I got a $70k tech certification job without a degree
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- This is when I realized that you don't need a degree to get a well-paying IT job. If I can do it, so can you!
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Meanwhile me with a degree not getting 1 call back 💀
Yeah, seriously though
good i think it's good it send a clear message that school is waste of time and a waste our childhood simple jobs that make u earn money at a young age probably would have been a better schooling than the actual school it self
What are you going to do about it bro? Aim higher but stuff the degree, certs etc. Get out of the rat race and start now. Go higher.
@@gemg5871feel this. what certificates do you reccomend getting that will actually direct me in a direction of getting hired
@@YousefTubebelieve it or not I remember there was a time where you could actually call a play about a job that was listed in the paper and ask them questions about it so you could even decide for yourself if you even want it to work there before you went through all the trouble of sending a resume or anything and once you did send a resume or put in an application you could actually call them or stop in in person and ask them if they looked at your resume or application yet and you could try to set up an interview I mean it used to be so much more civilized and then once they started with people applying for jobs online it just got crazier and crazier and crazier .
At first it wasn't so bad but once everything started to become more automated where they would use a program to scan and read the resumes is when it got really out of hand .
My ex told me that a long time ago. Just apply any way. You’re already in the “no” because you haven’t applied, so what could it hurt? And that’s how I became a project manager for a construction company… was once of the best jobs I’ve ever had!
No experience before hand?
@@playboijay962 Nope! Just made my resume as professional and relevant as possible. I was in that interview lying my ASS off! Lol They did do a reference check, but I was already prepared for that. I had my aunt and mom (who are both seasoned professionals) give them the reference. That’s the company I worked for when Elon Musk was my boss.
Wait what! I need to do this now. I used to be construction for 8 years. You just gave me hope!
@@MamiTT237wait omg i have some questions if thats ok??
@@MamiTT237so they called your mom and aunt?
I've learned after being out of school for like a decade; It's not about your credentials. It's about who can pull some strings for you to get in the door.
This is exactly right, it has nothing to do with what a person can do
So no one.
It's about an individual, how well you can play the game
*THIS IS HOW PEOPLE GOT THE SAYING, "it's not what you know, it's WHO you know." THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT THE WORKERS INSIDE BEING REFERENCES REFERRING YOU INSIDE!*
Nepotism!
I am appalled at how many companies require a bachelor degree just to sit in an office and answer the phone.
Dude, a receptionist or admin assistant doesn't require a degree unless it's a very specialized field. They do, however, require ridiculous years of experience...and is in favor of a certain gender.
@@dwargonedragon794 You haven't been job searching lately it seems, good for you. Employers are obsessed with hiring degree holders, it's stigma.
@@dwargonedragon794i think you missed the point
@@dwargonedragon794yes they do? You sound ignorant and upset
@@kelliezee No, why would I be upset? I'm just stating facts. Are you autistic or something?
I have a BS in Mechanical engineering could not get hired anywhere but then I asked around my friend pulled me in to a good company. It's not what you know it's who you know.
I dont k ow anyone I domtnhave any friends sept oprah but barely even her we don't hang out
Easier said than done. It absolute sucks how you have to be social and fake in some cases to get where you need to be. In my eyes, that is pathetic. But hey, I am the broke one here.
It’s not who you know. It’s who knows YoU!
@@fencho4381agreed been 4 months outta college and the one connection I have isn’t even in the right industry
Facts it's who u know
I am a developer. I make over $100k/year. I have no degree, no certifications, lot’s of experience. Degrees are useful but don’t take the place of experience. If you are willing to teach yourself and show what you can do then you will thrive.
it shouldnt have to be
that way though.
How did you get started in that field?
That part 💪🏽
Do you really love it?
What did you exactly do? Did you go to a boot camp or something?
I once applied for a job claiming to have a degree. during my 2nd interview, they asked me to send a diploma. I told them since I had completed it online during covid I never got to walk the stage.... They told me just to send the diploma to them after receiving it in the mail. That never happened. I worked for that company for 6 months and saw the absolute incompetence of others. Left. I did the job better than those who had the degree...
You’re still a liar.
You got fired, and were probably mediocre at best.
😂😂 I need to try this
🤯
@@shesty1697it only works for a youte folks
Shout out to all my no degree finessors🤝🏾
How? what do I look up to get some game?
@@TaylorBlack420get certs
@TaylorBlack420 you can be a sales man business person if you talk well and have charisma and go to rich places and network they can get you in the circle
Certifications!!!
@T.Harry79 This!
As someone with a business degree, Class A CDL, Forklift cert and MEWP cert, I can definitely tell ya, certifications and/or licenses go WAY farther than a degree in anything.
Yep. I myself work in tech and have no degree. But in a previous life, I drove a semi, so like you, I have a class-A CDL. Regardless, I was shocked at how many of my coworkers back then had Bachelor’s or even Master’s degrees. From what they told me, jobs in their fields of study paid peanuts compared to how much they made driving trucks, and student loans wouldn’t pay themselves off.
@RealPolitik-dy4it I don't doubt it, brother. Wild how that works.
@@Reef_Runner It makes sense if you think about it. The jobs which most degrees will get you start at around $40k and top out at $100k. Meanwhile, back when I drove (car hauler), the company drivers were making around $3k/week. Mind you, these guys had student loans they needed to pay off. Some of them worked in their fields but were underpaid, meanwhile others couldn’t find jobs in their fields, and eventually decided to pay off their student loans by driving trucks.
@@RealPolitik-dy4it Trades will always be the way to go.
I had an entire IT career spanning 1984-2024 with companies like HP, Northrup Grumman, Deloitte, making well over 100k with just certifications.
I spent 6 years active duty Navy for Cyber, after separation I immediately landed $100k/yr at my first job with no degree. 1 company change and an additional job change later (5 years since separation) and I'm making $170k as a Cybersecurity Engineer, still no degree. And I'm working from home 100%.
How did you enter navy for cyber...what was the procedure
@@Asian12354You take a test called the ASVAB (Armed Services Vocational Aptitude Battery). The score on the ASVAB determines if you are eligible to to school for IT.
@@Asian12354 the rating is CTN just google navy CTN if you are wanting to enlist its highly challenging IT is a great second choice
They taught you cybersecurity in the navy?
Sounds great. I bet you are over 6ft
My husband is an HR manager and I've seen him go through resumes, they don't care about your degree as much anymore: experience, certifications and can you perform are "key"
That doesn’t make any sense.
If they don’t care about the degree, why list that as a requirement in the job ad?
@@mecanuktutorials6476 usually its the higher ups who approve the requirements, but apply even if you don't have a degree but have a ton of experience. The recruiters are just looking for someone who can do the job well.
@@mecanuktutorials6476- Probably to keep the applicants pool small enough to go through the resumes, and weed out the people who don't have one so they'll be discouraged to apply. Making only a handful of those without a degree take a chance at applying anyway. But some companies do actually care about a Degree and use that an indicator often seen as a sign of dedication and hard work.
its not that they dont care about the degree. its just that in your resume, education part is regarded, whether thats a diploma, cert, degree or etc. thats why in job boards sometimes you see them mentioning other things like certs and stuff .
@@mecanuktutorials6476 well the requirements section is just iffy. its there to acknowledge your education or they have a preference for it.
She knew somebody who gave her the inside track.
Right that was a real vague lil' chat
haha most likely
Yep. Strange for change.
Hater much?
Really ? I wonder how that stuff works
I got super lucky and was able to somehow get hired on for a position that requires a bachelors degree without even having a high school diploma. All I had was a stack of certifications I earned during Covid when I started. I’m going on my third year with the company and have since earned my high school diploma and now I’m currently working on my associates degree and planning to complete a bachelors after. I didn’t have to go back to school I chose to for my own personal fulfillment. It’s definitely possible to get a corporate job without a degree I’m living proof.
Can you share what those certifications were?
How exactly do you feel fulfilled in going back to school when you basically skipped it and got to where you needed to be without it? Are you going back maybe so you have something to fall back on if you can’t continue with your current job? Or maybe societal pressure? I know of I choose have skipped I would have
What happens is that they know its a good paying job with benefits and probably easy to do so they try to pass it to friends or family first meanwhile they put up an ad asking for outragious credentials and experience they know that nobody can fill.
Bingo
I don't have an IT degree either. I do freelance IT support work, I randomly thought to put together my resume and posted on all the job boards. A week and a half later I had an offer letter for a company called Baycom. Don't let you not having a degree stop you.
@@unitedteststrips4272 If you think about it, what does a degree actually say about your skills and knowledge? Nothing. Employers need people with specific skills to solve specific problems. Either you have those skills or you don’t.
Could you name some of the job boards you used?
Did you get the compTIA A+ cert or no?
Lie on the resume, lie about your identity, lie about your years of experience. Theres two sides of every coin and this is the one that companies chose. They did this with malicious intent, therefore they will get a response with malicious intent.
It’s crazy even mechanics I meet some dudes I was getting my car fix they don’t even have degrees or nothing they was just good with cars
Right. I don’t even care anymore.. they want to play games well then let me join the game and be savage too 😅
Yeah but how do you avoid getting caught during a background check?
@@uwotm8634The worst thing that can happen is rejection in the hiring process or firing after a few months. There is nothing they can do. You can lie about almost everything to get the dream job. The only references you can’t use are fabricated documents because it’s illegal. DO NOT FABRICATE COLLEGE DEGREES.
😅😅
yea it's great until AI start automatically denying your application because you don't have a bachelors
Lol
Yep you’re gd right
I have a bachelors. So I will put
Good for you??@@forcedriven9328
Jack the AI
I do not have any degrees or certificates to my name, I don't even have a high school diploma, I dropped out my junior year and got my GED. But I managed to get into a high skill technician position and I make 6 figures now.
You don't need college degrees to make good money. If you like to work with your hands and like machines, go be a technician. It's looked down on and younger people don't want to be a technician, which creates a shortage of skilled techs, but things still need to be fixed so the demand has gone up for these skills and so has the pay.
Preach!! Your story is amazing! What industry are you in? What kind of tech are you?
I had a buddy in high school that was 1 out of 2 guys that didn’t go to college right after school. He ended up continuing doing large appliance repair. (He was already doing it in school.) Long story short he ended up owning his own appliance repair company and makes more than 95% of the people in my graduating class.
@@DegreeFree I am a lead controls tech. Best way I can describe it is that I am a programmer / electrician for automated industrial machinery.
But you need to be a boomer or gen x, those are the only people who get those opportunities.
@@Canadianvoice I'm a millennial?
@@bg4779 I am from Dallas Texas and looking for a job. Would you please show me how to get a certificate and apply for a job position like yours. Many thanks
Great work experience is far more important than a degree.
This is unrealistic and not believable. Today in 2024 you have to have a degree and experience or just be darn good and have connections. I will bet money she had a good connection aka family
Who said you have to have a degree? Just get lots of experience. That's all you need.
It’s a bad market in general. With that in mind though, if the job is above mid-level and especially senior, they tend to overlook degrees in favor of tech stack and experience.
The only time a degree really helps is if you are entry-level with literally zero experience. But even then, you are better off working on personal/open source projects, as opposed to just having a degree.
Heck, you can work on an open source project for a couple of years and then apply for mid-level roles.
Shes a woman, shell get in on dei. This has been measured and a female resume generally gets callbacks at a rate of 600% more than male degree depsite everything being the same except the name
I got a high paying job by cold calling hiring managers no degree lol
Me too I’m a network engineer who self studied and proved I can do the work in front of them my job required a bachelors never came
Up I did the skills and technical interview and got an offer 15 mins after the interview
Hey can you help ( i am electronic and communication engineer )
That’s awesome.
im a network enginerer as well for 37 yrs lies all lies, i ran the largest isp in the usas network for 14 yrs and only 20 yr olds with hr mommys blessing get employed
@@jaspreetkaur-pn6qkyou can self study for CCNA then CCNP
@@invalidaccount2315tell me why my roommate told me this exact story, a dude got hired for swe intern cuz his mom works at the company, but he had to switch his major from cs to it because he can’t his coding classes
A. Technician does a huge important part so that’s not something to look down on in fact anybody looking down on somebody for the kind of work they do need to check themselves!
Yup! Definitely!
a technician is a low level low skill waste of skin, techs do nothing but break stuff us engineers have to fix.
@invalidaccount2315
You're not even an engineer, quit lying 🙄
I have no degree, I climbed up to US/Canada Order Ops Supervisor. It's totally doable, you have to climb but even the bottom rung, is better than minimum wage. You need the journey anyway, to become more professional and skilled
Sounds good man. Any advice for landing that first job that isn’t a scammy minimum wage job?
@@rebinu I took office temp jobs in community college. Quiet offices, tea and snacks whenever you wanted, I was in heaven and tried very hard to keep my job. The company ended up offering me full time employment, no more temp agency, and I never bothered to finish school
Selling false hope. This is NOT the norm, especially when even many well degreed and well cert-ed ppl can't get callbacks.
Sorry, bud that's a skill issue. People who have a degree take jobs for granted. I have no degree or rather I could not finish it for financial reasons. No longer in a position to continue studying without earning money. What degree does is certifies you of something to be capable of doing, But is that the only way?
No. You make projects solve problems in the industry contribute to open source. And whats possible now which wasn't before are "certifications" not "certificates" there is a difference you are gonna have to google if you dont know. I'm going to Data Science Im going to go for AWS Database/Machine Learning/Data Analytics And IBM Data Science Professional Certifications and Google Data Engineer/Machine Learning certifications and Azure Certifications and so many more that more than qualifies you for 2+ years. What are they gonna say
"even though you have experience working on projects and solving problems and these exams that you cleared certifies you from different cloud systems which generally recommended for professionals with atleast 2-3 years of experience working with their respective systems, we are gonna have to pass up on you "just" because you dont have a degree"? When people as incompetent as you are sitting around with degrees does it really matter?
What you said about it not being a norm is absolutely correct! But why would you want to be a NORM? I swear degree holders are legit people with pacifers in their mouth, legit scared of doing anything out of the ordinary.
From the beginning of IT up until 5 years ago mahbe it was the norm to get into IT without a degree but this days it’s different. If you’re new and don’t have a degree it will be hard finding a job and once you do your salary will be like $29k-$32k
@@Me-eb3wvso basically I'm fucked
Get certificates online. Is as good as degrees & u learn more that way tbh
my bro got hire 120k compiata+ with a requirement to get AWS certification in 2 weeks. all he did was shardow an employee doing aws for 4 weeks from previous job. he just got his first pay check.@@Me-eb3wv
I have no certification but still have a job. Certification is a pass for getting jobs. No certification doesn't mean you can't get that job. Make the company want to take you in with your skills and experience you have. Lack of IQ doesn't mean you lose. What you have to do is just work harder and believe in yourself. 👍👍
Some specific jobs are very stubborn and don’t care unless if you have a degree(s)
career advisors type whatever you claim
Damn I needed to read that.
I just finished an interview today for a position that makes $60k remote working three days on three days off. Rotating Wednesday’s. I have no degree or certification. Over the last two years I busted my ass grinding and learning.
I believe the interview went well. Didn’t ask me if I had a degree or cert. rapid fired questions instead.
I felt the imposter syndrome but also surprised myself. I’m hoping I can get an offer
That’s just pretentious, you need a degree because you will never get QOL workplace, and you can never be a jumper. I doubt you will ever know that hypocritical woman
@@waylonbraswell8445so you got the job with no certs, no degree, no nothing? doubt it
Female gender helps a lot these days, at least to get the interview.
😂😂😂 grow up
Stop lying we get rejected too
True. There are actually hiring quotas for females and minorities.
@@redpilljesus depends on the industry, majority of jobs do not have this quota
@@Wavedashnoirbruh, it's true, you know how many times I've seen this blatantly written in online listings? Here's a word for word copy/paste example:
"Qualified candidates who self-declare as members of Indigenous peoples, persons with disabilities, members of racialized communities and/or women may be selected for appointment first, to fulfill organizational needs. In addition, this organizational need may be invoked at any stage of the selection process."
Me being a rebellious kid that found the public education system to be complete bs for me and just committed 6 years of studying at the library and buying books from Barnes and nobles. I was hired and called back many times for a cybersecurity position with no degree.
Coming to find out that alot my colleagues who have degrees lacked real hands on experience in comparison to me breaking 5 computers within those years.
Not invalidating, having a college degree but I believe it depends on what you do with that knowledge
I have 3 trade liscences a bachelors in business admin. Applied to over 3000 places landed 3 interviews and one of the interviews wasnt even somthing i applied for or was applicable to my background. Somthing isnt adding up and im considering getting a masters in engineering or going for my doctorate so i am someone you LITTERALLY CANNOT TURN AWAY. I just got fired from a construction job i had no experience in and im seriously considering just offing myself because im not going to tolerate living a life where im never happy and only hopeful. Im tired of feeling like im not worth anything while i see the potential to change the world as a whole within myself. Im tired of life falling so short of my expectations.
You're not alone in how you're feeling, Dan. Take heart and don't lose hope. You are so valuable and worthy of happiness. Try networking with friends/colleagues and see what's up. In this day and age, you have to know people that know people. Also, location is important!
I’m in a similar boat.
Don’t give up man. Keep going.
You have the education but you most likely lack the social network. It doesn't hurt to make friends and party with people in college, or ask for you parents if they know someone.
This reminded me if a buddyboyo who had 3 trade certs but can't find a job on those bec he doesn't know anyone from those fields. Ended up a sewer boy since he knew someone there, it pays well but is hard, heavy, dangerous, dirty, disgusting.
I have been feeling exactly the same. Keep going. Eventually one day you will see all your hard work pay off.. Rome wasn’t built in a day
Don't fkn give up, you re gonna make it and look back on this feeling and glad you stuck it out. Just keep networking and knocking on doors. It'll happen I promise
You can very easily educate yourself with the internet. And also gain some experience with it as well its really awsome. The only thing is some jobs do require degrees by law such as teaching so if you want to teach then it is required. But there are a lot of jobs like she said that will hire anyway.
I am inspired by this comment... Please help me with this, that I don't have any technical degree or computer science degree because I don't do my qualifications in those courses. I've done BA ( Bachelor Of Arts in English Honours ) in 2020. Now I don't make a proper decision what to do next for get a chance to tech jobs like ( software engineer, data scientist, network engineer and more..) so I have decided to get admission in BCA course for a 3 years degree. Is it worthy for me or not? Please help me!
@@helechoale1979 im not too familiar with BCA. If you live in america and want a degree i would recommend whats called alternative learning collage they work similarly to vocational school in places like Germany. There are many schools and courses to choose from. And there degrees are recognized by all employers. What these schools do is teach you what you NEED to know to be prepared for the job. Where as traditional colleges try to pour as much information into you as possible so you fail and have to stay for another year and pay them more money. Depending on your knowledge that you already have and what course you take, you could probably get a bachelors degree in eight months, but it can take as much as five years although that's pretty rare and only in very specific courses like level two or three engineering most courses will take two years with minimal knowledge. Hope it helps.
@@helechoale1979 are you planning on moving to america i only have knowledge about U.S system Canadian system and some of the german system. other than that im not much of help when in comes to india 😅
Same thing happened to me. Cybersecurity testing job at Intertek no degree.
Awesome!!! That's amazing! What were you doing before that?
Did you have experience? I’m finding it hard to get my foot in the door
@@itzlexxii I was about to finish high school. I had gotten the Google IT Certification and taken a bunch of CS classes from a local community college. They occasionally posted jobs on their job board, I didn't even apply to a bunch of jobs, 3 max. It was a pleasant surprise when I got in. Right now I am in college, and I work in the Summer and Winter.
@tarmus6908 How much are you making at Intertek?
@@isaiahj3968 Part time 27 an hour.
She’s white tho
That's a hindrance these days.
She knew someone. There is no way she landed a tech job with no prior experience or training without having someone put her there
Is this confirmation that I’m about to get this $70k tech job with no degree that I just interviewed for?
Best of luck! Please let us know what happened!!
I applied to work as a doctor at a hospital, why aren’t they calling me back (no degrees btw)
Nobody in tech has cared about degrees for at least two decades unless you apply to a position that does actual research. This is common knowledge.
It’s so many things missing from this clip, what job did you get? What certification did you get?
Exactly she easily could be working for some company that really isn’t going to check on her qualifications even if this did work in IT which it doesn’t you also gotta consider people hire people they want around them and enjoy seeing
Yes, because I'm curious about how frequently Black people experience this.
Box checker.
I was going to comment but the rage built up inside and all I'll say is this: you got lucky.
Bitter
Don’t hate the player, hate the game. That’s why all my bosses have been incompetent d bags, but I’m used to it
You definitely still commented though 😂
Life isn’t an anime, chill out
Yeah but you can't get lucky if you don't try
Same here! 95k for an entry level job. Thank you Hack Reactor!
Wtf where????
Hack reactor? what is that?
@@waltershumer4211 do you have google
Whats your position?
Damn im trying to find something but its nothing but low pay and long ass commutes. Should I just get a loan and go back to school? Nothing seems to be working
Ah the old fake podcast setup. Gives gravitas and credibility to make the viewer believe whatever is being said. Shes not talking to anyone in that room y'all! Lol
Have you seen the kids coming out of Universities these days? I'd hire a degree-free person first most days
Especialy in the USA in some fields if a person has no degree and has experience/portfolio, they can work for less because they dont have to account in for the student loan.
My cousin's first job was a high paying job. She had a GED. What does she do?
She codes. It's something she has taught herself for years. She also went and got a lot of certifications you can easily get online if you put in the work.
She started out modding Minecraft. Now, she makes over $20 an hour and has been self sufficient for years now. She's you get than me by quite a bit. I envy her, but I know it's all about hard work.
As long as you know your stuff and can prove it, go ahead and put in your application. Forget college. Just do it. In the end, they really just wants someone who is confident and has the know-how. Just do it.
20 bucks an hour aint shit.
@@user-sp2yu9zt6hIt is when you're self made, can afford to survive, and are working in a competitive field without the across the board commonly requested prerequisites and add the fact that you are competing with geniuses with degrees.
I full agree with your statement, that you can make a whole lot more in that field, but that is inspirational and I choose to congratulate rather than simply respond with negative sentiment.
Respect to all the self-made people, no matter how high they have risen at this point. Every story is an inspiration to those of us who rebuke the traditional debt slavery intellectual theft and brainwashing system that is the liberal arts system in most countries.
❤
Coding certs aren’t real certs. It’s all based on your portfolio. They have to typically show work they’ve done. Maybe she did that and you don’t mention it but certs are a scam in that field.
If you go to college and you get an degree that is what jobs are looking for most people the go to college end up getting the 200K jobs while people who were self taught doesn’t get paid well
Tell your cousin to go to school online. WGU.
This person just got lucky. This hardly ever happens now
I think these shorts are not accurate. Yea the non-degree thing works for like 20 percent of people. Majority will need education, I tried the non-degree route and it did not work at all.
Nope. Not inaccurate. You get out what you put in. It's not easy, but it's definitely possible. Also, college does not equal education. You can be plenty educated without ever stepping foot on a college campus.
@DegreeFree My comment was focused on the majority population, not a minority. I looked it up about 25% have IT jobs without a degree.
I got the degree lol didn’t want to be stuck in warehouse jobs or dead end jobs for the rest of my life.
@@DegreeFree it is true that even companies like Google and Apple are dropping degree reqs. However, it depends on the job.
If you don’t mind me asking, what is the job? If it’s web dev (especially frontend/marketing) then it makes sense however, working in something like Embedded, OS, Infrastructure, or any AI/ML, those are much less likely to hire without requisite coursework. You still learn on the job, but you need the right background to be able to.
@@mecanuktutorials6476All developers get paid to learn on the job. That’s basically what you’re doing. That said, you can’t get dev job not knowing anything and learn on the job. You need to already be able to write programs and be able to solve data structures & algorithms problems.
I hope she was hired based on talent/skill as opposed to being a DEI/woman check box hire. Not enough info to go off of based on this clip. This experience is rare.
The requirements to apply for a job were written on the offer letter?
Ikr 😂😂
No shes saying in the offer letter she got thats what it said they wanted. She was not that but was still offered the job.
@@matthill2957 I said "the job requirements were on the offer letter" and you said "no, on the offer letter were the job requirements "
@@lukes9192 LOL
This isnt true. They have filters without bachelors degree in your resume you will be put on the bottom of the list of a 100 resumes.
yeah she didn’t realize she is the diverse hiring, you ain’t getting any job without a degree in tech if you are a guy. 😂
I did in 2022, but we dont have communists in our company, we are in eastern europe and we dont do diversity hiring except if government pays heavily, which it doesnt in 99% of the time. We also divided our company into multiple companies to avoid the law for founding unions. 😂 If you want something, you are not a pussycat but you literally walk into the CEO's Office. Which you almost never have to do because managers také good care for the most of the agenda and you literaly talk with the CEO during launch breaks both about things related and not related to the Job.
However american companies in here do have diversity hire programs and oh boy, it shows...
This video told me absolutely nothing about what she did to obtain her position and that pay what a useless video. What’s the point even posting it?
Meanwhile I know people with a BS or MS and 15 years experience that can't get a call back lol.
They must be doing something wrong
Unemployed for a year, and I have two tech degrees. Lol.
One issue is even I do it but shotgunning resumes. It’s so time consuming that shotgunning is easier but if you find jobs that align with your skills tailor it a bit and you get more calls. That being said the application process is trash right now
Nepotism is a lot more prevalent than ppl think.
2 years 6months experience in Computer Technician but no job and it difficult to start up
This is such BS. I've applied for jobs that I did not qualify for, being told that the requirements are just a wish list. Wanna know how many call backs I got from employers? Goose egg. Zero. Zilch. Employers don't give a rat's ass how gung ho you are about being smart and willing to learn the ropes. They don't want to spend as much as they are willing to put down on a new employee. This video is just pure garbage.
Just because it happened to me, it happens to everybody is what I hear from this. Survivorship bias is a thing. If you look at statistics, most places still hire people with degrees and it makes a lot of difference for senior level positions, promotions, raises etc.
Great it worked for her but that’s a dangerous message to send to someone who can completely waste their prime years where they could have studied and got a degree but they didn’t and live to regret it later in life. If you are working in tech, a degree in any tech or stem field will probably help you in some way.
That being said, with how absurd the tuition fees are, I can understand the dilemma many people face when it comes to getting a college degree. I would recommend applying for scholarships and look for work study programs to help you instead of relying too much on predatory student loans. Good luck.
You make good points. However I do think there are a lot of people out there who take loans for overpriced universities, and then don't do internships/part time jobs etc to get experience in undergrad. Then they seem to struggle afterward.
One thing I really appreciated my Uni (no-frills state school) did was to work hard to get people opportunities for internships, work study, part time positions, etc.
The paradox is that you don’t really need a degree to perform in an entry or mid-level role in tech. What matters more than anything is experience.
Getting your foot in the door is easier with a degree, I’m not going to deny it. But it is definitely possible for anyone without a degree to do so. I have done it. It just takes persistence, a good resume, and communication skills. If you knock on enough doors, people will grant you interviews.
With that being said, if you want to get a degree, it is best to first get a job in the field, then work towards a degree online while you are working in said field. That way, once you have completed your degree, you have at least 5 years of real work experience on top of it. As an added bonus, you will take on less student loan debt, or none at all, in order to get your degree.
I take my five month certification program for cyber security by a friend who is teaching a class and he promises that I'm going to get a job that pays $70k--$100k above. Someone I know doesn't have a degree and landed a job that pays $100k because he passed the interview. That's why people shouldn't always rely on a degree. This changes the game, and this changes lives.
For most positions, the education requirements companies post are what they consider to be the ideal candidate. There are a few exceptions of course, such as healthcare and teaching. If you do not meet all of a company's requirements, it never hurts to apply anyway. I was always told to ignore those requirements.
Its wild to see entry-level jobs requiring BS in some niche field with no less than 8 yrs of experience in other technical spaces for $40k a yr. With all of that shit i should have a mid-senior role with no less than $80k a yr. Pfffffff
She said she's "degree-free" like it was a disease. lmaooo
😂
It is if that degree cost you 4 years, 100k in debt and being offering 40k per year on all job interviews which is what's going on now. I would call that a fatal disease. All the majors companies are literally removing degrees off their applications now after they told everyone you need one for decades smh.
😂😂😂
The boss just wanted to beat it up. 😂
I have a degree, Certifications for days and plenty of rejection letters. 6 months looking
14 months searching, with 7 years of experience as a software engineer. 2000 applications, maybe 20-25 call backs, three interviews, no offers.
This field is WAY oversaturated. I swear you could cut the number of engineers in half and it would still be difficult to find a job. I should have gone blue collar
I’m a service manager who knows absolute nothing about cars. I’m great with people and service, but building estimates, ordering parts, all things I do and do well but am clueless. Confidence and hard work builds bridges.
Many of my jobs required a 4year degree. I am a high school dropout
Awesome! What do you do now? And what were some of the other jobs you had?
Most employers will hire someone who meets at least 50% of the “requirements” in a job listing. A degree has a weight of maybe 10%.
So if im asked if i have a Bachelor's degree, i send them a copy of my divorce degree that im now a bachelor would that get me the job?
I have a red seal, I worked 5400 hours for it, it's gotten me no where and my job market is so desperate for staff that no one cares.
I had no idea what a red seal was. Can you get that in a bunch of different things?
@@DegreeFree Any Trade profession in Canada. From Electrician to Fridge Tech.
That's called being a DEI hire. I have some females in my department who have a very low understanding of the job but since they always laugh at the boss's jokes and stay up his ass all the time, you would think they are the top performers.
The only reason I got a degree is because the Air Force paid for it for me to become a 2 Lt. Otherwise I never would have went to college.
Me: Cs degree, bootcamp, speak 2 languages and like 5 years of experience in customer service, plus 1 year in helpdesk.
- Not a single call
"I have no anything from a college."
Just like what a typical degree free person would say.
You’re gonna get called back a lot more than boys😂
fr some people be looking like orcs in the IT arena
@@derickduy2101hahaha 😂
You being black and saying this is insane
Maybe you’re just not qualified
This is nonsense to plug bootcamps that only teach you frameworks rendering you essentially useless. These are the jobs Ai can and will take. A true computer scientist will not be replaced.
"You don't have to listen to that" and "you'll be called back more often than you realize" is just lying to yourself.
Depends heavily on the carreer field. Always listen to the market and tune your skills accordingly
Nope don’t do this if you don’t have connections. They take less than 30 secs to review a resume and if the recruiter doesn’t see a degree they won’t even care to consider you. This works when the actual manager does the recruitment but in many cases they hire someone else to do it.
Sometimes a certification could be the equivalent plus the years of experience; but to get into certain kinds of senior management roles in tech, a advance degree is needed.
Im sure being cute helps.
Gotta get a degree in FU University
She’s preaching like this is the norm when in fact she is 100% an anomaly. If you gamble there’s a chance you will win. She got lucky. And she’s boasting about it on here, like we get it, you got a tech job without a degree. No need to repeat yourself. If you genuinely want to strengthen your odds of landing a job, you should get a degree. You will get multiple job offers and be able to negotiate your salary. Also, you will get to a point in your career where you can only advance with a degree. She may have gotten lucky this time, but even with the experience, there will be a point where she hits a roadblock because the company she wants to work for will seriously require a degree and actually enforce the requirement.
My degree is completely unrelated to the work I do but all they care about is that I have one. Make it make sense.
Can’t wait for the human collective to realize this! - Corporate Recruiter
Honestly that’s crazy. I’m happy for you but I hope I can get luck like that but I’m almost 30 this year and the only jobs I can get are physical labor jobs that nobody wants to do in a desert that use to pay well but anymore. She makes 20k more than me.
That pisses me off that someone without a college degree can get a job that typically requires a degree. It makes me who went through college and busted my ass to graduate feel completely worthless.
Tech has always been this way, it isn’t new
Whether it's new or not it's irrelevant to whether it's fair or not
Get use to it. Google, Wal Mart and alot of the big companies announce by the end of 2024 their removing degree requirements off their application all together smh.
@@shawnmercado2219 But if they have the skills and work experience why shouldn't they get hired? The companies started asking for university degrees for jobs that really don't require them. Most jobs don't require a bachelors degree to do the job based on the skill set.
@@melissagreye8445 It's a complex question, but one of the main arguments for having a higher barrier to entry in the form of degree or certificate requirements, is that, while not perfect, at least they are objective standards. In general, companies don't have a good way to gauge how well a person will perform on the job. Interviews are pretty famously bad at this, no matter how long and arduous you make the process.
As such, employers will tend to operate based mostly on feeling and impression. The whole process becomes more about things like:
- ability to network
- ability to *sell yourself*
- general likeability and personality
In other words, they're basing hiring decisions mostly on things that don't have much to do with how well the candidate will perform on the job.
In the worst case, this opens up the market to "crackers" (e.g., "how to crack the coding interview", not the racial epithet) and straight up fraudsters. Even in the best case, basing hiring decisions on factors like networking is, by definition, cronyism. But the thing is it's necessary in a system without objective standards because there are so few ways to add any confidence or verification to a candidate's claimed acumen other than referral.
Stop the bs I have 2 degrees and in my third year of the PhD in the analytics and I don’t have a call back since 2023
College life is not just about degree , it’s about experience, meeting new people,making new friends , learning how to talk and socialise with other people, taking risk , learning to work together and most importantly creating some great memories.
at an average cost of $100,000?
You can do that without a 100k piece of paper. I don’t have any friends from college I speak to besides the one who ironically dropped out and is more successful than any of us.
With my cyber security degree I make 120k right out of school though
"I am degree free", the raddest statement I've ever heard
Lol I laughed
Sounded an oddly cool word than saying i dont have a degree though because it doesn't talk about what you don't have, but it reminds me of what you're free of which is usually an education loan that you'll have to pay off after the degree. & While you're also job free you can still get the job,have the time to learn to do a business etc (given that You're not being pressured about getting the job & have family for initial support).
Lol.. yeah right. We all know why she got hired and it has nothing to do with degrees or certifications
Degree = Knowledge / Certification = Practice (For the most part)
My old roommate got a computer science degree and his first job paid him $95,000 a year. It was pretty remarkable.
Wow
This shit ain’t fair at all.
Life isn’t fair step up your game
@@mikem2022nah it’s not about life being fair. It’s about certain people getting certain privileges that most don’t or can’t get. If it was this easy, most people wouldn’t be struggling. It’s literally all a lie.
@@JT-tx2ns let me guess you’re gonna claim your oppressed too?
Whats not fair is having to waste 4 years of your life and get into thousands of dollars worth of debt just to get a job that you can do without a degree in the first place.
The only thing were it stops you is as you advance. NO yoh do not need a degree technically to get a job but as you advance to higher levels in and organization a degree will set you apart from those who do not… I PROMISE you I got my computer science degree in 1999… most execs have advanced degrees it’s just his corporate works … maybe not at some startups. But you NEED some formal training YES education cost. Do you want your surgeon talking about yea I watched tv and enough UA-cam videos to learn or your car/plane tech to say that?? KNOCK IT OFF now you can go to school half the cost stop being lazy. I went to college with a baby and now have three degrees if you want it go get it it!! Biggest lies are the lies you tell yourself!!
Not everyone wants to be a high level exec
She clearly doesn’t have a husband
Doesn't she look like JustPearlyThings lmao
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But this lady is way more better than that bigot.
Do you think people with the degree feel like you have stolen a job from them?
I got a $120K/yr data analyst position, no degrees, minimal experience, been there 5 years now and make much more than when I started.
@@Loner-DestroyedWoman I applied to the job.
C'mon, tell the truth. Bet you knew someone that worked there and they referred you. Easy in. There's zero chance you applied along with thousands of other people and got picked over someone with a degree and work experience.
@@UrAJok3r You think thousands of people apply to every job? Interesting...
@@Knight3434 yeah they do lmao. It legit says on LinkedIn how many people apply. You're silly AF lololol!!
@@UrAJok3r you think LinkedIn is the only place to apply for jobs? Interesting…
She met the DEI requirement
Affirmative action hire
Because you’re a woman. There’s a hiring quota
Exactly.
Women aren’t giving special treatment in the work force. If anything, it’s the other way around. Go sit down somewhere
Males are so delusional and liars. Men have more privileges in tech stfu
@@iammar1159 maybe not in the work force but in the bed force lol
Eww... relationships and a family? What the hell is that??
Nowadays you just have to say you're some weird protected class and bam your hired
Doesn't seem to work in all cases.
There's a old saying "it's who you blow and not what you know"