London's Council Estates during the 1980s/90s | Social housing | Poverty | Vandalism
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- Опубліковано 25 лип 2024
- A documentary made up of 1980s and 1990s news footage clips from London's Council Estates, including Broadwater Farm, Mozart and Ronan Point.
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Thames News was the flagship regional news programme of Thames Television, serving the Thames ITV region and broadcast on weekdays from 12 September 1977 to 31 December 1992.
Footage References:
1. Mozart Estate:
TN-85-007-026.m4v | 00:00 - 01:36
TN-85-066-015.m4v | 01:36 - 03:36
2. Stonebridge Estate:
TN-SL-026-009.m4v | 03:36 - 05:11
TN-87-129-039.m4v | 05:11 - 05:38
3. North Peckham Estate:
TN-90-096-016.m4v | 05:38 - 06:19
TN-88-034-005.m4v | 06:19 - 06:39
TN-87-129-041.m4v | 06:39 - 08:57
4. Teviot Estate:
TN-84-044-031.m4v | 08:57 - 11:25
5. Trowbridge Estate:
TN-83-071-040.m4v | 11:25 - 13:20
6. Marquess Estate:
TN-90-149-007.m4v | 13:20 - 14:33
7. Digby Estate:
TN-87-122-022.m4v | 14:33 - 16:05
8. Waterlow Estate:
TN-82-092-027.m4v | 16:05 - 17:31
9. Stockwell Park Estate:
TN-85-014-005.m4v | 17:31 - 19:36
10. Thames View Estate:
TN-85-009-025.m4v | 19:36 - 20:55
11. Clapton Park Estate:
TN-85-057-013.m4v | 20:55 - 22:49
TN-85-069-022.m4v | 22:49 - 24:35
12. Ronan Point Estate:
TN-84-102-026.m4v | 24:35 - 25:59
13. Clapham Park Estate:
TN-87-155-036.m4v | 25:59 - 27:31
14. Doddington Estate
TN-83-071-006.m4v | 27:31 - 29:02
15. Perronet House Estate:
TN-86-116-025.m4v | 29:02 - 31:03
16. Milton Court Estate:
TN-86-115-015.m4v | 31:03 - 31:38
17. Chalkhill Estate:
TN-83-101-028.m4v | 31:38 - 33:03
18. Ferrier Estate:
TN-84-085-017.m4v | 33:03 - 33: 48
19. Willow Tree Estate:
TN-81-014-023.m4v | 33:48 - 35:48
20. Stamford Hill Estate:
TN-88-032-029.m4v | 35:48 - 38:13
21. Broadwater Farm Estate:
TN-87-035-030.m4v | 38:13 - 41:58 - Розваги
My working-class grandparents were moved into an estate like this when their Victorian terrace (inc the neighbouring streets) was acquired under the Compulsory Purchase Act in the late 70's. The whole neighbourhood was practically scooped up and relocated - 100 metres away - to a newly built complex. However, the new properties had no garden and were incredibly poky. Not much sunlight ever graced the place due to the small windows, tight corridors, and walkways; and the community spirit was decimated overnight. Once the tenants began to age, you had little old ladies on the 10th floor struggling to navigate the concrete steps because the communal elevator was busted. The place became a sink estate by the early 90's because the council would move in an antisocial tenant which disrupted an already depressive environment. It makes one wonder who designed these awful buildings. Likely some middle-class ponce who thought cramming in tenants - like prisoners - was the way of the future.
P.S. - the Victorian terraces were demolished and replaced with a gated community of upmarket detached and semi-detached housing. A high fence was erected which separated my grandparents' complex from their old grounds. Class divide if there ever was.
Division is the same as devide and conquer
They want us at each others necks to justify the way they respond
Complete war on the poor and typical Tory/Right wing - we are the winners and you are the losers nonsense
I fully agree, unfortunately if you rely on social housing you are at their mercy!
Oh what hideous places and they are still around us. I think my behaviour would deteriorate if you put me in one. Ugly in and out. I wouldn't put a pet hamster in a building like that. Not that I keep hamsters but you know what I mean. Anyway why does anyone build ugly buildings. It's criminal and we all have to look at them.
How awful ….
You won't get shows like this anymore. This stuff still goes on and isn't given much attention to any longer.
now they think we should be grateful for food banks
it's all down to people feeling to insula, they no longer feel like they can make a difference most people think there voice can not be heard, it's like the rabble in power now, with the parties they held while we were all in lock down doing the right thing. most people now think the government have the power to police themselves. when it should be us that tells them to go.
@@klumzytung7979 'Progress' apparently.
Most of these estates have now gone because the land is too valuable so they've been turned into ' property investment opportunities' for people on the other side of the world who will never set foot in the place.
True, although in today's market those flats would command private rents of £2,500 per month without the glass in the windows
No point in shows like this if it hasn't helped in 40 years
Remember when the news simply reported the news, and peoples opinions, in their entirety, with full context, straight from the horses mouth?
Who knew such a thing would be non existent 30 years later?
💯
I grew up on such an estate. It really was grim. Biggest mistake was the post war idea to put people in blocks of boxes. This in itself helped start the decline of British society.
How come high rise flats work for the rich? How come there are so many penthouse flats in London which sell for such vast amounts of money?
@Blue Skies Media it's not a conspiracy, look what's happening to iconic brutalist social housing blocks
@Blue Skies Media allowed
Oh just tickle the devils feet some more darling.
@Blue Skies Media This is absolutely spot on. It's glaringly obvious.
Bet there was some right old tear ups in the magic flute.
I lived right next to it and it wasn't that bad, that estate was notorious for it's glue sniffers and muggers...multiple stabbings, some rapes too, there was even some nutcase who blew himself up trying to fiddle his gas meter.
@@davidfelix2594 I can tell you a similar story on the Liverpool housing estate I grew up on. My dad had a friend who was in his 70's then, fought in World War 2 and hated any kind of 'wrongdoings'. His dodgy neighbours were fiddling the electric meter and using their power shower caused it to explode in the corridor. He grassed them up😱within weeks the poor man was in the mental hospital due to their threatening behaviour. His family thought he'd die in there and sold all his furniture and started spending 'their' money. He came out to an empty flat. He did get himself back on his feet again but only about a year later he died. The dodgy crowd were already in prison by that point for other reasons. Sad, sad story.
@@zetametallic Very sad story indeed, thank for sharing buddy.
I actually got chased from a glue sniffer with a machete on Mozart when I was 13 back in 85
@@adamdean988 tf is a glue sniffer
40 plus years later and most of these estates are still standing. Disgusting
Spot on! I was actually thinking the same!
Am I the only one who laughed when the guy said 'And someone put paint it again Sam.... which doesn't help' 😂😂🙈🙈
“The humour of the vandals doesn’t help...” lol
😂 🤣 🤣 🤣 😂 🤣 Brilliant
Omg I laughed so hard. Lol
Love the understatement of the guy
No😂
I used to live in Barnsbury estate and I thought that was bad. To be fair it was just a select few who made it hard for all tenants to live. I always found it funny how right next to the estate are 3 stories houses worth millions. The distinct divide between wealth and poverty is insane .
@@toxtethogrady6334 I heard it was pretty bad in the 90's and early 2000's. My dad told me that a new housing association bought up the estate and kicked out a bunch of tenants and refurbished each flat and stuff. But there was always someone setting the rubbish bin on fire so things didn't change all that well haha. I have a few mates who still live there and its a lot better. Less antisocial behaviour.
I lived on market estate too🤪
Toxteth O'Grady I bet I know u x
I lived in Southdown
I lived on the Barnsbury estate N1 there all crap and should be knocked down to make way for real houses.
I spent my childhood years living in terraced housing in Kentish Town, sharing with two other families, with only one lavatory and no bathroom. Of course the new estates offered better living conditions, not least having your own front door. Many of these new estates post 1960s were so badly designed, with raised walkways and underground garages; they were a disaster social breeding ground waiting to happen. The clowns who deemed such 'ghettos' fit for people to live wouldn't spend a night in these 'prisons'.
Our family lived in one of these estates in the 80s and 90s. It was really rough and always felt dangerous. Throughout the years my parents done better and we moved on in my late teens. I was fortunate to have the chance to study, get a good job, and make a good living. Even now as a millionaire, living in a nice house, nice cars, travelling 1st/business class, etc. I always think back to those days living on the estate. It makes me thankful for everything I have, and it reminds me that I can still be happy with less. Thank you for uploading this video.
Keep it up
@@free.palestine9296 thank you 😊
@@georginathompson3788 😘😘😘
@@free.palestine9296 ❤️
You never forget were you came from :)
The Stonebridge Estate reminds me of what Moss Side and Gorton, both in Manchester used to look like back in the late 1980s
Myself my brother & others I know were raised on a council estate...but we knew right from wrong.
We all got decent jobs.
And no matter how many O Levels you got at school, you’re still earning less than the most laziest and stupid kid who went to Eton. The system is stacked against the hard working, working class.
Me too!!.
My dad lived near there he knew people who lived there he said they were the one of the nicest people you’ll ever know
Wow. A time before we blamed poor folk for social problems... “it must be down to the design.” the clever lady says..!
The architects and designers of these crap estates live in houses on roads, with lovely front and back gardens. They should all be forced to live in one of these shitty flats for a year. Then let's see if they still think it's still so wonderful.
Exactly this.
It's called brutalist architecture.
I have always said this.
the problem is that you did not have a font or back garden...... no it’s the people usually parents not taking appropriate measures to raise there children, get given a flat for pennies and let’s now complain and garden space
You know, I’d love one of these “shitty flats” as you call them. A marked improvement on what I currently have.
At least London had a soul then, it's a lot worse now
The teen vandals of these reports are now the ones in their 40s and 50s who are running things and voting for the likes of Khan.
Soul lol
It was a struggle back then looking back even the north, I think we are thinking of the music and films that in some form gave an escape or our understanding which reflects what people felt then. If you look at the images of homeless people or people that didnt know where to turn to. The counter arguments seem in response with slander or condescending sentiment. I watched visual polika showing west german spending much on infrastructure in east germany and many in the west resented or dislike east, no matter if they struggle or not and haven't got the same infrastructure as the west. There is always comparison, there is always sentiment and there is alway divisions. We have soul but more or less wherever we are positioned. It's only ourselfs that tell how it is with our inter experience from the rest.
Ladbroke grove and Mozart, had a great community in the 1980s, I was part of it lol
These estates are crawling with chavs and drug dealers now
At least they spoke factually back then, the architecture affects behaviour and what can be done to improve it. If these reports had been created today it would be "look at these poor victims who are vandalising, and it's all because of racism and not enough taxpayer money being spent on them".
I remember being a housing officer on this Stonebridge estate in 1989. Time has really flown by.
Stonebridge estate was a no go back then. Had a friend on it and went once with him.
Rumour has it number 29 is still waiting for a job to be repaired
@@GabrielA-mw4in I gave you the job in 1989 but you invoiced for the job but did not complete it. Just cant get the contractors.
Ah... The council estates of the late 70's and 1980's.. a vivid reminder as to why my family emigrated. Strangely tho, I still call Hackney home no matter where or how far I've roamed..
Most of those concrete pre-fab built estates have thankfully been demolished now and Hackney has become very Gentrified...trendy...and bloody expensive!
Probably a very different place to what you remembered
Where did they emigrate to,my friend?
I grew up in a large council estate in SW London to which I return regularly because my mum still lives there. Although I have some very fond memories of growing up there, I cannot deny that it was a hard place to live. It still is; when I return I am shocked at the scale and type of noise in the block. Almost every time I am there there is loud hammering and banging, people shouting outside, general anti-social sounds and knocks.
I have also noticed that there are many more third-world people in the estate now. However, they are not solely to blame for the noise and bad behaviour; indeed, many of the people I observe causing problems appear to be English.
Although I have nostalgic and sentimental reasons to defend the estate I grew up on, I have to admit that when approaching the subject objectively, it was (and appears to presently be, worse even) a bad place to live.
Hello "architects". Well done for creating these monstrosities of hopelessness & despair!!!!! You most certainly should be made to live in these bleak & dehumanising prisons as some people have suggested!!!!
If kept in good condition, and a safe environment where you can walk about freely, they're actually cushty places to live 😂
Agreed, our architects and politicians all suck @ss!
Glad others are saying it, thought I was the only one thinking these buildings looked awful.
I have the best memories of growing up in a council estate in the 1980s and 90s, west london in w2 ans w9. When we moved to another estate very close to south kilburn i remember thinking it was way more rough, helicopters flashing lights into flats in the blocks was a routine. Halloween was always crazy as well, and guy falwes! And carnival was always a a highlight in our area, great memories ❤
My GREAT nan who passed late last year was in this video. She was such a wonderful woman and it's such a shame I didn't get enough time with her, but listening to the stories of this area she and our family spoke about and how so many people adapted to living in these places is crazy and makes me beyond grateful my generation has things so easy compared to how things used to be.
Social housing shouldn’t mean packing people in like sardines when there is money available to build decent housing. Governments always seem to find money for military and war but will stutter and flounder when it comes to providing decent social housing. These places are not free, I bet in London on these estates many people are paying more in rent than many people across the country pay on their mortgages !!!!
Ronan point was demolished strategically, i.e it wasn't demolished by use of explosives, instead it was taken apart almost like a jigsaw. The structural engineers were shocked by the amount of defects, stating that if the building had been around for another year it would have been destroyed by winds alone 0.o
By the great storm of October 1987 to be precise
I grew up in these kind of estates around South London. I had a great youth with friends all living so close but yes, totally deprived, dangerous and depressing to look at.
Edit, the family of four who died in the fire, just awful. Rip.
RIP
You've done well then, you can punk on whiskey. Going cheap now or 'you've made it to millionaire row' Drinks on you I guess.
The community spirit was brilliant.. playing games like knock down ginger. I grew up on the Aylesbury Estate SE17 . Loved it every one knew each other. Now I live in Clapham Common pretty well off people no one even says hello. It's shocking money definitely doesn't buy manners and community spirit
@@truetalksnomatterwhat6451 I lived over East Lane Market for my first 29 years until 1983 when I made the ud=sual move to this house in Bexley in 1983.
I lived on White City Estate and it was damned luxury compared to Stonebridge Park.
in hindsight the squatters were right telling the official tennants their days were numbered and would soon loose their flats too.. the poor council tennants of the 1980s were mostly totally oblivious to the real agenda of mass demolition and social cleansing the not so far future held..
BrexitCub 38 j
BrexitCub 38 absolutely bang on. I see the face of London changing and the underhand agenda.
@@joanne4594 is this the new order the cunts in charge are preparing?
Just let people live. The council house occupiers will be replaced once they die or reach old age; placed in care homes.
I was born (1952) and grew up on a council estate near Russell Square, WC1. I loved it. We knew all the neighbours and lots of kids to play with.
Central London Council estates are like ghost towns now. The flat I was born in is now half a million pounds to buy. All the kids are gone. The estate is populated by business people 😢.
I remember my mate lived in Peckham estates. I would walk from old kent road which is where I lived across Burges Park to go see him. There was always something going on lol
My concern is that our upcoming generations will have no stake in society. A combination of crippling student debts, spiralling rent and house prices, unstable low paid ‘gig economy’ jobs all give many youngsters little opportunity to get on. We are creating entire generations with nothing to lose and that is dangerous for all of us.
I'm part of that Generation and I actually see it as more of an opportunity than anything else.
If the millennials were really smart about it. We would let the system collapse and then rebuild it from scratch.
Rebuilding a better society out of rubble is ironically easier than reforming a broken system thats being artificially propped up
Interesting.
I dread to think what beautiful buildings were demolished and replaced by these estate monstrosities
Chilling, to say the least.
That fire was heartbreaking. I hope those who tried to help were able to recover from the trauma of it.
Large estates like this with no defensible space are a dreadful social experiment. On the same amount of land it would be better to build terraced houses with front and back gardens as well as some with 2 or 3 flats for people with no children. This would create a much better environment for everyone.
Spot on.
Some of those estates man, shocking!
In the past 5 years, I've lived on council estates in Somers Town, Camden and Archway. Never had any massive issues, although mice were rife in Somers town.
I've moved into my first council flat in Scotland. It is accused to be a "rough" area. Never been happier, we have no issues, kids are doing great at school and yes, sometimes we do see anti-social behaviour, but that's literally unrelated to us. Some drunk person out in the street isn't going to spoil my entire life. And focusing on just that would spoil it. Most people here are good people, with small kids, working hard. And I mean HARD, physically and emotionally demanding work such as factory jobs, care jobs or at the local College.
James Lol why would u move to s council estate that sounds yuppy
@@jneal21Joe Lol my observation was about having no issues on London council estates. I live in house shares, tough times.
Grown up on estates my whole life. There are elements where I have had good and bad because of it, but it's moulded me into who I am.
I lived in the Portsmouth version of Sommers Town rough then and still now! And they rebuilt where I lived!
Brutal tower blocks designed by people never intending to live there. Built by workers on piece work cutting corners and only looking forward to their next large pay packet. The inspectors didn't care about them either. The tower blocks turned people into swine who acted accordingly.
spot on
Well said
Chav factory
Ferrier estate was lethal but it’s knocked down with all new builds. Tbh I still feel the bad energy there
Thanks for the great upload, really enjoyed this!
I know these massive estates were a solution to lack of housing but I live in New Zealand now and they do it sooo different. Public housing homes are not all clumped together they're in amongst privately owned property's and I think it has a good psychological effect on people that are given them you know
I agree 100% ....council estates/ projects, group low-income (sometimes no-income) families together then wonder why those areas have so much trouble
Geordie Kev your council estates aren't plagued with drugs and murder tho
Its exactly the same in UK too. Every private estate has to have a section of social housing. That's really no better when you have £400k house next to a clump of drug taking scum
There’s a lot less people in New Zealand, 4 million or so, there’s 8 million in London alone, and it’s a bigger country.
@@robertomoi2044 to be fair most of the lads in my law firm are coke heads and we all got decent houses in zone 2😂😂
37:12 that girl predicted the future
A wise woman. Andy England 🇬🇧
We use to live in tower hamlets when I was young ... luckily we where given a house on commercial road with three floors since we had a big family... the area was dirty and scummy full of crime... we moved away and mistake my parents made was not buying the house from the council since few years later they turned the area into a nice clean place with new constructions etc...
"given a house?"
@@tayachting6345 this concept is unfamiliar to you?
@@Spectrescup Oh trust me, I'm familiar with it.
@@Spectrescup it is to me as a someone who grew up in the US. Your "poor" are a joke
Some of this brutalist Cubism, looks like Soviet Russia!
Part of me wonders if it's somewhat intentional. Brutalist Cubism definitely has a habit of demoralizing the population of those who live in or amongst its architecture. Who could be proud of this? The poverty-stricken areas of the United Kingdom, Russia and most Eastern European countries look one and the same. Probably have matching crime rates aswell. Similar dull weather too, though that's just by coincidence.
@@tom7204 There are so many 60's era buildings, which have the same look: it was a bleak time for industrial design.
Soviet union looks nicer
@@tom7204 it's all done by design!! like lies on tv
@@leonarddavies288 Not for much longer.
Post modern dehumanising and deliberate.
Yep
No one even speaking on Stonebridge est, probably got the mic robbed.
stretch .s 😂Bridge a special place
@@BoSSLeVeLs Tell me about it, born and bred, lived there for 20 years.
Me & a few school friends climbed onto the roof of one of the blocks in the mid 1980's.
stretch .s does it even exsist anymore?
@@brokenbritain1930 Got knocked down years ago, felt a bit sad when it went, had good times there growing up, then I thought of the bad times.
Shithole.
Putting a pub on a estate is so funny lol. Roundshaw estate in Croydon done this and that pub was a madness, had to be shut down.
JoshuaM I went to a pub on an estate in Glasgow (Red Road Estate, which was a monument to Marx) and when they heard my English voice I was glassed then beaten up. They really are savages up there.
So where do the non violent people in the estate go to socialise?
@@markdowling5962 I wonder if 'Acton Gardens' will have any!!
Ok what I’m getting from the language is they put bars ‘pubs’ in the projects ‘council estates “ is simply idiotic .a project with a bar attached to it in the untied states would never happen no matter what state you put it in it would become a shooting gallery nightly .
Is that the one by Wilsons? I lived on Stafford road
That woman is smiling about the rent increase. Didn’t hide how she was thinking and feeling at all.
I noticed that, you have one artist practising his skill on his block where he lives..... to brighten up the place! But will cost alot of money to remove, so the whole estate suffers with rent increase. She looked so happy
As a kid lived on the Marquess 1980-82 happy times, Mull Walk forever! .
Alot of it gone now and all packington
We had a similar situation in Hulme, Greater Manchester where the new Labour government of 1945 built mass council homes including the new Hulme Crescents which were modelled on the Georgian crescents in Bath only to discover that the target tennents in Hulme were not the sort of people who used the Georgian cresents in Bath. The existing terraced houses were destroyed which disrupted the street pattern and walkways were not patrolled by Police making them hotspots for vandals and antisocial behaviour..
The Hulme Crescents were later destroyed under the Conservatives City Challenge scheme in the 1990's and the area looks more welcoming and attractive to pass through. It also restored some of the old buildings (where possible) and the street layout including the Hulme Arch and created opportunities, jobs and education for local people.
Hulmes still a shithole no matter what they do with the housing🤣🤣🤣🤣
They moved out loads of local people. I knew graduates who brought houses there in the 1990s who then moved away within 5 years. Their neighbours were people who were not local to Hulme.
I grew up on the Aylesbury Estate and yes there was extreme poverty but as a child I loved it. Every one knew each other and it was a community. I was always safe as I knew someone knew my parents so if misbehaving I would get a slap there and another when I got home. Also there was always someone at hand if you needed help. So many people from my estate are now very successful. Giggs , Rio ferdinand, Jason Ewell just to name a few. With the right guidance any bad situation can be fuel for success but we know with social engineering as it is people are setup to fail
Same, growing up on an estate was amazing as a kid. You knew everyone and we looked out for each other.
I lived in Faraday Street near Michael Faraday Primary and they knocked all our surrounding terraces down to build The Aylesbury and Hetgate and, luckily, moved us over the market at THe Walworth Road End of East Street/East Lane. It was a great 29 years until I made the usual move to the Bexley area to this same house 40 years ago, in 1983, and at 69 I still go back every week. Millwall on Boxing Day, for example.
excellent compilation
I never understand why people who don't have much wreck what little they have.
cause you try and live in that gulag camp
Some people are just scum. I would let them live in tents.
Back in the 1960s Labour looked to the future with socialist ideals and the huge estates in Moscow were a great example of community living. Unfortunately, things never turned out as planned - cheap concrete high rise blocks were not the answer. Nearly all of them now condemned or dangerous. Re-cladding them was obviously not the answer either. The governments now need to think about building more estates / affordable housing, but build them in a town/village way, so that people can live healthily and as neighbours.
Now I don't even recognise most estates now in Hackney anymore especially round Hoxton & Clapton as all these modernize blocks are there that don't even suit the area from top to bottom & taking something away that estate once use to be even from the late 1990s.
Yep Hackney has really changed a lot.
But let's not look back through rose tinted glasses....it was a dump and needed drastic change!
All this indicates colossal corruption by contractors responsible for the construction of these estates.
Where's Delboy?
no....he's not, is he?
He’s changed his name to frost and now works as a crime investigator , but we no his back ground ... we no.
shinukism shnuck
No faecal matter Mr Holmes.
Down the market trying to sell 6 fingered gloves and cups with the handle on the inside.
Grabbing the suitcase from the van
Most of these social housing estates weren't thoroughly thought out in design and construction.
Still goes on to this day, and now council are running out of properties private estates are getting wrecked. I feel its a waste of time me working to pay for my property when people are getting the same property's for nothing and wrecking the place. My neighbours have just left thank god but wreck the place while they was here. I never worked and dossed around it the estate all day!
34:04 was he talking about his hair loss
lol
Sending prayers of strength & healing to Ruth 🙏🏻🫶in 2023.
It's time we learned and invested in the prevention of the socio-economic circumstances that breed this type of behaviour instead of blaming individuals or minorities. Education is key
exactly!!
Exactly, theres so many reasons we`ve got to where we are, too many blinkered people just point fingers at one or two things, its ridiculous, theres SO many reasons.
That poor girl losing her whole family is so sad, good on the man for saving her and the other man 🙏
Grew up in Woodbury Down MH loved it ❤
I used to hang out here in 1977 ,My Aunt Lived on the Westbourne Est ,I lived on the Lisson Green Est
3% cut in rent you are living in a dream world
Lmfao exactly what I was thinking
More like a 3% increase for ‘improving the area.’
One thing I have noticed in these videos is the lack of commercial goods left as rubbish. No money in the 60's-90's for such useless imported trash..
I use to live in one of those flats in Peckham when I was a kid, the place just reminds me of a prison and it doesnt feel nice living there. Was very happy when my parents managed to buy a house in Greenwich
So did I we moved in 1982 I believe it's no longer there.
Do you remember the Adventure playground?
Main greenwich has always been nice but the rest of the borough not so much
I used to knock about the Mozart in the early 90s
So happy I bought a house back then 2 bedroom house for 30k.
Now I'm 33 renting the house out for 2k a month and bought 2 more houses outside london. Currently in mexico enjoying life
How Mexico is very dangerous?
@@leegraves8878 I'm not in mexico
@@tiffanyscott4101 "Currently in mexico enjoying life" It's in your post.
graves nah I'm in san pedro beside mexico. Temporary
Good Girl
Putting struggling people together in terrible concrete bloks is asking for trouble. This is what we are still dealing with 40 years later all over the world. Putt them away and it will solve itselfs. I work in social services in the Netherlands and it is the same here.
26:00 is Carey Gardens , in Patmore .
That estate is on Wandsworth Road 💯
I use to live at my Dads back in the day when Stonebridge still had the high-rise flats we're still up
I grew up on a council estate called worlds ends estate in SW10 postcode back in the 1980s. I now suffer from deep depression and don’t leave my flat. All my old mates are either dead or in prison or suffering serious mental health conditions. It was all laughs back then, now it’s only tears …
I want to die
I'd happily do a flat swap. I heard world's end has been pretty calm over the past 15 or so years
Oh sweetheart I'm so sorry your feeling like this 😢 please try to get help and talk to someone 💗 ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
You are here for a good purpose get out n get help don’t kill your self 🌹
What a depressing footage. Good social housing projects can be done, just not the way it is done in the UK. Everyone lumped together in dystopic architecture that seems designed to support the worst possible behaviour and prevent any social cohesion or even a semblance of homeliness.
The key word is 'project'. That never boads well at the best of times.
People have turned into mongrels. Coloured influences have trashed community.
Hilarious! I helped people for the last 45 years to get out of social housing in England and never once found a successful non gang non criminal estate. You pile families on top of each other you get trouble
We,come to a time when Britain ran itself. This was pre Europe England it was a hole
Stop putting hooligan families in good places. They should evict the parents of the kids doing this.
27:35 pure nostalgia, take me home ☺️
I grew up on the Doddington....we moved in 1972 ....it was grim from the get go
The government families deserve to stay and live in a council estate for atleast 2 years of their life.
They are monsters for creating something like that
20 years every Tory scum voter
I grew up in an East London council tower block estate, good people, great times.
I grew in high-rise housing association flats in East Berlin. Same. Great time, great people, awesome school. Good future prospects. I'm in Scotland now, also in a Council Estate, just as happy, working hard, kids doing good. Media should stop putting ordinary people and their housing situations down.
shit west ham team though
I grew up in one in Bow. It was total fucking shite.
Milllllllll
@@vladimirtrump3326 Hooouuusssse
God how depressing were these estates. I thought I had it bad growing up as a kid in the 80's on a housing estate in Harold Hill, Essex.
Live on the marquess 70s 80s great place to Grow up loved it there
I've lived on a dysfunctional estate and my neighbours were barking mad, irresponsible and idiotic. They all need to look a lot closer to home as to why they live in a veritable hell.
It’s good to hear about your experience
I am a big believer in social housing and the idear of the council estate,I was looky enough to buy my frist house on a cooperation housing estate.
Who’s going to replace theses amazing delights.
Imo the architects that design these monstrosities should be made to live in them
Queen Elizabeth square in the Gorbals had three blocks a. b .c
This became Alcatraz . Barlinnie. And Carstairs
This is way more interesting than I expected it to be
This is all very grim viewing but i cant help thinking that i'm watching an episode of Brass Eye. The early 90s era and the tone is very reminiscent of the spoof comedy.
@ 26:02 That is not Clapham Park Estate in Clapham. That's the Carey Gardens Estate in South Lambeth/North Battersea. Does anyone know the year? Looks like early 90s.
swiftlydoesit stfu is Clapham
Ben Makaveli. You shut up you doughnut! I live near that area and know those streets like the back of my hand. 😂
@@shhcold8022 It's Wandsworth Road numbnuts
@@grahamjonathan762
Lol
I used to live on Clapham Park Estate. Bennet House' Headlam Rd. What a shithole !!. Got my kids away from there in 91. Live in Surrey now ' heaven !!.
So many council flats now have been knocked down now in order to build private properties.
I mean hospitals were shut down & turned into swanky apartments or houses.
Crime in the UK has definitely not reduced though, that is a fact.
True, the victims are arrested for trying to defend themselves. The perpetrators get a nice big payout and a pity party
Crime has increased.
It's 2019 almost 2020 and the same type of buildings & areas still exist.
Estates aren't anywhere as desolate as they were in the 80s. Still plenty of crime of course, but far less poverty.
TpX Thinnr not exactly, in the eyes of the government it may be high poverty, but with a lot of the drug dealers hiding their money and keeping it in traceable, the poverty isn’t that bad
mr mike depends on where you live really, i live across the road from pepys estate and they are slowly destroying it, it started with aragon tower , then marine wharf and now the timberyard, deptford is slowly turning into like a new Canary Wharf
mr mike in my area it’s quite different, if you can snag rent before the flats are bought out by the rich it’s like 200 pw for a 3 bed, my flat is a 2 bed, built in 2008, 160 a week, and it’s private aswell
@@theofficialcosworthracingt8987 so they get the houses for free how bc if they have no job they are making illegal drug money I’m confused can u explain
Man seeing Peckham like it was back in the 70’s 80’s is so depressing.
2019: It's still depressing
Young James Yeap😂😂 everyone has frowns on their faces.
The funny thing is the council spend so much cheaping out and cutting corners to try save money then spend more to put things right while bodging stuff to save more money and in the end they spent more money than had too.They continue to spend more money with there bodge repairs. They never learn. Its still going on today.
Brought up in Holborn in the 70s 80s can't really say a bad word about it.. youth clubs & Coram's fields on our doorstep. Best days ever
My daughter goes to the nursery in Coram Fields. The kids parents are a mixture of people who work nearby like her father or the few poorer people who live in social housing.
@@MsPeabody1231 Everyone I know has moved away in the late 80s-90s or have passed away. I lived in Orde Hall Street just off great Ormand Street but growing up was absolutely fantastic, great friends & excellent times. Not been that way in so many years now.
Wow very interesting stuff
...Paint it again Sam. Loool legend 🤣
25:57 That's Carey Gardens in Battersea/Clapham Junction in the borough of Wandsworth, not the Clapham Park Estate in the borough of Lambeth.
The reporter didn't know where he was. Call it Battersea or Stockwell but Clapham it ain't.
@@regkray Stockwell is still controversial but yh not incorrect
Tall blocks around my way in Hackney got blown down in the 80s, Clapton Park, Nightingale, Holly Street, Kingshold...proper busted, was like roach speedway in my friends flat.
Kingshold Shore was my estate.... Cockroaches and asbestos.... I went for a walk there the other day.... Got lost.... Can't believe how different it is....crazy.... Weston house still there and that's about it.... The undead subway gone... the tower blocks gone.... The walkways gone..the bungalows gone.... almost all the flats gone.... Crazy
There was a TV documentary about the Nightingale in the early to mid 90`s, it wasn't a good advert for it.. Its probably on YT somewhere.. I think it was called "Summer on the Estate" or something similar.
‘Paint it again Sam’ 😂
Makes me miss the criminals of yesteryear.
These types of estates exist in Eastern Europe and the majority of people live in this tour of housing yet they do not have any similar problems like UK, France, etc.
The problem is not brutalist architecture but rather the quality of people who inhabit them.
We all know who live in these shitholes and we know they are the ones committing all of the crime.
Not quite, as the Communist stuff was a lot more inhabitable.
13:25 - "Children as young as 5 are being blamed."
😳💀💀 . . . WHAT?!?!?! 😭
I was smoking by age 6... parents too busy coping have no way to “balance” that with actually parenting, then it just becomes the new norm. Horrific childhood i had... but so did every poor cunt my age around me.
I grew up off the Harrow Rd in the late 70’s early 80’s Mozart was a no go area
39:50 Hey I recognise that place, my brother lives/lived there.