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  • Top 5 STRONGEST Punishing Gray Raven Characters Lore wise
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  • @midnight-blade9413
    @midnight-blade9413 Рік тому +1373

    Jokes aside we all know Celica is the strongest

  • @mosengteroosss5485
    @mosengteroosss5485 Рік тому +421

    Shit went from "Hello your computer has viruz" to a litteral Higher being come to earth and a man who can call his other self to fight along him

    • @Ayumu31
      @Ayumu31 5 місяців тому +9

      Yea that pretty much sums up pgr

  • @elias4472
    @elias4472 Рік тому +812

    These are mine according to the lore:
    #1. The Player's Will to skip 3 patches to save for a construct and sig weapon.
    #2. The Player's mind while playing Norman.
    #3. The Player's restraint to not say "uooooogghhh" and "seggs brutal".
    #4. The Player's neuron activation whenever they see their favorite construct.
    #5. Merciful One

    • @trendmadegamer8725
      @trendmadegamer8725 Рік тому +82

      Aka 1-4 is Coommandment fighting in his dream, in his own dimension to fight the horny

    • @elias4472
      @elias4472 Рік тому +62

      @@trendmadegamer8725 so canonically, the coomandant is the strongest in PGR.

    • @quasogod
      @quasogod Рік тому +11

      The first one is relatable, currently saving my ass for Balter

    • @Felontich
      @Felontich Рік тому

      So true

    • @satoruneko5335
      @satoruneko5335 Рік тому +1

      I can do no.1 perfectly well. As a pure F2p I have to save for characters lol

  • @zefanyalt5944
    @zefanyalt5944 Рік тому +222

    deep blue warzone terrapod are the true ultimate pain cage lmao

  • @AstolfoGaming69
    @AstolfoGaming69 Рік тому +114

    Terrapod: "Pathethic..."

  • @DKlipz
    @DKlipz Рік тому +51

    Buffed musashi sword knock smirks in the corner

  • @wizzy7755
    @wizzy7755 Рік тому +336

    Lee inside the tower is considered the strongest construct that babylonia has ever created and one of the strongest beings in the main PGR tiemline and belongs to the top 3. It was also mentioned that hyperreal frame can still improve meaning that lee can user super position outside the tower in the near future
    Edit: Why would you say that liv is as strong as hyperreal? Sure the hyperreal frame was based from liv's empyrea frame but hyperreal's powers and abilities destroys everyone except for the merciful one.
    You do realize that official translations from CN to Eng provided by bilibili which was posted by huda nikki confirmed that lee is the peak of humanity and with time, he can be compared to a god?

    • @Soria00
      @Soria00 Рік тому +3

      cope more

    • @wizzy7755
      @wizzy7755 Рік тому

      ​​​@@Soria00 Its true. Lee hyperreal beats crimson weaver at their highest feats and settings. The only time crimson weaver beats hyperreal is if she fully utilizes the ascnet as she is more worthy than luna so shut the fck up n*gga

    • @wizzy7755
      @wizzy7755 Рік тому

      ​@@Soria00 Cry harder n*gga

    • @Username-qu1jt
      @Username-qu1jt Рік тому +55

      ​@@Soria00 Read more?

    • @wizzy7755
      @wizzy7755 Рік тому

      @Lee 07 Yeah just cry harder incel

  • @oreoo2828
    @oreoo2828 Рік тому +65

    My Opinion:
    1. Merciful
    2. Lee/Von
    3. Alpha/Von
    4. Luna
    5. Liv

    • @mythos5276
      @mythos5276 Рік тому +24

      Mine:
      1.) Merciful One
      2.) Von
      3.) Lee/Alpha
      4.) Luna
      5.) Balter
      (Didn't mention Liv because she's not really suited for combat and her frame is really unstable)

    • @oreoo2828
      @oreoo2828 Рік тому

      @@mythos5276 Understandable, i pick liv cause she's on the frame, and not balter 😅

    • @Hoshikagayakikun
      @Hoshikagayakikun Рік тому +9

      HELP EVERYONE IS FORGETTING ABOUT NOANS FRAME..💀

    • @siapaya711
      @siapaya711 Рік тому

      @@Hoshikagayakikun Wait, is he strong? I thought he is just normal soldier

    • @Hoshikagayakikun
      @Hoshikagayakikun Рік тому

      @@siapaya711 he can purify The virus without any problems.

  • @DifféranceHorizon
    @DifféranceHorizon Рік тому +258

    How is Lee not automatically 2nd by default? Man I'm a huge Alpha simp but even I can agree that Alpha in current story even with CW stands no chance against Hyperreal. I get it's a temporary powerup but there's literally no way Luna, Vonnegut & Alpha are beating Lee which can jump through dimensions and have different versions of himself from other worldlines help him fight. Hell, even put together I don't see how they even manage to permanently beat Lee just because of his hax

    • @yaqinmalul6467
      @yaqinmalul6467 Рік тому +8

      fax

    • @fajnu20
      @fajnu20 Рік тому +15

      Nah, alpha is the strongest in the game. She will simply stop time and cut him in thousand of pieces xd

    • @DifféranceHorizon
      @DifféranceHorizon Рік тому +108

      @@fajnu20 Are you slow? Hyperreal literally has complete control over time & space and even if she did hypothetically do that to him another Lee would just take his place there is no killing Hyperreal Lee unless you sit there and kill every single Lee from an infinite number of parallel timelines and Alpha lacks the ability to do that since even the Merciful One couldn't accomplish such a feat

    • @fajnu20
      @fajnu20 Рік тому +8

      @@DifféranceHorizon where's your motivation?

    • @DifféranceHorizon
      @DifféranceHorizon Рік тому +66

      @@fajnu20 I lost it after figuring out that Alpha's actually slower with the CW frame and seeing how Lee's the one laughing now that he's the true fire god he clearly took that time Alpha ignored his shots in chapter 1 very personally man 😪

  • @lunarei5896
    @lunarei5896 6 місяців тому +21

    everyone gangsta until Liv whip out her domain expansion

    • @belial4327
      @belial4327 5 місяців тому +2

      Then alpha just cuts through dimensions... 😢 There is a reason she calls herself alpha i guess

    • @nz1312
      @nz1312 5 місяців тому +8

      "what dimension?" - Lee Hyperreal
      hes litterly created whole new space and timeline jesus

    • @Gtwwalk
      @Gtwwalk 25 днів тому

      ​@@nz1312no lee is not creating a dimension, Lee's weapon is actually capable of breaking the Matrix, so he can stop the time one more time!😅😅😅

    • @Gtwwalk
      @Gtwwalk 25 днів тому

      Fun fact--- when lee breaks the matrix you don't even have to move, he can dodge every attack by himself😂😂😂😂

  • @nateklempner561
    @nateklempner561 Рік тому +22

    All things considered, I still can't wait for Ishmael/Merciful One to become playable.

  • @kongousal9914
    @kongousal9914 Рік тому +171

    Me beating mercifull one with changwho : 🗿

    • @somahalder1264
      @somahalder1264 Рік тому +16

      R U a God?!

    • @user-bw2gz6ge6n
      @user-bw2gz6ge6n Рік тому +18

      Bro mastered the feet and fist technique

    • @eager5334
      @eager5334 11 місяців тому +2

      I beat merciful one with lotus lucia🗿

    • @sonarsonar7676
      @sonarsonar7676 11 місяців тому

      ​@@eager5334WHAT

    • @artistahmed866
      @artistahmed866 10 місяців тому

      You just beat her 10% power of her clone bro 🗿

  • @y.s8211
    @y.s8211 Рік тому +249

    Lee is minimum top 3 because he's now fully immune to virus and he's only one from humanity who passed the Ascnet new screening so he has a right to become an Agent, also Liv doesn't even stand beside him cuz her frame is dangerous to death

    • @HyperOpticalSaint
      @HyperOpticalSaint Рік тому +9

      Nah, he still got roflstomped by Luna with ease.

    • @y.s8211
      @y.s8211 Рік тому +40

      @@HyperOpticalSaint any argument?

    • @HyperOpticalSaint
      @HyperOpticalSaint Рік тому +9

      @@y.s8211 That's what already happened in CN, that is a fact.

    • @y.s8211
      @y.s8211 Рік тому +31

      @@HyperOpticalSaint i didn't see argument, tell me

    • @y.s8211
      @y.s8211 Рік тому +23

      @@HyperOpticalSaint she just stuck inside Ascnet right now

  • @ShinigamiSamaH
    @ShinigamiSamaH Рік тому +98

    Ah yes, the walking turret with 360 degree rapid fire. And they come in pair too of course.
    Though personally I hate those red spinning tops more with their shitty area denial that last forever.

  • @anw7669
    @anw7669 Рік тому +219

    Can we all agree that Lee hyperreal is atleast comparable to Lucia crimson weave

    • @HowAreYou2
      @HowAreYou2 Рік тому +85

      i believe Lee inside tower is peak performance of a contruct to going through screening by metaprojection itself. Like Lee basically peak of humanity and by that point really said a lot about him

    • @saaimislam1129
      @saaimislam1129 10 місяців тому +3

      Lee is not even stronger than luna

    • @saaimislam1129
      @saaimislam1129 10 місяців тому +3

      We havent even seen her true power yet

    • @Christian-CTDC
      @Christian-CTDC 9 місяців тому +2

      Nope, even Alpha crimson abyss can stalemate hyperreal

    • @Yunshin.
      @Yunshin. 8 місяців тому

      ​@@Christian-CTDCliterally alpha cw accepting to be agent and accepting punishing virus power itself and her potential and not longer holding back> Lee hypperreal even he use timeline or call his other frame.

  • @jeron98E2
    @jeron98E2 Рік тому +64

    I like how plume doesn't even make the cut haha. And Liv likely not 5th in in terms of combat but should be uncategorized since she mainly purify virus. Maybe Abyss stigma ties with Lee for combat

    • @Phantomloxx
      @Phantomloxx  Рік тому +14

      Lee and Liv are Omega weapons so Bianca not even close

    • @jeron98E2
      @jeron98E2 Рік тому +25

      @@Phantomloxx even as omega weapon Liv is still kinda a support construct, and I believe battle sense,etc can triampnt

    • @jeron98E2
      @jeron98E2 Рік тому +7

      @_sb__ I know, but that's just mostly against punishing virus on mobs. Against other constructs/ agents would be different, and just sucking the virus in is different from actual combat.(We play Liv is flashy actions etc but it's not the same when pitting against a more combat experienced for in lore)

    • @zenmirio5178
      @zenmirio5178 Рік тому +2

      @@PhantomloxxAbystigama> liv

    • @wizzy7755
      @wizzy7755 Рік тому

      @@Phantomloxx Lol What the fck is that logic? Hyperreal's frame was based from empyrea BUT lee's omega frame transcended beyond the limits of what an omega construct can do. He was the first to pass trial and ascencion network for humanity's side and in his monologue, he can go beyond and be within the leagues of a god if he is given more time to perfect the hyperreal frame. Do your research better

  • @Tankbiasa
    @Tankbiasa 3 місяці тому +7

    Merciful one: im the stronger
    Unscalable:🗿☕

  • @Zyxrav
    @Zyxrav Рік тому +43

    I thought Commander is Number 1 because main character can control all punishing gray raven character 😂

    • @TioWalterKGAW
      @TioWalterKGAW Рік тому +21

      🤫 shikikan is rank 0 is a Chad is beyond merciful a superior deity plus shinkikan is a God of humility who is after peace and never bothers to humiliate his opponents

    • @iskoconquers
      @iskoconquers Рік тому +9

      ​@@TioWalterKGAW Master Chief of PGR

    • @TioWalterKGAW
      @TioWalterKGAW 5 місяців тому

      ​@@iskoconquersI think Shikikan is equal to Doom since he is stronger than Vonnegut who had shikikan DNA
      And in Lor he has already defeated an ascendant
      Shikikan is the lamia's father
      which is a clone of the SKK the other clones are dead

  • @minhbui547
    @minhbui547 Рік тому +63

    Yeah, ik it. No one can beat pgr hidden boss. 🤣

  • @HSMJose7
    @HSMJose7 Рік тому +23

    Is it possible that the merciful one would be a playable character in her construct form one day?
    Cause she looks really good in her construct form .

  • @kulonstep69
    @kulonstep69 10 місяців тому +8

    Are none talking about Commandat?
    He has resistants in Punishing virus n still Human 😅

  • @ryochitenkai
    @ryochitenkai Рік тому +11

    0 place - Alpha's father, Vergil

  • @vergiltheartofpower6616
    @vergiltheartofpower6616 Рік тому +52

    How is Lee 5th? He was able to go teo-to-toe with Ishmal despite being a projection.

    • @hei2na881
      @hei2na881 Рік тому

      Wdym by projection

    • @iskandarr3961
      @iskandarr3961 Рік тому +26

      ​@@hei2na881 Projection as in the Merciful One Lee fought only had 10% of their actual strength.

    • @belial4327
      @belial4327 5 місяців тому

      ​@@iskandarr3961true she was very merciful on lee

  • @jester1924
    @jester1924 Рік тому +13

    My top 5 are:
    1. Merciful One
    2. Von/Lee Hyperreal
    3. Roland
    4. Bianca
    5. Rosetta
    My only reason for having Roland on this list is for the fact that he is recognized to be one of the strongest by multiple characters and has been clearly stated to be holding back…a lot. Hyperreal is the GOAT, Rosetta has some strong feats, same with Bianca. But that’s just my opinion lol

  • @josedelatorre2675
    @josedelatorre2675 5 місяців тому +2

    1. The 4 terrapods machinegunning you and dropping artillery strikes through the wall while you’re getting rammed by 4 horse carriages in recitativo di fantasia

  • @chazfromouterspace
    @chazfromouterspace Рік тому +5

    My favorite construct is Qu, just love her as a character

  • @GrayRavenTantalum31
    @GrayRavenTantalum31 2 місяці тому +3

    Argh I forgot, obviously after such a long comment, I have to give my own point, Even though it is a personal opinion, I'm sure it's really accurate. There are 2 lists, full feats and current feats
    The Full feat one:
    1. The Merciful One.
    2. Lee Hyperreal
    3. Nanami Starfarer
    4. Luna Oblivion
    5. Dunno, I guess it's Liv's Boss form in Chapter Surviving Lucem
    And The current feats:
    1. The Merciful One
    2. Nanami Starfarer
    3. Luna Oblivion
    4. Lee Hyperreal
    5. Still dunno.
    The above two lists are just slight position changes, without any additions or deletions.

  • @adamsalik7389
    @adamsalik7389 Рік тому +14

    Mechnanami: ಠ ೧ ಠ

    • @_xiuxiu1310
      @_xiuxiu1310 Рік тому +1

      idk much abt nanamech's lore but imo she should be in top 5 instead of Liv. feel free to educate me w CN lore tho

  • @banji7612
    @banji7612 Рік тому +10

    Is there anyway possible that Von gonna be playable?
    I dont know very much story but he looks so freaking good way too good to just being an npc

    • @siapaya711
      @siapaya711 Рік тому +1

      Ik, he emits that cosmic-ish vibe like merciful one

  • @GrayRavenTantalum31
    @GrayRavenTantalum31 2 місяці тому +17

    Seem you guys don't really know about the power of Hyperreal's original frame. His entry into the babel tower helps just help him exist in a higher dimension, travel across universes, witness and experience millions of consequences and the end of humanity when his other beings failed against Primal Projection, if he accepts the power of Watchers aka Gods after defeating Primal Projection, it's clear that he will be the 2nd strongest character after The Merciful One cuz nobody can touch his higher being. But just because he rejected that power and returned to his original Construct doesn't make him weaker. His Hyper frame's abilities has appeared in Asimov's tests. Need some feats (well just take some of them from Dave Cabales in PGR Global's group)
    +Immeasurable speed.
    +Punishing Virus Immunity
    +Avoiding attacks when entering the Matrix and Core Passive state.
    +Spaming Multiple Clones, and each Clone has the same speed as original being.
    +Supercomputer analytical thinking, which were gonna base at the Supercomputer in real world. Supercomputer in our world it allows multiple user to access supercomputing at the same time, which Lee uses when he fought all the enemies in the tower where he calculate all the possible outcome that he can win in a certain match (Seems similar to Accelerator from Toaru Universe, and with that feat he can tank Unlimited Void from Gojo).
    Weapon: Key of Tempus Gate: An omega weapon consuming all the sight points to merge the "Worldlines" from "Gates" into one, making an explosion and fire damage based on the theory of Albert Einstein.
    What I say maybe a bit, or a lot confusing, but if you are a member of Deathbattle, or you search for some scientific theories, you will understand how strong Lee Hyperreal is. And not gonna lie, he can neg-diff all of Constructs and Ascendants if he want, well except Luna Void BUT in original being.

    • @redace4821
      @redace4821 25 днів тому

      Death battle? Of all the power scaling source, you use the the worse one?

    • @GrayRavenTantalum31
      @GrayRavenTantalum31 25 днів тому +2

      @@redace4821 So how about debunking it ? While all of his gameplay abilities were confirmed in Asimov's test before he entered the Hetero Tower, it proves that all of his gameplay are his abilities in lorewise. I may have a little wank his being in lower dimension, he may go into shock from overheating and be unable to maintain hypermatrix continuously, but his higher dimension being absolutely not.

    • @redace4821
      @redace4821 25 днів тому

      @@GrayRavenTantalum31 Did I say everything you said is false? I just said Death battle are not a reliable source for power scaling or interpretation of someone's power.

    • @GrayRavenTantalum31
      @GrayRavenTantalum31 25 днів тому +2

      @@redace4821 oh, sorry, my bad. I mean, people "who are interested in deathbattle" will know how strong he is, and can provide an accurate tier list. Those people can truly understand Lee's power, when Alpha-simps, Waifu simps either don't read lorewise, or have read but only based on their feelings, underestimating him, and that is clearly shown in this comment section (Well except me, a Luna Void-Simps). It doesn't mean I got the source from Vsbw or some Deathbattle wiki. Cuz there isn't any character from PGR on those web 🤷. If anything, it's just collab characters from Nier or Black Rock Shooter, cuz PGR is so underrated and unpopular argh, kuro needs to advertise it better like Wuthering Waves. As for the source, I actually took it from the Visual Novel right in the game, chapter 21. And there are some feats I saw from a guy scaling on PGR Global Group. Some things can be wank like speed, hax, and need skill to scale it. But, believe me, if you actually read chapter 21, you will clearly know his abilities.

    • @redace4821
      @redace4821 25 днів тому

      @@GrayRavenTantalum31 You also don't have to write a paragraph this long either.
      Most power scaler don't even like the concept of anything higher than Multiversal let alone going into Hyper, Outer, and Extra. The average playerbase wouldn't be able to comprehend anything higher than Planetary.

  • @unknown20005
    @unknown20005 5 місяців тому +2

    i just pulled lucia and it was a single pull i still got it

  • @moonlight-vk6gg
    @moonlight-vk6gg Рік тому +9

    Not the tryhardpod

  • @SynthwxvePuls3
    @SynthwxvePuls3 4 місяці тому +1

    Background song is perfect

  • @Yunshin.
    @Yunshin. 3 місяці тому +6

    For everyone saying that Lee hypperreal solo cw.
    Lee hypperreal he's indeed strong but not powerful since he got nerfed and now being ordinary construct now.
    And it shows that cw and Luna's new frame are the strongest now even we compare vengut alpha can defeat him in chapter 14 old alpha frame mind being unstable but she made vengut sweating.
    And also alpha haven't accepting to be an agent yet powerful already and she can keep up with Luna's new frame when they fought and even alpha got defeated she immediately recovered from Luna's attacks after that with literally Luna's new frame second strongest queen now.
    Also with Luna's new frame and cw they can literally live in peace and freely without worrying the others or the punishing virus.
    Keep in mind cw haven't fully accepted the punishing virus and being literally agent level already even vonnegut himself scared of alpha even with her old frame.
    Alpha only shows her raw power and skills yet she can cut reality on her old frame and can cut through dimensions without boost of the punishing virus.
    If you don't believe it read the whole chapter 14 and the current lore now.
    Especially now Lee literally weak outside the tower now especially in lamia chapter.
    Especially alpha can now control the punishing virus especially it shows in Lilith when alpha defeated her easily being new to her frame and power when Lilith tried to patch herself up by the punishing virus she can't control it because of alpha and also if you think alpha can't fight without weapons you're very wrong because her strength are powerful.
    Especially her speed is almost a speed of light itself.
    Take note: I'm not a simp I'm saying that y'all thought cw is being yowai while you guys haven't seen her fully potential yet being powerful and stronger without the punishing virus truly offer.And she doesn't buff herself or emp herself with the punishing virus her cw frame is all raw power and skill again she can still cut reality and dimensions but in another higher level than before her old frame and she can travel and fight whatever she wants even it's a agent or not and her capable is literally more than you think.

    • @GrayRavenTantalum31
      @GrayRavenTantalum31 2 місяці тому +4

      Well, nice point, but seem you don't really know about the power of Hyperreal's original frame. His entry into the babel tower helps just help him exist in a higher dimension, travel across universes, witness and experience millions of consequences and the end of humanity when his other beings failed against Primal Projection, if he accepts the power of Watchers aka Gods after defeating Primal Projection, it's clear that he will be the 2nd strongest character after The Merciful One cuz nobody can touch his higher being. But just because he rejected that power and returned to his original Construct doesn't make him weaker. His Hyper frame's abilities has appeared in Asimov's tests. Need some feats (well just take some of them from Dave Cabales in PGR Global's group)
      +Immeasurable speed.
      +Punishing Virus Immunity
      +Avoiding attacks when entering the Matrix and Core Passive state.
      +Spaming Multiple Clones, and each Clone has the same speed as original being.
      +Supercomputer analytical thinking, which were gonna base at the Supercomputer in real world. Supercomputer in our world it allows multiple user to access supercomputing at the same time, which Lee uses when he fought all the enemies in the tower where he calculate all the possible outcome that he can win in a certain match (Seems similar to Accelerator from Toaru Universe, and with that feat he can tank Unlimited Void from Gojo).
      Weapon: Key of Tempus Gate: An omega weapon consuming all the sight points to merge the "Worldlines" from "Gates" into one, making an explosion and fire damage based on the theory of Albert Einstein.
      What I say maybe a bit, or a lot confusing, but if you are a member of Deathbattle, or you search for some scientific theories, you will understand how strong Lee Hyperreal is. And not gonna lie, he can neg-diff all of Constructs and Ascendants if he want, well except Luna Void BUT in original being.

    • @Yunshin.
      @Yunshin. 2 місяці тому

      @@GrayRavenTantalum31 he's far than strong. But he can't negs alpha that fast and luna if you understand the sisters true power you'll understand that they are unstoppable even with Lee clones and speed and luna and alpha speed is almost a speed of light but almost itself but if they boost themselves with punishing virus or emp their abilities they are literally unstoppable they can even live in the world without anyone touching them and if Lee can negs all the them he already did but he can't because it's not his interest and he knows how luna and alpha abilities and can do I'm quite lazy to explain but you'll understand once the story is in global and showed how luna void and alpha cw power speed senses works that's why Lee won't dare to touch luna either alpha.

    • @Yunshin.
      @Yunshin. 2 місяці тому

      @@GrayRavenTantalum31 and alpha and luna can survive through omega weapon although. I'm not spoiling more so.. feel free to see from yourself. But indeed Lee is strong enough to survive anyway.

    • @GrayRavenTantalum31
      @GrayRavenTantalum31 2 місяці тому +4

      @@Yunshin. I usually give feats according to what has been written in the story up to now, this is inevitable in DeathBattle, or at least a debate if the opponent wants you to show what you have given. And if it is a Battle between two or multiple characters in the same universe, that will be much more convenient, when you can confirm or deny your opponent very quickly. I'm quite confident about what I've read and researched about PGR story, cuz this's my 1st fav gacha game, plus I'm a member, or at least, interested in "DeathBattle" topic, so I'm pretty sure I understand the power of all characters in PGR lore. After reading your comment, I have a few things to refute and add some information to you (Urgh, seems TLDR lol)
      + Firstly, Alpha CW's abilities "in the plot", I would like to emphasize that "in the plot", they are quite vague, not evident. Lee and Luna's feats are both clearly shown in their chapters and information. Let's clarify, the abilities in Hyper frame were all "confirmed" in Asimov's test before Lee enter the Hetero Tower, and Luna's feats is from the "information section" in main lobby when you level up Luna Void Affection to lv6, combined with the plot in chapter 30. But in the CW chapter, all things that she shows is "Alpha CW and Lucia Plume's fight", and Plume's support to help CW seal her powers on the left hand. None of her abilities, feats are demonstrated, and the Punishing power sealed in her hands, is yet to be shown, so it comes off as "featless", even her information section noticed that.
      + Secondly, even if we assume her abilities you say are correct, it's actually too easy for Lee to defeat her. CW has Light speed, seems fast, but she is still too slow compared to the time Lee entered the Matrix, and his abilities when entering Matrix ? 100% Avoid hitting, so how she can touch him ? And if she uses the power of the Punishing Virus? That is meaningless with a Virus-immune frame, and that's even more stupid for her, why do I say that? because the way CW accepts Punishing's power is different from Luna and Lee. Luna is an Agent, a bridge between the Construct and the Virus, she is the one chosen by Ascnet. Lee can have accepted the power of the Watcher, a high level Agent, because he defeated the presence of The Merciful One, he passed the test from Gods after millions of failures. But for CW, she did not accept being an Agent, she refuse the power of Virus Punishing because she "can't hold it", seriously, she couldn't have passed the Ascnet test without the support of Lucia Plume and Luna Laurel. Without the two of them, she has become Corrupted because she cannot control the power of the Virus. Ahh no, she's never passed the Ascnet test correctly, she wants to be an Ascendant cuz she just want to be next to her sister. And just with that her purpose, she is not strong enough to pass Ascnet's test. What she did was just seal the Virus's power into her left hand, if she faced its full power, even with Plume and Laurel's help, she would fail, becoming Corrupted and Lucia Plume's M.I.N.D will be seriously infected with the Virus.
      + Additionally, about Luna, she has the ability to be undefeatable right now in the world where she lives. She has creation, destruction of anything at will, she has the ability to simulate, seeing possible futures and pasts. It's basically the same as Lee's ability, but seems weeker, cuz Lee touched and experienced all those timelines, thus gathering his beings and find the way to defeat Primal Projection and protect the world, but for Luna it's just a simulation, and the simulation based on the Ascnet network may not be accurate. This is shown in Affection and in Chapter 30, when Ascnet suggests that the snow orchid has disappeared, but in reality it still exists. Well, that's a bit of her ability, but the real key that Lee is not being able to defeat Luna is her "Punishing Virus connection". She is a Moving Red Tide, Frame Oblivion is entirely based on 100% Virus Punishing, not Construct, to defeat her requires lowering a large amount of the Virus, basically it is immortality type 8. And to do that, we need Liv's Empyrea frame, combined with the Omega reactor to lower the virus concentration. Of course I only mentioned the possibility to defeat her, in reality she is a bridge between humanity and Virus, and we, Commandant, have added her to our Harem list LoL. And her immediate purpose that she told to us is: a future where humanity must live with the Punishing Virus.
      × But whether she becomes a major villain of human with her Ascendants and wants to destroy humanity, unless she and the Ascendants take over the Clean Zone and Babel Tower, once Lee unlocks his memories and powers in the tower, along with the acceptance The Merciful One's power, the humanity's true opponent is just The Merciful One, or Sagemachina, the organization of Nanami Starfarer, who also have the ability to travel across cosmic timelines. How about Luna and others Ascendants ? Nah they might even be killed before becoming an Ascendant (Lee became Kurumi in this moment), or she is not even existed, why ? So do you know string theory ? The universe we live in is a string with many branches, and the gods are the ones who have the ability to control those strings and towards the branches that they desire. Those who reach this level in PGR? Ishmael a.k.a The Merciful One, Nanami Starfarer (read chapter Her Last Bow), and of course, G.O.A.T Lee Hyperreal.
      Well, seems this is too long, right? Just comment that to give you guys more information about PGR's Lore. You know what, I'm a huge simp Luna, and also main Luna Void as I spent nearly 100 USD to buy her Coating and upgrade her to SS3, but please, just because you simp someone and they are famous doesn't mean you overestimate them. Lee Hyperreal seams to be suck in gameplay cuz he's the worse Attacker gen 2, but it doesn't mean he is weak in the lore, cuz he's one of the strongest chief in full power mode, and even when he returns to his original being, he is still capable of defeating everyone except My girl, I mean Luna.

    • @Yunshin.
      @Yunshin. 2 місяці тому

      @@GrayRavenTantalum31 mhm~ it's very interesting.

  • @spotlightinthesky823
    @spotlightinthesky823 Рік тому +87

    Lorewise: Bianca 😭

    • @erwinsmith3006
      @erwinsmith3006 Рік тому +35

      Bianca lorewise is powerful she can stop the time but she just weaker than the others

    • @kaelell4697
      @kaelell4697 Рік тому +3

      @@erwinsmith3006 wait, TIME MANIPULATION?! All that prayer must have paid off!

  • @renzakai_playz
    @renzakai_playz 7 місяців тому +2

    I still wanna know when we are getting VONNEGUT as a playable Character it's been ages

  • @errebusaether
    @errebusaether Рік тому +2

    The one being that all ‘no hit runners’ fear.
    The powerful terrapod capable of blasting through you with minimal effort with 99.9% hit accuracy.

  • @ayatoayagi1278
    @ayatoayagi1278 Рік тому +4

    Playable Von and Merci ,we need them right away!!!

  • @acousticks526
    @acousticks526 Рік тому +3

    I'm excited for the day we get Vonnegut as a playable character

  • @LunaAster-pn2pg
    @LunaAster-pn2pg 2 місяці тому +2

    I am saving for Vonnegut ....:)...Can we have please...

  • @ridwanshaleh1332
    @ridwanshaleh1332 Рік тому +59

    It should be
    1. Merciful One, she's a God, that's it
    2. Alpha Crimson Weave, she just encompassed Ascension Network
    3. Lee Hyperreal
    4. Vonnegut
    5. Luna

    • @dez87
      @dez87 Рік тому +18

      Lee is stronger than alpha

    • @rajbiswas1606
      @rajbiswas1606 Рік тому

      What are vonnegut's feats

    • @quasogod
      @quasogod Рік тому

      lee vs alpha, who win?

    • @Kokoinaday
      @Kokoinaday 9 місяців тому +3

      ​@@quasogodLee !!

    • @Yunshin.
      @Yunshin. 8 місяців тому +1

      ​@@quasogodAlpha cw accepting to be agent and accepting punishing virus power itself and her true potential> Lee outside the tower

  • @Phantomloxx
    @Phantomloxx  5 місяців тому +3

    New Version ua-cam.com/users/shortsltWqLqLBV28

  • @dez87
    @dez87 Рік тому +25

    Lee hyperreal is much stronger than alpha LMAO

  • @CommandoPride
    @CommandoPride Рік тому +3

    What beat is that?

  • @FrizFroz
    @FrizFroz Рік тому +10

    In CN lore Alpha is stronger than Luna and Vonnegut now?

    • @Phantomloxx
      @Phantomloxx  Рік тому +20

      Alpha has been holding back every time by not using punishing virus to amp herself and attacks. Alpha is pure skill

    • @toxicplayer3243
      @toxicplayer3243 Рік тому

      ​@@Phantomloxxso does her new frame use the punishing virus?

    • @legendaryoof7410
      @legendaryoof7410 Рік тому +6

      @@Phantomloxx so anyone she defeat all have skill issue and doesn't have enough power to make up for it.

    • @zechross
      @zechross Рік тому +4

      ​@@toxicplayer3243 actually now she's fully rejected ascnet so i guess her Ascendant power is not as strong as before, but her pure swordmanship skill is already over the top

    • @wasdx-_9258
      @wasdx-_9258 6 місяців тому

      ​@zechro she never used Ascnet power to begin with. She is much stronger now.

  • @baddlaziiboii9545
    @baddlaziiboii9545 Рік тому +9

    Man I hate Riot so much please make a side story where we erase him from existence

  • @luizfernandoalvesdasilva1427
    @luizfernandoalvesdasilva1427 Рік тому +2

    Song????

  • @naomiking4159
    @naomiking4159 Рік тому +5

    Song?

    • @HanT5247
      @HanT5247 9 місяців тому

      It's a remix from money so good yeat

  • @Crxna_
    @Crxna_ Місяць тому +1

    What music?

  • @mirarose6737
    @mirarose6737 Рік тому +6

    Ishmael is not boss projection, but projection said in this world there are messengers or travelers and Ishmael was probably messengers or travelers.
    Boss projection just another self that come from same place.

    • @hei2na881
      @hei2na881 Рік тому

      What is the projection thing?

    • @mirarose6737
      @mirarose6737 Рік тому

      @@hei2na881 She is a projection from a higher dimension.
      (but now in Japan server. They announced that Ishmael's voice actor and The projection were the same person. lol.. I mean, they're probably the same person.)

    • @Shahid_2004
      @Shahid_2004 6 місяців тому

      ​@@mirarose6737 give or take, but Projection and Ishmael are basically TMO's "terminals" for different purposes.

    • @mirarose6737
      @mirarose6737 6 місяців тому

      @@Shahid_2004 yep Ishmael or TMO It is a higher dimension that descends to a lower dimension (Maybe it's just projection or existence but that's not point)
      But fact is that Projection itself is collective will of Higher Dimension (in other words.. TMO or Ishmael is a part of Projection)

  • @Asendur
    @Asendur Рік тому +1

    name of the song plsss also Cradle is the strongest atm

  • @TarentiniMG
    @TarentiniMG Рік тому +1

    I wish nugget man is playable and using his finger gun as his main weapon.

  • @axelplays9997
    @axelplays9997 Рік тому +1

    I have two questions. Who is more powerful, Luna or Alpha? And where is Lucia?

  • @piotrj333
    @piotrj333 Рік тому +6

    Luna is weak. In Ch12 we were fighting against that small monster white, and Luna had issues with it and we had to help her. Roland had fights with Alpha and others was tired, went to another twin of that monster and soloed it. Roland is literally lore wise on par with Luna it was said he hides his strenght. Hyperreal is strongest construct ever created, and only Merciful one could probably win. Empyrea < Von Negut < Hyperreal (outside tower)

    • @Rejjis
      @Rejjis Рік тому +8

      Lore wise: Luna was weak because she's slipping her focus away, becoming content with Lucia with her aka Alpa. That's how she got surprised by Gabriel.
      Gamewise: still the prominent Dark Attacker to this day. While Lightning, Physical, Fire has had changes.

    • @wasdx-_9258
      @wasdx-_9258 6 місяців тому

      Roland is strong, but he's weaker than both Luna and Alpha pre CW. Why? Because then Ascnet would've wanted him like it wanted Alpha. And would instantly make him an agent. He's just somewhat stronger than Gabriel and that's it.

  • @ridiculous3253
    @ridiculous3253 9 місяців тому +1

    Music name pls?

  • @Unposhito
    @Unposhito 7 місяців тому +1

    Name song ?

  • @tyrantxvill
    @tyrantxvill 10 місяців тому +1

    Bianca now on Global so excited

    • @tyrantxvill
      @tyrantxvill 10 місяців тому +1

      Can't wait for Alpha now

  • @luizfernandoalvesdasilva1427
    @luizfernandoalvesdasilva1427 11 місяців тому +1

    What is this music???

  • @SGR867
    @SGR867 7 місяців тому

    What is the name of the music? It's godlike

  • @siesta_san73
    @siesta_san73 Рік тому +2

    True that spider robot is a pain in the ass to me

  • @farrelhadyan6989
    @farrelhadyan6989 Рік тому +5

    You know, all of this happened because of a leak on a Reactor or some kind lol

    • @constant8713
      @constant8713 Рік тому +14

      fr we started with some computer virus now we fighting cosmic beings

    • @farrelhadyan6989
      @farrelhadyan6989 Рік тому +1

      ​@@constant8713 yeah bro, thinking about it freaks me out, this game teaches us about how we should not download any virus in our computers so the world will not end

    • @siapaya711
      @siapaya711 Рік тому

      That's why we human shouldn't mess with timespace and interdimension shit, who knows if we unintentionally invite an eldritch abomination

  • @momotarou4295
    @momotarou4295 Рік тому +1

    Song pls

  • @luizfernandoalvesdasilva1427
    @luizfernandoalvesdasilva1427 Рік тому +1

    Song plss

  • @Xioufei
    @Xioufei Рік тому +2

    If you have Lee hyperreal and liv soleater/empyrea in your team, you scare me

  • @ZERO-xb6hl
    @ZERO-xb6hl Рік тому

    Von negut live wallpaper link? XD

  • @admiral_chika6780
    @admiral_chika6780 Рік тому +1

    Just started surprised lucia isn’t here

  • @knightofoath
    @knightofoath Рік тому +6

    The list is outdated as well, Luna is no chance against hyperreal even she use all of her punishing power after lee compliting his training with ithmael and have equal higher dimensional being power, so punishing virus is not his problem anyway
    Alpha is bit overrated here, she is strong with her own battle ability without a great frame or punishing power, but that make her a limit
    Empreya can purify punishing virus, but she has limit, she doesn't worthly to enter this list

    • @saaimislam1129
      @saaimislam1129 9 місяців тому +1

      Luna is still stronger than lee now that she got her power back outside of the tower and i dont know about inside the tower but lee probably edges it

    • @HowAreYou2
      @HowAreYou2 8 місяців тому +2

      ​@@saaimislam1129lee inside tower neg everyone except ishmael tbh

  • @huyhogia1710
    @huyhogia1710 10 місяців тому

    Ờm.... tui đang có 2500 vé quay event ấy, thì nên lấy ai trong nhóm un vậy ( thấy nó cho 1 con S trong 10 lượt đầu ) , cho tui hỏi 😢

  • @yumikoshira350
    @yumikoshira350 Місяць тому

    song name? pls

  • @xyzwork9539
    @xyzwork9539 Рік тому +4

    nah bro, the strongest is the bomb critters kekw

  • @ZwalistyDrwal
    @ZwalistyDrwal 10 місяців тому

    Can Bianca:Abystigma be placed somewhere in here?

  • @NagonoharaYoimiya
    @NagonoharaYoimiya Рік тому

    I was expecting the merciful one!!

  • @subagyagamingsg6002
    @subagyagamingsg6002 Рік тому +1

    What this song bruh ?

  • @kidney1163
    @kidney1163 Рік тому +3

    IKR tht fkin scorpion or whatever is tht alwaysss make me ughhhh they are thick and they gib alot damage

  • @CromwellEdonis
    @CromwellEdonis 10 годин тому

    How about Cradle and Lucia Pyroath?

  • @adityaramadhan1744
    @adityaramadhan1744 Рік тому +1

    What about machiavelli and his doppelganger

  • @sukmacatur856
    @sukmacatur856 Рік тому +2

    Yes, the Terrapod made me upset..

  • @luizfernandoalvesdasilva1427
    @luizfernandoalvesdasilva1427 Рік тому +8

    What this music??

    • @Phantomloxx
      @Phantomloxx  Рік тому +5

      My friend made it. Trying to convince him to upload his stuff on youtube

    • @luizfernandoalvesdasilva1427
      @luizfernandoalvesdasilva1427 Рік тому +3

      Continue

    • @FreeMovies01
      @FreeMovies01 Рік тому

      ​@@Phantomloxxdid he ever upload it?

    • @HanT5247
      @HanT5247 Рік тому

      @@Phantomloxxthe music is 🔥 🔥🔥 bro

    • @Beanskiiii
      @Beanskiiii Рік тому

      @@PhantomloxxI have the same problem with my boi

  • @SapphireYuna
    @SapphireYuna Рік тому +2

    NOT THE TURRET NOT THE TURRET!!! NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO..................

  • @NinoNes-.
    @NinoNes-. Рік тому

    Music?????

  • @glizzynator5258
    @glizzynator5258 Рік тому +20

    Pretty sure Von > alpha considering he's part of ascnet like, also while alpha holds back she's below Watanabe level at that. The difference between them is too big. Also wasn't Von toying with her.

    • @ZwalistyDrwal
      @ZwalistyDrwal Рік тому

      I thought she gets stronger the before with Crimson Weave frame?

    • @MaoCroatia
      @MaoCroatia Рік тому +18

      This list is based off of CN right now. Granted, Vonnegut is still a mystery, but Alpha however:
      Absorbed the Ascension Network itsekf during the Crimson Weave patch. She has the power of an agent, but isn't bound like one.
      Also, as for Watanabe vs Alpha, neither of them was trying to kill each other, and receiving a cut from a veteran construct soldier while holding back isn't that much of an indication of anything.

    • @vineshperera2668
      @vineshperera2668 Рік тому +10

      well Alpha turned Rosetta into swiss cheese without breaking a sweat even though rosetta was designed as a weapon against her

    • @dez87
      @dez87 Рік тому

      ​@@MaoCroatiaLee is stronger

    • @MaoCroatia
      @MaoCroatia Рік тому +3

      @@dez87 Lee was powerful in the Tower, but he isn't that on that high level outside of it. When it comes to frames, Hyperreal is the pinnacle of technology at the moment, but Alpha is Alpha.

  • @y.s8211
    @y.s8211 Рік тому +3

    So, right top is
    1. Merciful (actually it was even not her but ok)
    2. Alpha/Lee
    3. Vonnegut
    4. Luna
    5. (idk someone but not Liv)

    • @HowAreYou2
      @HowAreYou2 Рік тому

      empyria and abystigma

    • @y.s8211
      @y.s8211 Рік тому

      @@HowAreYou2 no, they are common structures actually
      And I said
      Not Liv
      Because her frame is dangerous to death

    • @Hoshikagayakikun
      @Hoshikagayakikun Рік тому

      5. Noan And Abystigma, Noan has the power to purify the virus without dying

  • @uchralmunkhbaatar1392
    @uchralmunkhbaatar1392 11 місяців тому

    Is S Liv good? Im new

  • @majufuruiryo9533
    @majufuruiryo9533 Рік тому +2

    pod shit the last even michael bow down to that shit

  • @xiliam1850
    @xiliam1850 11 місяців тому

    What? Is Vonnegut playable?

  • @Emptiness771
    @Emptiness771 Рік тому

    Whenever I heard that "pew pew pew pew pew ink" I have to spam it

  • @yato_o
    @yato_o Місяць тому

    Lee hyperial or bianca stigmata ?

  • @mohamedTOGU
    @mohamedTOGU Рік тому

    What about camu 😭💔?

  • @HanT5247
    @HanT5247 11 місяців тому

    I keep coming back for the music track, anyone has link?

    • @Phantomloxx
      @Phantomloxx  11 місяців тому

      Ok so for the Music it's actually my friend who made it. But he hasn't dropped it on youtube.

    • @luizfernandoalvesdasilva1427
      @luizfernandoalvesdasilva1427 9 місяців тому

      Ve se ele pode postar e mandar o link

    • @HanT5247
      @HanT5247 9 місяців тому

      @@luizfernandoalvesdasilva1427 i found out the mix was from the beat of money so big-yeat

  • @NOATWOLAWSTRYANTUNSURPERSHADOW
    @NOATWOLAWSTRYANTUNSURPERSHADOW 5 місяців тому +1

    version strongest commandant by me
    1 commandant (true form)
    2 commandant (avatar)
    3 commandant (base)
    4 commandant (suppressed)
    5 commandant (holding pistol)

  • @junwtf
    @junwtf Рік тому +4

    not the fucking terrapod

  • @selenalele4879
    @selenalele4879 Рік тому +10

    If from story,I think lee is number 2 strongest after marciful one

    • @HowAreYou2
      @HowAreYou2 Рік тому +5

      inside the tower yeah for sure but him right now definitely not any stronger than agents

    • @Inexistente02
      @Inexistente02 Рік тому +6

      ​@@HowAreYou2but didn't Lee pass through the acnect (forgot how to write it) and now he can become an agent?

    • @wizzy7755
      @wizzy7755 10 місяців тому +1

      ​@@Inexistente02Yeah he can. And he mentioned that if he fully utilize and master the hyppereal frame after it attained ascendant level, he can be compared to a god.

    • @wasdx-_9258
      @wasdx-_9258 6 місяців тому

      ​@@Inexistente02"can become" and "is" are pretty different things.

  • @luizfernandoalvesdasilva1427

    Alguem sabe o nome dessa musica??

  • @Witch_of_Gains
    @Witch_of_Gains Рік тому +1

    DEEP BLUE FLASHBACKS

  • @mantapsoull1368
    @mantapsoull1368 Рік тому

    Is Merciful one called ishmael

  • @domynicjulian7074
    @domynicjulian7074 5 місяців тому

    Riot : oh hello there

  • @Enterprise4Life
    @Enterprise4Life Рік тому

    So who's #3? Is it the a hole when glory came out?

  • @littlerookie5550
    @littlerookie5550 Рік тому +3

    Jokes aside
    Has Ishmael actually done anything that makes people think she's the strongest, I don't really think she's that strong(she definitely is since she's an agent) especially after I learned that the boss in Lee's patch wasn't her

    • @erwinsmith3006
      @erwinsmith3006 Рік тому +15

      Von negut didn't dare to fight her in ch 14 and he mentions that the merciful one is the oblivion it self in ch 17 we don't know what that's mean but it's seems something powerful also in lee chapter there a hint that she can see the past and the future , in new alpha chapter luna mentions that she doesn't sure if merciful one a real agent
      She maybe a higher being that is different than the the projection lee fought
      When she doesn't did a that something big in the fight type makes her more scary because the greatest fear is the fear from the unknown

    • @kulonstep69
      @kulonstep69 10 місяців тому

      ​@@erwinsmith3006global player here, can you tell me why is she everywhere? I mean we can also can found her from surface and babylone. Its Like she didnt need a ship. ( And Liv talk with her in Aschnet)
      Also I agree its too suspicious if she just Agent, I wont believe that.
      With that kind of power she literally a Goddes.

    • @erwinsmith3006
      @erwinsmith3006 10 місяців тому

      @@kulonstep69 well she is some kind of God that why she's everywhere at the same time

  • @Hoshikagayakikun
    @Hoshikagayakikun Рік тому +2

    top 5 would be Noan because NOAN IS STRONGER THAN SOLATEAR LIV FRAME BECAUSE NOANS FRAME CAN PURIFY THE VIRUS WITH EASE

  • @erwinsmith3006
    @erwinsmith3006 Рік тому +32

    As for me put joke asides
    The merciful one
    Von negut
    Lee inside the tower
    Alpha who holds back
    Luna
    Lee outside the tower
    Liv , nanami, Bianca

    • @dez87
      @dez87 Рік тому +2

      Lee is stronger than Luna and alpha

    • @quasogod
      @quasogod Рік тому +3

      @@dez87 i n s i d e