this is excellent work big homie and well-researched like you even posted the picture of the article ahead of the Doggfather release that mentioned the track "Head Doctor"--that's excellent research and hip-hop journalism. Also dope to hear the samples of some of the tracks you mentioned and pointing out the other albums and alternate formats in which these tracks were released. Zalute!
I always say Tha Doggfather should’ve been a concept album. With a darker tone with songs like Downtown Assassin, Street Life, Sixx Minutes and Midnight Love. After the intro the single Tha Doggfather comes on perfectly.
@@MrByronscott me too. Snoop is my favorite rapper but he needs guidance when it comes to making albums and with song selection. It’s a shame we only got 1 album completely overlooked by Dr. Dre.
Like the new format. Saves you getting blocked and banned etc. Best of luck and look forward to more of these little documentaries with some of that other gold vault shit you have.
Listening to Head Doctor OG makes me wonder if this is Snoop biting Pac again. It was reported by Nanci Fletcher that Daz, Snoop and Kurupt got ahold of a dat with a unreleased 2Pac album called Thug Style in 1993. This album had Gotta Get Mine, Lie 2 Kick It and Thugz Get Lonely Too (Em vocal version) on it. Pac got pissed and scrapped the entire project. If you know these songs you will know Pac says "mind on my money and money on my mind" on Gotta Get Mine. Lie 2 Kick It uses the same beat as Gz and Hustlas and Thugz Get Lonley Too samples the same prince song as Snoop's Head Doctor. Some could be a coincident but Gotta Get Mine and Gin N Juice isnt.
6 mins in and I already heard tracks so far better than 75 percent of what we got on Doggfather. Imma have to piece together this intended version to have a new listen.
That song is my jam. It should have been on the album. They probably couldn't clear the sample in time. I have this song on Snoop's Hits CD, but cannot find it on streaming
I remember when Snoop got on Westside radio after this release in early 97 that he was going to release an EP that would include Midnight Love and would also include Snoop Bounce remix include Rage Against the Machine.
All these songs that were left out could have literally been a new snopp doggy dogg album for 1997 like the original "Doggumentary" that was originally never released in 97 by death row records. There was ENOUGH songs for a 1997 double cd 2cd set release on death row!
Doggfather wasn't great, but I listened to it a lot when it came out and some of the tracks are cool. Pretty much everything from Snoop in this period of time (on the actual album and the leftovers) sound kind of like unfinished demos. I feel like if Dre was still there he'd have picked the best ones, had the beats replayed and improved, mixed better, got Snoop to rap with more energy, and added better choruses to a lot of the songs. The IDEA of Doggfather was great, there was an interview he did at the time where he mentioned using a live orchestra and I remembering thinking it would be so dope, like Doggystyle, but with a Godfather, Italian vibe.
There's a version of the track "change gon come" featuring Krayzie bone. I used to have it on cassette back '98. Been looking for it everywhere online and can't find it
The Vapors BC "remix" is the OG and the DJ pooh version is a remix. I will survive, gangsta walk, c walkin, just watching ft 2pac, change gon come, may i, county blues, usual suspects, tommy and eastsidaz were also con sidered for the album at one point appearing on early tracklists. Work it out was for Shaqs album.
There was another song called just watching feat tha dogg pound and 2Pac. Snoop should put the tracks street life, midnight love and just watching on the album.
Snoop wasn't in control of the song Just Watching it was 2pacs and Mc Hammers and street life was taken by the 2pac estate which is why it didn't make the album. Midnight Love is just a trash track compared to the other two.
When Tha Doggfather came out, 2Pac's songs were still under the control of Death Row Records! Snoop didn't want Street Life in his album because 2Pac dissed Badboy there, and Snoop was on a reconciliation tour. and to midnight love that's a matter of taste, I like it. If there had been street life, just watching on the album and maybe a few other tracks, the sales figures would have been significantly higher, that's just my opinion
@@ahmetkaya-ne6rm No the estate had already filed a lawsuit which is why they didn't use certain 2pac material. Snoop definitely wanted that track his album wasn't that good that was a hot track 2pac dissing bad boy didn't stop anything Snoop still made and was featured on the video for Wanted Dead Or Alive. It was just easier to leave the track in the vault instead of fighting with 2pacs mom.
Tupac Estate received control over 2Pac's material between 1998 and 2000, because until the end of time and better dayz Afeni and Suge Knight were executive producers. Only after these albums was Tupac Estate the sole controller of the material. Otherwise Afeni wouldn't have had the songs from Gang Related published. or daz dillinger's album track initiated. why should she have wanted dead or alive published and not street life??? Gridlockd's soundtrack is from 1997 and Tha Doggfather is from 1996. Check out the interview with Reggie Wright Jr. on bomb1st there he says because 2Pac dissed bad boy he removed it from the album because he wanted to distance himself from this beef. and again about the wanted dead or alive song that's on a soundtrack so snoop couldn't do anything about it that it wasn't on the album because it wasn't his album
Snoop didn't write half his rhymes on "Doggystyle." He wrote his own rhymes on "Tha Doggfather." The songs left off of the album may have not been entirely written by him, which would explain their exclusion. This album was an entirely different project from the first.
Das Album war so schon eine Enttäuschung. Die Leftovers hätten das Album noch weiter abgewertet. Street Life ist eine ausnahme und hätte das Album aufgewertet.
I want to listen to this but I know I’m going to be pissed at all the great songs that should’ve been on it. Hell I remember the few that leaked years ago that made the mixtape circuit for years and going wtf Snoop?!
Tha doggfather is only bad if you compare it to doggystyle. It was a step back but by no means it was a bad album. If it was snoops first album and then he released doggystyle, tha doggfather would be liked much more
Very good analysis. I got into rap in 97 and actually heard Doggfather before Doggystyle and I think it's a good album (though a bit too long, can definitely remove some tracks) with some bangers such as Groupie, Gold Rush and Up Jump Tha Boogie.
If anyone's interested I remade the Doggfather album using some of the tracks talked about here, did some new mixes on existing tracks, etc. You can find it on my channel or here ua-cam.com/video/CynyXjzGOr4/v-deo.html
Album would have sold better had they waited until December to drop it and had Street Life with 2Pac as a single. Even though the song would need reworked for a single as Ital goes on way too long. But they could have moved him to the end of the track to get to Snoop and Pac faster
When I was in high school in 97, I made a perfectly edited version of that song that greatly shortened Prince Ital Joe’s long ass part (forget his name)
There are some bangers on your list that should have definitely been on Doggfather. I will never understand why or how Snoop released such a trash album in 1996. Almost like it was intentional
"with my mind on my money and my money on my mind" Snoop / Daz Gin n Juice from Pac's line "I got my mind on my money, money on my mind" Pac dissed, "Nigga Fuck that Gin n Juice, bring me some Henessy" - 2pac / Henessy@@chuuuchify
![Doggystyle 13 Leftover Tracks [Breakdown] - Snoop Doggy Dogg Doggystyle 30 Year Anniversary](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/9LgLov3Zcsw/mqdefault.jpg)
Very well done video! It would be great if Snoop would actually release all these songs together
Thanks man👊
this is excellent work big homie and well-researched like you even posted the picture of the article ahead of the Doggfather release that mentioned the track "Head Doctor"--that's excellent research and hip-hop journalism. Also dope to hear the samples of some of the tracks you mentioned and pointing out the other albums and alternate formats in which these tracks were released. Zalute!
Thanks man appreciate that!💯
Thanks for this!
The more I listen to Doggfather era Snoop nowadays, the more I appreciate LT Hutton & DJ Pooh productions
I always say Tha Doggfather should’ve been a concept album. With a darker tone with songs like Downtown Assassin, Street Life, Sixx Minutes and Midnight Love. After the intro the single Tha Doggfather comes on perfectly.
Damn you made that sound good! I would have loved to hear it that way
I agree with you i can feel the same vibe of "the don killuminati 7 days" and they record at the same period I think
WHOAAA 😮
@@princejunior5753 yeah I wanted to see where Pac would’ve taken his Makaveli persona. Same with Biggie when he became Frank White.
@@MrByronscott me too. Snoop is my favorite rapper but he needs guidance when it comes to making albums and with song selection. It’s a shame we only got 1 album completely overlooked by Dr. Dre.
Like the new format. Saves you getting blocked and banned etc. Best of luck and look forward to more of these little documentaries with some of that other gold vault shit you have.
Listening to Head Doctor OG makes me wonder if this is Snoop biting Pac again. It was reported by Nanci Fletcher that Daz, Snoop and Kurupt got ahold of a dat with a unreleased 2Pac album called Thug Style in 1993. This album had Gotta Get Mine, Lie 2 Kick It and Thugz Get Lonely Too (Em vocal version) on it. Pac got pissed and scrapped the entire project.
If you know these songs you will know Pac says "mind on my money and money on my mind" on Gotta Get Mine. Lie 2 Kick It uses the same beat as Gz and Hustlas and Thugz Get Lonley Too samples the same prince song as Snoop's Head Doctor.
Some could be a coincident but Gotta Get Mine and Gin N Juice isnt.
Gotta Get Mine and some other tracks on Mc Breed album was produced by Warren G. Snoop Best friend and band mate of 213 group.
interesting stuff thanks for sharing your point of view 👊
Loved The Doggfather album. Funky beats from DJ Pooh and dope raps, def my 2nd fav Snoop album.
Same I love that album it's gets to much hate....
I agree it’s a dope album that grew on me over time
7:50 2Pac also used that sample of the beat from Prince's song for the beat of the original version of his song Thugs Get Lonely Too
6 mins in and I already heard tracks so far better than 75 percent of what we got on Doggfather. Imma have to piece together this intended version to have a new listen.
Thanks!
Wow. Excellent research and journalism. Keep it up
Thanks bro!
Excellent work. Also, wasn’t “Midnight Love” featuring Daz and Raphael Saadiq also originally recorded for “Tha Doggfather”?
That song is my jam. It should have been on the album. They probably couldn't clear the sample in time. I have this song on Snoop's Hits CD, but cannot find it on streaming
I remember when Snoop got on Westside radio after this release in early 97 that he was going to release an EP that would include Midnight Love and would also include Snoop Bounce remix include Rage Against the Machine.
Very interesting , well done & appreciated.
I bought the
“Dead Man Walkin “ album 💿 in UK 🇬🇧 back in the day. Great album. Cheers from Taiwan 🇹🇼
All these songs that were left out could have literally been a new snopp doggy dogg album for 1997 like the original "Doggumentary" that was originally never released in 97 by death row records. There was ENOUGH songs for a 1997 double cd 2cd set release on death row!
Great Video. We need Dogg Food next
Yup will be uploaded soon
Snoop's last great album. Anything after that was hit and miss for me.
The first nolimit was fire too
Last meal?
@@FLIP238 what? thats easily one of his worst. unless you mean his 2nd and 3rd no limit albums, those are some of his best albums
I agree.
Change Gonna Come was a dope track
Definitely a dope track🔥
This is great thanks for sharing. I had no idea about the Shaq song.
Theres a Shaq ft. Nate Dogg Rap Song That Slaps.
Doggfather wasn't great, but I listened to it a lot when it came out and some of the tracks are cool.
Pretty much everything from Snoop in this period of time (on the actual album and the leftovers) sound kind of like unfinished demos. I feel like if Dre was still there he'd have picked the best ones, had the beats replayed and improved, mixed better, got Snoop to rap with more energy, and added better choruses to a lot of the songs.
The IDEA of Doggfather was great, there was an interview he did at the time where he mentioned using a live orchestra and I remembering thinking it would be so dope, like Doggystyle, but with a Godfather, Italian vibe.
Thanks for sharing your point of view 👍
2pac" this aint living "was a Reference track 4 snoop 4 tha doggfather
I still have the snoop smokefest in VHS somewhere in the shack.
Love these videos bruh 🔥
Thanks 🙏
Word on the street one of the rarest tracks of snoop, very hard to find before bomb 1st get this on UA-cam in cdq
Usual suspects feat Threat was one you missed. Threats verse was instead used by snoop on snoop bounce
I still liked the Dogg father album regardless of the criticism
Me 2
@@deathrowlegacy & it aged pretty well with time. It's still better than a lot of the bullshit out today anyways
There's a version of the track "change gon come" featuring Krayzie bone. I used to have it on cassette back '98. Been looking for it everywhere online and can't find it
Make that 2nd , I can’t find that version so it does exist
O dam
Never heard about that before....krayzie on Change Gon Come would be fire🔥
Snoop Dogg definitely deserves a double album with old school g funk 90's vibe like All Eyez On Me.
Doggfather couldve been better
It was a good album but it really didnt have any MAJOR hits on it
The Vapors BC "remix" is the OG and the DJ pooh version is a remix. I will survive, gangsta walk, c walkin, just watching ft 2pac, change gon come, may i, county blues, usual suspects, tommy and eastsidaz were also con sidered for the album at one point appearing on early tracklists. Work it out was for Shaqs album.
Thanks for sharing this info 🫡
There was another song called just watching feat tha dogg pound and 2Pac. Snoop should put the tracks street life, midnight love and just watching on the album.
Snoop wasn't in control of the song Just Watching it was 2pacs and Mc Hammers and street life was taken by the 2pac estate which is why it didn't make the album. Midnight Love is just a trash track compared to the other two.
When Tha Doggfather came out, 2Pac's songs were still under the control of Death Row Records! Snoop didn't want Street Life in his album because 2Pac dissed Badboy there, and Snoop was on a reconciliation tour. and to midnight love that's a matter of taste, I like it. If there had been street life, just watching on the album and maybe a few other tracks, the sales figures would have been significantly higher, that's just my opinion
@@ahmetkaya-ne6rm
No the estate had already filed a lawsuit which is why they didn't use certain 2pac material. Snoop definitely wanted that track his album wasn't that good that was a hot track 2pac dissing bad boy didn't stop anything Snoop still made and was featured on the video for Wanted Dead Or Alive. It was just easier to leave the track in the vault instead of fighting with 2pacs mom.
Tupac Estate received control over 2Pac's material between 1998 and 2000, because until the end of time and better dayz Afeni and Suge Knight were executive producers. Only after these albums was Tupac Estate the sole controller of the material. Otherwise Afeni wouldn't have had the songs from Gang Related published. or daz dillinger's album track initiated. why should she have wanted dead or alive published and not street life??? Gridlockd's soundtrack is from 1997 and Tha Doggfather is from 1996. Check out the interview with Reggie Wright Jr. on bomb1st there he says because 2Pac dissed bad boy he removed it from the album because he wanted to distance himself from this beef. and again about the wanted dead or alive song that's on a soundtrack so snoop couldn't do anything about it that it wasn't on the album because it wasn't his album
@@chitownmytownofficialonean6067 dude is Tripping midnight love is a great song
You are doing God's work.🙏
Street Life is an outstanding track.
yeah it's🔥
Theres a Street Life Version featuring Daz Dillinger.
Correct
Niiiice.
This is a GREAT video. Thank you
Thanks man
Street life is written and produced by Daz as many of Snoops songs were. 2pac ofcourse wrote his verse in 15 minutes as usual lol 😂
Excellent video. Sub’d
Glad to hear!
I'm glad Quik flipped Doin Too Much cause that version wasn't it at all. Sounded Demo like
Already said i be on the red eye...
What does that mean?
@luckycharmchico4197 Ya fat, ya Black, ya wack, yo style is tore up
Plus you got one dead eye
Blueberry is my favorite because Snoop wasn't I on it he was just talking at the end I just love that beat that was fire and the people was rapping on
Yeah that beat is 🔥🔥🔥
It’s baffling the songs that were left off this album, it could have been SO much better than what it was.
Yeah it be a number of things. Mostly Forgot they recorded it.
It was already very good
Snoop didn't write half his rhymes on "Doggystyle." He wrote his own rhymes on "Tha Doggfather." The songs left off of the album may have not been entirely written by him, which would explain their exclusion. This album was an entirely different project from the first.
@@Subway-j9w People are free to believe what they want to believe.
I think ones like Head Doctor and Street Life were left off due to sample clearing.
Tha Doggfather was so bad, I am afraid to listen to the leftovers
Das Album war so schon eine Enttäuschung. Die Leftovers hätten das Album noch weiter abgewertet.
Street Life ist eine ausnahme und hätte das Album aufgewertet.
Street life also have a version with just daz n prince ital joe
Correct
I want to listen to this but I know I’m going to be pissed at all the great songs that should’ve been on it. Hell I remember the few that leaked years ago that made the mixtape circuit for years and going wtf Snoop?!
Tha Doggfather is a great album. what's with these fools talking down on great music. 6 minutes is cool af
💯
I'm still yet to hear this album
3 good tracks on this album and that's it the rest is trash imo . Vapours , Blueberry ,& Downtown assassin's
No good tracks on the album
Tha doggfather is only bad if you compare it to doggystyle. It was a step back but by no means it was a bad album. If it was snoops first album and then he released doggystyle, tha doggfather would be liked much more
True 💯
Very good analysis. I got into rap in 97 and actually heard Doggfather before Doggystyle and I think it's a good album (though a bit too long, can definitely remove some tracks) with some bangers such as Groupie, Gold Rush and Up Jump Tha Boogie.
what about "G U Looking For" with L.V.?
Tracks more recent, after 96
If anyone's interested I remade the Doggfather album using some of the tracks talked about here, did some new mixes on existing tracks, etc. You can find it on my channel or here
ua-cam.com/video/CynyXjzGOr4/v-deo.html
Great work mate.
This album is considered a classic like it or not! This is in my top 5 Snoop albums.. the album also sold very well it's first week
I use to hate it but it's grown on me
Album would have sold better had they waited until December to drop it and had Street Life with 2Pac as a single. Even though the song would need reworked for a single as Ital goes on way too long. But they could have moved him to the end of the track to get to Snoop and Pac faster
It's definitely a dope album
What about that track eith Rampage. That had to be recorded atound this time
HIT ROCKS IS DOPE!!!!!
Classic 🔥🔥🔥
Wasn't the song Just Watching featuring 2Pac, Tha Dogg Pound and Charlie Willson also supposed to be for Tha Doggfather album
I thought it was supposed to be on One Nation
He should've dropped Doggystyle 2 instead of keeping it on the shelf
Dre left
This album was a huge disappointment after Doggystyle. Snoop doesn't have the same energy he had on the Chronic and Doggystyle.
Doggystyle was his best album In rap history. It still gets airplay to this day.
True, whole different vibe but Doggfather is still a dope album but nothing like Doggystyle
He made a mistake not adding street life with 2pac
He did 13 total tracks with pac only 5 are leaked
When I was in high school in 97, I made a perfectly edited version of that song that greatly shortened Prince Ital Joe’s long ass part (forget his name)
@@hailhydra5061 we all took Joe off lol
There are some bangers on your list that should have definitely been on Doggfather. I will never understand why or how Snoop released such a trash album in 1996. Almost like it was intentional
Doggfather is a great album
It's an okay album, not trash definately not great. His first no limit album it costs to be a boss I would say is trash.
Doggfather was terrible it’s like he forgot how to rap his flow was garbage
@@illatekfoh wit that
@@illatekdoggfather is a classic album
We need compilation albums of that outtakes as in good old internet times..
Makaveli the don
Just watching with 2pac should have made it
Not a fan of this album! I was very disappointed!
Pac also did that Prince sample smh snoop a hater frfr
calm down.
That's the beat Snoop got pissed at Hurt M Badd about. He thought he was stealing the beat.
"with my mind on my money and my money on my mind" Snoop / Daz Gin n Juice
from Pac's line "I got my mind on my money, money on my mind"
Pac dissed, "Nigga Fuck that Gin n Juice, bring me some Henessy" - 2pac / Henessy@@chuuuchify
This is narrated by AI
Tha doggfather is the best snoop album PERIOD!!! Super underrated af
NO WAY NO HOW‼️‼️‼️ that album had no hit songs, no legendary lyrics, no fire beats and no energy. The album was mixed horribly
@@DaMixWizarddude you don’t know what you are talking about the Dogfather album has some bangers you just aren’t listening right
No radio hits but whole album bops hard af.... one my favorite of all time... n I've never been snoop fan ever
@user-bn8qq4gf6w the album was mixed horribly. And the sequence of the songs was horribly done
@@DaMixWizard you are delusional
What a disappointing album. He fell off after doggystyle and never came close to that again in his career 🤦♂️
Snoop is a west coast embarrassment
Yeah no one cared about this album when it came out or since
Weak
The original Doggfather was one of the weakest albums ever
That album was 🗑️
It just wasn't that good 🤷♂️
That CD was so garbage I tossed it into the garbage. Money wasted. But it didn't deserve a spot in my collection by then.
Snoop trash
Nothing was gonna save this album 🤦🏾♂️👎🏾👎🏾
I'm still yet to hear this album