Schwalbe Jumbo Jim “Jack of all terrains, master of none” (Fat bike tire review)

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  • @jimmansi1187
    @jimmansi1187 2 роки тому +3

    I use the Bontrager XR2’s on my Trek Stache 29 Plus bike & they have a very similar tread pattern & I agree with all your points. They’re awesome tires in all conditions, would like a little more bite in the snow but they’re manageable. You get amazing grip in normal conditions & can really rail & lean the bike over with confidence, I tell everyone how good these tires are. I just purchased a full suspension & am loving the Cush, Fat Bike is next on my wish list, can’t wait to get one!

    • @TrailSage
      @TrailSage  2 роки тому +1

      That Stache you have is a killer bike Jim. I can't wait to see you on the full squish. What fat bike are you considering getting?

    • @jimmansi1187
      @jimmansi1187 2 роки тому +2

      @@TrailSage I get a nice discount on Treks at my LBS, I’m torn between the Farley 9.6 & Farley 7. The 7 has front suspension & looks perfect out of the box but it’s 35 lbs, $3,400. the 9.6 is only 28 lbs but rigid, a Lauf fork would be bad ass but I’d be spending well over $5,000 again. I love high end bikes but is it necessary for a fat bike? Is front suspension necessary? Give me your honest opinion, also what brand Fatty do you like, I don’t have to go with Trek

    • @TrailSage
      @TrailSage  2 роки тому +1

      @@jimmansi1187 Front suspension is a game changer Jim, I would not get a fat bike without one. I don't know much about the Farley, but I LOVE my Carver Carbo'Beast. Full carbon frame and fairly inexpensive. Maybe you could build one up? I paired mine with those Nextie Carbon rims and got my bike around 29 lbs.

  • @markg99
    @markg99 2 роки тому +11

    This review was so good I just ordered a set of these tyres, and I don't even have a bike! 😁👍🏻

    • @TrailSage
      @TrailSage  2 роки тому +3

      lol! Thanks Mark. I love riding my fatty and I hope to get more folks into it.

  • @IVANMTB
    @IVANMTB 2 роки тому +2

    Hi friend! nice video and thanks for sharing!! greetings😜 #ivan_mtb

  • @speed2live
    @speed2live 2 місяці тому +1

    I have these on my Salsa Bucksaw where they see mostly bike park trails. I run them with tubes. They grip quite well. I pretend I'm driving a tank cycle.😊

    • @TrailSage
      @TrailSage  2 місяці тому

      "Tank Cycle" I love that! Bike park trails sounds fun. Thanks for watching and commenting. Sage

  • @ryandifford6832
    @ryandifford6832 Рік тому +1

    Hey Sage, just found your channel and loving the content. Total newbie to the world of fatbike although not to trails. What are your thoughts on the JJ for sand? I have a multi day desert crossing in Feb and the fatbike I am using comes with Vee Snow Avalanche which I understand will be far too aggressive for the soft stuff. JJ keeps coming up as a go to option (and seemingly cheap here in the UK at the mo!). Any insight greatly appreciated, keep shredding man.

    • @TrailSage
      @TrailSage  Рік тому

      Hey Ryan, I wish I could give you better advice, but I have no idea how they would preform in that kind of setting. They do come in a wider option so if you think that would help more I would certainly give them a shot. Also thank you for the kind words!

  • @TommiHonkonen
    @TommiHonkonen 2 місяці тому +1

    thinner rubber is good because less rubber makes it feel better

    • @TrailSage
      @TrailSage  2 місяці тому

      Interesting, I had not thought about it that way Tommi. Thanks for the feedback. Sage

  • @jimnesia1824
    @jimnesia1824 2 місяці тому +1

    Great review, I’ve been running JJs for about 10 years and ride mainly sand dunes and beach and singletrack. They’re great in the summertime but they are treacherous in the winter on anything wet, muddy, greasy or slippy especially rock and roots and they’ve nearly killed me.
    They are great except for those winter conditions where I run a surly Edna on the front end and a jumbo on the rear as long as it’s not muddy

    • @TrailSage
      @TrailSage  2 місяці тому +1

      Right on! And yes, I would agree, the JJs are not that great in thick snow or muddy conditions. They are more of a all-around good fat bike tire. Thank you for the feedback and comment. Sage

    • @jimnesia1824
      @jimnesia1824 2 місяці тому

      @@TrailSage totally 👍🏻🚵‍♂️

  • @BIIIKES
    @BIIIKES Рік тому +1

    Hey Sage! I've got a New Bike Day (fat bike edition) coming tomorrow. Of course I'm doing the deep dive 😋 Still recommend these tires?

    • @TrailSage
      @TrailSage  Рік тому +1

      Absolutely Todd. I just rode the fatty yesterday at Mt Penn. They are great for riding all year round. The only issue is with deep snow, the lugs are just not robust enough.

    • @BIIIKES
      @BIIIKES Рік тому +1

      ​@@TrailSage Sweet! I shouldn't have that problem down here in DE. Light snow cover (if we ever get any again), or just something different. Thanks dude.

  • @ckMTB
    @ckMTB 2 роки тому +2

    Great video Sage. I definitely have to try a fat bike one day.
    I thought I couldn't see properly.
    What are you doing with shorts in the snow😃?! Great work as always my friend.
    Take care and have a good time. Ride on

    • @TrailSage
      @TrailSage  2 роки тому +1

      Thanks Christoph. I always wear shorts for both my riding and running. The key is to never stop long enough to get cold, lol.

  • @dragrace1989
    @dragrace1989 2 роки тому +1

    I wish they made these in 27.5 fat

    • @TrailSage
      @TrailSage  2 роки тому

      I don't know much about the other tires Schwalbe has but they have quite the line up. Maybe they have something similar in a 27.5

  • @zenofthemoment
    @zenofthemoment Рік тому +1

    Curious how these compare to 45NRTH Husker Dus, 4.8 to 4.8.

    • @TrailSage
      @TrailSage  Рік тому +1

      Great question, I have run both the Husker and Vanhelga by 45NRTH. I would say it the JJs offer the same amount of traction at the Husker, but they are way lighter. Hope that helps.

    • @zenofthemoment
      @zenofthemoment Рік тому +1

      @@TrailSage It does help, but now I’m mad at myself for ordering the Huskers based solely on the tread pattern, and not doing my due diligence first. 🤦🏻‍♂️🤣
      Problem is that my wife’s 4.4 JJs are just okay imo, and I have one 4.8 JJ that I didn’t really love, so maybe it’s okay to just try something else. Either one has to be better than my Bud & Lou on everything other than snow. Anyway….
      Thank you for your thoughts. You’re awesome! 🫡

    • @TrailSage
      @TrailSage  Рік тому +1

      @@zenofthemoment I hear ya, it's hard finding a good fat bike tire especially since shops don't normally stock them. If you are looking for more tread and you don't mind the weight the Vanhelga is a more aggressive tire. Thank you for the kind words BTW

  • @farhanvamp
    @farhanvamp 2 роки тому +1

    Can a 4.0 fit a 100mm rim?

    • @TrailSage
      @TrailSage  2 роки тому

      Good question Timmy, to be honest I am not sure. I would assume so, but you may want to check with your local bike shop.

  • @FoCoFlowShow
    @FoCoFlowShow 2 роки тому +1

    The Fat Bike is the most versatile bike in the industry … #thereIsaidit. 🤣. I love my Cannondale FatCAAD and run the same tires 👊👊👊

    • @TrailSage
      @TrailSage  2 роки тому +1

      I am surprised to hear you say it, but they are pretty awesome! Thanks for watching Forrest.

  • @MihaiGoRunning
    @MihaiGoRunning 2 роки тому +1

    Hehe, great comercial 😁 didn't know what's those coloured lines are. Smashed the like button and fully watched with great appreciation, Sage! Great bloopers like always! 🤭

    • @TrailSage
      @TrailSage  2 роки тому

      I wish it was a commercial, then I could get paid, lol. Thanks for watching Mihai

  • @Bikepacking
    @Bikepacking Рік тому +1

    Good info

  • @huongtoituonglai24
    @huongtoituonglai24 2 роки тому +1

    Mashallah amazing video 📹 it's very beautiful my friend stay connected 🍧🍧

    • @TrailSage
      @TrailSage  2 роки тому

      Thank you for watching!

  • @gabrielcorpuz2022
    @gabrielcorpuz2022 Рік тому +1

    Awesome channel sir! New subscriber here, watching from Dubai. I’m using these tires on my fatboy SE. Super great review! 🤙🏽💪🏽

    • @TrailSage
      @TrailSage  Рік тому

      Welcome Gabriel! Thank you so much for the kind words and encouragement.

  • @CorreteandolaCheve
    @CorreteandolaCheve 2 роки тому +1

    ufff it looks amazing.. and it can handle the snow well too

    • @TrailSage
      @TrailSage  2 роки тому

      It can handle snow but that is probably where the tire struggles most.

  • @movemorenowjames
    @movemorenowjames 2 роки тому +1

    Love the name ! … great details, I would not mind getting hold of a fat bike , looks great. Do you wear cleats still ?

    • @TrailSage
      @TrailSage  2 роки тому

      Thanks James. You would love fat biking, they are so much fun and can handle any terrain. And yes, I run clips on all my bikes. Really helps in the snow when you have to pull up on the pedals to get traction.

  • @KirstenQuickFit
    @KirstenQuickFit 2 роки тому +1

    Super interesting!! Great info on this tire! Love the bike riding shots!! So cool! Really great review Sage! Awesome fun bloopers at the end!!! 💯💯

    • @TrailSage
      @TrailSage  2 роки тому

      Hey thanks Kirsten, fat biking is so much fun. You can’t help but to feel like a kid again when u ride one.

  • @cpantera2769
    @cpantera2769 2 роки тому +1

    Could you please ask them to make a 27.5 JJ?

    • @TrailSage
      @TrailSage  2 роки тому +1

      I wish I had that kind of clout. I don't have any relationship/partnership with Schwalbe, these tires were bought with my own money (not sent to me). Thanks for watching though.

    • @cpantera2769
      @cpantera2769 Рік тому +1

      @@TrailSage I pester them via email, messenger, facebook ect ect a few times a year. I want to buy carbon wheels for my 27.5 fatty but without Jumbo Jims, no way!

    • @TrailSage
      @TrailSage  Рік тому

      @@cpantera2769 I feel your pain. Big companies tend to ignore little guys like us. If I find a similar tire in 27.5 plus I'll let you know.

  • @TheDeterminedRunner
    @TheDeterminedRunner 2 роки тому +1

    I know bugger all about tyres but it sounds like you are Mr Tyre Sage, great job with the review 👍

    • @TrailSage
      @TrailSage  2 роки тому +1

      I would love to be Mr Tyre but I would need some Tyre companies to send me some samples to test. I think I am far from catching their eyes but that opportunity would be awesome. Thx for watching Martin

  • @NomadTerraCrawlers
    @NomadTerraCrawlers 2 роки тому +1

    This is a spectacular review. I've been contemplating whether to get fat tires. Just have to get good deals here.

    • @TrailSage
      @TrailSage  2 роки тому

      Fat bikes are so much fun Simon you won't regret it. Thanks for watching.

  • @Runnerrwe
    @Runnerrwe 2 роки тому +1

    Great review. I want to ride one some time. They look fun. Do you use special tire irons for this type of tire? It looks like it would break a normal tire iron.

    • @TrailSage
      @TrailSage  2 роки тому

      Thanks Richard, they are def a lot of fun. They are pretty easy to remove, the hard thing is getting them to seat (tubeless).

  • @kramonut
    @kramonut 2 роки тому +1

    Fat bikes are so cool...I don't have one, but have ridden with guys on them & threw my leg over a couple; very fun & they have such a cool sound on the trail.

    • @TrailSage
      @TrailSage  2 роки тому

      You know I've never thought about the sound, but you are right. Thanks for watching Mark.

  • @sshouser31
    @sshouser31 2 роки тому +1

    Awesome channel! New subscriber! Keep up the good work!

  • @atravellersjourney
    @atravellersjourney 2 роки тому +1

    very interesting video, thank you for sharing this, stay safe always

    • @TrailSage
      @TrailSage  2 роки тому

      Thank you so much for watching!

  • @DaniellaJoyFitness
    @DaniellaJoyFitness 2 роки тому +1

    Wow! First off the production/editing is immaculate! This really made me want to go out and purchase a fat bike right now and practice some trails! Fat bikes are every where here in Albert. Great Review Sage!

    • @DaniellaJoyFitness
      @DaniellaJoyFitness 2 роки тому +1

      😅 the bloopers are epic lol

    • @TrailSage
      @TrailSage  2 роки тому

      Thank you Daniella! You would love fat biking, you can’t help but to smile when u ride one.

  • @GillFisherRunningMySpace
    @GillFisherRunningMySpace 2 роки тому +1

    Great review Sage! Always love watching you on the trails and so cool to see you on snow! The tread is very similar to my trail shoes with that little slice in the middle of each nub. Would the snow fat tire have to be spiked to be efficient?

    • @TrailSage
      @TrailSage  2 роки тому +1

      Thanks Gill, and great question. No, you only need spiked tires for icy or hard packed snow. Most of the time your standard fat tire would be fine.

  • @Kelly_Ben
    @Kelly_Ben 2 роки тому +1

    I've always been so curious about Fat Bikes. I'm going to have to rent one. Great review!

    • @TrailSage
      @TrailSage  2 роки тому +1

      There is one unavoidable side effect to riding fat bikes Kelly... smiling. Thanks for watching.

  • @Bikepacking
    @Bikepacking 7 місяців тому +1

    14 year riding fatbike wont ride anything else

    • @TrailSage
      @TrailSage  7 місяців тому

      Right on Mark! What kind of fat bike do you ride?

    • @Bikepacking
      @Bikepacking 7 місяців тому +2

      @@TrailSage first one was the worldest lightest fatbike by lamere full carbon 8.9kgs the second one is custom self build bamboo aluminum frame with carbon wheels love it i explore the trails in Vietnam Ho Chi Minh trail

    • @Bikepacking
      @Bikepacking 7 місяців тому +1

      @@TrailSage the only thing i dont like about my new build is the tires before use 45nrth fast light but got max is tire this time arround feel they dont roll so fast so will which them out

    • @TrailSage
      @TrailSage  7 місяців тому

      @@Bikepacking Yeah I used to run the 45nrth before switching to these Jumbo Jims. Good stuff Mark!

    • @Bikepacking
      @Bikepacking 7 місяців тому +1

      @@TrailSage are they faster

  • @UltraTrailSteven
    @UltraTrailSteven 2 роки тому +1

    That’s a big tire; funny name too! Love the shirt! It looks great on you! Man I bet riding in the snow takes a lot more leg strength.

    • @UltraTrailSteven
      @UltraTrailSteven 2 роки тому +1

      Love the bloopers!

    • @TrailSage
      @TrailSage  2 роки тому +1

      Thanks man, I love the shirt. Regarding snow riding, it is so exhausting compared to normal conditions.

    • @UltraTrailSteven
      @UltraTrailSteven 2 роки тому +1

      @@TrailSage probably similar to running in the snow or sand versus road.

    • @TrailSage
      @TrailSage  2 роки тому +1

      @@UltraTrailSteven Yeah, exactly. Stability is a little more difficult on a bike though, requires a tad more focus to stay upright, lol.

    • @UltraTrailSteven
      @UltraTrailSteven 2 роки тому +1

      @@TrailSage 😂 I’m sure!

  • @TextieruL
    @TextieruL 2 роки тому +1

    Jumbo Jim are the best. I was so slow with the normal tires from my fat bike, but when I put the Schwalbe Jumbo Jim on it, WOW. I can reach 45 even 50 km/h on the streets with my non electric fat bike. Awesome....

    • @TrailSage
      @TrailSage  2 роки тому

      They really are a great all-around fat bike tire. Thank you for watching and commenting!

    • @TextieruL
      @TextieruL 2 роки тому

      @@TrailSage pleasure is mine. Btw, they make such a loud noise on the streets. 🚴‍♂️😁

  • @TrailTales
    @TrailTales 2 роки тому +1

    NIce work mate... Really well put together and presented!

    • @TrailSage
      @TrailSage  2 роки тому

      Thank you so much! Cheers

  • @SafeMotions
    @SafeMotions 2 роки тому +1

    Nice on Sage! Good to have some minions on your side too...

  • @schadlarry
    @schadlarry 2 роки тому +1

    I’m considering building up a “lightweight” Ice Cream Truck for year round non-snow riding. My concern is the tpi of 127 of these tires. I tried 120 tpi Maxxis tires and got more punctures on AZ and NM trails. With 60 tpi I’ve never flatted over many 1000’s of miles.

    • @TrailSage
      @TrailSage  2 роки тому

      I hear ya Larry. Without knowing where or how you ride it's hard for me to advise you. They are def one of the lightest tires on the market though, and they haven't flatted that much for me, and my terrain is pretty chunky here on the east coast.
      If you want to know where I ride check out some of my "Just Ride" POV videos. That may give you an idea for the kind of abuse I put my bikes/tires through.

    • @schadlarry
      @schadlarry 2 роки тому +1

      @@TrailSage Thanks for the quick response. I saw you road the 50 year trail which is what I cut my teeth on 25 years ago. I’m just an XC rider, nothing crazy, no air, but the rocks can be unforgiving at times. I was surprised on how some of the “pointy” rocks could cause a puncture. But never a problem with 60 tpi. I don’t even carry a spare tube anymore but got to love the weight of those JJ’s.

    • @TrailSage
      @TrailSage  2 роки тому

      @@schadlarry Yeah, you have some sharp rocks in AZ! I would hate for you to make an investment on the JJ only to have it flat. I will say, I have had really good luck with the Stans DART. I still carry a light weight tube, but the DART has saved me every time. Let me know what you decide Larry.

  • @bimmerfan729
    @bimmerfan729 2 роки тому +1

    How do you find the snow performance of the JJ's?

    • @TrailSage
      @TrailSage  2 роки тому

      Hey Bobby, if you let some pressure out the JJ will be fine, but if you ride primarily in deep snow I would opt for a tire with bigger lugs.

  • @jackrabbit0777
    @jackrabbit0777 Рік тому +1

    Agreed, I’ve used a pair of these for like 5 years in all conditions. They perform exactly as you said. I just got a pair of 4.8 - because it’s been impossible to fin 26” tires at least here in Canada. It’s like 27.5 took over, and e-bike low treads seem to be all there is. I just got lucky, a guy sold me his which he swapped out immediately when he bought his bike. Any suggestions where to buy a set?

    • @TrailSage
      @TrailSage  Рік тому

      Right on Marc. How do you like the 4.8s? As for where to buy, I usually just purchase directly from Schwalbe. But I'm sure there are better deals out there, especially with the holidays coming up.

    • @jackrabbit0777
      @jackrabbit0777 Рік тому +1

      @@TrailSage I literally put them on my bike yesterday. I used to ride the snow, but I’m too busy skiing now, and will wait till next summer. Schwalbe is sold out of all sizes of Jumbo Jim’s according to the website. Maybe because we are now entering winter? Long story short story used to commute to work mostly all trail… but that bit of salt I did hit destroyed my brakes, and a hub. Then I had bad luck with my aluminum Norco Sight frame (a defect, but beyond the warranty), so transferred all the components from the Norco to my Felt Fat bike, and had a TON of fun in the summer. I don’t think I’ll ever go back to a regular mountain bike again. So much simpler to maintain, and fun! I’m not “sending it” on crazy mostly flowy single track, and a bit of chunky, but nothing extreme. So I think the 4.8 with a higher pressure should be fun.

    • @TrailSage
      @TrailSage  Рік тому

      @@jackrabbit0777 I love it! Not the product being sold out part, lol. I love that you are riding this all year round. I wish more folks could find the joy of fat biking (not just on snow). Thanks for commenting brotha!

  • @splooshmtb
    @splooshmtb 2 роки тому +1

    Shorts in the snow, Sage?! You madman!

    • @TrailSage
      @TrailSage  2 роки тому +1

      Always shorts Zane. The only exception I make is a windy road ride below 20 degrees, lol.

  • @ZRMTB
    @ZRMTB 2 роки тому +1

    I have never ridden a fat bike and don’t really have a desire to. But maybe one day I’ll ride a borrowed one and see if I like it. But as always great review Sage! This tire sounds like it would be a great option!

    • @TrailSage
      @TrailSage  2 роки тому

      I don't know how tall you are, but you are welcome to try mine if you want Omar. I have to warn you though... you may fall in love, lol. Thanks for watching brotha.

    • @ZRMTB
      @ZRMTB 2 роки тому +1

      @@TrailSage I’m 5’ 8”. Ride a medium frame. Might have to take you up on the offer lol. Hey I might as I would rather be out riding on any type of mountain bike over sitting around at home when the trails are snow covered.

    • @TrailSage
      @TrailSage  2 роки тому +1

      @@ZRMTB Dude we are the same height. If you ride SPD clips we are in business.

  • @RunSensible
    @RunSensible 2 роки тому +1

    Rippin' it up in the snow. 👌

  • @jeffwatson9890
    @jeffwatson9890 2 роки тому +1

    I've been running JJ's for a couple years now and love them. I'm not saying they're the best fat tire out there but I stopped looking after I tried them. From dry summer conditions to packed snow I haven't found anything that I like better. Once you find the sweet spot for your tire pressures they roll great, grip like mad and don't self steer at all. I use the Snakeskin version for extra puncture protection on janky trails.

    • @TrailSage
      @TrailSage  2 роки тому +1

      Nice, I feel the same way Jeff. The only tire I liked better was the 45nrth Van Helga, but they stopped making them in a 4.0 so I made the switch. Thanks for watching brotha.

    • @jeffwatson9890
      @jeffwatson9890 2 роки тому +1

      @@TrailSage Yeah the VH is a great tire too. I heard about your channel on the Jeff Lenosky Holbert Trail video & checked you out since he mentioned you're an east coast guy. I did my first ever MTB ride at the Frederick Watershed 14 yrs ago so it was cool to see that on your video. You did a good job of capturing how challenging the riding is there. It doesn't always come through on video. I used to ride Michaux a lot too before moving near Pittsburgh. There's good riding here but you have to drive a bit to find chunk.

    • @TrailSage
      @TrailSage  2 роки тому

      @@jeffwatson9890 That's awesome Jeff, thanks for stopping by. Meeting Jeff was a cool experience. I'll have that video up at some point as well. As far as Pitt, I have heard some good things about that area as well. I have family in New Kensington so I hope to make it out there at some point.

    • @keyno1212
      @keyno1212 2 роки тому +1

      whats your sweet spot for psi?

    • @jeffwatson9890
      @jeffwatson9890 2 роки тому

      @@keyno1212 I weigh about 215 geared up on a Surly Wednesday, 26x4.4 on 80mm rim. To figure out my pressures, I started with both at about 10 PSI, then just let a little bit of air out at a time until they stopped feeling bouncy but also weren't rolling over in the corners. On dirt and packed snow I like 5.5 psi in front, 7.5 in back. On softer snow I'll let air out until the sidewalls start to wrinkle.

  • @mtbville
    @mtbville 2 роки тому +1

    Great video 👍