It's a shame how you constantly repeat information videos over and over again you'll do anything to get to the 10-minute Mark very lazy very very very very very very very very very lazy reporting I've only watched a dozen videos from you and I've already seen the same content in almost every video
As a cowboy fan.. loved every minute of the dynamic and Skips delusional takes. Helped me get the delusional cowboy fan over to my friends. Skip should have never disrespected Unk tbh but this is where we live now not the past. Good riddance for the sour taste in our mouths! We can take a guess at what happened to First Take after seeing how Skip and Shan ended!
Yes. Rumors hasn’t when she was cleaning out her desk. She gave everyone a hug. When she was walking out .. they saw skip walking up to her. He went to shake her hand… and she wasn’t having it.. she just gave him the evil eye. And just left.
I remember when I first watched Skip and Stephen A in which I didn't care much for Stephen A because of his personality, so when Skip left ESPN and went to Undisputed and brought in Uncle Shay I loved listening to their NFL banter and was sad when Uncle Shay left I tried to watch the new Undisputed and couldn't for it wasn't the same. Couldn't watch Stephen A with Uncle Shay because of Stephen A's personality.
Being more pissed off at Stephan a than skip bayless is a wild take. Skip never achieved any form of athletic accomplishment. Skip literally told a hall of famer he never did anything in the league. Stephen a at least played in college.
@@craigbeasley2959 I never said I was pissed at Stephen A. I just said I don't like him because of his personality. See when Skip talks you can hear his passion and is able to tell right away that's how he truly feels unlike Stephen A who constantly sounds like he's reading a script
If you go back and look at all of skips opinions he’s been right on almost everything he predicted Brady would continue to win he predicted belughicj round get exposed he predicted Dallas would never win with dak he predicted eagles would win with foles hurts and not wentz he predicted so many right things .
Undisputed was and still is my favorite sports debate show of all time. Never have I seen two men debate sports on television as they did. I’m a Steelers fan and I have been watching Steelers since the mid nineties and when ravens and Steelers became a rivalry it was awesome to watch two teams go blow for blow. That is what skip and Shannon were for me. I have tried watching skip and Shannon after Shannon left and I don’t think either one is the same. Now, if I do watch skip or Shannon, I only watch old clips from Shannon and skip.
I watched undisputed for years but his new show was terrible. I thought the biggest problem was the people on his new show. He had no chemistry with the new group. It was boring.
"Skip was asked to clean out his desk and walk to the gate with the security guard, or there was going to be trouble, and he agreed" = "It was mutual" 😅
Everybody dragging him but can we thank him for years of watching Dallas break his heart and kick starting multiple careers for people love or hate him he gave us years of great sports media THANK YOU SKIP
My world would probably have been better if i never knew of Skip Bayless. His obnoxious shtick was tiring and stale. He’s the Tucker Carlson of sports talk…. That’s gross.
Cam went from a mvp starting QB in the super bowl..to a back up and out of the league in like 3-4 years...him not jumping on that fumble in the SB DESTROYED his carrer....you should do a video on that mike!!
He quit and gave up. Von Miller broke his confidence and so did the rest of the Broncos defense. He never regained his confidence. He has no right to throw shade on anyone else.
@@bobbybands1957 yeah...what got me was him trying to call out brock and saying he's a game manager...well..he's kind of right...because if brock was in that situation he would've jumped right on that ball to keep possession and managed the game.. 😆
@@abrahambaltazar8342 yes he has. I don’t know anyone that watched first take for Skip, it was always for SAS. Same with undisputed. Everyone that I know, including myself, watched for Shannon. And don’t get me started on the roster that he’s had since Shannon. Skip is not who he thinks he is.
@@brushlessmicrot I used to think like that till I realized I don't enjoy watching Shannon nearly as much without skip being on the other side of him. Him and sas are okay but nowhere near the gold him and skip were
@@brushlessmicrot SAS hasn’t been with skip for a long time now, just showing your age. Skip is life long accomplished commentator. You just don’t know what you’re talking about
I guess I am an old head, but I watched Sports Center in the morning back in the late 90's early 2000's. I couldn't imagine starting my morning off listening to two grown men arguing every morning. Sports Center put me in a good mood, this seems like a horrible start of the day.
Well. Eventually you'll have watched that sportscenter a dozen times. And well. I miss that, too. You end up really knowing the facts through that repetition.
Kind of par for the course these days in the USA. Glad I left for the chill life 7 years ago. I'm much healthier these days mentally, physically and financially.
Old head here too, took me a minute to get it. They’d get heated and argue on everything… at first I didn’t like it, but I loved how it fired them both up to outdo the other guy
Skip is an acquired test. No one loves oysters the first time they eat them. Skip would rather die than not have a seat at the table. He deserves a seat, his takes are brave and unique.
The only thing I liked about Skip was Twitter trolling him for Lebron living rent free in his head and Shannon wearing the GOAT costume for Lebron and destroying Skip in the process.
I watched undisputed because of Skip and Shannon. The show is over, and I don't watch either of them now. One thing I always respected about SAS is that he isn't going to cry and get his bussy hurt and quit. He'll go back at you harder.
Skip hit the wall- all stars hit it eventually. His style of either trolling (Lebron) or simping (Brady) was always going to have a shelf life. His longevity particuarly with that style commands respect
Might just be me but i dont think either of them are the same without eachother. Both are on a panel style show and its not the same. Skip barely gets to say anything and Shannon and SAS seem to agree on everything. I miss the back and forth between Skip and Shannon. Now i watch FTF. Thats the best show out rn since there isnt a 1v1 debate show
@sunflower78575 Ocho and Shannon barely disagree on anything sports wise. I want to see 2 people with different opinions about sports go at it. They are funny but Ocho and Shannon never had a Skip and Shannon moment and probably never will.
Bro Shannon has had so many guest and viral moments. You’re delusional if you don’t think Shannon is more entertaining running his own show than him and skip.
I wasn't a fan of Skip attacking Shannon's HOF career to defend Brady, but I do agree he was the antihero/villain that sports debate needed. I'd still take him over the likes of Jason Whitlock anyday.
Skip can just do his own podcast and call it a day. He'd have full control, he would get to do it however he liked, and he could do it at his own leisure.
I still can’t believe that the day we found out Shannon was leaving that i had fools telling me in the YT comments and twitter that they only actually watch the show for skip anyway and that Shannon was annoying and loud. They said skip would be fine without him and didn’t need him because he did it twice he can do it again. I literally had ppl telling me these things 😂
Hit the poor guy when he is down. SB is entertaining for many years. Good luck 😊 SS got his start as the result to SB help. SS was number 2 man on this show.
SAS will never diss Skip because he is what a lot of people aren't....LOYAL. Say what you want about Stephen A. He understands that skip brought him to where he is at.
I'll miss skip I've been watching him and his shows for almost 30 years the only problem I ever had with skip was the rude nick names he would give to athletes I found it very disrespectful like Russell Westbrick because what person on planet Earth wouldn't be offensive slur and adding it to their name? He will be missed by me and I hope he gets another show so I can tune in and listen to him again I've learned a lot from the man and I myself became a better sports debater. God bless you Skip!
Also you have to follow your passion. You can’t just sit there and say “you should retire” that’s just as bad as saying “put your glasses on”. So I say “follow your passion till the end” !!!!!
I’m not a racist nor a hater. Nor a fan of Mr Bayless but I wish him well. I did grow up watching his sports takes and his voice is familiar to me. Wish u well skip.
The Skip and Shannon version of Undisputed was a once in a lifetime combination of personalities. They captured lighting in a bottle. Shame it didn't last because neither on their own is as watchable.
It’s too bad it had to go down that way. They made a good team for years. Their disagreements and arguments usually went somewhere interesting, when they both had respect for each other. When skip attacked Shannon personally, then it’s over.
Skip was a beast man. Yea he had some wild takes sometimes, but people got way too sensitive with him. Nothing he said was that offensive people are acting like the guy is a complete scumbag. The damar Hamlin thing was way overblown he said many times before and after that tweet that he was praying for Hamlin
It's because he's been doing this for 40 years that he's not going to just ride off into the sunset that's just not who he is. He's going to go nuts if he does that. And if he tries to stop it will last all of 5 minutes.
Skip and Shannon was the combo, the chemistry. There was nothing better. Not Stephen A and Shannon, not Skip solo. Shannon can't even riff now and Skip was muted ever since he left. Shephen A. is a one man show and that is fine. But the broad groundbreaking appeal went to Shannon and Skip.
The new podcasts work because it’s former players unless you’ve played at the collegiate level or higher we don’t care what you think and I’m glad that that’s finally taken hold of the main sports media. Fans are cool and all but it’s a known thing behind closed doors that they don’t know what they’re talking about in sports writers only know so much.
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Keyshawn Johnson and lil Wayne ended skip bayless. They’re terrible.
It's a shame how you constantly repeat information videos over and over again you'll do anything to get to the 10-minute Mark very lazy very very very very very very very very very lazy reporting I've only watched a dozen videos from you and I've already seen the same content in almost every video
Hating skip and loving Shannon was a big reason why I loved undisputed. Every great story needs a villain.
Not really 🤦🏾♂️
@@koreantxoyes really
So happy Skip got canned
@@koreantxo ur delusional if you don't think a protagonist needs an antagonist.
As a cowboy fan.. loved every minute of the dynamic and Skips delusional takes. Helped me get the delusional cowboy fan over to my friends. Skip should have never disrespected Unk tbh but this is where we live now not the past. Good riddance for the sour taste in our mouths! We can take a guess at what happened to First Take after seeing how Skip and Shan ended!
Jenny leaving undisputed was when everything went to skips head. Jenny kept him in check
😂😂😂😂 delusion at its finest.
Jenny pressed his ass😂😂
Bro Jenny left because Skip
What? She checked him one time and got booted from the show soon after.
Yes. Rumors hasn’t when she was cleaning out her desk. She gave everyone a hug. When she was walking out .. they saw skip walking up to her. He went to shake her hand… and she wasn’t having it.. she just gave him the evil eye. And just left.
I would’ve bet the house 10 years ago that Lebron would retire before Skip. Wild world we’re living in.
Stolen comment
@@Tpnathan38 buddy you copied word for word what he said😭also his comment was made 15 minutes ago and urs was made 2 minutes ago💀
Great day when LeBron’s gone and great day now Skips gone.
@@DJezdicman you equal opportunity hater way to make your family proud. 🤦🏽♂️
@@mjbset93 Hate is earned, get off your knees next time you speak to me.
I remember when I first watched Skip and Stephen A in which I didn't care much for Stephen A because of his personality, so when Skip left ESPN and went to Undisputed and brought in Uncle Shay I loved listening to their NFL banter and was sad when Uncle Shay left I tried to watch the new Undisputed and couldn't for it wasn't the same. Couldn't watch Stephen A with Uncle Shay because of Stephen A's personality.
Being more pissed off at Stephan a than skip bayless is a wild take. Skip never achieved any form of athletic accomplishment. Skip literally told a hall of famer he never did anything in the league. Stephen a at least played in college.
@@craigbeasley2959 I never said I was pissed at Stephen A. I just said I don't like him because of his personality. See when Skip talks you can hear his passion and is able to tell right away that's how he truly feels unlike Stephen A who constantly sounds like he's reading a script
@@craigbeasley2959so? Bro can’t have an opinion without you hating it?
If you go back and look at all of skips opinions he’s been right on almost everything he predicted Brady would continue to win he predicted belughicj round get exposed he predicted Dallas would never win with dak he predicted eagles would win with foles hurts and not wentz he predicted so many right things .
@@AlexRosner-v8t and so many wrong things like baker mayfield being top 5 and as good as burrow and mahomes.
Undisputed was and still is my favorite sports debate show of all time. Never have I seen two men debate sports on television as they did. I’m a Steelers fan and I have been watching Steelers since the mid nineties and when ravens and Steelers became a rivalry it was awesome to watch two teams go blow for blow. That is what skip and Shannon were for me. I have tried watching skip and Shannon after Shannon left and I don’t think either one is the same. Now, if I do watch skip or Shannon, I only watch old clips from Shannon and skip.
I’ll always appreciate Skip and especially watching him get trolled weekly for his Cowboys.
Whatever Skip does, let's just all hope, for once in his life, he decides to do it quietly.
Bro literally same. Id smoke a bowl, crack a monster and watch them every morning. So proud of shannon man
Switch that monster for a Mountain Dew and we cooking 💪🏿😂
Stephen A could play a character but Unc is a genuine guy who wears his heart on his sleeve. It was never going to work out between them
Shannon’s personality on Undisputed was largely fabricated.
I watched undisputed for years but his new show was terrible. I thought the biggest problem was the people on his new show. He had no chemistry with the new group. It was boring.
Anything with Keyshawn Johnson sucks
"Skip was asked to clean out his desk and walk to the gate with the security guard, or there was going to be trouble, and he agreed" = "It was mutual" 😅
Hey - sounds mutual to me 🤷🏻♂️ that’s what I would say & feel if the company came at me that way
Everybody dragging him but can we thank him for years of watching Dallas break his heart and kick starting multiple careers for people love or hate him he gave us years of great sports media THANK YOU SKIP
My world would probably have been better if i never knew of Skip Bayless. His obnoxious shtick was tiring and stale. He’s the Tucker Carlson of sports talk…. That’s gross.
Goodbye, Water Pistol Pete, Jr. 🤣🤣🤣
Cam went from a mvp starting QB in the super bowl..to a back up and out of the league in like 3-4 years...him not jumping on that fumble in the SB DESTROYED his carrer....you should do a video on that mike!!
That would be an interesting video to watch. Even the commentators called him out immediately after that play that encapsulated Cam's legacy.
He quit and gave up. Von Miller broke his confidence and so did the rest of the Broncos defense. He never regained his confidence. He has no right to throw shade on anyone else.
@@bobbybands1957 yeah...what got me was him trying to call out brock and saying he's a game manager...well..he's kind of right...because if brock was in that situation he would've jumped right on that ball to keep possession and managed the game.. 😆
Cam who? :-)
Make it a 20 min documentary .💯
Thanks!
Skip has been the co-host for as long as I’ve known him. He let it get to his head. He was not and has not been the main attraction for decades.
No he hasn’t, you just sound like a hater
@@abrahambaltazar8342 yes he has. I don’t know anyone that watched first take for Skip, it was always for SAS. Same with undisputed. Everyone that I know, including myself, watched for Shannon. And don’t get me started on the roster that he’s had since Shannon. Skip is not who he thinks he is.
@@brushlessmicrot I used to think like that till I realized I don't enjoy watching Shannon nearly as much without skip being on the other side of him. Him and sas are okay but nowhere near the gold him and skip were
@@brushlessmicrot SAS hasn’t been with skip for a long time now, just showing your age. Skip is life long accomplished commentator. You just don’t know what you’re talking about
I guess I am an old head, but I watched Sports Center in the morning back in the late 90's early 2000's. I couldn't imagine starting my morning off listening to two grown men arguing every morning. Sports Center put me in a good mood, this seems like a horrible start of the day.
Well. Eventually you'll have watched that sportscenter a dozen times. And well. I miss that, too. You end up really knowing the facts through that repetition.
I agree. Haven't watched ESPN, in the morning. And glad Skip is gone.
Kind of par for the course these days in the USA. Glad I left for the chill life 7 years ago. I'm much healthier these days mentally, physically and financially.
Old head here too, took me a minute to get it. They’d get heated and argue on everything… at first I didn’t like it, but I loved how it fired them both up to outdo the other guy
You are an old head; an old head who knows true glory days when he sees them.
Skip is an acquired test. No one loves oysters the first time they eat them. Skip would rather die than not have a seat at the table. He deserves a seat, his takes are brave and unique.
The only thing I liked about Skip was Twitter trolling him for Lebron living rent free in his head and Shannon wearing the GOAT costume for Lebron and destroying Skip in the process.
Never seen Skip young before 😂
I miss when skip and Stephen A would go back and forth. Two wild personalities clashing made for some entertaining TV
I watched undisputed because of Skip and Shannon. The show is over, and I don't watch either of them now.
One thing I always respected about SAS is that he isn't going to cry and get his bussy hurt and quit. He'll go back at you harder.
Skip had him fired sas let Shannon know it’s and interview about it
No one cares
Skip's brother Rick Bayless the most successful Bayless in the family!!
I still think Shannon and Skip's Undisputed was the best sports show when it was on top.
Cam is absolutely right about that one.
Sometimes in your life, you just have to let it go and move forward to enjoy life to the fullest. The rest of the day isn't guaranteed for none of us.
The man is 72 his best days are too good to ever to recapture old energy I'm wondering if Shannon will return with Steve A
Two racists reunite....yay for us
@@JJPARRA1974 wtf lmao Skip is a dumbass but I never heard anyone call him racist
It was a great day in our country when skip got fired. Should make that day a federal holiday
Skip hit the wall- all stars hit it eventually. His style of either trolling (Lebron) or simping (Brady) was always going to have a shelf life. His longevity particuarly with that style commands respect
Homie loves to keep playing that clip lol he got a streak going
Plot Twist: Skip goes back to ESPN and debate against Stephen A. and Shannon.
Wont happen
Might just be me but i dont think either of them are the same without eachother. Both are on a panel style show and its not the same. Skip barely gets to say anything and Shannon and SAS seem to agree on everything. I miss the back and forth between Skip and Shannon. Now i watch FTF. Thats the best show out rn since there isnt a 1v1 debate show
No. Him and Ocho are comedic gold! They could do it in the same setting and mesh very well without skip.
@sunflower78575 Ocho and Shannon barely disagree on anything sports wise. I want to see 2 people with different opinions about sports go at it. They are funny but Ocho and Shannon never had a Skip and Shannon moment and probably never will.
@@mtf88skip don’t no what he be talking about 😂
Bro Shannon has had so many guest and viral moments. You’re delusional if you don’t think Shannon is more entertaining running his own show than him and skip.
Never apologize for talking SPORTS brotha!! we the men of the sporting community can listen to anything sports especially convos like this
I wasn't a fan of Skip attacking Shannon's HOF career to defend Brady, but I do agree he was the antihero/villain that sports debate needed. I'd still take him over the likes of Jason Whitlock anyday.
About like you Cam, he’s not a starter?
Loved it when those two were together on undisputed. Shannon was great and i watched it everyday. I hate the fall out but understand it
Some people forget color commentary isn't always winning a popularity contest.
Skip can just do his own podcast and call it a day. He'd have full control, he would get to do it however he liked, and he could do it at his own leisure.
Sharpe was great and I love that he used this to elevate himself
Ive always liked Skip. Always gets me engaged regardless of the topic.
Skip just started down that old man slide "GET OFF MY LAWN" "TURN THAT MUSIC DOWN".....and that is saying something since I am 48!!!
wtf young skip looks exactly like ryan gosling and no one's talking about it
See ya Skippy ✌🏼😂😂😂
I still can’t believe that the day we found out Shannon was leaving that i had fools telling me in the YT comments and twitter that they only actually watch the show for skip anyway and that Shannon was annoying and loud. They said skip would be fine without him and didn’t need him because he did it twice he can do it again. I literally had ppl telling me these things 😂
Not gonna miss skip at all 🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉
Hit the poor guy when he is down. SB is entertaining for many years. Good luck 😊 SS got his start as the result to SB help. SS was number 2 man on this show.
I never watched the the show for Skip not once after the argument even when he had Key on my alumni .
no surprise Cams podcast is called 4th and 1....hahahah he cant get a first down after hes out of the league either
SAS will never diss Skip because he is what a lot of people aren't....LOYAL. Say what you want about Stephen A. He understands that skip brought him to where he is at.
Skip was the perfect heel commentator
I'll miss skip I've been watching him and his shows for almost 30 years the only problem I ever had with skip was the rude nick names he would give to athletes I found it very disrespectful like Russell Westbrick because what person on planet Earth wouldn't be offensive slur and adding it to their name? He will be missed by me and I hope he gets another show so I can tune in and listen to him again I've learned a lot from the man and I myself became a better sports debater. God bless you Skip!
Also you have to follow your passion. You can’t just sit there and say “you should retire” that’s just as bad as saying “put your glasses on”. So I say “follow your passion till the end” !!!!!
Prayers for Ernestine. Now she has to deal with Skip...
Skip on club Shay will be the next thing to break the net🤷🏽♂️💪🏽🙌🏽
Yeah, I picked up my copy Thursday night at GameStop. I have been playing until my 👀 bleed. 😂😂
😂 he's about to start his own podcast👌🏿. No one watches tv anymore.
Skips about to make a whole bunch of money👌🏿
Skip told Ernestine on the 1st date, "you will never be more important than my job". He will go on IF anyone will pay him to do so.
Man he be reusing these clips hard
Love your video Mike and keep up the great work you are awesome
Why can't Steven a Shannon and Skip just do a debate show together? That would be the ultimate sports commentary show
The best thing skip did, was talking facts about the phony goats 🐐, yes sir
Nightcap is amazing I love it
11:24 How did u speculate something that's a researchable fact?
I think Westbrook should start calling him now "Skip Payless"
I’m not a racist nor a hater. Nor a fan of Mr Bayless but I wish him well. I did grow up watching his sports takes and his voice is familiar to me. Wish u well skip.
The Skip and Shannon version of Undisputed was a once in a lifetime combination of personalities. They captured lighting in a bottle. Shame it didn't last because neither on their own is as watchable.
Shannon's numbers disagrees with you
Jim Rome was the guy that did that kind of thing before first take arguing with Chael and everything else
It’s too bad it had to go down that way.
They made a good team for years. Their disagreements and arguments usually went somewhere interesting, when they both had respect for each other. When skip attacked Shannon personally, then it’s over.
Skip was a beast man. Yea he had some wild takes sometimes, but people got way too sensitive with him. Nothing he said was that offensive people are acting like the guy is a complete scumbag. The damar Hamlin thing was way overblown he said many times before and after that tweet that he was praying for Hamlin
Saw the SAS video. After watching it I’ve concluded.. He 1000% tweeted that for ESPN 😭
Yeah obviously lol it’s business
It's because he's been doing this for 40 years that he's not going to just ride off into the sunset that's just not who he is. He's going to go nuts if he does that. And if he tries to stop it will last all of 5 minutes.
I hope skip comes back. I will miss him a lot
As much as I dislike Skip at times, he’s a goat for what he does. Sad to see him go out like this
I agree with everything you said about Skip
Keyshawn is horrible and Michael Irving is even worse
Y'all gotta see kwame brown go off roasting skip😂
If he got fired he probably got compensated.
Skip is still my 🐐. Join Max Kellerman my guy! Haha
Skip wasn't fired his contract expired and they couldn't agree on a new one and there you have it his time at FS1 is up big time facts 💯 👏
That Shaq/Kobe comparison is so weak 😅
Every ying has to have it's yang. I'll miss watching Skip go at it with whoever sat across from him.
Oh, love the “whataboutisms” in regard to Cam Newton having an opinion about the bloviated ego of Skip Bayless!
Like how he says “Night Cap with Ocho” 5:20 with Gilbert Arenas on the clip, ultimate Troll
Calm down, Gil is only there on Wednesday. And he SUCKS!!
The beginning of the end was when black pundits said Skip was going to tell Shannon “put your glasses back on boy”
Well, Shannon took his glasses off and he was acting like a boy.
Very informative. Thanks bro……👍🏽
I haven’t watched Undisputed since Shannon left. It just wasn’t the same.
I didn’t mind Skip. Struggled to watch Shannon for more than a few minutes.
There is something here about reaping and sowing. 🤷🏿♂️
Skip and Shannon was the combo, the chemistry. There was nothing better. Not Stephen A and Shannon, not Skip solo. Shannon can't even riff now and Skip was muted ever since he left. Shephen A. is a one man show and that is fine. But the broad groundbreaking appeal went to Shannon and Skip.
The new podcasts work because it’s former players unless you’ve played at the collegiate level or higher we don’t care what you think and I’m glad that that’s finally taken hold of the main sports media. Fans are cool and all but it’s a known thing behind closed doors that they don’t know what they’re talking about in sports writers only know so much.
Skip and Stephen A got a long bc they are tv personalities
Wiley was spitting facts
Undisputed was the greatest morning sports debate program….until Shannon left.
Cam! Bad hat great content.
Skips tweet about Hamlin wasn't bad. It was even correct. So many crybabies. Lord the world has gone so so soft
They’ve always hated each other, I’m surprised the show lasted as long as it did
ESPN should look into bringing skip back. Just saying 😌 😮
Jerry and Stephen Jones will hire skip Bayless to clean there portable outhouse plus it gives skip a big chance at getting a big cowboys scoop. lol
Shannon Sharpe just helps make sports more zesty &ghetto.