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With so many band names suggested here, there must be some evolutionary connection between Astrofysic Passion and Metal Rock. Awaiting the paper on this subject
Hello Anton. I have two thoughts (retired American Biology teacher living in central Thailand) concerning your video today. The footage of the ocean floor showing these rocks (your video) it looks as though these nodules are in "rows" of some sort? Too deep for wave action to do this? Second, I think we have these nodules here, around our home in the woods. My daughter and I have collected thousands of rocks (amateur geologists) and I think we have them here on dry land, but it used to be an ocean. Thanks. As always... great videos.
there are still ocean currents on the bottom of the ocean, and it looked fairly random, some grow into each other some might have been lined up but its probably just random. Also be careful who you tell about the rocks the woods might get knocked down as mining companies come in to terrorize nature
I would assume because it's such a simplistic electrical system and the Earth has such plentiful concentrations of the materials that they've probably ended up being everywhere there's ever been water. Would not be surprised if the very production of oxygen is the reason they form like they do, the oxygen uncovering them and keeping them clear.
I can see a future where industry uses the metals contained in these formations then some non-profit is going to have to re-create them and put them back in place.
There are some companies that suggested that a few years a go. But nothing came out of it for one simple reason. It would not be cost efficient. With current tecnology it would not be worth the labour to get them, transport them, refine them and finally sell the metal. But in a far distant future where everything can be done extremely cheaply, perhaps.
Anton this video is amazing to me, I just did a research presentation about polymetallic nodules and "dark oxygen" and you have been the reason I've been so interested in this topic and the repercussions of deep sea mining. Big props to you for inspiring the youth, and keep up the great videos!
I wonder... Anton is anyone trying to calculate the amount of oxygen used by life worldwide? Because if someone can estimate the amount, we can see if is any other process that produce O2 for the planet, thus seeing if or what we missing in the puzzle.
You do it, take the population of humans and multiply by oxygen consumption. Then do the same for the animals, plants and microbes. Have two categories Oxygen Producers and Oxygen Consumers
I suspect it would be fairly off by a considerable amount, plus it would fluctuate a lot over a year let alone decade, so it depends how accurate it would need to be to be relevant, or if a rough estimate would be fine
the funny thing is that this discovery happened because a rich CEO type really wanted to strip mine these nodules off the ocean floor and commissioned a study on environment impacts with hopes that these are just useless rocks that will have no impact on environment. I bet that CEO is super pissed now for "wasting" his money
If they grow that slowly, wouldn't they get covered with sediment? I'm also wondering how this discovery impacts the "great oxygenation event" as we understand it.
I like the idea that during the early universe, it was too hot and dense for anything to form, but as the universe cooled down, there was a period in which the entire universe had ambient temperature and density, perfect for liquid water and the formation of life. What if life appeared at that time, and today it just "seeds" planets with the right condition for it to propagate? I think it's a fun idea.
Can they examine a sample, determine how it works, then duplicate and perhaps improve the prcess in a lab, one day? Imagine if they can increase the efficiency by a large factor, it might be useful for terraforming Mars, one day. Maybe fill a crater with watr under a dome and collect the oxygen. Domed cities might not be practical due to radiation but I think SpaceX has just started to investigate the Van Allen Belt and radiation levels. It is still a largely unanswered question, I feel. I really liked this topic.
In part I like the questions you are asking but feel afraid of the implications as I think it best we do not remove these nodules and mess with our biosphere any more than we have, if we cannot repair the damage we have done to this planet what hope does a mars colony really have ?
@@stevenkarnisky411You cannot say that for sure but only presumably, most likely. I’m sure a random person said the same thing when they killed the last animal of its once vast species. Besides Anton fumbled on this video by presenting false & incorrect statements.
you can see this process happen in any salt water tank thats not maintained. they form via natural process called percipitation. the metallic ions are forced out of solution and condense.
From what we know about early life on Earth, free oxygen is a bad thing since it is highly reactive. It took life a long time to figure out how to burn it safely via respiration. So why would its presence on Europa or elsewhere be a positive factor for discovering life there?
hello to everyone and thanks Anton for all your hard work my 12 year old niece and I are huge fans and watch every on of your videos upon you uploading them or at least the following day. I have a question, does this not have major implications in regards to exoplanets orbiting red Dwarf, those types of star do not provide enough of the correct type of light for photosynthesis to take place. But if these exoplanets have these metallic like rock and a huge number of them could this not help with the possibility of live of any kind on these words.
Thanks for the update, Anton.. I've been following the efforts of these companies, specifically The Metals Company (TMC), to dredge up the ocean floor for profit. In 1972, scientists simply raked the to test environmental impacts; the area never recovered. Humans 🙄😔
I love thinking about life elsewhere. If Europa is found to have no signs of life whatsoever, I think I’d cry. It’d essentially shatter all my hopes for extraterrestrial organisms.
Chlorine is a major component of human blood, as 1 chlorine + 1 sodium = 1 sodium chloride salt Salt is essential for life, but you are correct, free chlorine is toxic to life. If the nodules contained sodium, potassium or calcium, those could bind to the chlorine released from electrolysis and form salts
these were discovered in the 80's and people are now attempting to mine them. they are responsible for the growth of new matter on the ocean floor through plasmosis, using the collapse of cavitation bubbles generated by them and the electric magnetic field the surrounds them with the vacuum and high pressure of the ocean floor.
These nodules exist since when? In geologic terms ... Did these nodules already exist on primitive Earth along with the first living beings? What would be the oldest sample of this type of mineral formation?
Honestly this if true means that there could be life hiding away in planets we've found but simply cannot see it. It may not be the Goldy Lock zone but the conditions further in may allow for life to thrive. We could be surrounded by life and not know about it, but we'll only find out once we actually get there and scan the environments either in person or via probes directly. Small reminder that Nauru and Banaba, island countries destroyed due to mining the island away for phosphorus and wasting all the money, also wanted to push for the mining of ocean floors for these nodules.
I love the idea that if this is true about these nodules exist on other ocean worlds for example Europa then life may exist on similar worlds even ones orbiting rogue planet giant gas worlds that do not orbit stars possibly even flying through intergalactic space making the point that the universe must be teaming with life.
Knowing there is great interest in these nodules for their metallic - and therefore, economic - content, when I heard the news about Dark Oxygen I got a sinking feeling. I fear that mining interests will likely move faster to exploit this resource before more people find out how bad an idea it is to disturb them.
My neighbor invested in one of the mining companies that have been eying said nodules and help finance the study that revealed the dark O2. Quite an oopsie all around!
wOw! ......... Rock On, Oxygen. Rock On Anton, you are our inspiration and our guiding light in these crazy times when living under the sea may now be a credible option against Global Warming, Betelgeuse explosion, Nuclear War.....!
This is all assuming that "life" has to be like life on Earth that we know. If we broaden the outlook on what life can be to life forms that don't/can't exist on Earth, then the likelihood of extraterrestrial life should be greater. Just the discovery of this previously unknown Oxygen source shows how little we know about our own planet. This underlines how we over-estimate the completeness of our knowledge, thus increasing the chances that we are also failing to comprehend the existence of life based on paradigms disparate from Earth's.
The chemistry proposed in this paper is pretty much total nonsense. They take oxides and play shell games with the potential of the metals as if they were not oxidized. I don't doubt the oxygen results, just the proposed source. Bacterial oxygen generation or peroxides derived from photosynthesis at the surface are more likely explanations.
I'm suspicious of anything that sounds like perpetual motion. If the nodules are drawing metals from the ocean, the metal has to come from somewhere. Here it could be from river erosion, but that won't be the case for a water world like Europa. Without continental drift and land uplift, the ocean must reach some kind of equilibrium on geologic timescales.
Ourr ability to speculate is way ahead of our scientific knowledge here. We will know something of the likelihood of microscopic life in subsurface oceans long before we know if there are multi metal nodules on the sea floor, just because we sample from geysers at or above the surface. Furthermore this video never mentions anaerobic organisms. Once again, humans trying to run before we can walk.
Once we figure these rocks out, and then technically enhance their production synthetically, spacecraft and colonies might find a better way to create a biome for humans. Has anyone seen a really under-rated movie called "Quest for Fire"? This feels like the same sort of moment as the scene when it dawns on the lead paloehuman that friction makes fire, and you don't have to find it in the wild, and then keep it burning 24/7. I think we too are turning a page, and it will have an effect on everyone, just like taming fire and inventing the wheel. We are so close. I close my eyes and I see a little girl at a laptop. She may be the new Einstein for this era. We are due another awakening, just as was the case for the Renaissance. I hope.
You said that this kind of oxygen is created without any chemical reaction, what is wrong, because electrolysis IS a chemical reaction. During electrolysis, various ions donate or absorb electrons while changing their oxidation number - that's a general definition of a redox (reducto-oxidative) chemical reaction
Technically, the 'next question' before we get all excited about aliens we have never seen... Is can we use this new found discovery to help us replicate a solution to the rapidly expanding low and no oxygen zones in our own oceans...
Without a detailed analysis of life's origin and evolution on Earth no intelligent approach to alien life can occur. A new book published by Austin Macauley Publishers titled From Chemistry to Life on Earth outlines abiogenesis in great detail with a solution to the evolution of the genetic code and the ribosome as well as the cell in general using 290 references, 50 illustrations and several information tables with a proposed molecular natural selection formula with a worked example for ATP. Dark oxygen is synthesised from water by manganates catalysing the splitting of water jinto O2 and H2 just as they catalyse breakdown of hydrogen peroxide into H2O and O2. Manganate is found in the oxygen evolving complec of photosystem 11 along with calcium in photosynthesis. Some photosynthesising bacteria don't have an oxygen evolving complex and do not split water but use an alternative electron donor, sulphide or arsenate.
Life didn't start out with using oxygen (probably requires some citations, especially since research on this is evergoing), it started out being incredibly vulnerable to it and bursting apart before their first anti-oxidants were formed, requiring anaerobic conditions. It may wipe out this life instead of supporting it.
Yes! And Oxygen is just efficient way to get back energy from food. What would be the source for food to use with Dark Oxygen on alien world? I would rather see alien life using this nodules for energy and the Oxygen being competitive side effect. And Oxygan can oxidise metals, so will it not oxidise nodules and limit production?
Thank you for pointing out another failure with Anton’s content. I’ve became to notice a tendency of false or misleading statements or information put out by him.
Hello Anton Petrov I think it's time we asked a Question ? Has Extra Terrestrial life found a way to cohabit in a dual existence with Mankind at a molecular level
Yeah! And every time we learn something new about Mars he should go back and re-do those videos, too. And don't even get me started on asteroid impacts... like, who on earth would just make a new video with updated information???
Meybe. We got both bacteria and animals who live extremely far beneath the surface in caverns their entire lifes whitout ever seeing light once. So having a star is not an absolute requirement to live, but might be one to start life at some point. Tho we will extremely likely never find out. It's hard enough to find a star system with planets that potentially hosts life. Now multepiie that by a billion and you get the likelyhood to even find a rogue planet, let alone one that potentially hosts life in any form on it. But hey, that wont stop us having fun theorize about it right? :) Now what do you think it would look like? Like the lizards we have here on earth, that lives in these eternal darkness caves? Or do you think they would be more or less advanced forms of life? Amebas? or cyber monkeys? XD
@@mr-x7689 I think most extraterrestrial life, whether on rogue planets or not, is probably just single celled microbial life. I think it's possible rogue planets could have life, though. The life could've started when the planet was around a star, but then got flung out somehow. If the planet is big enough, it could have tectonic activity and a core or mantel that keeps it warm on the inside. Then there could be a liquid ocean beneath the surface with thermal vents.
Simple life must be abundant in the Universe, complex life less so, and intelligent life must be rare or we would have found Anton's aliens already. Heck, we might become extinct ourselves soon..
Just realised I normally smash the Like button when Anton says "hello wonderful person".
Me too
I also recommend that people smash the like button, and give a comment, to encourage this wonderful person, to keep producing his wonderful, interesting and informative videos.
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Dark Oxygen is a great Metal(lic) rock (band name.)
And if you were a rapper, you could be 2Pun
Why two and not free
At least one umlaut needs to be in that name. 🙃
Prob be a YA in CW
With so many band names suggested here, there must be some evolutionary connection between Astrofysic Passion and Metal Rock. Awaiting the paper on this subject
Hello Anton. I have two thoughts (retired American Biology teacher living in central Thailand) concerning your video today. The footage of the ocean floor showing these rocks (your video) it looks as though these nodules are in "rows" of some sort? Too deep for wave action to do this? Second, I think we have these nodules here, around our home in the woods. My daughter and I have collected thousands of rocks (amateur geologists) and I think we have them here on dry land, but it used to be an ocean. Thanks. As always... great videos.
Interesting. Which province are you in?
there are still ocean currents on the bottom of the ocean, and it looked fairly random, some grow into each other some might have been lined up but its probably just random.
Also be careful who you tell about the rocks the woods might get knocked down as mining companies come in to terrorize nature
I would assume because it's such a simplistic electrical system and the Earth has such plentiful concentrations of the materials that they've probably ended up being everywhere there's ever been water.
Would not be surprised if the very production of oxygen is the reason they form like they do, the oxygen uncovering them and keeping them clear.
Also he was wrong in stating biggest discover of 2024. We’ve known about these for atleast half a decade. Just search ocean floor mining.
Neat if true
I love smiling Anton thumbnail :)
Howdy from Temple, Texas, USA! Great content!
I can see a future where industry uses the metals contained in these formations then some non-profit is going to have to re-create them and put them back in place.
There are some companies that suggested that a few years a go. But nothing came out of it for one simple reason. It would not be cost efficient. With current tecnology it would not be worth the labour to get them, transport them, refine them and finally sell the metal. But in a far distant future where everything can be done extremely cheaply, perhaps.
@@mr-x7689 Let's hope we will be mining asteroids by then.
But we'll be too late when we fix it.
And at a mere 10x the cost of extraction 😐
Well, of course
Wonderful as always Anton. Thank you. 🫡😊
This is why it is imperative that we sign petitions and financially support environmental groups that combat the move to mine the ocean floors!
seditious fat orange boi mine ocean 😮
Much of that mining is for batteries. They claim to be environmentalists.
Environmentalist groups are mostly trash. Just Marxists in disguise.
Any groups come to mind?
Anton this video is amazing to me, I just did a research presentation about polymetallic nodules and "dark oxygen" and you have been the reason I've been so interested in this topic and the repercussions of deep sea mining. Big props to you for inspiring the youth, and keep up the great videos!
I wonder... Anton is anyone trying to calculate the amount of oxygen used by life worldwide? Because if someone can estimate the amount, we can see if is any other process that produce O2 for the planet, thus seeing if or what we missing in the puzzle.
You do it, take the population of humans and multiply by oxygen consumption. Then do the same for the animals, plants and microbes.
Have two categories Oxygen Producers and Oxygen Consumers
I suspect it would be fairly off by a considerable amount, plus it would fluctuate a lot over a year let alone decade, so it depends how accurate it would need to be to be relevant, or if a rough estimate would be fine
the funny thing is that this discovery happened because a rich CEO type really wanted to strip mine these nodules off the ocean floor and commissioned a study on environment impacts with hopes that these are just useless rocks that will have no impact on environment. I bet that CEO is super pissed now for "wasting" his money
Your envy and/or bitterness shows.
So mermaids might be real living under the ice on some far off moon 😮
Hmm.. Tiny mermaids maybe. Pixie Mermaids?
kaguya hime as mermaid is pretty interesting
They grow faster when we get solar flares. Solar flares are linked to the manganese nodules within them.
Even that deep in the ocean.
Dark Oxegen should be a 'hold your horse' on seabed mining item to research.
Enjoyed your presentation on Dark Oxygen.
Thank you for the video like always Anton!
Just feel that sound quality could be a lot better, thank you!
Love seeing Anton smile in the thumbnail! It immediately made me smile too 💜
If they grow that slowly, wouldn't they get covered with sediment? I'm also wondering how this discovery impacts the "great oxygenation event" as we understand it.
Did not know this! Hope we find out something soon. Thanks Anton!
Love you Anton. Youre a good human!
Panspermia. Life finds a way. The Universe is alive. ❤
I like the idea that during the early universe, it was too hot and dense for anything to form, but as the universe cooled down, there was a period in which the entire universe had ambient temperature and density, perfect for liquid water and the formation of life. What if life appeared at that time, and today it just "seeds" planets with the right condition for it to propagate?
I think it's a fun idea.
Gotta be other life out there even if it’s one in a trillion there’s an infinite amount of planets
I love Anton, even when he gets over-excited. That's what science needs more of.
3:18 looks like the ex's attempt at meat loaf.
Love and Light to you and your family ❤
Hey Anton - what about the Europa Clipper mission? Departure date should be in this fall :-)
Do you play No Mans Sky, Anton? Bet you do. Thanks for these awesome videos
I almost invested in that company a couple years ago, glad I didn't... This just killed their ability to do what they had planned on doing.
Can they examine a sample, determine how it works, then duplicate and perhaps improve the prcess in a lab, one day?
Imagine if they can increase the efficiency by a large factor, it might be useful for terraforming Mars, one day.
Maybe fill a crater with watr under a dome and collect the oxygen. Domed cities might not be practical due to radiation but I think SpaceX has just started to investigate the Van Allen Belt and radiation levels. It is still a largely unanswered question, I feel.
I really liked this topic.
In part I like the questions you are asking but feel afraid of the implications as I think it best we do not remove these nodules and mess with our biosphere any more than we have, if we cannot repair the damage we have done to this planet what hope does a mars colony really have ?
@@liningtheclouds Mining these nodules for profit could destroy the ecosystem. Collecting some for research will do no harm.
@@stevenkarnisky411You cannot say that for sure but only presumably, most likely. I’m sure a random person said the same thing when they killed the last animal of its once vast species. Besides Anton fumbled on this video by presenting false & incorrect statements.
you can see this process happen in any salt water tank thats not maintained.
they form via natural process called percipitation.
the metallic ions are forced out of solution and condense.
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From what we know about early life on Earth, free oxygen is a bad thing since it is highly reactive. It took life a long time to figure out how to burn it safely via respiration. So why would its presence on Europa or elsewhere be a positive factor for discovering life there?
I wonder if we can find older nodules in ancient marine sedimentary rocks…maybe we mistook them for relatively new concretions formed in situ
Some German company tried mining what we call Manganknollen in the 70s as a test. You can still see the mining track.
hello to everyone and thanks Anton for all your hard work my 12 year old niece and I are huge fans and watch every on of your videos upon you uploading them or at least the following day.
I have a question, does this not have major implications in regards to exoplanets orbiting red Dwarf, those types of star do not provide enough of the correct type of light for photosynthesis to take place.
But if these exoplanets have these metallic like rock and a huge number of them could this not help with the possibility of live of any kind on these words.
Very interesting indeed, thanks👍❤
This brings to mind Vernadsky’s hypothesis of the interaction of the lithosphere with the biosphere. Continuing with the Noosphere.
Thanks for the update, Anton.. I've been following the efforts of these companies, specifically The Metals Company (TMC), to dredge up the ocean floor for profit. In 1972, scientists simply raked the to test environmental impacts; the area never recovered. Humans 🙄😔
I love thinking about life elsewhere. If Europa is found to have no signs of life whatsoever, I think I’d cry. It’d essentially shatter all my hopes for extraterrestrial organisms.
Preasure, with salinity of the water and temperature , combimes with the nodules mineral makeup ?
Doesn't the electrolysis of salt water also lead to the production of chlorine? That would be less good.
Chlorine is a major component of human blood, as 1 chlorine + 1 sodium = 1 sodium chloride salt
Salt is essential for life, but you are correct, free chlorine is toxic to life.
If the nodules contained sodium, potassium or calcium, those could bind to the chlorine released from electrolysis and form salts
The areas wgere these things have been mined have been devastated, and are still barren after over a decade, these rocks should be protected.
It's already evident on this planet in the extreme conditions of life adapting and existing
these were discovered in the 80's and people are now attempting to mine them. they are responsible for the growth of new matter on the ocean floor through plasmosis, using the collapse of cavitation bubbles generated by them and the electric magnetic field the surrounds them with the vacuum and high pressure of the ocean floor.
Thank you Anton
These nodules exist since when? In geologic terms ... Did these nodules already exist on primitive Earth along with the first living beings? What would be the oldest sample of this type of mineral formation?
I suspect they form primarily in areas that have either lots of thunderstorms and/or quartz deposits that are stimulated by earthquakes.
Thank you, Anton. Some possibilities may open when these nodules are examinedfurther and understood better.
I didn't watch it, but I had to tell you I loved the smile! 😂
0:54 Elektrolysis is shifting electrons between atoms, hence it IS a chemical process.
I do know, my gosh, do I need to make this myself too.
Good one Anton.
Honestly this if true means that there could be life hiding away in planets we've found but simply cannot see it. It may not be the Goldy Lock zone but the conditions further in may allow for life to thrive. We could be surrounded by life and not know about it, but we'll only find out once we actually get there and scan the environments either in person or via probes directly.
Small reminder that Nauru and Banaba, island countries destroyed due to mining the island away for phosphorus and wasting all the money, also wanted to push for the mining of ocean floors for these nodules.
I love the idea that if this is true about these nodules exist on other ocean worlds for example Europa then life may exist on similar worlds even ones orbiting rogue planet giant gas worlds that do not orbit stars possibly even flying through intergalactic space making the point that the universe must be teaming with life.
Thank you
Knowing there is great interest in these nodules for their metallic - and therefore, economic - content, when I heard the news about Dark Oxygen I got a sinking feeling. I fear that mining interests will likely move faster to exploit this resource before more people find out how bad an idea it is to disturb them.
The thumbnail for this video makes it look like you just inhaled some S-tier flower, Anton.
My neighbor invested in one of the mining companies that have been eying said nodules and help finance the study that revealed the dark O2. Quite an oopsie all around!
They would have to have some sort of plant life or organism that break down the waste of the of the animals on those planets
Anton Rocks !
wOw! ......... Rock On, Oxygen. Rock On Anton, you are our inspiration and our guiding light in these crazy times when living under the sea may now be a credible option against Global Warming, Betelgeuse explosion, Nuclear War.....!
This is all assuming that "life" has to be like life on Earth that we know. If we broaden the outlook on what life can be to life forms that don't/can't exist on Earth, then the likelihood of extraterrestrial life should be greater.
Just the discovery of this previously unknown Oxygen source shows how little we know about our own planet. This underlines how we over-estimate the completeness of our knowledge, thus increasing the chances that we are also failing to comprehend the existence of life based on paradigms disparate from Earth's.
This is actually an exceedingly important discovery here on earth and elsewhere. Somehow I missed it.
The chemistry proposed in this paper is pretty much total nonsense. They take oxides and play shell games with the potential of the metals as if they were not oxidized. I don't doubt the oxygen results, just the proposed source. Bacterial oxygen generation or peroxides derived from photosynthesis at the surface are more likely explanations.
I'm suspicious of anything that sounds like perpetual motion. If the nodules are drawing metals from the ocean, the metal has to come from somewhere. Here it could be from river erosion, but that won't be the case for a water world like Europa. Without continental drift and land uplift, the ocean must reach some kind of equilibrium on geologic timescales.
Science news anton: 🙂
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I mean, this could very well be one of the primary oxygen sources for how our planet was oxygenated in the first place.
The more we look the more insane things we find on Earth. Thankfully we will never know everything so there will always be new discoveries.
Shades of "Robinson Crusoe On Mars".
My question is 'Is there any way to grow or seed those nodules artificially?' and I hope the answer is yes.
A big nod to those nodules!👍🏻
I think a magnetic field would be required to form the Nodules. If so, it's a limiting factor.
Ourr ability to speculate is way ahead of our scientific knowledge here.
We will know something of the likelihood of microscopic life in subsurface oceans long before we know if there are multi metal nodules on the sea floor, just because we sample from geysers at or above the surface. Furthermore this video never mentions anaerobic organisms.
Once again, humans trying to run before we can walk.
This is probably the secret to panspermia. I felt that critical discoveries would be made about that by hot water vents deep in the ocean.
Sharp looking haircut Anton
I always notice when Anton gets a haircut. I like it longer and fluffy.
Seeding all the Universe!
Super interesting.
I thought we couldn't run cars on water because electrolysis took too much electricity to be worth it. Yet here we are rocks performing electrolysis.
Once we figure these rocks out, and then technically enhance their production synthetically, spacecraft and colonies might find a better way to create a biome for humans.
Has anyone seen a really under-rated movie called "Quest for Fire"? This feels like the same sort of moment as the scene when it dawns on the lead paloehuman that friction makes fire, and you don't have to find it in the wild, and then keep it burning 24/7.
I think we too are turning a page, and it will have an effect on everyone, just like taming fire and inventing the wheel. We are so close.
I close my eyes and I see a little girl at a laptop. She may be the new Einstein for this era. We are due another awakening, just as was the case for the Renaissance. I hope.
You said that this kind of oxygen is created without any chemical reaction, what is wrong, because electrolysis IS a chemical reaction. During electrolysis, various ions donate or absorb electrons while changing their oxidation number - that's a general definition of a redox (reducto-oxidative) chemical reaction
Technically, the 'next question' before we get all excited about aliens we have never seen...
Is can we use this new found discovery to help us replicate a solution to the rapidly expanding low and no oxygen zones in our own oceans...
Kinda off subject, but can you do a video about the temporary second moon earth is supposed to be getting very soon?
Without a detailed analysis of life's origin and evolution on Earth no intelligent approach to alien life can occur. A new book published by Austin Macauley Publishers titled From Chemistry to Life on Earth outlines abiogenesis in great detail with a solution to the evolution of the genetic code and the ribosome as well as the cell in general using 290 references, 50 illustrations and several information tables with a proposed molecular natural selection formula with a worked example for ATP.
Dark oxygen is synthesised from water by manganates catalysing the splitting of water jinto O2 and H2 just as they catalyse breakdown of hydrogen peroxide into H2O and O2. Manganate is found in the oxygen evolving complec of photosystem 11 along with calcium in photosynthesis. Some photosynthesising bacteria don't have an oxygen evolving complex and do not split water but use an alternative electron donor, sulphide or arsenate.
I would think one would describe electrolysis as one type of chemical reaction.
Life didn't start out with using oxygen (probably requires some citations, especially since research on this is evergoing), it started out being incredibly vulnerable to it and bursting apart before their first anti-oxidants were formed, requiring anaerobic conditions.
It may wipe out this life instead of supporting it.
Yes!
And Oxygen is just efficient way to get back energy from food. What would be the source for food to use with Dark Oxygen on alien world? I would rather see alien life using this nodules for energy and the Oxygen being competitive side effect. And Oxygan can oxidise metals, so will it not oxidise nodules and limit production?
Thank you for pointing out another failure with Anton’s content. I’ve became to notice a tendency of false or misleading statements or information put out by him.
@@junorus ?
I'm sorry but you missed the real 2nd question. "Can we make them?" is the question any discovery needs to answer 🙂
I think that we are forgetting that these nodules are a product of life itself. Not entirely purely geological.
Yes. I heard somewhere they formed around death animals. Anton seemed to omit this.
Show me the Little Green Men already!!!
So has it been stopped or is it going the way of the bering straight crab
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Hello Anton Petrov
I think it's time we asked a Question ?
Has Extra Terrestrial life found a way to cohabit in a dual existence with Mankind at a molecular level
Shouldn't you redo some old videos supporting are earth hypothesis based on photosynthesis
Yepppp
Yeah! And every time we learn something new about Mars he should go back and re-do those videos, too. And don't even get me started on asteroid impacts... like, who on earth would just make a new video with updated information???
Damn, the mining companies are absolutely seething right now 😂
If life could exist without the sun, I wonder if there are any rogue planets that have life on them.
Meybe. We got both bacteria and animals who live extremely far beneath the surface in caverns their entire lifes whitout ever seeing light once. So having a star is not an absolute requirement to live, but might be one to start life at some point. Tho we will extremely likely never find out. It's hard enough to find a star system with planets that potentially hosts life. Now multepiie that by a billion and you get the likelyhood to even find a rogue planet, let alone one that potentially hosts life in any form on it.
But hey, that wont stop us having fun theorize about it right? :)
Now what do you think it would look like? Like the lizards we have here on earth, that lives in these eternal darkness caves? Or do you think they would be more or less advanced forms of life? Amebas? or cyber monkeys? XD
@@mr-x7689 I think most extraterrestrial life, whether on rogue planets or not, is probably just single celled microbial life. I think it's possible rogue planets could have life, though. The life could've started when the planet was around a star, but then got flung out somehow. If the planet is big enough, it could have tectonic activity and a core or mantel that keeps it warm on the inside. Then there could be a liquid ocean beneath the surface with thermal vents.
The last time someone told me about “dark oxygen” I was farted on lol
This expands the goldilocks zone by I don't really know how much.
Oh, does it now?
Really neat
Simple life must be abundant in the Universe, complex life less so, and intelligent life must be rare or we would have found Anton's aliens already. Heck, we might become extinct ourselves soon..
We have to look inside Europa
Is it a piezoelectric effect?
Which means we can say for sure there is life on an alien planet, just seeing oxygen in its atmosphere.