After Pilkington - BBC2 - 1987 - Bob Peck - Miranda Richardson - Barry Foster - Drama

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  • Following awards at the San Francisco and Locarno festivals, After Pilkington won the top television accolade in Europe, the Prix Italia.
    Black comedy drama by SIMON GRAY starring with Gary Waldhorn and Mary Miller
    'What's happened to Pilkington, our vanishing Don?'
    The exciting rediscovery of a childhood sweetheart draws
    James into a tangle of misunderstanding, intrigue and murder.
    Designer GRAEME THOMSON
    Film editor DAN RAE
    Photography ANDREW DUNN
    Produced by KENITH TRODD
    Directed by CHRISTOPHER MORAHAN
    James: Bob Peck
    Penny: Miranda Richardson
    Derek: Barry Foster
    Amanda: Reina James
    Boris: Gary Waldhorn
    Young Penny: Sarah Butler
    Young James: Richard Grant
    Wilkins: Richard Brenner
    Deirdre Pilkington: Mary Miller
    Pilkington: Derek Ware
    Doctor: Nigel Nevinson
    Pottsy: John Gill
    thanks to @UKPRES1 on Twitter for the tape!

КОМЕНТАРІ • 181

  • @Giorgio-j6p
    @Giorgio-j6p 11 місяців тому +80

    Once upon a time: when a cultured and refined BBC produced authorial features. At that epoch "the audience" would have vomited watching "X Factor", "The Big Brother" and other idle idiocies at all... Thanks for having posted this TV gem dated 1986.

    • @kikoexteberria8668
      @kikoexteberria8668 11 місяців тому

      BBC just promotes the diversity agenda now . Needs to be finished, just like the NHS ..both swamps

    • @Robert-ts2ef
      @Robert-ts2ef 7 місяців тому +8

      Totally agree with you my friend. The mindless rubbish they put on now is beyond belief.

    • @SimonOBrien-be8qt
      @SimonOBrien-be8qt 6 місяців тому +4

      The BBC did not broadcast Big Brother

    • @Rashy225
      @Rashy225 6 місяців тому +1

      Ok boomer

    • @davidjames9626
      @davidjames9626 Місяць тому

      We live in the age of Hype & Drivel..that vomits out of the media the masses are being hoodwinked..

  • @patrickpaganini
    @patrickpaganini 2 роки тому +95

    This is just as good now as I remember it being in 1987. An incredibly strong cast. The 80s really were the heyday of British TV drama - think of Edge of Darkness, etc.

    • @elenahelen8958
      @elenahelen8958 Рік тому +9

      I came on here becsuse I remembered Edge of Darkness which I watched when it was first released and introduced me to the wonderful actor Bob Peck.

    • @Stiffd1
      @Stiffd1 Рік тому +12

      Bob was one of our greats. Unassuming, observational method actor with a trait of his very own. Passed but never passed by in anything he did.

    • @susanford2388
      @susanford2388 Рік тому +5

      And the Heyday of British comedy was the 70's. Such an array of talent.

    • @patrickpaganini
      @patrickpaganini Рік тому +3

      @@susanford2388 very true. Humour without a cudgel.

    • @susanford2388
      @susanford2388 Рік тому +6

      @@patrickpaganini I left the UK 3 decades ago but love to stay up to date with their dramas. In my opinion one cannot beat British Dramas. In the Line of Duty I thought was very good, plus whatever Stephen Moffat does, SILK, etc. Great legal dramas. I miss the UK a lot when I watch shows old & new.

  • @fionagallegos9072
    @fionagallegos9072 5 місяців тому +14

    The British do drama and comedies like no other, always.

    • @jekin905
      @jekin905 Місяць тому +2

      This Colonist agrees

    • @2msvalkyrie529
      @2msvalkyrie529 24 дні тому +1

      You obviously don't watch much British television...??

    • @eightiesmusic1984
      @eightiesmusic1984 8 днів тому

      British television is mostly rubbish.

  • @janette6293
    @janette6293 9 місяців тому +6

    Completely bonkers and quite enjoyable, thanks for showing.

  • @wildyblissjazz
    @wildyblissjazz 19 днів тому

    Adorable, witty, imaginative, hilarious, entertaining. What a gem!

  • @didierbion8056
    @didierbion8056 Рік тому +3

    Thanks for posting this. I recall watching it in 87 when i lived in Hampshire. Will be a great pleasure to see it again.

  • @shirley8155
    @shirley8155 11 місяців тому +5

    that was excellent! it got better as it went along. Great cast, great story, great execution😀. Thanks for the upload.

  • @MrTang-qo9wm
    @MrTang-qo9wm 2 місяці тому +2

    The marvelous Barry Foster!

    • @2msvalkyrie529
      @2msvalkyrie529 24 дні тому

      Yes ,he was ! But somehow he never actually became a huge star..?? A great mystery...?

  • @alphabetaxenonzzzcat
    @alphabetaxenonzzzcat Рік тому +20

    Bob Peck and Miranda Richardson reteamed in 1998 for the Minette Waters' adaptation "The Scold's Bridle". That was also a very good production from the BBC.

    • @hughiedavies6069
      @hughiedavies6069 3 місяці тому +1

      I've just found The scolds bride..I'm going to see what it's like, I hope it's as good as After Pilkington 😃 thanks for mentioning it.

    • @hughiedavies6069
      @hughiedavies6069 3 місяці тому

      Bridle 👍

  • @jamesrouillardjas1671
    @jamesrouillardjas1671 Рік тому +29

    This is incredibly funny and imaginative! Thanks for sharing. A wonderful take on The Oxbridge academic scene. I thoroughly enjoyed it. Gary Waldhorn’s final scene is priceless.

  • @Kokkoz6
    @Kokkoz6 Рік тому +11

    Starts out looking and sounding like an episode of Morse. Actually ends up v similar to an episode of Midsomer with Hannah Gordon. Dialogue is sharp, cast is brilliant with maybe Richardson ever so slightly having a winning edge. Barry Foster as always does a nice line as an Oxford don. Thank you. Good stuff.

  • @colinglass1342
    @colinglass1342 11 місяців тому +3

    The variety of different characters these tv actors play are 👏 brilliant.

  • @markwhitaker503
    @markwhitaker503 Рік тому +17

    What a great find. Miranda Richardson is such a great actor so it's brilliant to see her in something I've never seen before ❤

    • @grays257
      @grays257 Рік тому +11

      Actress!

    • @Scathingly
      @Scathingly Рік тому +2

      @@grays257 - Hmmm - Am wondering why we don't have doctresses as a counter to doctors. Think we should consult the language board--it's all getting pretty tricky and so terribly funny were it not sinister.

    • @rubytuesday5412
      @rubytuesday5412 10 місяців тому

      @@grays257~ They are all called *Actors* now.

    • @grays257
      @grays257 10 місяців тому

      Not by me. @@rubytuesday5412

    • @grays257
      @grays257 10 місяців тому +3

      @@rubytuesday5412 Maybe in your woke world, but to me they will always be the female gender "actresses".

  • @andydixon2980
    @andydixon2980 11 місяців тому +4

    That was excellent. Great actors and script.

  • @dilly1863
    @dilly1863 Рік тому +23

    What a very unusual saga! Actors were superb in their roles. Loved the sarcastic music of a song in the background, very funny.

    • @wendischofield4543
      @wendischofield4543 Рік тому +2

      Yes, the Schubert “Die Furelle” made me smile.

    • @AndyMangele
      @AndyMangele Рік тому +3

      @@wendischofield4543 It's actually "Forelle".

    • @wendischofield4543
      @wendischofield4543 Рік тому +1

      @@AndyMangele:- as you say. I should check my text more thoroughly!

  • @MrYorickJenkins
    @MrYorickJenkins 2 місяці тому +1

    Great fun! Smoking in a café! oh my goodness how free we were in those days

  • @eahannan
    @eahannan Рік тому +8

    Plenty of unexpected laughs crept up on me in this saga. Masterfully etched ✍️

  • @helentucker6407
    @helentucker6407 28 днів тому

    Oh what a gem! 😅 thanks very much 👍 👍 👍

  • @shelleymcafee8197
    @shelleymcafee8197 Рік тому +9

    Very good; Thank-You so much! ;)

  • @wendischofield4543
    @wendischofield4543 Рік тому +18

    Echos of the mad Elizabeth 1st from Blackadder even then!

    • @patrickpaganini
      @patrickpaganini Рік тому +5

      Nobody does crazy quite as well.

    • @markstuckey6225
      @markstuckey6225 Рік тому +4

      A one trick pony and not even good at that.

    • @patrickpaganini
      @patrickpaganini Рік тому +3

      @@markstuckey6225 It's funny because talented people are not normally haters. I'll give you the benefit of the doubt.

    • @HookBeak_66
      @HookBeak_66 Рік тому +1

      @@markstuckey6225 She is somewhat typecast, perhaps that's why you think this way?

    • @sarahholland2600
      @sarahholland2600 Рік тому +2

      ​@@markstuckey6225She was great as Ruth Ellis, the last woman to be hanged in Britain , in Dance with a Stranger , 1985. Rupert Everett plays her violent younger lover.

  • @Firebrand55
    @Firebrand55 Рік тому +9

    Excellent!....ok, you'll raise an eyebrow or two at plot detail, but that was then...watch it for a superb cast with Peck, Richardson and Foster shining!

  • @cl759
    @cl759 Рік тому +8

    Awesome, really enjoyed that one 👍🏻

  • @golden1789
    @golden1789 Рік тому +3

    Great Stuff. Thanks

  • @brucedanton3669
    @brucedanton3669 Рік тому +15

    The late Bob Peck was of course in this as well as the wonderful Edge of Darkness series before this in 1985.
    After Pilkington was first shown in the Screen Two strand of films on BBC2 in 1987. Thank you anyway!!

  • @pamelaturnbull4344
    @pamelaturnbull4344 Рік тому +12

    I do love an Oxbridge satire.

  • @dee4174
    @dee4174 Місяць тому

    Such a good drama! No swearing either! Loved it. ❤

  • @diogenesagogo
    @diogenesagogo 10 місяців тому +1

    An utter, utter delight.

  • @hughiedavies6069
    @hughiedavies6069 3 місяці тому

    Hilarious . Thanks for posting

  • @philfletcher3434
    @philfletcher3434 Рік тому +6

    This fascinating drama has a really horrifying twist at the end.

  • @michelesummers2437
    @michelesummers2437 Рік тому +6

    Bloody good

  • @MarcoSpeaksNadsat
    @MarcoSpeaksNadsat Рік тому +4

    I thought this was going to be a documentary about Ricky Gervais after he stopped working with Karl Pilkington.

  • @mattneillninasmom
    @mattneillninasmom Рік тому +6

    Miranda Richardson always seems to be just on the edge of madness. Last scene not believable, as she had previously done a 180 and decided "Piglet/Porker" was not to be trusted.

  • @eddiemunster2196
    @eddiemunster2196 Рік тому +9

    Funny as hell

  • @Charlie-sr6dv
    @Charlie-sr6dv Рік тому +11

    Stick with this. It gets better and better.

    • @markstuckey6225
      @markstuckey6225 Рік тому

      No, it doesn't, it's dreadful all the way through.

    • @patrickpaganini
      @patrickpaganini Рік тому +2

      man, all the haters. Dunno why they can't understand the subtlety.

    • @tomkent4656
      @tomkent4656 Рік тому +1

      ​@patrickpaganini Dislike is not necessarily Hate!

  • @pninnabokov3734
    @pninnabokov3734 Рік тому +12

    Reminds me of Peter Sellers the one with the glasses. I think he's trying for that look too ... or maybe he's not. But I certainly see a similarity. He's a lot less manic and that's wonderful.

    • @katella
      @katella Рік тому +1

      My English husband had a pair of those glasses. I called them his birth control glasses.

    • @melokc7257
      @melokc7257 Рік тому +1

      No, he's really always looked like that. And I agree, Great acting, not overacting.

    • @naradaian
      @naradaian Рік тому +1

      Don’t be ridiculous peck was a top billing actor in numerous productions often without glasses and Sellers was dead by this time and a comedic actor, Bob Peck was not usually a comedy actor

    • @pninnabokov3734
      @pninnabokov3734 Рік тому

      @@naradaian They resemble each other to me. in any case, they both annoy me no end.

    • @phillipbonner9944
      @phillipbonner9944 7 місяців тому

      ​@@naradaianNor was the great
      Barry Foster.

  • @carolleenkelmann4751
    @carolleenkelmann4751 Рік тому +2

    I shall never be able to listen to Chamber Music ever again without thinking of scissors & one-buttoned, cast-off apricot shirts.

  • @julieblackstock8650
    @julieblackstock8650 Рік тому +2

    Miranda Richardson is so good.. Her Ruth Ellis was amazing too

  • @wendischofield4543
    @wendischofield4543 Рік тому +12

    BBC TV really did have some corking productions.

  • @ginachristine7721
    @ginachristine7721 Рік тому +6

    Bob Peck was the
    Game Warden that
    died in Jurassic Park..."Clever Girl"

  • @rosemaryallen2128
    @rosemaryallen2128 Рік тому +4

    In 2018, a scientific paper opined that infantilism was becoming increasingly common. HELP!

  • @brucewallace2
    @brucewallace2 Рік тому +4

    I think one of the funniest things in this drama is the way that Barry Foster never twigs at the obvious from Bob Peck's character. Despite Foster seeing Peck wear his clothes and his Turkish flip flops he realises something's amiss but doesn't question the obvious. Priceless as it implies he's thick as shit despite being an Oxford Don.

  • @nickwyatt9498
    @nickwyatt9498 2 місяці тому

    Bob Peck looks so astonishingly like Harold Pinter throughout it adds a whole new level. Of course HP and Simon Grey were best mates.

  • @pyconsable
    @pyconsable Рік тому +7

    I watched this just because of the name, very entertaining

  • @mysticthreed2957
    @mysticthreed2957 Рік тому +3

    Hilarious! Thx

  • @andrewhoward7200
    @andrewhoward7200 Рік тому +1

    Wonderfully dotty.

  • @jasanders5877
    @jasanders5877 2 місяці тому

    How THIS won an award, THE Mind boggles...
    Absolutely terrible 😮😢😅

  • @patrickpaganini
    @patrickpaganini Рік тому +4

    I remember not watching Edge Of Darkness when it was first screened because of the tv times cover with Craven having a gun. My loss.

    • @elenahelen8958
      @elenahelen8958 Рік тому +2

      It made a lasting impression on me. Mel Gibson produced and starred in a n American remake of it.

  • @DC11-ns7vf
    @DC11-ns7vf 2 місяці тому +1

    there's really no ending here.

  • @knitnkitten
    @knitnkitten Рік тому +5

    Wow. He is so creepy. And such a complete narcissist. 🙄

  • @МанушакОнищенко
    @МанушакОнищенко 11 місяців тому

    Great movie👍

  • @gardenlover9663
    @gardenlover9663 Рік тому +2

    I did not enjoy this,
    but I am glad so many did.

  • @love-by2of
    @love-by2of Місяць тому

    Excellent. Funny at times but sad too. She was if it was real life very sick, an infantile sort of sickness. He loved her since they were children and he grew up she didnt. Locked in a childlike damaged world so of course she would need that type of husband. When she said she hadnt cleaned her teeth at end such a childlike response and a childlike unawareness of the damage she caused. Sad for him as he thought it could have worked but realised he had to end her life 😔

  • @fredflintstoner596
    @fredflintstoner596 Рік тому +8

    Mrs Richards: "I paid for a room with a view!"
    Basil: (pointing to the lovely view) "That is Torquay, Madam."
    Mrs Richards: "It's not good enough!"
    Basil: "May I ask what you were expecting to see out of a Torquay hotel bedroom window? Sydney Opera House, perhaps? the Hanging Gardens of Babylon? Herds of wildebeest sweeping majestically past?..."
    Mrs Richards: "Don't be silly! I expect to be able to see the sea!"
    Basil: "You can see the sea, it's over there between the land and the sky."
    Mrs Richards: "I'm not satisfied. But I shall stay. But I expect a reduction."
    Basil: "Why?! Because Krakatoa's not erupting at the moment ?"

    • @jasanders5877
      @jasanders5877 2 місяці тому

      😂 shut up YOU bloody PIF 💯😎

  • @danagleesonpilling
    @danagleesonpilling Рік тому +4

    like a very bad drug trip

  • @fionagallegos9072
    @fionagallegos9072 5 місяців тому +1

    Yikes! Barry Foster. Brilliant and unexpected.

  • @richardnorris9256
    @richardnorris9256 Місяць тому

    When I read the Sherlock Holmes stories as a kid, Bob Peck was always what I imagined Sherlock Holmes to be like - thin, hooked nose, intense eyes. Shame he never played the part imo.
    When I read about Elizabeth I, Miranda Richardson is always what I imagine Elizabeth I to be like, probably for different reasons ("there are simply hundreds of Catholics who can't wait to have their heads snicked off...").

  • @hildaheadge8213
    @hildaheadge8213 6 місяців тому +1

    Brilliant 😅

  • @daviddavid1346
    @daviddavid1346 Рік тому +3

    Night would be best.More conventional too I should think for burying bodies on the quiet.

  • @phillipbonner9944
    @phillipbonner9944 7 місяців тому +1

    I only watched this play as the great Barry Foster never seen him play comedy, you can't wog these days Barry 😂😂

  • @colinglass1342
    @colinglass1342 11 місяців тому

    Just wonderd is actress julie foster sister to Actor Barry Foster who was in hitchcocks film frenzy and of course THE CLASSIC ITVS DUTCH DETECTIVE SERIES VANDER VALK.

  • @tomkent4656
    @tomkent4656 Рік тому +7

    Simon Gray - the thinking man's Dennis Potter!

    • @Shoshana-xh6hc
      @Shoshana-xh6hc Рік тому +1

      Dennis Potter was a genius, this stuff is dated, unlike the Singing Detective.

    • @HookBeak_66
      @HookBeak_66 Рік тому +3

      @@Shoshana-xh6hc Potter nursed his terminally ill wife, kept to a punishing schedule to write. He wrote his manuscript with a pen, bound in place with a bandage, as his psoriatic arthritis was so bad. It literally was 'blood, sweat & tears' from Dennis Potter. This story was actually told by Potter from an interview I once watched.

  • @heartfielding
    @heartfielding Рік тому +5

    test your wit IQ on this one. delicious.

  • @missmurrydesign7115
    @missmurrydesign7115 10 місяців тому +1

    Delicious...

  • @steviem8466
    @steviem8466 Рік тому +4

    Weird and sadistic

  • @VickersDoorter
    @VickersDoorter 2 місяці тому

    Ah, wonderful 1980s Oxford, when it sported a fine collection of independent bookshops. Alas, all now replaced by coffee shops, Cool Britannia and Harry Potter crap.

  • @elijaprice
    @elijaprice Місяць тому

    "Clever girl"
    "We had tea and cakes and venison and then a trip with a couple of little friends to the executions. If I wanted any of my little friends executed that was."
    Etc.

  • @hart1625
    @hart1625 10 місяців тому

    After Pilkington (TV Episode 1987) / 8.1
    What's happened to Pilkington? James doesn't much care, he's far more interested in renewing acquaintance with the girl he silently adored as a teenager - but maybe she knows something.

  • @bevygaines
    @bevygaines 13 днів тому

    What about the car at 36:28????

  • @MrPINKFL0YD
    @MrPINKFL0YD 7 місяців тому

    They could have cleaned the sound up

  • @paulspice4717
    @paulspice4717 Рік тому +5

    What's this all about. Good? The emperor's new suit complex

  • @2msvalkyrie529
    @2msvalkyrie529 24 дні тому

    Decline and Fall of a Simp..

  • @AllyPerrott
    @AllyPerrott Рік тому +1

    Is that you Queenie?

  • @luceforma2256
    @luceforma2256 Рік тому

    i am sure i have not a clue what hit me. 😮😂

  • @tominnis8353
    @tominnis8353 10 місяців тому

    Anyone else feel a touch guilty for finding things funny which, in reality, wouldn't have been?

  • @2msvalkyrie529
    @2msvalkyrie529 24 дні тому

    Bob Peck dreadfully miscast here..!

  • @roysaxon2619
    @roysaxon2619 10 місяців тому

    Why did he kill her in the end? Why not just phone the police?

    • @sholemgimpel6050
      @sholemgimpel6050 9 місяців тому

      Because he loved her, could not bear to see her arrested, tried and convicted.

    • @roysaxon2619
      @roysaxon2619 9 місяців тому

      @@sholemgimpel6050
      Appreciated. That makes perfect sense given the situation that they were in. Thanks. 👍

  • @user-ed2nd2fs3u
    @user-ed2nd2fs3u 11 місяців тому

    I watched it because it won a prize, if you want to be bored to death, watch this

  • @davidmyles9967
    @davidmyles9967 3 роки тому +7

    head like a fookin orange!

    • @joankersting2358
      @joankersting2358 2 роки тому +4

      Toilet tongue

    • @davidmyles9967
      @davidmyles9967 2 роки тому +7

      @@joankersting2358 yes i know, forgive me, i didnt want to lower the tone in a brand new comment section. but do you get the reference? do you know where the phrase comes from and why its relevant to this video? if not check out the "Ricky Gervais & Karl Pilkington podcasts" and in there, every 10 minutes or so, Ricky Gervais will call Karl Pilkington "a bald Manc twat with a head like a fookin orange". it doesnt look like any fans of the podcasts have clicked on this video yet though. i`m surprised they didnt, like me, just click on it for the name alone.

    • @E-Kat
      @E-Kat Рік тому

      @@joankersting2358hat's wrong with "fookin"? Obviously you have swear words on your mind. Wash your mind.

    • @colinglass1342
      @colinglass1342 11 місяців тому

      @@davidmyles9967 Bill Haily maybe

  • @jamieorourke767
    @jamieorourke767 Рік тому

    BBC prewoke day😊

  • @Kiinell
    @Kiinell 2 роки тому +12

    I can't for the life of me work out why this was award winning. A very implausible and sketchy plot. Very daft.

    • @patrickpaganini
      @patrickpaganini 2 роки тому +4

      You might not be English - or maybe just expecting something different? Don't you find the drunken garden scene at the beginning funny? I wouldn't have thought the humour was that subtle - but I guess anything that goes over one's head is subtle.

    • @adoublemaltneatplease2883
      @adoublemaltneatplease2883 2 роки тому

      Probably for just those reasons, you know what the so called intellectual classes are like, the complete opposite of intelligent.

    • @giuseppenero110
      @giuseppenero110 2 роки тому +2

      For the intellectual toffs only

    • @wendischofield4543
      @wendischofield4543 Рік тому +1

      Much more to it than meets the eye. Schubert’s “ Die Furelle” played throughout a subtle reference to what lies beneath the waters- a beautiful creature to look at- but much more than that.

    • @gerryhouska2859
      @gerryhouska2859 Рік тому +11

      Even though I've seen it before, I still found it hilarious and laughed out loud quite a few times. There must be something wrong with one of us, and I don't think it's I.

  • @jamesmoore9511
    @jamesmoore9511 Рік тому

    Enough with the phony movie projector sound - So I'm not going to watch a movie with such crap!

  • @BarbaraHartley-i9r
    @BarbaraHartley-i9r 11 місяців тому

    Boring...a waste of time..fell asleep during this.

  • @mikejohnson599
    @mikejohnson599 Рік тому +1

    not funny at all just sick

  • @eddiemunster2196
    @eddiemunster2196 Рік тому +1

    Please take the time to read this because you will laugh.
    Involving the famous John Thaw
    Inspector Morse. ;
    May,
    John Thaw,
    rest in peace
    he's is & alway's
    will be my most favorite Detective
    Inspector Morse.
    Please continue to read...... .... ..
    They're really should have been a continuation to this with the police and investigations.

    Why, you ask ?
    Well outside her house where she stabbed that man in the neck, which was a veterinarian, but also Porkers lover.
    But in reality they were childhood boyfriend and girlfriend.
    -The lover is dead :
    - She is dead :
    - Porker is still,
    alive...
    - With the cheating husband...
    - alive & well
    Strolling home
    as he thinks ?
    -Where Porker was,
    covering for him,
    as he went to ,
    London to see his,
    barmaid.
    This is where Inspector Morse would walk into the second movie.
    I could write the opening scene immediately,
    where Inspector
    Morse would pull,
    up pull up with Hastings in the ,
    red jaguar.
    - In the small
    college town :
    - The husband calls the ambulance for his wife and she turns out not to be dead,
    She wakes up,
    In the hospital screaming.
    I will kill you with my scissors to her husband.
    She is immediately committed for the criminal insane.
    As Inspector Morse is quite puzzled over this Then Inspector,
    Morse goes to his boss, then talks him into continuing the case :
    still wants to investigate the husband and Porker.
    Hmm. ?
    Yes I have much more I could write. !

    • @HookBeak_66
      @HookBeak_66 Рік тому +1

      One author plagiaries the other yet is re-written by a third, not sure this would be taken seriously for publication. You need to change all the names & places to make it viable.

  • @paulmardon9268
    @paulmardon9268 Рік тому +3

    Boooriiiing!!

  • @slayskool1964
    @slayskool1964 Рік тому +1

    Where's Karl??