I'm in a rehab hospital in Tampa from a stroke last week. They do not utilize such a simple device. I will bring it up tomorrow in our weekly pow wow. Thank you for posting
Well, after talking to all the therapists. None seemed interested. It's such a low cost investment for a mirror to implement where it would be applied.
I recently lost half my finger in an accident at work and I really find this helpful the struggle is real people and i feel for everyone who is goin threw the similar sort of thing as I am goin threw though it’s tuff Ino but keep up the hard work and you will achieve greatness 😌
This gentleman was a good sport letting these OT’s film him! Really cool mirror box therapy. I read about this when I was getting ready to go to OT School myself. However, at the time, it seemed to be used more for phantom limb syndrome after amputation, so very cool to see it used in post-stroke recovery. Two thumbs up, literally! :)
@@nathaliafaria1177 One can use direct observation with passivity in the affected limb for mirror neuron activation alone, but I like using the mirror box with stroke patients to have them more directly imagine the affected limb moving and trying to mimic the movements their unaffected limb is making to work on bridging the gap between mirror neuron activation and the 'wiring' of direct use. Like a difference between passively observing the limb is moving, and showing the brain that an order has been given to complete a necessary task. Similar, but different in an important way. Despite the activations that are elicited by mirror neuron firing, I want a top down order being given to the brain for the use of the affected limb. I will give homework which goes through a range of sensory and propropceptive activation, passive movement of the limb, attempts to move the limb directly, and mirror box work, etc.
I thought the same! But this will work when the patient will focus completely into the mirror and imagine that the weakened hand is performing the activity, we need to give lots of verbal feedback, then this is much possible
Thanks for posting this, it is very helpful for those of us working in neuro or chronic pain . I really like giving this to patients when they are discharged to go home, and have over a year to take advantage of neuroplasticity. I would love an update to see how this fellow is doing now!
I understand policies of confidentiality, and respect them entirely. That said, you are posting his health information on UA-cam in the first place..................perhaps you mean to say he doesn't wish to have more of his personal health information posted?@@HelenHayesHospital
Treatment varies by individual and diagnosis. We would advise that a patient consult their doctor to determine the level of treatment frequency that would be most beneficial to them.
I'm reading the book The Brain that Changes Itself by Norman Doidge M.D., that's how I found myself here. I recommend reading it. There are some fascinating stories of post-stroke rehabilitation. Good luck with your recovery 🙏
My Mother had a stroke and lost function in her right arm (she is left handed) I'm trying this out with a jury rigged cardboard version. Stroke outcomes are a unique as fingerprints and snowflakes, so we shall see what happens.
Herbal medicine is the best to treat our body system naturally Hi I’ve been living with stroke 😭 for more than 5years now but I got rid of it naturally after using dr Omo herbal medicine it help me fight stroke naturally his channel youtube.com/@dromocure
My dad had a brain hemorrhage he has right hemiplegia lower limb somewhat is good But the upper limb has a little move only can close his hand can't open it. The operation was in 14th October it's from 4 months ago can i contact with a doctor please. Thanks
GREAT DEMONSTRATION. I was shown mirror therapy for my brother-in-law and it was a little different. I would like your input if possible. The activity was to open and close the hand from a fist. Instead of just watching the good hand in the mirror w/ the affected hand not moving I was instructed to move the affected hand at the same rate as the non-affected hand (which was being watched in mirror). In other words I was opening and closing the affected hand as he opened and closed and watched in mirror the non- affected hand. Should he only watch-or is manipulation of affected hand at same rate to his benifit? Thank You
your patient here already has a very good functioning L UE. Does this work well for those with flaccid or trace movements? I have used this with patients for posture sitting in front of a mirror as feedback to improve sitting posture/balance.
the affected arm is in the box. you want the "good" arm to be on the outside, which is what you see moving. thats the good arm. the bad arm is in the box.
My patient has a stroke befor 2 years and her hand will not improve she can't move ther hand .. are you think this mirror therapy is useful !? please answer my question !?!
Treatment varies by individual and diagnosis. We would advise that each patient’s treatment team look into the benefits of particular treatment options on a case by case basis.
I hope this gentleman made a full recovery
8 years later, I hope you’re both living your best heroes, both inspirational. Joe and the therapist 🙏🏻💖
Ramachandran’s ground breaking research outcome, especially for curing phantom pain
I'm in a rehab hospital in Tampa from a stroke last week. They do not utilize such a simple device. I will bring it up tomorrow in our weekly pow wow.
Thank you for posting
Well, after talking to all the therapists. None seemed interested.
It's such a low cost investment for a mirror to implement where it would be applied.
Well duh they wanna keep you for as long as possible, so let me ask is your health care free?
best wish for you
I recently lost half my finger in an accident at work and I really find this helpful the struggle is real people and i feel for everyone who is goin threw the similar sort of thing as I am goin threw though it’s tuff Ino but keep up the hard work and you will achieve greatness 😌
*WhaT line oF woRK weRe yoU inVoLVeD in.?!?* 😵
Thank you for producing this video!! Best wishes for Mr. Joe's continuing recovery!!
This gentleman was a good sport letting these OT’s film him! Really cool mirror box therapy. I read about this when I was getting ready to go to OT School myself. However, at the time, it seemed to be used more for phantom limb syndrome after amputation, so very cool to see it used in post-stroke recovery. Two thumbs up, literally! :)
I believe affected UE should be attempting those movements while the unaffected is as well
actually no. you must keep it still
@@nathaliafaria1177 It depends on the intended purpose.
@@thriveintegratedrehabilita8580 really? can you share more about It?
@@nathaliafaria1177 One can use direct observation with passivity in the affected limb for mirror neuron activation alone, but I like using the mirror box with stroke patients to have them more directly imagine the affected limb moving and trying to mimic the movements their unaffected limb is making to work on bridging the gap between mirror neuron activation and the 'wiring' of direct use. Like a difference between passively observing the limb is moving, and showing the brain that an order has been given to complete a necessary task. Similar, but different in an important way. Despite the activations that are elicited by mirror neuron firing, I want a top down order being given to the brain for the use of the affected limb. I will give homework which goes through a range of sensory and propropceptive activation, passive movement of the limb, attempts to move the limb directly, and mirror box work, etc.
I thought the same!
But this will work when the patient will focus completely into the mirror and imagine that the weakened hand is performing the activity, we need to give lots of verbal feedback, then this is much possible
Thanks for posting this, it is very helpful for those of us working in neuro or chronic pain . I really like giving this to patients when they are discharged to go home, and have over a year to take advantage of neuroplasticity. I would love an update to see how this fellow is doing now!
Unfortunately we are unable to reveal that personal health
information for this patient. Please let us know if we can be of further
help!
I understand policies of confidentiality, and respect them entirely. That said, you are posting his health information on UA-cam in the first place..................perhaps you mean to say he doesn't wish to have more of his personal health information posted?@@HelenHayesHospital
@@physiotherapistpaulina9340 😆 *gReaT repLy.!!* 👍
It's helpful after one year post stroke
Thank you
Does effective for numbness?
Hi, how often do I have to do it I had a stroke 2 years ago and I can't move my left hand.
I hope you’re recovering well? 🙏🏻💖
I am a stroke patient and I today started the therapy I just wanna know how much time is required
Treatment varies by individual and diagnosis. We would advise that a patient consult their doctor to determine the level of treatment frequency that would be most beneficial to them.
I'm reading the book The Brain that Changes Itself by Norman Doidge M.D., that's how I found myself here. I recommend reading it. There are some fascinating stories of post-stroke rehabilitation. Good luck with your recovery 🙏
I wonder if this could be done for a winged scapula?
Acupuncture cured my winged scapula
@@cal1251 no way, that’s awesome. God bless you. I will look into it. Does your shoulder feel better now?
@@cal1251 did they do front and back of shoulder ?
My Mother had a stroke and lost function in her right arm (she is left handed) I'm trying this out with a jury rigged cardboard version. Stroke outcomes are a unique as fingerprints and snowflakes, so we shall see what happens.
Herbal medicine is the best to treat our body system naturally Hi I’ve been living with stroke 😭 for more than 5years now but I got rid of it naturally after using dr Omo herbal medicine it help me fight stroke naturally his channel youtube.com/@dromocure
My dad had a brain hemorrhage he has right hemiplegia lower limb somewhat is good But the upper limb has a little move only can close his hand can't open it. The operation was in 14th October it's from 4 months ago can i contact with a doctor please.
Thanks
excellent
GREAT DEMONSTRATION. I was shown mirror therapy for my brother-in-law and it was a little different. I would like your input if possible. The activity was to open and close the hand from a fist. Instead of just watching the good hand in the mirror w/ the affected hand not moving I was instructed to move the affected hand at the same rate as the non-affected hand (which was being watched in mirror). In other words I was opening and closing the affected hand as he opened and closed and watched in mirror the non- affected hand. Should he only watch-or is manipulation of affected hand at same rate to his benifit?
Thank You
+Sara Cyl-Champlin The person should watch and try to perform the task using both sides.
Affected hand should move simultaneously
Doctor I need your help please 🙏🙏🙏
My mummy had a ischemic stroke I find she does baby the hand , the hand numb, she does only the squeeze a sponge ball
Can I get trained with that
she's amazing!
Are these available for home use?
Take a look here. ua-cam.com/video/AlVVHSzrvPc/v-deo.html The company is SAEBO
@@HelenHayesHospital unfortunately they are out of stock until October
your patient here already has a very good functioning L UE. Does this work well for those with flaccid or trace movements? I have used this with patients for posture sitting in front of a mirror as feedback to improve sitting posture/balance.
the affected arm is in the box. you want the "good" arm to be on the outside, which is what you see moving. thats the good arm. the bad arm is in the box.
I don't getb it. It looked like he wasb looking down....i justdont understand. The mirror was facing away so he couldnt see it
From the way it was videotaped it does not seem like he was looking into the mirror, but he was.
My patient has a stroke befor 2 years and her hand will not improve she can't move ther hand .. are you think this mirror therapy is useful !? please answer my question !?!
Treatment varies by individual and diagnosis. We would advise that each patient’s treatment team look into the benefits of particular treatment options on a case by case basis.
He is not looking at the reflection
even if'd do that this would turn out pointless.coz my affected arm is having a muscle astrophy.while the other is whole lot of thick.
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