Exploring a ghost town in the middle of London
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The Aylesbury estate used to house 11,000 people. Now it's a ghost town. I went exploring and met a couple of people who still live there. Just 2 of the remaining 15 properties still occupied.
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I grew up on the Aylesbury estate. It had a terrible reputation. The overhead footpaths were demolished because police said criminals were able to get from Walworth rd to the Old kent road without touching the pavement. Yes the flats were rather spacious but the rodent and pest infestation was a BIG problem. Entire basement flats were converted into giant dustbin shoots, so the rodents were imbedded within the fabric of the blocks. I have some happy memories mainly of playing out on the blocks with friends during the summer holidays and playing at the advent playground at Burgess park. But ultimately it is a shit hole and people deserve better. Oh and the Bill used to film regularly in the area lol that was quite exciting
Is this where Nil By Mouth was set?
@@joedurantguitar1447 just watched the trailer and it could be. Big brutalist structures
Burgess park is quite nice now.
Wasn't this what they called the 'Jasmin Allen' Estate, or something like that.
......With the old Gloucester, North Peckham and Camden on the other side of the park....that really was the "Bronx of South London" back in the 80s and 90s.
There is no housing shortage. Just greed people who price properties out of people's reach.
If u come into this country and don’t work, jump back on the boat u came on!
We don’t need more leeches
@@ClemboRight. So there’s the message, paupers: The toffs don’t care about you, so stop cleaning stuff and doing all the running around in hotels, bars and restaurants. Let ‘em live in a filthy city. Move to Newcastle, it’s much nicer anyway
Exactly that 😢❤
And Landlords don't negotiate, it's take it or leave it, look at today's high streets, empty shops that will never see trade ever again, take it or leave it.
@@Clembo Just like that, you must be a Tory voter ?
Yeah, this is when a youtube video grows from being just a vid to being actual journalism. Well done mate.
Cheers.
The people you interviewed had made wonderful homes ❤
I'm from NYC but I lived in London for 10 years. Moved there when I was 11. By the time I was 16 I was homeless living in the bando and selling crack. Ayelsbury estate was one of the places I stayed. I got separated from my family at that point and I was by myself. Im not even from the UK and I had constant culture shock on these London estates. We used to ride our bikes 12 floors up it felt like we were flying you know everything was connected with bridges and ramps. Heygate was the same way. We traveled everywhere on bikes and easily got away from the cops riding through the estate. I got so many crazy stories from this estate. Kinda feel a weird sense of grief seeing it like this. Although tbh it was a horrible place. It was a massive death trap and you could always feel this sense of doom in the air, me and my crew being up in those hallways and stairwells and I'm seeing flats that have their windows smashed in with plastic bags in there and people still living there. It was dirty, smelled like piss and there were flowers and candles in the hallways for people who were killed there, the cameras where ripped out, the lights were busted, it smelled like piss and the lifts were a scary rollercoaster ride. I got stories about those too.
Wow. What borough of London is Aylesbury in? Thanks for sharing that. How is your life now?
Southwark Borough... I was pissed about Heygate, especially since it sat empty since my childhood. I worked on the new developments to bill the bills, it disgusted me within.
Given the unaffordability of housing, I'm not surprised there are holdouts. I'd move in, given the chance.
Too right, literally no were to go anymore.. 😢
You obviously have never lived in a shitty council block before 😒
It’s hard to believe but true, once upon a time 11,000 people living in that huge council estate and now just 15 people holding onto their homes until the bitter end. And what will they replace them with, new builds which will be unaffordable for the 15 people that are left living there and anybody else that needs a roof over the head but cannot afford the unaffordable high rents in London. It’s an absolute disgrace because traditional Londoners, Londoners who have lived in London for generations, building communities are being displaced and push further out of London altogether. London’s distinctive character from the past is now becoming a relic, what’s left of it, and in its place rich folk are moving in, or property developers who care more about making money then building communities.
That's the way it's been allowed to go for the past four decades,unfortunately. Greed trumping need at every turn.
perfectly said
This seems to be happening across London. I have friends in an estate in Acton who refuse to leave, surrounded by the rubble of other blocks. Granted, the estates weren't picturesque but they were home. They were (once) affordable. The council are demolishing entire estates and telling communities to move out, often far away. For those who brought their flats, they are offering below market value. When the new properties are built they will be too expensive for the people who lived there. It's tragic.
It’s Brexit, Farage is fine with this so is Boris
@hudson7354 it's much more than just that.
80% of housing in the UK was owned either directly or indirectly by Russian oligarchs 2 years ago. Unsure of that percentage now, but that has a MASSIVE effect on the housing market.
@@st20332 80 percent ? It wasn’t
@@hudson7354this started years before Brexit, the EU was no help to ordinary people in this country. Its why they could be convinced to leave, because whether a farmer half the country away can easily whip foreign labour like slaves to pick strawberries is no concern to you when the government is forcefully tearing your home down
Most Acton estate getting knocked down half been build other half crumb rockes😮
Brand new un affordable homes
My friend used to live in here. She held out and they moved her to a house converted into two flats in Dulwich.
The homes they will replace it with inside won't be as spacious.
I miss Chiltern House... so much. It is part of my life and in my awareness forever. I was 13 years old when I went to see a friend there and the very first time I saw the lifts entry with multi coloured tiles I was impressed. I only have good memories from there in the 90s early 00s. I would like to have pictures (not seen) and something from that building. Thanks for your video.
This is obviusly your most popular video, you should do a little series exploring and documenting the estate before it is gone.
Them flats look really good inside and very spacious l am not surprised they don't want to move there in a great location in London just a stone's throw away from the central London they are working class people who have lived there most of there life's worked hard to keep a roof over there head and payed there bill's and tuck pride in their home and themselves why should they have to move there getting old and look to be happy but because they are council tenents they have to move out for rich developer's to bully them out of there homes because there not rich enough to live in that part of London when 50 years ago when most people lived and worked around London and put there hard earned money into the community it just shows how greedy the world has become and how the rich push the poor around and make there life's difficult and create hardships and misery not good
It was one of the most Toughest area's in south London most people from there had mental l health problems. The way they treated girls around there was disgusting
@@hayleystratus7713 hello there Hayley I would say it was very difficult living in a area like that everyone packed in like rats and living on top of each other l bet there was a lot of drama and crime and people with lots of ego it's not nice to hear that they treated ladies badly was you a resident of that area l would say there was some really nice folks who lived around there but a lot of bad folks and bullying circumstances and a dog eat dog world it's really difficult living around them circumstances when folks are trying there best to keep there heads above water and pay there rent and bills
@@stevenatkinson4526 Hiya yes there are good and bad in every area I've met lovely people around and not so nice people often I had problems with people I didn't know or a Friend of a friend. Even until this day most of these people haven't changed their mentality of pettiness bullying. I grew up not too far from this estate but on the occasional times I was there wasn't pleasant
@@hayleystratus7713 hello again heyley what deck aid did you grow up around that area was it the 70s 80s 90s bet you have seen a lot of changes cos London is always changing with different development's and projects l was working a few streets from st Paul's cathedral this time last year and it has changed so much since I was last working in London in the 90s there's developments going up all over the place you can see where they spend the money in this country l live not far from Nottingham and work in construction and there's developments but wow there's loads of work in London every where you look l have worked around Hendon and Croydon Romford Norbury and and I always enjoy working in and around London there's plenty to see and do do you still live in and around London or have you moved out of the area cos I know it's expensive to try and keep a roof over your head in that part of London they don't want working class people there any more it's all about rich people living in them areas now adays
Yeah these people who have been moved have gone to other council homes in the Borough and other areas of south east London and it has put pressure on availability because we have lost all of the stock on the Aylesbury which just need doing up and so many people need somewhere to live. The council won't replace this estate, it will be private homes and housing associations with so called affordable homes which aren't affordable
Imagine getting stuck in one of the lifts without a phone signal. Nobody would know you were there.
Aren't they supposed to be fitted with a phone system to 999? All other council blocks do I'm sure it's a requirement now
@@Nick_80599 we did when i was little haha
@Arthur Knight used to get stuck in the lifts all the time when we lived on Camden councils Strawberry Vale Estate in Finchley in the early 90s the lighting would fail too, it's now part of peabody trust and its still a bad place to live
Always run the stairs 😅
Excellent content, super professional. Surprised when I saw just 50 subs! Keep it going chap, the algorithm led me to you so your work is paying off.
Good heavens! I KNEW that old Irishman, when we were young! Unmistakable. Haha :)
This is so high quality,! You deserve way more subs. This is such a shame really, this seems to always be the case though. Instead of maintaining buildings and upgrading them through the decades, it's always that they want to start fresh and demolish everything without regard for the lives that were built in there. It's just rebuild, neglect, demolish over and over
This was the perfect length of time for a video with a lot of information packed in well and communicated very well!👌
I lived nearby for 33 years and spent a lot of my teen years hanging out there. Lots of good and bad memories of the place!
Same here. 25 years for me. I have fond memories, it definitely had a worse reputation than it deserved.
@@arthurknight2091 I've never lived in Greater London but as a 12-year-old I read a magazine article in 1977 decrying what had happened to the noble profession of architecture in the then three decades since the Second World War,and claiming architechts had gone on a 30-year "ego trip". This was some seven years before then Prince Charles's famous speech about monstrous carbuncles at Paternoster Square,of course. A number of housing estates and public buildings were highlighted,complete with full colour photos showing them in all their glory. Several places,included to illustrate a particular point,were from other parts of the country (I laughed at the ceiling of the main interior building at East Anglia University" becoming known as an "egg box" by its students),but most of the structures discussed were in London. One was the National Theatre,the newest structure in the feature having been completed (a GLC project) the previous year; its appearance was described by the authors of being like a concrete carrot half pulled out of the ground (we went on some school trips to London's theatreland,and I distinctly remember some of us almost getting lost in the alien concrete otherland that was the South Bank one dark December night in 1979,in the days when the area was considerably less inviting than it appears now). But the piece de resistance as a focus of the article's criticism was,you guessed it,the Aylesbury Estate,accompanied by a big double spread picture of the very edifice our respondent on this video was in,set for effect against a particularly vicious-looking stormy weather entering-twilight sky (in a pre-personal computer age I wonder how long they waited for the right weather to get that shot just perfect). So I guess the place's reputation was starting to go before it even back in the late 70s.
I used to live in that block, Taplow.
Massive flats. I never had an issue with rats on one of the upper floors.
They were nassive flats. The door between the lounge and kitchen was really wide, I had it permanently open, open plan. The wall to wall window gave a veiw from the London Eye down the Thames to almost London Bridge.
There was a child who fell from one of thise windows, the ind would grab them and they would flip violently.
The heating and water for the whole estate would come from one central boiler, it was old and broke down frequently. The council did have plans for a new, green on site power plant/boiler. I think the developers cane in with cash and redevelopment plans that took the effort and finances away from them.
Prior to Grenfell there was a fire at a smaller low slung block in Camberwell. A needless tragedy.
The new advice was to stay in doors and wait to be rescued. We were given fire doors to each flat that would stand an hour, once the flames reached you. The landings had several self closing doors kn them to help.
This was a pointless joke from the get go.
The old badly fitting windows were draughty, smoke could get in. The doors in the landings wouldn't close from new and there was a 6" ventilation gap between floors, which made the doors pointless.
There was a fire whilst I lived there. There was a stair case at either end and one in the middle. I looked out the window, located the fire, and headed for the stairs furthest from the fire. Out safely and quickly.
Thanks for the insights. This puts it into context why this place is outdated and unsuitable for modern living.
@althejazzman It could have been so much better. The plans were approved from the original architects drawings. The budget was then cut. Instead of building a smaller estate, they went ahead cuttings corners along the way. It's really easy to spot if you look closely, inside and outside the flats. It wouldn't have been ideal though, even on full budget. Too many people on one small footprint. People need space, physical but also psychologically. Too many lives unfolding in the same spaces.
@@stuartchapman5171 I've read so much about this estate and similar misguided post-war housing efforts.
@@stuartchapman5171......why are they built without balconies???? Every single flat in Sweden has a balcony, new and old. You do need outside space and that's the answer....and fire escapes😢😢😮
@@carolinejohnson22 because we are undeserving scum, fodder for the factories, and battlefields if required. This is just one of the many slum clearance projects that have failed over the centuries. Mainly because we're perceived as being lesser members of society.
You’ve got the voice, mannerisms and face for presentation so don’t get discouraged from anything keep getting the videos out there and it’ll come good for you especially if you’re ever thinking that it won’t, the odd longer videos might help a touch
Thanks for the tips!
@@xtraross always welcome pallie
Great video, especially with the little interviews you managed to gather. Informative, concise socio-political journalism. And yes I agree, pastel pink won't age well at all! I dropped a sub😉
Thanks - glad you liked it - and thanks for the sub!
In 2010 I visited the now demolished neighbouring Heygate estate by my brother who was a Bobby at the time.
It was strange turning the corner from the busy Elephant and Castle to a creepy virtually abandoned plot of land.
This was great to watch and I feel bad saying that considering the plight the people you interviewed were going through, it was just interesting to see these people's lovely homes and how much it means to them, enough to make a stand to their council...
I was part of the team installing all the lifts when it was built, also did Nth Peckham estate. Great times and not bad flats in the beginning. I was living in Kennington at the time.
That could be a brilliant place for older people, with someone on duty in reception & a community room for coffee & meetings.
I love this estate. I grew up on the other estate on the other side of Burgess park. Both estates have a lot of sentimental meaning to it's residents, regardless of what you read about it 😇
So true. You are right. I am one of those that have that deep sentimental meaning ...
If only more tenants refused to leave. The area would improve and halt the destruction of social housing.
Most of the time they can't even afford the little rent... tbh the council most likely made it difficult for people last 20 years or so, n u just got a few people left who know their rights and can afford to stay on etc etc
this is stupid, the place needs to be demolished for modern well insulated housing for the people that have to live and work in london
@@MrSpiderman1321 modern housing in london is crap over priced and only designed to last 10 years before it starts falling apart, you may not like these concrete slabs but they are all designed to last 50+ years with minimal maintenance.
@MrSpiderman1321 ...and where do you think these people worked?... mostly in London, and they lived in London.
2:29 - "Why do architects wear black? Because they're the funeral directors of the working class." I'm one, and I refuse to work for big companies that do this to ordinary people. I was born on one of these, albeit in a different country, I know what a community these estates are. On the other hand you have the former head of the Royal Institute of British Architects' Ben Derbyshire and his practice being under scrutiny for playing a part in removing ordinary people from their homes by being involved in the redevelopment of the Aylesbury Estate, which speaks of itself quite enough.
Nevermind structural engineering, it's social engineering to remove societies in London and elsewhere and bring in soulless money and empty homes to foreign investors.
Its social cleansing or some call it gentrification. As the right to buy, increase in population and lack of building of social housing all contributed to social housing becoming (particularly tower blocks of flats) more and more reserved for the homeless, people leaving institutions such as prisons, problem individuals or family's, it's community's deteriorated into crime and anti social behaviour over time.
This and the fact that mass unemployment as we deindustrialised in the early 80s hit these estates hard.
Solution? Demolition and clearance. Use a physical solution to tackle a social solution.
Regeneration, gentrification, socially cleanse, design out ordinary people. If you have got the land in a key area, it's not hard to build the type of apartments and charge the appropriate rent levels to guarantee the type of clientele ie tenants.
I live very close by! Be very careful when exploring those staircases and hidden areas though.
Gangs lurking there?
@@dw4525 squatters
Yeah, move out of a building that's stood for 70 years and go live in a "new-build" that will be facing demolition after 10 years - if you're lucky! There are people in Camden who are facing loses of £850K as their NEW properties are scheduled for demolition, while hundreds are STILL putting down their names for IDENTICAL buildings that are still in the process of being built, and will GUARANTEED be facing demolition within a decade!
Plus new builds often have shoddy workmanship, and I bet the new flats offered to the remaining tenants won’t be as spacious or come with plenty of storage.
They built them cheaply, using substandard materials.....then, were not properly maintained by the Local Authority for years. They wondered why those that lived there, hated living there.
Decent Victorian/Edwardian housing stock was demolished.....in order to build this. Unbelievable. Alot of that old housing stock hadn't suffered bomb damage from the war. But like the estate which replaced them, they weren't adequately maintained after the war, so they fell into a state of despair and were eventually demolished.
Exactly the same thing is happening all over again. The story of mismanagement and failure to maintain. This story repeats itself over and over again with 1960's built housing estates all across the country.
modern flats they are selling for 400k+ are even worse then what was built in the 60s
Looks a dump from outside but the inside look amazing and spacious, especially for London. I can understand why they don't want to move
i almost feel ashamed at being surprised at how lovely those homes were. interesting people too.
Another post war council block that’s ugly on the outside but homely and spacious on the inside that will be knocked down for a mix of social and private, tiny 2 bedroom flats. Happening up and down the country yet we wonder why there’s an ‘affordable housing’ crisis and why more people are at the mercy of private landlords…
I always thought these flats looked lovely inside. I had friends who lived there years ago. I use to live on the Heygate estate, which has been demolished now and they've rebuilt on the land. The council are always going on about not having any properties for families, yet all these homes are left empty! How many other councils are doing the same thing....bloody disgusting
Interesting video - I like these stories about old brutal council estates and how the last residents cling on before the bulldozers turn up - I must admit that part of London in Walworth is a bit sketchy - I have lived in Kennington near the station in my early working years with a former partner on a council estate - We got lucky as Lambeth Council gave us a flat but hey ho that was back in the 80s and I stayed there until the mid nineties - I liked the place and had some great times there - I guess those who lived on the Aylesbury Estate have mixed emotions and memories about their time living there.
Why doesn't this guy have more subscribers? This is better content than most youtubers with 100k subs.
Wonderful film. Powerful stuff, beautifully captured.
An EXCELLENT presentation - Thank you - but this is beyond Deplorable!!!
Interesting, Subscribed!! One digit closer
Used to live down the road from here in the early 2000, place was massive and a little daunting to be fair. Crazy to think it's nearly empty now.
Really interesting video and well put together liked and subscribed to your channel. That seems an incredible place and feel sorry for the people that still live there quite isolated but they seem happy hope they can work something out for
For them
This is a transfer of assets from the working classes to the extreme rich.
ROFL .... like a single person in those flats actually owned one, wanna bet on the percentage of dole dossers where living there?
@@PasqualItizzz Dole dossers, so judgemental!
@@G4RY1159 That's right, I'm judging people on benefits, who's lives are paid for by tax payers, not to be the victims of property theft.
And don't gimme that rubbish, everyone knows we have dole dossers in this country. I know families that taught their kids to get pregnant for the free house.
@@PasqualItizzz I know what You meant
@@PasqualItizzz Sorry you are wrong, most people on benefits are actually working fulltime, but the wages do not meet the bills, as salaries have lost so much value after all these years of neoliberalism.
Have they fixed the 'panel problem ' with the flats that are replacing the estate 🤔. I think some of the new ones will be demolished before the Aylesbury 😊
Haha was working on that estate couple days ago it is an eerie place
02:20 Funny how one of the refusers is an old Anarchist. In Dutch we have a word for Anarchists "dwarf", can't say that I disagree though. The only reason Hanoi is filled with historical buildings is because lots of families refuse to have their houses demolished, this didn't happen in Beijing and most old houses have disappeared.
Wonder if she's the one with all the crap on her door about "Saving about the Aylesbury".🤦♂️
Disgusting tee shirt.
I would love to know where did all those eleven thousand people move to?! Probably dispersed all far out of the area? I bet those left also aren’t being offered anything comparable to the lovely flats they have now.
We were offered local council flats, or could have chosen any council area we liked. We were all promoted to first refusal just to get us out as quick as possible. Viewed a couple but wasn't keen, didn't want to rush so waited a year and got a view on a new build just around the corner. We were third in the queue to accept or refuse (as it was a new build). Luckily the guy ahead of us didn't show up for the viewing and the next one in the queue didn't like it, we took it. I think we got very lucky.
@@akisaki4327Are you still paying the council rate of rent in the new build flat from being rehoused?
@@ssonkogarvey Rent in Wendover was about £150 a week by the time we moved out, £900 a year Council tax, that was for a 3 bedroom. Where I am now is £170 a week for 1 bedroom, £1700 a year Council tax. Moved in 2016.
Where is this estate? Wonderful bit of filmmaking mate. Brilliant editing! Just a really well made video!
South East London. Just off Walworth Road between Elephant & Castle and Camberwell.
My aunt & uncle moved into the 18th floor of a block of flats in Glasgow back in the 1960s. We kids LOVED visiting them! The elevators (we played in these, going up & down!) & the awesome view from their front balcony & the communal one at the back! Once we had a very bouncy little ball which we'd chuck off the balcony to our pals down in the street! As my auntie said years later: "We just loved it. Our brand new, lovely home! And the VIEW!" I was always a bit nervous whenever I was on their balcony! But, of course, in its final years the apartments housed druggies & other undesirables, until they (& the 3 neighbouring blocks) were finally demolished a few years ago.
lovely comment, enjoyed reading it.
Those post-war estates are incredibly depressing. I lived in one for decades and in just sucks your vitality like a vortex. The new ones arent much better mind you, they look like theyre made of lego.
They're depressing because no one invests in them, they could be much higher quality, but there's no money in making that happen.
@@cd0u50c9 theyre depressing because theyre aesthetically ugly and poorly built. theyre soulless and anti-human. housing for automatons. drones. not for human beings.
Notice how these people have REAL GENUINE CHARACTER!! 😢Horrible how they have to be uprooted.
Taplow block ! thanks from Ireland !
The Rivers of London book Broken Homes fictionalises this place very nicely.
I love it! Very nostalgic look to it. Probably appears in a few films and such. And all that space! What a lovely home your kind host has.
Elephant & castle from the past. Where did all the people go?
Let’s face it .. what Southwark council have done to people and communities in this and surrounding areas is treacherous. Years of under investment allowing theses areas to fall way.. then sold off the land to pirates , sorry I mean private housing companies then evicted people by pricing them out of the area…
Well done. Interesting documentary. You deserve more views.
I used to drink in Camberwell but they stopped people parking under the bridge so a friend who lived on Beaconsfield Rd who didn’t have a car as many people didn’t then showed me areas where I could park and used to walk down to the boozer. Nice area well I never had any trouble.
I went to school near here. I always wondered why it was so empty and for years they’ve done nothing with it. Considering E&C is around the corner and they’ve been gentrifying it for years, even knocking down the shopping centre, idk why they haven’t housed people in the meantime. So much space for so many people who are currently homeless, it doesn’t make sense
good vid. awesome people you found
Amazing video! Thanks for sharing! Made me really curious to go have a look.
Greetings from Denmark (have a gf in London)
Can you please change your description, or put a caption in to say where the Estate actually is? Title says middle of London... and then you don't address where. I have some vague idea its near the Old Kent Road, but for people who are unfamiliar with the City, we get no context
Wendover is on Thurlow Street, both of them, one either side of junction of Kinglake street.
@@akisaki4327 Yes, and thank you, but that doesn't help the video
I used to deliver to that block, i did wonder y so many were closed off, there was a lot more than 15 when i was though it was like 2 years ago
Why not just give all the empty houses to the homeless?
The flats there aren't particularly livable. They were quite big but they have heating issues, mold issues and huge amounts of asbestos. The plumbing in most of them is terrible, and they can be very hot in summer. They cost a huge amount to remediate, and there is so many of them which is why its not very viable. I know these flats inside out. I worked in that estate and Heygate (and lots of other estates in southwark) for a period of about 7 years.
What alternatives were they offering these residents? I'd be interested to know. Maybe if they made them a better offer, they would move.
The area has been heavily gentrified- it’s now considered pretty much central London when 30 years ago it was south london. Congestion charge zone1. Those who lived there before stand 0 chance of being able to afford to live in the new place built after it 😂
Im almost positive there were scenes from Top Boy Summerhouse filmed here
Holy shit , i always wondered if they were still accommodated or not. Always walking past it. I had no idea that the estate was THAT old
Nice video man, appreciate the info
Footballer Reiss Nelson grew up here.
And QPR and Scotland footballer Nigel Quashi. I went to school with him. Pretty sure he lived on Missenden.
Just found your video. Subscribed. ❤
Thanks
Cool video
all new homes for the boat people
Their homes were really nice!
Yes, they were actually designed for quality living, not depressive shoe boxes like now.
Is there a real reason why these flats couldn't provide accommodation for many homeless people ? Are they mouldy and damp or containing asbestos or something else ? They two flats you were in looked very nice and the man's flat was well used by his stash. Wouldn't want to pack up either. When I hear about the mounting problem of people keeping up with London rents I think they should keep it in use. Or do they want to gentrify and make more money building show homes and selling off plan ? Thanks from Brisbane Australia.
I wondered why the don't use it too.
We have the same issues in Chicago.
It's called artificial scarcity. The council are in cahoots with developers so keeping these flats empty drives up rental prices in the area.
yep, homelessness is manufactured
because rich people can knock them down and build houses only a certain demographic of people can afford, pricing working class people out of their own cities.
I'm sure the houses replacing these lovely homes will be VERY affordable... not
RESIST, RESIST, RESIST don't budge an inch make them drag you out, I grew up on a large estate in London there was no problems with it, the council kicked everyone out and knocked it down now its fancy apartments, its reusing the foundations so its the same footprint as the former estate but only 20% of it is social housing. my estate was built in the 1960s-1970s, my parents were forced to move into a smaller council house that was built in the 1920s in a different area, its got rising damp with a terrible mold problem, you can't turn the hot tap on in the bath because theres a leaking pipe under the bathroom floor the council refuse to fix so showers only and ants come up inside the house during summer flying around and swarming around the door frames on the ground floor so the foundations are compromised. it took the council 4 years to fix the boiler too there was no hot water for 4 years outside of the power shower, the council didn't give a crap. there was nothing wrong with the old flat nothing none of the problems this 1920s one has, the council just wanted money from private developers and resented having to look after a series of buildings where most of the flats are privately owned via right to buy or paid for by housing benefit, and they shafted all the right to buy people too giving them way less then market value, deliberately trashed the area to devalue the properties before compulsory purchase orders were sent. NEVER GIVE COUNCILS AN INCH, FIGHT, FIGHT, FIGHT.
Which estate?
@@MuswellMunky I don't really want to give away information of where I grew up TBH lets just say West London.
@@GreatSageSunWukong Thank you for replying, that makes sense. There's a story to be told there, and lessons to be learned too. Broadwater Farm, Trellick, Woodberry Downs there are lots of examples for better and worse.
@@MuswellMunky Trellick costs a fortune to live in
Seriously shocking when there is a housing crises of people needing homes this happens
Am I the only one thinks new built gentrified flat blocks are so fucking soulless that we’d better keep those council blocks?
Leigh Park Hampshire is/was the biggest council estate in Europe 55 thousand people.
People knock Elephant & Castle but i love it. Once a cheap part of London to live now extremely expensive. Genifrication is great but only if you can afford it.
Great mini-doc, I liked the contextualising and interviewing. You might be interested in visiting the Church Street estate sandwiched between Regents' Park and Edgware Road since the area has been earmarked for 'regeneration' by Westminster Council.
I lived on the church St Estate,And Lisson Green. As a child..
Didn't Westminster Council,when led by Dame Shirley Porter in the 80s,deliberately close affordable housing to push the less-wealthy out of its borough in order to gerrymander the composition of the voting constituency?
I'm sure this stood in for the Jasmine Allen on "The Bill" at some point...
Wow lived on that block it was a nightmare
What kind of things went on?
The amount of people in the chat romanticizing living there or that the council shouldnt knock them down is hilarious, clearly havent lived in a shit hole block before, bunch of fools
I have a flat on the Aylesbury and it is no where near as bad as it was. Relatively safe compared to Brixton / Myatts field or half of Kennington if you ask me
That reminds me of Kieslowsky's "Dekalog" tv series 😂
The golf links or the old havelock estate in Southall
A face I haven't seen in a long time Wilky hope you're ok mate
The architect's of the 60s should win an award for being the worst urban planners in British history......everything they designed has slowly been torn down. Looking at that can you blame them.
Yeah, it really looks like shit. I can't imagine anything much worse to be fair.
the new builds are worse, you will find that out over the next 20 years
@GreatSageSunWukong The quality of some of the new flats are terrible but they are definitely more pleasing to the eye than that concrete monstrosity.
@@equinox95 They don't look so bad from the inside looking out do they?
@@GreatSageSunWukong Facts! Plus the old flats generally were much more spacious, every new build I've been to has been cramped
The new flats wil not be rented out at social housing rent but 'affordable rents' 20% less than commercial private rents. So flats they are in now rent for about £400 Pm (Guess) affordable rents will be £1200 pm with out a doubt
The council leaving 11,000 homes empty in London when there are people on the streets and on the waiting list families living in bed and breakfast the flats down and build brand new Council housing on it only or modernize the flats and the whole development and get people living there don't leave them empty indefinitely this should be headlines in the national newspapers
Bet inside hasn’t changed since 70s/80s
All major cities, are doing the same, including here Melbourne. It's part of a beatification. To make these places more attractive. Also as many countries came to realise, that to place so many people of a low economic ,mashed together, was bad news for everyone 😢, I wonder if the residents that remain have been offered a nice alternative 🤔.
Good work👍🏿
Went to school on the that estate the Chaplin center I was the one who painted the Charlie Chaplin mural, and the teacher can not remember his name, 💯🤗 that was in 1985
It seem like this only happens in Britain.... What a waste...
How haven’t you got more subs?🤯