlight doesn't matter when the crops are under 4 inches of water if raised beds are blocking water flow and drainage. Many of my beds are s-curved lookin' all snakey just to follow the natural contour/drainage.
A factor for me to consider, having super harsh summer sun in Western Oklahoma, is to have other taller crops give some shorter, less heat tolerable crops a break from the sun and heat. Our winters are usually too cold for most crops, other than some kales, spinach etc. So for me considering that summer sun seems most important. So much to think about, this is why I like Permaculture concepts. It is putting the knowledge into the hands of people, so they can make informed decisions about what would work in thier environment etc. Always appreciate your information man. Thank you.
Zach Lloyd I live in western OK also.. this is what I was thinking. I’m about to move to land with zero shade. I’m thinking I will plant larger crops to the south to give some shade.
@@abubacz06 lol ! It won't help. If you want shade /low sunlight for some crops . you make north- south rows with 2-4 rows of shade plants with 2 row of bigger plants alternating across the field.
Great video! Wind played a huge factor for us. Also I laugh when I see people worry about sun, and then end up having to use shade cloth 9 months a year. Grow on!
How did you orient your garden, parallel or perpendicular to prevalent wind?
Thank you! This was a great comparison video and great suggestions. Loved the swales idea with the raised beds.
I had the exact same problem with the fence on the south side of my backyard. it’s pretty crazy how it takes a whole year to really see sun patterns etc… it’s been a learning experience :) thanks for explaining in such detail!
This was the most helpful garden orientation video I've seen - thank you!
Planting north to south is better in most cases because you don't need to take in to consideration how tall your plant will grow. Planting east to west is doable but you need a little bit more planning and knowledge if you want to produce the same amount and quality. But in the end the best direction to plant your plants is down in the ground :)
Definitely great to know. Sounds like it may be tough to do on a slope. But with a little know how it seems encouraging.
When you start to grow your vegetables or keep the animals to start with.
Automatically your brain is opened up for nature ,and you start seeing things ,which you never observed before and you start learning about geography, ecology , farming, animals, all in one go without even going to any formal institution.
That's amazing and big exploration to a new world we are so dependent upon.
Yes, here in west central WI ( an hour east of St. Paul, MN ) I have to be sure to watch out for anything shading my tomatoes, at all, I've learned, and to have good air flow too. Thanks for addressing this topic !
Hi, St Paul gal here.
Great to see a video Steven! Your daily tutorial helped me start my raised bed garden, nice to have some new NAR content.
Thanks. I've got leafy greens in immediate need of planting. This video is for the procrastinators like myself who Still haven't started this year.
I agree.. every area has several considerations.
North to south works in the southern hemisphere too but if you're worried you can also go south to north.
Mistakes are always helpful on thinking more, thanks for the video
Living above the 45th parallel there are some unique things we deal with here, like plants leaning to the south a lot. It can impact trellising vines, like peas and beans especially. I found it much easier to have them run east to west and plant seed on the north side of the trellis. They didn't want to go running of the south end of a trellis that faced east and west with the ends north and south. Even my sunflowers lean heavily to the south...I have to stake them to keep the larger headed ones from falling over in our late summer winds here too. So much to consider. Great video by the way.
Really interesting to hear how you are planting up north :)
Thank you for mentioning runoff and slope. I had completely overlooked it, and it was about to bite me.
Thank you, from a city guy who's trying to learn how to grow vegetables. Your videos are very informative and well done. 👍
I've got a tiny north facing, sloped area surrounded by pine trees, 2-story homes and fences. This year, I'm planting east-west for tomatoes and peppers (strong winds from the south will provide air flow to the raised beds) and putting zucchini, squash, cucumbers and green beans in large pots along my south facing front walk that gets morning sun for half a day. I put sugar snap peas in pots at the back of my north facing, sloped area (just in front of the pines), they will get morning and afternoon sun then shade from the pine trees for the hottest part of the day. Herbs, onions, spinach and lettuces will be in pots on my north facing patio. We'll see how it works out. If there's a will, there's a way.
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Ive been told by a professional that planting the same direction the wind blows so the first row doesn't block the airflow to the rest of the rows is the most important factor to consider to prevent diseases
Yeah boy. Excellent short video. Thank you
Thank you for sharing your research with all of us.
Much more important in Northern Canada... but designing a garden based on individual garden sites and hyper local micro climate is much more important.
Thanks Bud, It was very Helpful to me
im in the northern hemisphere and plant east to west. I figured since you need to plant the taller plants in the north side of the garden i would want a complete row of corn or what ever . Also my winds mostly come from West or South west and that way one row won't catch most of the wind. The wind can mostly go between the rows. So also by planting east to west as the sun moves across the sky the rows all get equal morning noon and evening sun. i am n an open field and garden is 50 x100 with 50 ft sides being North and South is another reason i run my rows east to west so my rows will only be 50 ft long.
Thank you for you info,
Very nice sharing.
Good idea to set up the farm and garden.
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Your chickens are running all throughout the garden? How do you keep them from eating everything??
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Very good video, well thought out. Appreciate you kind sir :)
I used chicken wire for the fencing that surrounds my garden that way the light can get thru the fence so i have no shading. I live in the North.
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How much slope is too much to plant north/south?
Excellent explanation...thanks
I think housing is important north to sound. As my dad is an civil engineer, that he tought me.
I live in North East Arkansas, because of a slope I have my in ground beds east to west and my above ground North to South. At the end of summer I will know lol
What kind of fertilizer do u put on ur bows? I been having a hard time growing mine..
nice garden video, great sharing
Great advise ! Thanks for sharing
At which end we should plant largest trees ??
I wondered about how to orient my pole bean A-frame trellis. If I orient North - to -South (I live in northern hemisphere) If I plant on south side, Will pole beans that climb over and go back down on north side of the trellis be productive?
dude, forget about raised bed orientation, where can I get me some eyebrows...lol just kidding, great video. Thank you.
I go east to west here in socal. It gets too much sun and the ground stays cooler
In a city of 7 winds , Ulyanovsk. I see agriculture beds set up east to west according to wind pattern. However, the wind changes at 6pm 1 am, i can smell from the manure. :)
Where did you grow up? I almost never hear anyone say "pecan" the way we did!
What about a NW --> SE slope...
If I plant north to south my strongest sun of the day and the most hours of sun will cast a shadow down the rows. So the first to will cast over to the second and so on. So I was thinking angle the garden pointing north-west to south-west A little. Has anyone had this thought or done this
This is a very important video, but you added a lot of annotations that make it very confusing. Would you consider doing a new video that is more clear? Thanks!
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This question can't be answered as a one size fits all. Just put it where it's going to get the most sun, or whatever the plant grows best in. Use your brains. He could give great advice for his situation but yours could be entirely different.