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Very good video, I like the calm manner of narration very much. However, you got one thing wrong: Uwe Barschel was found dead in a bathtub in a hotel room in Geneva, Switzerland. This was officially ruled a suicide but there are loads of circumstances that do not add up.
Oh disaster breakdown could you do a double feature of Lapa flight 3142 and delta flight 1141 next Saturday? Both flight crews broke the sterile cockpit rule but the Lapa flight crew broke a rule of no smoking in the cockpit, Both flight crew failed to do their checklist correctly, and however the difference of Both flights is how the crews react on take off when things start to go wrong!
Well, I'm not sure about interesting but certainly tabloid, even sensationalist and verging on the Gothic!! Despite the short time only which elapsed between that awful accident and the politician's subsequent death, I also don't ascribe anything suspicious to the circumstances surrounding it. His actions regarding the dirty tricks with the media, suggest someone under huge pressure and not handling it well. Presumably, no foul play was discovered in the events pertaining to his death by drug overdose which was deemed suicide by a coroner? I say presumably because I don't recall specifics being given. My main concern however, is that it is not stated - and is therefore not possible to discern from this video - what happened in those crucial minutes and seconds before the wing struck the radio mast. Dare I say on other such channels, even if unknown, I think mention would have been made about whether either of the pilots were familiar with Lübeck Airport - and thus with the requirement to maintain a minimum altitude of at LEAST 53 feet (realistically 60, in order to have even the slimmest margin) on the approach. It also either wasn't stated exactly or again,I don't recall, other than something like that the radio mast was situated "several hundred yards" back from the start of the runway. It IS clear that this was an extremely old school, hand flown landing. However, even flying like that - and even in an older (first?) generation Citation - that leaves a fairly wide number of variables which might apply. I'm not a pilot, but I recall in certain ILS approaches, a chart is available to the pilots which advises what altitude the the airplane must maintain at the corresponding distance (to both keep clear of the terrain and manage the plane down at an acceptable angle which from recollection is usually 3 degrees). Furthermore, there are various of such parameters which can be preprogrammed into the aircraft computer - thus relieving the crew of the manual task of controlling at least one, sometimes more, of such parameters. The auto throttle, for example, might adjust the engine power so as to manage the speed on final approach, leaving the crew to the glide slope and direction only. Likewise, it wasn't specified whether there was a CVR and/or FDR and if so, whether or not they were recovered and if so, the level of damage they sustained and what, if anything, they revealed about the decisions and actions of the crew in those critical pre-accident moments, whether the crew had deviated from standard procedure and if so, why. We also get to hear nothing about the analysis of the wreckage and whether it had been determined if there was anything wrong with the aircraft. Finally, the most we are given about the weather is that it was "moderately bad" which gives no specific indications as to what the cloud cover and visibility was, whether it was raining and how heavily and how windy it was. Perhaps such technicalities are not the aim of this channel and that, indeed, it is much more about the human interest - indeed the dramatic high opera - that roils under the smartly uniformed, well groomed, clipped-accented external appearance of those involved I read The Times - and go to Covent Garden - but I never mix the two by taking The Sun. I wasn't able to find what might be called a mission statement so if someone wants to say what the channel's approach is, great but for now I remain unsubscribed....
The first officer involved in this and Paninternational flight 112 crash reminds me of a Brazilian captain by the name of Gilberto Araújo da Silva, who was also involved in 2 air accidents, and barely escaped death in the first crash after an forced landing. The first crash happened in 1973, while flying a varig 707 approaching Paris Orly airport, the plane's rear lavatory caught fire which became uncontrolled and toxic smoke spread through the plane. The flight crew concluded that they wouldn't reach the airfield and put the plane down in a field few miles away from the airfield. With 134 people on board, only 10 crew and 1 lucky passenger survived, captain da Silva being one of them. (This is an accident that I hope would become a future video topic due to chaotic moments onboard the plane and bravery of the flight crews.) Approximately 6 years later, captain da Silva was one of the flight crew onboard varig flight 967 out of Tokyo Narita airport, the flight was operated with a 707 cargo variant. Moments after takeoff, the plane, with its valuable cargo and crew, disappeared over Pacific ocean, for days, search and rescue workers can only found some floating debris and oil slicks. The wreckage was never found and the reason for the disappearance was still unknown.
Great video and presentation! Just one small correction: Barschel was later found dead in the bathtub of a hotel in Geneva, Switzerland, not on the Canary Islands.
i remembered elisabeth friske from the previous video, surviving one crash only to end up in another a few years later, very unfortunate. great video, as always!
Wow, how unlucky can you get to be involved in not one, but two crashes? The small consolation is that she died doing what she loved. Not many of us get to do that. Keep up the great work and thanks so much! Cheers!
@@skylineXpert His pronunciation of "Lübeck" was correct, in the same sense that "Cologne" isn't pronounced "Köln" in English. The English name of the city doesn't have the umlaut. The pronunciation of "Schleswig-Holstein" is the same in German and English, and his was fine.
I was in a two "controlled" crashes in heavy aircraft where one feels pretty helpless about the outcome. Everyone walked away unscathed, but rhat's two too many for this guy.
@@160rpmPronounced ‘Frisker’ in English? Also, is Uwe (as in Barschel) pronounced ‘Ooh-vey’ or ‘ooh-vuh’? I’ve heard it pronounced both ways, even by Germans. 🤷♂️
I like how the narrator, whatever their name is, has the same calm voice no matter what, even when panicking about proper pronunciation of small suburbs
Added 57 seconds ago. HA! What a timing :) BTW - thank you for covering this accident, this is another one I was not aware of! It's great you recently tell us about rather unknown disasters. It's an additional asset to your channel. 🌟
unrelated to this story but when I was deploying to Iraq in 2006, we were boarding a 777 and as I was walking onto the plane I made a comment that it was the biggest plane I'd ever been on/seen up close. The flight attendant heard me and asked me what my name was. I begrudgingly told her. As we were taxiing she came to the back of the plane and asked where I was at. I cautiously raised my hand and of course all my buddies and other Marines on the flight started cheering acting like I was getting ready to become part of the mile high club. She told me to follow her and she lead me to the cockpit. She told me that they had talked to air traffic control and had gotten approval for me to sit in the cock pit during takeoff. So I got to sit in the seat behind the captains seat and put the headphones on and listen to ATC and the pilots talk to each other. It was a whole other experience seeing the runway come at you instead of out of a side window. One of the coolest experiences I've ever had.
As a former Marine aviation crew member on the C-130 aircraft,we used to call landings controlled crashes.By the way,I was in a helicopter crash in the Indian Ocean in 1980,so I get a little antsy when I see that a crash is going to happen.
Thank you for covering this crash. I was so looking forward to this video, since the Paninternational one. Partly because I wanted to know what happened to Elisabeth Friske and partly because I live around the area of Lübeck. I love flying to the Lübeck Air port and to know exactly what it actually looks like there us amazing. You actually pronounce every thing really good. ^^ I hope there are more videos about German accidents coming some day. Thank you for making my Lunch break better.
Wow. Great video and I've just rewatched both this and the Paninternational Disaster Breakdown. Both excellent, and so tragic that Elisabeth Friske had such misfortune - especially since the earlier incident seemed to be outside the flight crew's control. I appreciate that this episode is in many ways a homage to Friske and it was presented very respectfully - thank you! At the same time I wondered why the NDB was where it was and presented such an obstacle - I've heard there were poor weather conditions, but can anybody shed light as to why this seemingly avoidable accident took place other than the crew flying into the structure..? It seems incredulous to me that it should have been placed so close to the threshold.
Not plane related, but Violet Jessup is always a fasinating read, survived two ocean liner sinkings, and a collission during wartime. That is some incredibly amazing survival odds, especialy given boats at that time in the 1910s/1920s/1930s. Now I'm wondering also what the aircrat equivalent is to her feat, actually
I don't expect one to be in a position for a third crash to happen. If they even get over the first one, stumble into a second and live. I'd personally be done with air after a second survival xD
@@psyolytesaille I read an interview a while ago with a woman whose parents had been onboard Estonia when she sank in 1994. Her dad survived but not her mom. 10 years later her dad was vacationing in Thailand over Christmas and New Year. Yup. The Boxing Day Tsunami. That is incredibly bad luck to be involved in two such major disasters. He was among those who perished in the tsunami.
@K4nzler , ich erinnere mich an drei innerhalb meiner Lebensspanne: Eine Bronco OV-10, die damals für Zielflugdarstellung eingesetzt waren, ein Sportflugzeug und die Citation aus diesem Video. Was ich bisher nicht wußte war, daß die gleiche Copilotin beteiligt war wie bei dem A7-Vorfall 1971.
Wow, i'm German and of cause knew about Uwe Barschel and the conspirancies regarding his body beeing found in a bathtub in a hotel in Zurich, but i had no idea he survived a massive plane crash just month earlier :O And the prononciation of the german words was great by the way ;)
The problem with pre-gps and ndb approaches.. Especially under Imc.. Is how many things can go wrong. The problem with ndb approaches is that it just gives you the direction to the station.. Not the course. If there a significant cross wind you have to keep correcting manually by changing the heading. Another problem no dme.. So that's why they descended too early.. Can happen with a headwind. Accidents like this would be almost impossible nowadays... Thanks mainly to gps. Another cause was the placement of the antenna. Usually these are 5 miles out. Added benefit being as you pass over the station, you know it's time to descent. I think this crew sort of had the runway in sight.. Descended too much too early and of course being nighttime didn't help.
@@DisasterBreakdown 9:25 Hey disaster breakdown, I enjoy seeing your videos, just wanted to give you a heads up, you misspelled assassination as assignation
Your pronunciation is pretty good indeed! One error slipped in though: Barschel died in the hotel Beau-Rivage in Geneva, Switzerland, not the Canary Islands!
A bit early this time huh? Also didn't expect you'll actually cover this when you mentioned it in the paninternational video, well presented as usual though.
Damn, she wasn't flying the takeoff for the first (unavoidable) crash in which kerosene was put in the water injection tanks killing both engines, and she wasn't flying in this crash either :(
Great video as always! May I suggest possibly keeping us up to date on current happenings of air or new disasters? It could be some that could be posted during The week? Just a thought. For example Today in Texas 2 airplanes collided during an airshow.
I was a electronics tech in the RCAF. I specialized in a mobile RADAR system...but it was literally an "airport in a can". We had every and ALL modern GPS and satnav. But to THIS day..any ATC, pilot, or tech that's worth their salt will tell you that the NDB and ADF are the absolutely fundamentally most important aviation piece of equipment in an airport or aircraft. They are a fundamentally simple reliable instrument that will get you to safety from anywhere and any direction when all modern systems fail. They aren't antiquated. To this day... if an NDB at a RCAF airfield is not working ALL aviation is grounded for the day. And if an ADF is non functional in an airframe..that airframe is grounded till repaired or replaced and flight tested to be serviceable
The pronounciation of Schleswig-Holstein was on a native speaker level, well done. But the two pilots' family names are pronounced differently. The "E" at the end is not silent. The Italian "e" for and probably is the best advice for it.
Would love a breakdown on the Dallas air show mid-air collision today once more details come out. Not too often that we hear about a crash involving WWII aircraft in 2022, it could be a super interesting video.
great video but dang thats it CFIT i was thinking it was more dramatic as the pan international incident and one more thing is that it that they were coming steep in their landing approach huh, the case of uwe is also strange and its rare for a pilot to survive once and not able to survive another one . i had immediatedly recognised this crash once i read the title
How unlucky were those involved! First the co-pilot who survived one crash to die in another. Then the politician who escaped a plane crash to die of overdose months later. Unbelievable!!
Since you've covered largely ignored accidents before, do you think you could cover the Trans Service Airlift L-188 crash of 1995? It's the deadliest accident involving the L-188 with 141 fatalities but there's not much to discuss regarding it.
Same pilot, more than one incident You should SOOOOOO cover military aviation incidents that arent necessarily combat related Coz I swear there's got to be really interesting cases us viewers just aint heard of yet
Isn't this the same reason for the crash of Air Algerie 702P in Coventry a few years later (striking the radio mast due to being too low)? It does seem slightly odd that you would have such a tall obstacle so close to a runway, then again if you were on the proper glideslope you should be ok.
Yeah, but that airport specifically had no ILS. I think that's necessary to get the correct glide slope. And in aviation safety "if no mistake is made" is generally not considered sufficiently safe.
How do people already comment on the content and quality mere minutes after the upload when the video is like 20 minutes long? That's something that I'll never understand.
I can't remember the details, but when I lived in Papua New Guinea in the early 1980s I was at the Aviators Club at Port Moresby's Jackson International airport one Friday evening (it was actually illegal to sell alcohol on Friday in Port Moresby so at the Aviators Club you rented a glass from them that would be refilled every time you went to the bar for free, at least until the beer ran out). Anyway, one Friday everybody was talking about a certain hack pilot that managed to crash a few days earlier for the SECOND TIME THE SAME DAY. Crashing twice during your career as a pilot is bad enough, but twice the same day tends to indicate the pilot shouldn't have flying in the first place.
great videos,do you have any info on two high profile airplane crashes ,the 1963 camden pa 24 that took patsy cline,hawkshaw hawkins and cowboy copus and the beechcraft bonanza that took buddy holly ,ritchie valens and j,p,richardson?
Barschel became rather infamous. He "gave his word of honor" that he didn't do anything wrong (which, if I recall, turned out to be wrong), and the CDU leadership told the press they "stood behind him". These phrases have become understood as "oops, this is going to be a big scandal" by (parts of?) the general public, mostly because of Barschel. Though I do wonder how many people today still remember. I should add that if I recall correctly, his opponent back then, Engholm, became the first openly gay minister-president in Germany.
This crash does raise one question - why did the antenna have no lights to be visible on such night-time visual approaches? Just please don't say it was considered too low for needing that - this close to the runway it surely proved not too low. It's one thing when the pilots descend too low without seeing the runway, but completely another problem when the runway is clearly in sight - and nothing indicates the straight path isn't clear.
Good video,i am just astounded that a beacon mast must be in a spot where a accidental low aproach is going to cause the aircraft to be on a collision course with it, sounds a bit illogical to me??
I remember seeing stuff of the Barschel scandal and his death in the news as kid, but can`t remember anything about this crash, which definetly must have been in the news too. Odd how memory plays, I guess.
I seem to remember a report of a female American news reporter who had been in a helicopter accident and survived but was killed some time after when another helicopter she was reporting from also crashed.
This comment is not specifically about the facts of this crash but a general observation regarding viewing aviation videos. I am not sure how it is in the rest of the world, but having flown commercially for decades in the United States (admittedly mostly domestic flying) I have never once seen either pilots seated at their assigned duty stations in actual flight operations ever wearing either their long sleeved uniform jackets or their uniform hats and certainly not both at the same time. When I see videos depicting supposedly actual airline pilots doing their jobs and wearing long sleeved uniform jackets and/or uniform hats while seated and conducting flight operations my mind automatically downgrades the validity of what I am seeing. -Respectfully
They say the truth hurts and the facts are just so brutally honest and blunt "controlled flight into terrain" when the investigators write that down there's no emotion there's just observation.
It seems like a really bad idea to put a tower on a direct approach path to a runway. I know the jet was lower than it should have been, but why put it directly in line with the approach? Reminds me of the 2022 crash at Burley Idaho where a plane struck a row of 100 foot tall smokestacks on top of a potato processing plant directly in line with the runway approach.
So there were 3 occasions with a pilot surviving a crash and than being lost in another - one korean who crash landed a 707, one latin america pilot who died in cargo plane. But this is beyond - a passanger survived as a sole survivour to die months later..
Odd that the cause was determined to be CFIT when they actually hit an obstacle. Also, pretty daft to stick a sixteen metre lattice mast for a NDB right in line with a runway!
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I loved this video alot!. btw. are you going to cover the crash of iberea flight 610?
Very good video, I like the calm manner of narration very much. However, you got one thing wrong: Uwe Barschel was found dead in a bathtub in a hotel room in Geneva, Switzerland. This was officially ruled a suicide but there are loads of circumstances that do not add up.
Oh disaster breakdown could you do a double feature of Lapa flight 3142 and delta flight 1141 next Saturday? Both flight crews broke the sterile cockpit rule but the Lapa flight crew broke a rule of no smoking in the cockpit, Both flight crew failed to do their checklist correctly, and however the difference of Both flights is how the crews react on take off when things start to go wrong!
@@zr550b yeah I'm Avington that one lined trimmed out. Looks like I made a mistake somewhere, give it an hour or so to process
Well, I'm not sure about interesting but certainly tabloid, even sensationalist and verging on the Gothic!!
Despite the short time only which elapsed between that awful accident and the politician's subsequent death, I also don't ascribe anything suspicious to the circumstances surrounding it. His actions regarding the dirty tricks with the media, suggest someone under huge pressure and not handling it well. Presumably, no foul play was discovered in the events pertaining to his death by drug overdose which was deemed suicide by a coroner? I say presumably because I don't recall specifics being given.
My main concern however, is that it is not stated - and is therefore not possible to discern from this video - what happened in those crucial minutes and seconds before the wing struck the radio mast. Dare I say on other such channels, even if unknown, I think mention would have been made about whether either of the pilots were familiar with Lübeck Airport - and thus with the requirement to maintain a minimum altitude of at LEAST 53 feet (realistically 60, in order to have even the slimmest margin) on the approach. It also either wasn't stated exactly or again,I don't recall, other than something like that the radio mast was situated "several hundred yards" back from the start of the runway.
It IS clear that this was an extremely old school, hand flown landing. However, even flying like that - and even in an older (first?) generation Citation - that leaves a fairly wide number of variables which might apply. I'm not a pilot, but I recall in certain ILS approaches, a chart is available to the pilots which advises what altitude the the airplane must maintain at the corresponding distance (to both keep clear of the terrain and manage the plane down at an acceptable angle which from recollection is usually 3 degrees). Furthermore, there are various of such parameters which can be preprogrammed into the aircraft computer - thus relieving the crew of the manual task of controlling at least one, sometimes more, of such parameters. The auto throttle, for example, might adjust the engine power so as to manage the speed on final approach, leaving the crew to the glide slope and direction only.
Likewise, it wasn't specified whether there was a CVR and/or FDR and if so, whether or not they were recovered and if so, the level of damage they sustained and what, if anything, they revealed about the decisions and actions of the crew in those critical pre-accident moments, whether the crew had deviated from standard procedure and if so, why. We also get to hear nothing about the analysis of the wreckage and whether it had been determined if there was anything wrong with the aircraft. Finally, the most we are given about the weather is that it was "moderately bad" which gives no specific indications as to what the cloud cover and visibility was, whether it was raining and how heavily and how windy it was.
Perhaps such technicalities are not the aim of this channel and that, indeed, it is much more about the human interest - indeed the dramatic high opera - that roils under the smartly uniformed, well groomed, clipped-accented external appearance of those involved
I read The Times - and go to Covent Garden - but I never mix the two by taking The Sun. I wasn't able to find what might be called a mission statement so if someone wants to say what the channel's approach is, great but for now I remain unsubscribed....
The first officer involved in this and Paninternational flight 112 crash reminds me of a Brazilian captain by the name of Gilberto Araújo da Silva, who was also involved in 2 air accidents, and barely escaped death in the first crash after an forced landing.
The first crash happened in 1973, while flying a varig 707 approaching Paris Orly airport, the plane's rear lavatory caught fire which became uncontrolled and toxic smoke spread through the plane. The flight crew concluded that they wouldn't reach the airfield and put the plane down in a field few miles away from the airfield. With 134 people on board, only 10 crew and 1 lucky passenger survived, captain da Silva being one of them. (This is an accident that I hope would become a future video topic due to chaotic moments onboard the plane and bravery of the flight crews.)
Approximately 6 years later, captain da Silva was one of the flight crew onboard varig flight 967 out of Tokyo Narita airport, the flight was operated with a 707 cargo variant. Moments after takeoff, the plane, with its valuable cargo and crew, disappeared over Pacific ocean, for days, search and rescue workers can only found some floating debris and oil slicks. The wreckage was never found and the reason for the disappearance was still unknown.
That sounds like a great suggestion. 👍
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Sounds like this is going on my list of videos to make!
Varig Flight 820 for the first one?
Had to pause the video to read this juicy comment. Thanks 👍🏽 Interesting info 😜
Great video and presentation! Just one small correction: Barschel was later found dead in the bathtub of a hotel in Geneva, Switzerland, not on the Canary Islands.
Oh really, I must have found a source that was wrong, my bad.
@@DisasterBreakdown He supposedly was on his way home from vacation on the Canaries with a stopover/sleepover in Geneva
Correct. Hotel Beau Rivage, his death very likely a secret service job.
Huh. I never knew that Barschel was involved in an air crash. But then again his later actions overshadowed all that happened beforehand i guess.
Quite interesting that a guy I'd involved in a suspicious plane crash shortly before he get Epsteined.
i remembered elisabeth friske from the previous video, surviving one crash only to end up in another a few years later, very unfortunate. great video, as always!
Wow, how unlucky can you get to be involved in not one, but two crashes? The small consolation is that she died doing what she loved. Not many of us get to do that. Keep up the great work and thanks so much! Cheers!
As a german I can say that your prononciation was actually really good!
Thanks!
When you are to pronounced umlaut letters then its tough...
@@skylineXpert His pronunciation of "Lübeck" was correct, in the same sense that "Cologne" isn't pronounced "Köln" in English. The English name of the city doesn't have the umlaut.
The pronunciation of "Schleswig-Holstein" is the same in German and English, and his was fine.
@@renerpho her
Gut gemacht! ;)
Ernest Hemingway and his wife survived, as a passenger, two plane crashes. On two successive days! He was severely injured in the second crash.
German here. Your pronunciation is perfect. I am very impressed. I love this channel dearly. Keep up the amazing work !
"If I had a nickel for every time I was in a plane crash, I'd have two nicklels. Which isn't a lot but it's weird that it happened twice"
I was in a two "controlled" crashes in heavy aircraft where one feels pretty helpless about the outcome. Everyone walked away unscathed, but rhat's two too many for this guy.
Hats off to your pronounciation skills! This was pretty much the best "Schleswig-Holstein" I ever heard from a non-native speaker! 👍
Friskk instead of Friske?
As a native of Lübeck, even that one was good.
Have heard worse from other Germans. :D
@@160rpmPronounced ‘Frisker’ in English?
Also, is Uwe (as in Barschel) pronounced ‘Ooh-vey’ or ‘ooh-vuh’? I’ve heard it pronounced both ways, even by Germans. 🤷♂️
I like how the narrator, whatever their name is, has the same calm voice no matter what, even when panicking about proper pronunciation of small suburbs
her name is chloe! :)
Yeah, Chloe is the best!
@@tessiepinkman True, their plane crash investigations are the best!
Damn, the photo of the damage looks terrifying, imagine being someone on board the aircraft.
Added 57 seconds ago. HA! What a timing :) BTW - thank you for covering this accident, this is another one I was not aware of! It's great you recently tell us about rather unknown disasters. It's an additional asset to your channel. 🌟
Welcome, Early One!
'Schleswig-Holstein' pronounciation was spot on! ✅ Great video BTW. Cheers!
Its a really hard one too!
unrelated to this story but when I was deploying to Iraq in 2006, we were boarding a 777 and as I was walking onto the plane I made a comment that it was the biggest plane I'd ever been on/seen up close. The flight attendant heard me and asked me what my name was. I begrudgingly told her. As we were taxiing she came to the back of the plane and asked where I was at. I cautiously raised my hand and of course all my buddies and other Marines on the flight started cheering acting like I was getting ready to become part of the mile high club. She told me to follow her and she lead me to the cockpit. She told me that they had talked to air traffic control and had gotten approval for me to sit in the cock pit during takeoff. So I got to sit in the seat behind the captains seat and put the headphones on and listen to ATC and the pilots talk to each other. It was a whole other experience seeing the runway come at you instead of out of a side window. One of the coolest experiences I've ever had.
As a former Marine aviation crew member on the C-130 aircraft,we used to call landings controlled crashes.By the way,I was in a helicopter crash in the Indian Ocean in 1980,so I get a little antsy when I see that a crash is going to happen.
Best part of my Saturday, thanks Chloe!
Thank you for covering this crash. I was so looking forward to this video, since the Paninternational one.
Partly because I wanted to know what happened to Elisabeth Friske and partly because I live around the area of Lübeck.
I love flying to the Lübeck Air port and to know exactly what it actually looks like there us amazing.
You actually pronounce every thing really good. ^^
I hope there are more videos about German accidents coming some day.
Thank you for making my Lunch break better.
Thanks for watching, glad you liked it :)
Wow. Great video and I've just rewatched both this and the Paninternational Disaster Breakdown. Both excellent, and so tragic that Elisabeth Friske had such misfortune - especially since the earlier incident seemed to be outside the flight crew's control. I appreciate that this episode is in many ways a homage to Friske and it was presented very respectfully - thank you!
At the same time I wondered why the NDB was where it was and presented such an obstacle - I've heard there were poor weather conditions, but can anybody shed light as to why this seemingly avoidable accident took place other than the crew flying into the structure..? It seems incredulous to me that it should have been placed so close to the threshold.
I wasn't aware about this crash. Thank you!
i look forward to these now. good content , well packaged/delivered.
cheers DB
Thanks, stay tuned for next week because it's looking like a big one!
If every 250 fatal car accidents had 1 video, we’d have 5400 videos a year… so aviation is doing pretty well.
Great job as always!
Your pronounciation of "Schleißweg Holstein" was on point!
Not plane related, but Violet Jessup is always a fasinating read, survived two ocean liner sinkings, and a collission during wartime.
That is some incredibly amazing survival odds, especialy given boats at that time in the 1910s/1920s/1930s. Now I'm wondering also what the aircrat equivalent is to her feat, actually
Interesting, thanks
I don't expect one to be in a position for a third crash to happen. If they even get over the first one, stumble into a second and live.
I'd personally be done with air after a second survival xD
@@psyolytesaille I read an interview a while ago with a woman whose parents had been onboard Estonia when she sank in 1994. Her dad survived but not her mom.
10 years later her dad was vacationing in Thailand over Christmas and New Year. Yup. The Boxing Day Tsunami. That is incredibly bad luck to be involved in two such major disasters. He was among those who perished in the tsunami.
Your pronunciationis quite spot on and the video is very interesting, keep it up!
Love Your Videos Man
Thank you for yet another great video!
Thank you! I have heard about Frisks 1st crash but hadn't found any videos about this until now.
I live in Lübeck and was 16 back then. I remeber this incident quite well.
Greetings from germany,
Marcus
@K4nzler , ich erinnere mich an drei innerhalb meiner Lebensspanne: Eine Bronco OV-10, die damals für Zielflugdarstellung eingesetzt waren, ein Sportflugzeug und die Citation aus diesem Video.
Was ich bisher nicht wußte war, daß die gleiche Copilotin beteiligt war wie bei dem A7-Vorfall 1971.
Wow this was intriguing as all get out DB! Another great video
A German here: Your pronunciation is indeed very good 🙂
Thanks!
Maybe one point: The „e“ at the end of the names is short, but not silent: Friskɘ, Heisɘ 🙂
Came here to say that! 😅
Fascinating story and excellent presentation. Sad ending for all.
a good video to watch while I eat, love your work :)
Enjoy!
Wow, i'm German and of cause knew about Uwe Barschel and the conspirancies regarding his body beeing found in a bathtub in a hotel in Zurich, but i had no idea he survived a massive plane crash just month earlier :O And the prononciation of the german words was great by the way ;)
Absolutely loved your interesting presentation love your Chanel you are the best
as a orgin from schleswig-holstein i can say u pronuced our state correctly :) and thanks for the content🔥
Nice! Thanks!
The problem with pre-gps and ndb approaches.. Especially under Imc.. Is how many things can go wrong. The problem with ndb approaches is that it just gives you the direction to the station.. Not the course. If there a significant cross wind you have to keep correcting manually by changing the heading. Another problem no dme.. So that's why they descended too early.. Can happen with a headwind. Accidents like this would be almost impossible nowadays... Thanks mainly to gps. Another cause was the placement of the antenna. Usually these are 5 miles out. Added benefit being as you pass over the station, you know it's time to descent. I think this crew sort of had the runway in sight.. Descended too much too early and of course being nighttime didn't help.
Would the airport have had papi lights then? They had to be horribly off the glide slope.
as someone who actually lives in Lübeck your prononciation is pretty good
Amazing work!
Thanks a lot!
@@DisasterBreakdown 9:25 Hey disaster breakdown, I enjoy seeing your videos, just wanted to give you a heads up, you misspelled assassination as assignation
@@someonee3186 Ahh thanks! I'll have that fixed right away
Your pronunciation is pretty good indeed! One error slipped in though: Barschel died in the hotel Beau-Rivage in Geneva, Switzerland, not the Canary Islands!
Yeah I'm having that one line trimmed from the video, give it an hour or so and it'll be processed out. Clearly I messed up somewhere there.
@@DisasterBreakdown Wow! That level of conscientiousness is part of the reason why I love your channel! Cheers!
A bit early this time huh? Also didn't expect you'll actually cover this when you mentioned it in the paninternational video, well presented as usual though.
Im impressed by your German pronunciation!
Damn, she wasn't flying the takeoff for the first (unavoidable) crash in which kerosene was put in the water injection tanks killing both engines, and she wasn't flying in this crash either :(
Great video as always!
May I suggest possibly keeping us up to date on current happenings of air or new disasters?
It could be some that could be posted during The week?
Just a thought. For example Today in Texas 2 airplanes collided during an airshow.
I was a electronics tech in the RCAF. I specialized in a mobile RADAR system...but it was literally an "airport in a can".
We had every and ALL modern GPS and satnav. But to THIS day..any ATC, pilot, or tech that's worth their salt will tell you that the NDB and ADF are the absolutely fundamentally most important aviation piece of equipment in an airport or aircraft.
They are a fundamentally simple reliable instrument that will get you to safety from anywhere and any direction when all modern systems fail.
They aren't antiquated. To this day... if an NDB at a RCAF airfield is not working ALL aviation is grounded for the day. And if an ADF is non functional in an airframe..that airframe is grounded till repaired or replaced and flight tested to be serviceable
Good video bro
The pronounciation of Schleswig-Holstein was on a native speaker level, well done.
But the two pilots' family names are pronounced differently. The "E" at the end is not silent. The Italian "e" for and probably is the best advice for it.
a b17 and a p63 just collided a few hours ago in Dallas TX... sad news and it seemed like a really crazy accident.
I've seen the videos, horrifying stuff
Would love a breakdown on the Dallas air show mid-air collision today once more details come out. Not too often that we hear about a crash involving WWII aircraft in 2022, it could be a super interesting video.
I was born in Lübeck but never knew about this!!
The whole video gives me Final Destination vibes…
A really tragic story!
Nice content and channel. I highly suggest you use de-essing on your audio, both by using a pop filter and by postprocessing the audio.😊
Soon as you said her name, I literally cried out OMG!!! 😮
great video but dang thats it CFIT i was thinking it was more dramatic as the pan international incident and one more thing is that it that they were coming steep in their landing approach huh, the case of uwe is also strange and its rare for a pilot to survive once and not able to survive another one . i had immediatedly recognised this crash once i read the title
How unlucky were those involved! First the co-pilot who survived one crash to die in another. Then the politician who escaped a plane crash to die of overdose months later. Unbelievable!!
Your German pronunciation was almost perfect!
Since you've covered largely ignored accidents before, do you think you could cover the Trans Service Airlift L-188 crash of 1995? It's the deadliest accident involving the L-188 with 141 fatalities but there's not much to discuss regarding it.
As soon as you mentioned she survived the first crash my brain thought "Final Destination " 😮
Same pilot, more than one incident
You should SOOOOOO cover military aviation incidents that arent necessarily combat related
Coz I swear there's got to be really interesting cases us viewers just aint heard of yet
Isn't this the same reason for the crash of Air Algerie 702P in Coventry a few years later (striking the radio mast due to being too low)? It does seem slightly odd that you would have such a tall obstacle so close to a runway, then again if you were on the proper glideslope you should be ok.
Yeah, but that airport specifically had no ILS. I think that's necessary to get the correct glide slope.
And in aviation safety "if no mistake is made" is generally not considered sufficiently safe.
You did a good job with the pronounciations!
How do people already comment on the content and quality mere minutes after the upload when the video is like 20 minutes long? That's something that I'll never understand.
Some people love to comment on UA-cam videos very shortly after they were being uploaded
@@sunnyfon9065
Which makes no sense at all
They are probably patreons and get the videos earlier
Attention seeking behavior possibly.
You pronounciation of Schlewig-Holstein was pretty good ^^ .
I can't remember the details, but when I lived in Papua New Guinea in the early 1980s I was at the Aviators Club at Port Moresby's Jackson International airport one Friday evening (it was actually illegal to sell alcohol on Friday in Port Moresby so at the Aviators Club you rented a glass from them that would be refilled every time you went to the bar for free, at least until the beer ran out). Anyway, one Friday everybody was talking about a certain hack pilot that managed to crash a few days earlier for the SECOND TIME THE SAME DAY.
Crashing twice during your career as a pilot is bad enough, but twice the same day tends to indicate the pilot shouldn't have flying in the first place.
Sometimes, the most intriguing thing about plane incidents aren't the plane, but the pilot
No im not a sociopath
I am commenting this on May 31st, 2023
it has been 36 years since this crash
R.I.P
All these years later, and the hypocrisy of someone like that dying of a drug overdose still makes me shake my head because it STILL happens.
Pronunciation is good 👌
you nailed that Schleswig-Holstein!
That's tragic as hell.
as someone from Schleswig-Holstein / Rendsburg i can say u did say it right :D
great videos,do you have any info on two high profile airplane crashes ,the 1963 camden pa 24 that took patsy cline,hawkshaw hawkins and cowboy copus and the beechcraft bonanza that took buddy holly ,ritchie valens and j,p,richardson?
Actually he died under questionable circumstances at the Beau-Rivage Genève, Genf, Schweiz not on the canary islands
Great video!
Can you please do ariana afghan airlines 727 crash in 1998 or kam air 904
Barschel became rather infamous. He "gave his word of honor" that he didn't do anything wrong (which, if I recall, turned out to be wrong), and the CDU leadership told the press they "stood behind him". These phrases have become understood as "oops, this is going to be a big scandal" by (parts of?) the general public, mostly because of Barschel. Though I do wonder how many people today still remember.
I should add that if I recall correctly, his opponent back then, Engholm, became the first openly gay minister-president in Germany.
This crash does raise one question - why did the antenna have no lights to be visible on such night-time visual approaches?
Just please don't say it was considered too low for needing that - this close to the runway it surely proved not too low. It's one thing when the pilots descend too low without seeing the runway, but completely another problem when the runway is clearly in sight - and nothing indicates the straight path isn't clear.
In no way was the crash related to the death of the politician a few months later. The bucket isn't used to carry items in it.
Good video,i am just astounded that a beacon mast must be in a spot where a accidental low aproach is going to cause the aircraft to be on a collision course with it, sounds a bit illogical to me??
I remember seeing stuff of the Barschel scandal and his death in the news as kid, but can`t remember anything about this crash, which definetly must have been in the news too. Odd how memory plays, I guess.
its like final destination in real life , first the copilot survived a crash and later on died on another crash , then the politician
I seem to remember a report of a female American news reporter who had been in a helicopter accident and survived but was killed some time after when another helicopter she was reporting from also crashed.
The first officer survived the first crash but sadly gets killed in the second crash
This comment is not specifically about the facts of this crash but a general observation regarding viewing aviation videos. I am not sure how it is in the rest of the world, but having flown commercially for decades in the United States (admittedly mostly domestic flying) I have never once seen either pilots seated at their assigned duty stations in actual flight operations ever wearing either their long sleeved uniform jackets or their uniform hats and certainly not both at the same time. When I see videos depicting supposedly actual airline pilots doing their jobs and wearing long sleeved uniform jackets and/or uniform hats while seated and conducting flight operations my mind automatically downgrades the validity of what I am seeing.
-Respectfully
You could make a movie out of this crash, how everyone who was on the plane was destined to die in one way or another..
Very cool 🙂
Great at your job
As a German, your pronunciation was pretty good. Not perfect, but very good. ^^
Moin from Itzehoe, Schleswig-Holstein. ❤
0:34 Wow, until she turned around, I thought she was CGI, she's so pretty! ☺️
They say the truth hurts and the facts are just so brutally honest and blunt "controlled flight into terrain" when the investigators write that down there's no emotion there's just observation.
Final Destination af
Hi Disaster Breakdown, will you please make a video on Malaysia Airlines Flight 2133?
It seems like a really bad idea to put a tower on a direct approach path to a runway. I know the jet was lower than it should have been, but why put it directly in line with the approach? Reminds me of the 2022 crash at Burley Idaho where a plane struck a row of 100 foot tall smokestacks on top of a potato processing plant directly in line with the runway approach.
So there were 3 occasions with a pilot surviving a crash and than being lost in another - one korean who crash landed a 707, one latin america pilot who died in cargo plane. But this is beyond - a passanger survived as a sole survivour to die months later..
I feel like surviving a plane crash is god’s way in telling to stop flying for a little bit.
next video about an Egypt Air flight? 👀
Wooow fascinating...
Odd that the cause was determined to be CFIT when they actually hit an obstacle. Also, pretty daft to stick a sixteen metre lattice mast for a NDB right in line with a runway!
Final Destination at work.
In one of I Shouldn't be Alive episode one of the survivor survived 2 aircraft crashes...in less than 24 hours