Who is your favorite Fallen Unit in FEH? ❱ FALLEN EDELGARD DOMINATES! Review, Builds & Counters to F!Edelgard! - ua-cam.com/video/DYrgFhQKJuc/v-deo.html
Maybe it will be a good counter if we get more duos skills like Hector where you can damage their health without going into combat. And then partner it up with those aoe specials like L!Lilina.
@@MarcusXD100 if a character's atk can reach 60 or above above I can switch out for noontime or sol and it keeps the bonus much longer and they will still hit hard enough
@@nightwish1453 I think for F!Edelgard that's overkill most of the time. A lot of units have problem reducing her hp at all even without mystic boost seal.
@@andyhaochizhangwasn't really referring to F!Edelgard but characters like fallen Celica, F.morgans and F.Julia can do it and do it well plus their weapons are more demanding with Hp Thresholds or they benefit more with a heal special
God Pheonixmaster1 is the best Fire Emblem Heros person to follow! Gives so much detailed information and gives his opinions on why they work. Love it!
And F!Morgan is tanky as heck. He's just a better F!Julia whos already quite good, he doesn't have Light and Dark but can stop enemy follow ups and has guard
F!Dimitri like a truck, more like F!Dimitri is a truck, am I right? Still day 111 of telling PM1 not to overwork himself, and to stay safe during COVID-19.
Ninja yari, FB4 and moonbow woke well with F Dimitri, galeforce going to make him can’t do much on high defense enemies and you can use chain smite on him to put him in front of the enmey then he can canto out for 4 move; it’s like a mini galeforce if you can set him up like that.
Fallen Dimitri thinks that big damage is everything, so he gets +3 atk instead of slaying and has the astra blade effect if he can't double instead of getting NFU. That, or IS wanted to try to "balance" him as much as they could, though that argument kind of falls flat when you look at what they did for fallen edelgard.
@@Peace141308 As someone who doesn't use Nul CD on BIke, he's the most annoying to take out with a non spd dependent sweep effect. The others just die against Aether.
@@Erowax The thing is, he's only annoying on the offense, if he's on enemy phase he's basically a sitting duck, literally any mage running a skill like lance breaker can rip him to shreds
Hmm, for the FDimitri ARO build is it advisable to use Ninja Yari+ instead? I don't have a Curtains I can spare. I plan on max investing eventually as well.
_honey wake up new PM1 upload_ but yayyyy!! finally a video going through fallen female morgan! havent seen any videos or showcases of her for some reason so this is nice
Fallen Dimitri is such a great unit and I'm already getting good use out of him. My only complaint is that rng gave me -atk Still bummed that "kill every last one of them!" Isn't a special trigger quote :/
F! Edelgard was a mistake but she has a Big weakness: AoE specials, L! Lilina OneShot her in My runs (i have her with her base kit) other options are: Ophelia, Lysithea, Plegian Mages cuz why not... And the Star of the show Micaiah who can do lots of damage due to the Armored efective tome that she has no matter the alt... Brave Micaiah actually got a kill on that thing
"who thought this monstrosity was fair and balanced?" She's not, and she's only a sign of more broken things to come in the future. FEH is a gambling sim at its core after all.
Dimitri is nasty, i do think his best build at max investment should be flashing blade 4 with ninja yari and time's pulse. Unless the enemy tank has wary fighter, he will hit for 40 in just true damage in 1 turn, 60 with a dancer, nothing survives. Flashing blade 4 will counter special fighter as well making sure you get galeforce no matter what if you are running time's pulse.
I tested out a base neutral F!F!Morgan with DC Guard Bearing and no seal against a +10 +Atk 10flower L!Chrom with full buffs and Ideal + Solo fully active. As long as her weapon's fully active she doesn't even need Iotes Shield and she lives the shot and kills L!Chrom. So honestly you don't really need to run Iotes on her that much. The Morgans are super overlooked on this banner, they are insanely strong.
Hey PM1, I used my forma soul on Larcei and gave her ruptured sky as her special thinking she would still come with regnal astra. For some reason she doesn't have it or any of her base kit for that matter. Will I have to summon a Larcei and merge her to be able to get her base kit on her?
seeing sabotage def on morgan really gives you the idea of what if we had a mage that hits def instead of res. the best counter to mages is just better mages, most mages have high res and low def so a def hitting mage would be truly something special.
Y know what I like most about these fallen units and their other previous variants? They’re all lore accurate too. The Morgan’s are indeed a powerful force when led by Grima. Academy 3H lords are very well rounded. Their legendary versions are also equally as well rounded but more optimized for their specific roles. They’re also balanced in such a way that they’re equally as good at attacking and conquering in player phase as they are at defending and protecting in enemy phase. Brave versions of the lords are done with their journeys and fighting in general so they’re mostly enemy phase focused and not all that focused on attacking. The fallen 3H lords however are extremely conquest driven one way or another so they’re practically hyper offensive to reflect their ferocity towards everything in their way
Edelgard Alts: -Academy -Flame Emperor -Legendary -Brave -Fallen Dmitri Alts: -Academy -Legendary -Brave -Fallen Claude Alts: -Academy -Legendary -Brave I'm seriously concerned about the amount of Edelgard alts (yes, I consider Flame Emperor an alt) in comparison to Claude alts. I hope he gets some other alt that isn't a seasonal (he deserves better than any holiday version)
I didn't want Dimitri to be in the banner because I knew that: 1) his status as fallen was debatable 2) he would be pretty much the same as his legendary version. I even speculated pretty much his kit a few days before the banner and got it almost right: a new Areadbhar, high atk/spd, a solo skill, Atrocity (just like with Julia) and odd tempest. IS should have really swaped Dimitri with, well, pretty much any other available fallen. They have a good pool to choose from, and Edelgard is the star anyway, so she's going to be the most sparked unit.
My favorite unit from this banner is Male Morgan the close counter build is what I'm running right now but I have quick ripsote for insurance in his seal
I haven't really been keeping up with FEH news that much these past month. And man, i missed you, PM1! Btw, thanks to you, i often mispell "Phoenix" now 🤣
My favorite thing to do with Fallen Dimitri is run Atk/Spd Ideal and Time's Pulse with Heavy Blade and have Annette just give him the Rally and Extra Movement.
@@rogelio723_dx3 Yeah. People look at L!Dimitri and F!Dimitri's stats and assume they're the same when it's really different. L!Dimitri can't really take the units F!Dimitri cuts through easily. In exchange L!Dimitri can really do some work with debuffs and has better teamplay and mixed phase potential. L!Dimitri isn't really made for killing many tanks unlike F!Dimitri.
L!Dimitri is far better than F!Dimitri. I dont want either of them initiating on me and it's always scary initiating on L!Dimitri cuz even green mages get one shot if they don't fo enough damage to get past the DR.
@@frisolaxod3835 F! Dimitri it's more of a hit and run unit and L! Dimitri it's more of a mixed phase unit who depending of their kit can do a lot, while B! Dimitri it's a physical tank
The best part of this banner is that in Forging Bonds, F!Morgan refers to her own evil twin as Mo-Mo. I think I.S. is trying to tell us something about who her mom is. ;)
Can't wait for my Spurn Rinkah to barbecue her first +10 Fallen Dimitri in Arena. Personally I'm the most excited about Mo-Mo the Second on this banner. If only I had regular F!Morgan so I could support them.
Listen, friends of PM1. They say "never read the comments" on the internet, but I always read the quality/wholesome/informative comments on these videos. Thank you for all collectively being awesome
have dimitri and edelgard in my second account, in fact you just need to "push" dimitri in melee range and in fact I feel like he's scarier in player hand, he doesn't even need his special to one shot with his huge attack.
@@AnaroshScend not really. I was doing this as a meme rather than a tierlist. The gameplay is shifting, so it means that there is a chance for innovation for strategy. Which is always good in a strategy game. I apologize if I came out as salty. I guess writing doesn't always convey the subtleties of speech.
I haven't played a lot of Fire Emblem games, so I'm pretty curious on just how many more Fallen Heroes are there in the whole franchise, canon and non-canon (Cipher Cards etc.). So far, these I know: Gunter (Fates: Revelation) Darios (Warriors) Risen King Chrom (Awakening Cipher Card) Deadlords (Thracia) and Morphs (Blazing Blade) created from dead characters Dedue (Three Houses: Crimson Flower) Gustav (Heroes Book III) Though not part of a Fallen Banner, I consider Lif and Thrasir as Fallen Alfonse and Veronica.
I've got mine with Atk/Defense Solo Seal and Attack/Res Rouse C slot, and at merge +1 with and Atk Boon, he has 66 base attack + 6 from Rouse, +6 from weapon, +6 from seal, +7 from Attack/Speed Solo = 91 Atk
ughhh I spent all my orbs and got F!Morgan and Dimitri with great IVs + Edelgard as a spar. But I got 100 orbs and I want Fallen Morgan but idk if I should. I really want all the units in this banner they all are so fun to play with (Edelgard with her...everything. Dimitri with the insane damage and my +def -spd Morgan tanking better than most of my units). I might just wait to see if there's a legendary/mythic banner with Male Morgan because I really want him too. Definitely one of the best banners I've ever spent all my saved orbs on. They're all strong and they're all really fun too. Edit: Summoned one red orb on an absolute whim. Got Male Morgan LMAOOOO
Do you think it's possible that we get a re-run with the previous Fallen banners such as Darkness Within or Dark Burdens this month (or anytime soon) ?
I was saving orbs but fallen heroes are my weakness, i got both morgans and dimitri for spark i now that edelgard us the star but i love it Female morgan is my favorite of all :3
I personally like f!dimitri's weapon like, it's simple, +6 atk/spd if alone and if he cannot make a follow up attack he just gets to deal 1.5 damage (instead of 1)
Does the -6 atk/res in fallen male morgan's weapon count towards the total penalties to activate the weapon's abilities? And if i were to give him close foil would the +5 atk/def bonus from it count towards the total count as well? And also does lull atk/res count too?
I think in a vacuum with no buffs or debuffs, Morgan will do less Damage than Julia or Kiria. But if you’re constantly using debuffs, buffs, and his menace C-Skill, he absolutely dunks on both in terms of damage and Longevity. Kiria is bulky on both sides but does not have auto follow up while Julia has auto follow up but is hindered by “low” defense. Morgan has both of these plus Guard and a mini dual phase Impact effect. The only way Julia can potentially outshine Morgan is that at max investment, Julia can actually break through some slow units Impact skills like Wary fighter or Fallen Morgans tome since she can reach 30+ Speed. Personally, I consider Morgan to actually be as strong or even stronger than Fallen Edelgard
Hi. I just got Fallen Dimitri plus atk. Minus res and was so happy. I plus 15 him with dragon flowers. Gave him heavy blade 4 and galeforce. Def smoke 3 But he is horrible 😢 he dies to everything in the tower even after all the very heavy investment I did. Could you please help me. I was excited for Dimitri but sad this unit dies to everything on auto. Thank you.
Falllen Dimitri is not an Auto-Battle unit unfortunately, he performs best in the player phase in the hands of the player. Your investment isn't wasted it's just that you are using him in auto battle where tanky units thrive.
Wish I'd gotten Dimitri 😞 On another note, ngl, the Morgans are pretty game breaking. Because of the amount of debufs and buff scaling, they can violate the weapon triangle itself, negate hella damage, and give a hard retaliation.
Hello PM1, can u please put blessing suggestions for your arena builds? For example since ffmorgan is good against lchrom I should give her water blessing?
I am a little disappointed in Dimitri, perhaps that's why RNGesus gave me 2 of them with perfect IVs. If he just had special cd-1 he would be so much better, or if he just put more of his Def in spd he would also be better. Or if his weapons extra damage applied to avoiding followups due to natural speed. He's so close to being great, but he's just not quite there while his legendary alt and the rest of the banner are.
About how many orbs does it take to reach 40 summons?? I'm wondering if I should just pull colorless for Edelgard and go to colorless hell or see if I have enough orbs to pull for Dimitri and spark Edelgard.
I have an issue with Dimitri's weapon, the 50% extra damage doesn't seem to happen. That's at least in terms of being speed matched, but it could just be that his weapon means if the opponent has an effect that prevents his follow up, but it should be the case for being speed matched in my opinion because the unit cannot make a followup attack...
I just tried myself and I'm pretty sure the damage boost works for speed match as well (tested against Shamir in story mode, he does a 71 with 82 atk against 24 def, which is 82*0.8-24+(82-24)/2). Is your dimitri not solo when you tried? Because all his weapon effects requires him to be solo.
@@shirleyg171 that's probably it. I did think he was solo, but it was against a Gaius and I can't see him speed matching 53 speed without support... I probably just wasn't paying attention to another unit that he moved next to.
IS really thought Fallen Edelgard was fine with her like 10 effects, but then thought "Nah, slaying effect on Fallen Dimitri would be too broken." Man. 😕
Me: *skeptical of M!Morgan because of competition and B!Hector’s existence* PM1: *convinces me that he’s really good* Me: “he’s outta line but he’s right”
Morgans: When IS wants 5 effects but they don't want the trouble of making up another exclusive skill F!Edelgard: Beast, Armor and movement weakness = 5 + 3 extra effects. F!Dimitri: * B!Dimitri is Enemy Phase * L! Dimitri is Dual Phase * F! Dimitri must be Player Phase Employee: Isn't normal Dimitri already PP? IS: Who? Employee: Nevermind
So I'm not the only one that did a double take when I saw Sabotage Def 3 on Morgan, good to know. I want to say that they wanted him to do something that could help his allies, but for all we know it was a misclick or something :l
I recommend sparking by F! F Morgan if you want to do the Plegian ax build with the summoner, besides she's good as F**k si why not... but if you want you can spark for F! M Morgan and use him perfectly.
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Who is your favorite Fallen Unit in FEH?
❱ FALLEN EDELGARD DOMINATES! Review, Builds & Counters to F!Edelgard! - ua-cam.com/video/DYrgFhQKJuc/v-deo.html
Fallen Julia. Dragon Fangs her opponents away when solo.
Celica or takumi
Favorite Fallen unit? Kind of a tough call, but I guess I'd go with Celica.
Probably would have to say Corrin, I just love her artstyle and she still does work for me
My boi! I mean my Dimitri of course.
Dimitri when he sees that all his alts are lances: is this some kind of twisted joke?
infantry lances, too
@@yeahme437 his alt at the officers academy is cavalry
@@leahs28 oh no
With Fallen Dimitri being Dimitri's 3rd lance alt, we officially now have Dimitri Lance Emblem. Would love to see an arena video of that.
Oh yeah
Today I encountered Edelgard Emblem and Dimitri emblem in the same Arena Assault
@@tierlis422 we just need another Claude
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There are so many "unit's HP > 25%" effects it may as well be "unit exists" effects.
It kinda is with edel if run with mystic boost lmao
Maybe it will be a good counter if we get more duos skills like Hector where you can damage their health without going into combat. And then partner it up with those aoe specials like L!Lilina.
@@MarcusXD100 if a character's atk can reach 60 or above above I can switch out for noontime or sol and it keeps the bonus much longer and they will still hit hard enough
@@nightwish1453 I think for F!Edelgard that's overkill most of the time. A lot of units have problem reducing her hp at all even without mystic boost seal.
@@andyhaochizhangwasn't really referring to F!Edelgard but characters like fallen Celica, F.morgans and F.Julia can do it and do it well plus their weapons are more demanding with Hp Thresholds or they benefit more with a heal special
God Pheonixmaster1 is the best Fire Emblem Heros person to follow! Gives so much detailed information and gives his opinions on why they work. Love it!
Thank you Ray! :D
How powerful is FALLEN DIMITRI? Pheonixmaster1: Yes
PM1: Not as FEdelgard
F!Edelgard: Am I a joke to you?
best answer
Fallen dimitri is blue infantry v!catria as what L!dimitri is to b!alm
omg, who gives a damn if a comment is original, it's not like they're spamming first
Edelgard is so controversial, that she gets an entire video to herself LMAOOO
Fallen Dimitri literally just hitting people like a Small Country
Dimitri hitting like Sokovia lmao
Dmitri hitting like Duscur
@@dannyarcana0017 duscur missed out on that b slot tho
Meanwhile edelgard hitting like the rashidun caliphate
Feh saw we didn’t have much lance infrantry and decided to flood us with powerful ones, granted Dimitri makes up 3 of them.
Kris and A!Anna are the other 2 and that's pretty much it (until Fjorm gets her refine)
Fallen Dimitri does hit like a truck. He'll hit your units so hard that once they die, they'll be sent to yet another -world- summoner
You mean that all this time, the true identity of Truck-kun was actually Fallen Dimitri?
Whoever keeps throwing all their Raighs at Fallen Dimitri, please stop
Someone throw you female fallen Morgan infront of Dimitri
Fallen Dimitri and Fallen Female Morgan have been my favourite units to use so far in the game
Agreed
@@zesanx Noice, hope you've gotten F!Female Morgan
Man, I love the artwork for Dima.
The fallen banner breakdown, aka "why you should use Galeforce on this unit"
Every unit that doesnt have atleast 60 defense when they see a fallen dimitri: IS THIS SOME KIND OF TWISTED JOKE?
I checked the title on this video and was like, "Huh, where's Edelgard?"
Then I saw her own separate video as the next video I should watch.
But, silly Phoenix, ALL Dimitris hit like a TRUCK
So if F!Edelgard is broken and F!Dimitri hits like a truck, what does that make Male and Female Fallen Morgan?
Female Morgan is one of the tankiest axe fliers I've ever seen
And F!Morgan is tanky as heck. He's just a better F!Julia whos already quite good, he doesn't have Light and Dark but can stop enemy follow ups and has guard
@@Greideren Yeah, both Morgans excel at being tanks. No one really talks about how minmaxed their stats really are.
@@frisolaxod3835 They're both very good, just a tad overshadowed.
The Morgans ARE the trucks.
F!Dimitri like a truck, more like F!Dimitri is a truck, am I right?
Still day 111 of telling PM1 not to overwork himself, and to stay safe during COVID-19.
Ninja yari, FB4 and moonbow woke well with F Dimitri, galeforce going to make him can’t do much on high defense enemies and you can use chain smite on him to put him in front of the enmey then he can canto out for 4 move; it’s like a mini galeforce if you can set him up like that.
If we ever get a times pulse sacred seal fallen dimitri will be absolutely bonkers!
Fallen Dimitri thinks that big damage is everything, so he gets +3 atk instead of slaying and has the astra blade effect if he can't double instead of getting NFU.
That, or IS wanted to try to "balance" him as much as they could, though that argument kind of falls flat when you look at what they did for fallen edelgard.
Imo Fallen Dimitri is the second easiest Dimitri to take out.
@@Peace141308 As someone who doesn't use Nul CD on BIke, he's the most annoying to take out with a non spd dependent sweep effect.
The others just die against Aether.
@@Erowax The thing is, he's only annoying on the offense, if he's on enemy phase he's basically a sitting duck, literally any mage running a skill like lance breaker can rip him to shreds
@@Peace141308 thats honestly pretty correct to fe three houses lol
Ninja Boar Dimitri having 8 Resistance made me laugh even though he looks insane that way
11:22 or 4 if you have a spare divine code winter ephraim lying around
FALLEN EDELGARD IS OP. Oh yeah and here are the other guys that I probably should talk about
It's ironic how Fallen Dimitri is supposed to not care about getting harmed when he fights, but his B skill does pretty much the opposite
He prevents foes from attacking him back, and then he runs away like a little bitch afterwards. Why, IS?
superbane in pretty much 3 stats tho
Comment for the algorithm
Let me just bless the algorithm of another comment hoping that this video would find someone
Waiting for this, Save Dimitri u.u
Autolike :)
Hmm, for the FDimitri ARO build is it advisable to use Ninja Yari+ instead? I don't have a Curtains I can spare. I plan on max investing eventually as well.
_honey wake up new PM1 upload_
but yayyyy!! finally a video going through fallen female morgan! havent seen any videos or showcases of her for some reason so this is nice
I cant wait until the 20th Edelgard comes out and she has a whole book for her skills
As someone who got both Morgans, this video gave me a lot of ideas of what to do with them. Null Follow Up with M! Morgan is genius!
F!Dim gets +3 atk and not -1 special cooldown, complicating everything about him and Galeforce. Yay.
At least F!Edel is busted
Fallen Dimitri is such a great unit and I'm already getting good use out of him. My only complaint is that rng gave me -atk
Still bummed that "kill every last one of them!" Isn't a special trigger quote :/
After numerous battles I have to say Fallen El was a mistake. Who thought this monstrosity was fair and balanced?
F! Edelgard was a mistake but she has a Big weakness: AoE specials, L! Lilina OneShot her in My runs (i have her with her base kit) other options are: Ophelia, Lysithea, Plegian Mages cuz why not... And the Star of the show Micaiah who can do lots of damage due to the Armored efective tome that she has no matter the alt... Brave Micaiah actually got a kill on that thing
"who thought this monstrosity was fair and balanced?"
She's not, and she's only a sign of more broken things to come in the future. FEH is a gambling sim at its core after all.
Dimitri is nasty, i do think his best build at max investment should be flashing blade 4 with ninja yari and time's pulse.
Unless the enemy tank has wary fighter, he will hit for 40 in just true damage in 1 turn, 60 with a dancer, nothing survives.
Flashing blade 4 will counter special fighter as well making sure you get galeforce no matter what if you are running time's pulse.
I tested out a base neutral F!F!Morgan with DC Guard Bearing and no seal against a +10 +Atk 10flower L!Chrom with full buffs and Ideal + Solo fully active. As long as her weapon's fully active she doesn't even need Iotes Shield and she lives the shot and kills L!Chrom. So honestly you don't really need to run Iotes on her that much. The Morgans are super overlooked on this banner, they are insanely strong.
Yeah. my F!Morgan got insanely good IVs with -spd +def and she's one of the best tanks I have
Hey PM1, I used my forma soul on Larcei and gave her ruptured sky as her special thinking she would still come with regnal astra. For some reason she doesn't have it or any of her base kit for that matter. Will I have to summon a Larcei and merge her to be able to get her base kit on her?
Go to learn skills > Learn Regnal Astra :)
You have to learn them.
oop lmao, thanks bro. I was ready to run bellringer Larcei
seeing sabotage def on morgan really gives you the idea of what if we had a mage that hits def instead of res. the best counter to mages is just better mages, most mages have high res and low def so a def hitting mage would be truly something special.
Dimitri hit like a truck
Me: what else is new
If you wanted to go extra crazy mode, you *could* give Female Morgan Atk/Def Catch 4
I wonder if that's a thing in anyone's barracks yet...
Y know what I like most about these fallen units and their other previous variants? They’re all lore accurate too.
The Morgan’s are indeed a powerful force when led by Grima.
Academy 3H lords are very well rounded.
Their legendary versions are also equally as well rounded but more optimized for their specific roles. They’re also balanced in such a way that they’re equally as good at attacking and conquering in player phase as they are at defending and protecting in enemy phase.
Brave versions of the lords are done with their journeys and fighting in general so they’re mostly enemy phase focused and not all that focused on attacking.
The fallen 3H lords however are extremely conquest driven one way or another so they’re practically hyper offensive to reflect their ferocity towards everything in their way
Side note, I think I remember reading your comment on a dream I had like 1 month ago.
Edelgard Alts:
-Academy
-Flame Emperor
-Legendary
-Brave
-Fallen
Dmitri Alts:
-Academy
-Legendary
-Brave
-Fallen
Claude Alts:
-Academy
-Legendary
-Brave
I'm seriously concerned about the amount of Edelgard alts (yes, I consider Flame Emperor an alt) in comparison to Claude alts.
I hope he gets some other alt that isn't a seasonal (he deserves better than any holiday version)
I didn't want Dimitri to be in the banner because I knew that:
1) his status as fallen was debatable
2) he would be pretty much the same as his legendary version. I even speculated pretty much his kit a few days before the banner and got it almost right: a new Areadbhar, high atk/spd, a solo skill, Atrocity (just like with Julia) and odd tempest.
IS should have really swaped Dimitri with, well, pretty much any other available fallen. They have a good pool to choose from, and Edelgard is the star anyway, so she's going to be the most sparked unit.
My favorite unit from this banner is Male Morgan the close counter build is what I'm running right now but I have quick ripsote for insurance in his seal
I haven't really been keeping up with FEH news that much these past month. And man, i missed you, PM1!
Btw, thanks to you, i often mispell "Phoenix" now 🤣
the fact that Dimitri‘s default build is focused on being alone 🥺 flashbacks to lovely lines like „Go away“ and „What must I do to be rid of you?“
My favorite thing to do with Fallen Dimitri is run Atk/Spd Ideal and Time's Pulse with Heavy Blade and have Annette just give him the Rally and Extra Movement.
How does dimitri get powercrept twice in less than a year by 2 versions with the same weapon type and movement?
L!Dimitri is still overall better than Fallen Dimitri though so I wouldn’t say he powercrept him
The three of them are made for different roles...
@@rogelio723_dx3 Yeah. People look at L!Dimitri and F!Dimitri's stats and assume they're the same when it's really different. L!Dimitri can't really take the units F!Dimitri cuts through easily. In exchange L!Dimitri can really do some work with debuffs and has better teamplay and mixed phase potential. L!Dimitri isn't really made for killing many tanks unlike F!Dimitri.
L!Dimitri is far better than F!Dimitri. I dont want either of them initiating on me and it's always scary initiating on L!Dimitri cuz even green mages get one shot if they don't fo enough damage to get past the DR.
@@frisolaxod3835 F! Dimitri it's more of a hit and run unit and L! Dimitri it's more of a mixed phase unit who depending of their kit can do a lot, while B! Dimitri it's a physical tank
The best part of this banner is that in Forging Bonds, F!Morgan refers to her own evil twin as Mo-Mo. I think I.S. is trying to tell us something about who her mom is. ;)
i cant believe a viable build has a total of 8 res. this is insane
Can't wait for my Spurn Rinkah to barbecue her first +10 Fallen Dimitri in Arena.
Personally I'm the most excited about Mo-Mo the Second on this banner. If only I had regular F!Morgan so I could support them.
Listen, friends of PM1. They say "never read the comments" on the internet, but I always read the quality/wholesome/informative comments on these videos. Thank you for all collectively being awesome
have dimitri and edelgard in my second account, in fact you just need to "push" dimitri in melee range and in fact I feel like he's scarier in player hand, he doesn't even need his special to one shot with his huge attack.
Felix: Hey Dimitri what should I do with all these pickles.
Dimitri: *DILL EVERY LAST ONE OF THEM!*
"Putting Special Spiral on F!Dimitri means he doesn't get Odd Tempest"
Me, with L! Sigurd: "Oh no! Anyways"
I'd spark Dimitri if I get Edelgard earlier, he is cuuuuuute=3
will you do a update on your feh tier list?
S: F!Edelgard
F: Everyone else
@@lorddragonskin3603 when you're salty that you cant enemy phase every character
@@AnaroshScend not really. I was doing this as a meme rather than a tierlist.
The gameplay is shifting, so it means that there is a chance for innovation for strategy. Which is always good in a strategy game.
I apologize if I came out as salty. I guess writing doesn't always convey the subtleties of speech.
I got F!F!Morgan, Selena and got an Edelgard on the 40th summon! I went with Edelgard for the spark because the one I pulled was -def +spd
I haven't played a lot of Fire Emblem games, so I'm pretty curious on just how many more Fallen Heroes are there in the whole franchise, canon and non-canon (Cipher Cards etc.).
So far, these I know:
Gunter (Fates: Revelation)
Darios (Warriors)
Risen King Chrom (Awakening Cipher Card)
Deadlords (Thracia) and Morphs (Blazing Blade) created from dead characters
Dedue (Three Houses: Crimson Flower)
Gustav (Heroes Book III)
Though not part of a Fallen Banner, I consider Lif and Thrasir as Fallen Alfonse and Veronica.
I love every last one of them!
Fallen male Morgan looking at the thumbnail and seeing F!Edelgard isn’t in this video: *”She doesn’t even go here!”*
I've got mine with Atk/Defense Solo Seal and Attack/Res Rouse C slot, and at merge +1 with and Atk Boon, he has 66 base attack + 6 from Rouse, +6 from weapon, +6 from seal, +7 from Attack/Speed Solo = 91 Atk
ughhh I spent all my orbs and got F!Morgan and Dimitri with great IVs + Edelgard as a spar. But I got 100 orbs and I want Fallen Morgan but idk if I should. I really want all the units in this banner they all are so fun to play with (Edelgard with her...everything. Dimitri with the insane damage and my +def -spd Morgan tanking better than most of my units).
I might just wait to see if there's a legendary/mythic banner with Male Morgan because I really want him too.
Definitely one of the best banners I've ever spent all my saved orbs on. They're all strong and they're all really fun too.
Edit: Summoned one red orb on an absolute whim. Got Male Morgan LMAOOOO
Do you think it's possible that we get a re-run with the previous Fallen banners such as Darkness Within or Dark Burdens this month (or anytime soon) ?
I was saving orbs but fallen heroes are my weakness, i got both morgans and dimitri for spark i now that edelgard us the star but i love it
Female morgan is my favorite of all :3
I personally like f!dimitri's weapon like, it's simple, +6 atk/spd if alone and if he cannot make a follow up attack he just gets to deal 1.5 damage (instead of 1)
People complain about powercreep but why complain when new heroes are so min maxed that we can have 8 res Dimitri
Does the -6 atk/res in fallen male morgan's weapon count towards the total penalties to activate the weapon's abilities? And if i were to give him close foil would the +5 atk/def bonus from it count towards the total count as well? And also does lull atk/res count too?
It uses visible debuffs and visible buffs so no.
@@Pheonixmaster1 ah sik now i understand thnx for the fast reply :))
I think in a vacuum with no buffs or debuffs, Morgan will do less Damage than Julia or Kiria. But if you’re constantly using debuffs, buffs, and his menace C-Skill, he absolutely dunks on both in terms of damage and Longevity. Kiria is bulky on both sides but does not have auto follow up while Julia has auto follow up but is hindered by “low” defense. Morgan has both of these plus Guard and a mini dual phase Impact effect. The only way Julia can potentially outshine Morgan is that at max investment, Julia can actually break through some slow units Impact skills like Wary fighter or Fallen Morgans tome since she can reach 30+ Speed. Personally, I consider Morgan to actually be as strong or even stronger than Fallen Edelgard
so glad this is getting rerun probably after those twitter polls
Hi. I just got Fallen Dimitri plus atk. Minus res and was so happy. I plus 15 him with dragon flowers. Gave him heavy blade 4 and galeforce. Def smoke 3
But he is horrible 😢 he dies to everything in the tower even after all the very heavy investment I did. Could you please help me. I was excited for Dimitri but sad this unit dies to everything on auto. Thank you.
Falllen Dimitri is not an Auto-Battle unit unfortunately, he performs best in the player phase in the hands of the player. Your investment isn't wasted it's just that you are using him in auto battle where tanky units thrive.
@@Pheonixmaster1 ahh ok. Thank you. 😊 that explains it more.
Wish I'd gotten Dimitri 😞
On another note, ngl, the Morgans are pretty game breaking. Because of the amount of debufs and buff scaling, they can violate the weapon triangle itself, negate hella damage, and give a hard retaliation.
Hello PM1, can u please put blessing suggestions for your arena builds? For example since ffmorgan is good against lchrom I should give her water blessing?
Yes, I will definitely consider that in future. Thank you for your feedback, Leo!
I am a little disappointed in Dimitri, perhaps that's why RNGesus gave me 2 of them with perfect IVs. If he just had special cd-1 he would be so much better, or if he just put more of his Def in spd he would also be better. Or if his weapons extra damage applied to avoiding followups due to natural speed. He's so close to being great, but he's just not quite there while his legendary alt and the rest of the banner are.
My girl Female Morgan is looking great. Time to spend all my orbs to get her. She'll be a nice merge.
Whats a good party comp for Fallen Male Morgan?
Got a question, would it be worth running Atk/Def Catch 4 on Female Fallen Morgan?
About how many orbs does it take to reach 40 summons?? I'm wondering if I should just pull colorless for Edelgard and go to colorless hell or see if I have enough orbs to pull for Dimitri and spark Edelgard.
I have an issue with Dimitri's weapon, the 50% extra damage doesn't seem to happen. That's at least in terms of being speed matched, but it could just be that his weapon means if the opponent has an effect that prevents his follow up, but it should be the case for being speed matched in my opinion because the unit cannot make a followup attack...
I just tried myself and I'm pretty sure the damage boost works for speed match as well (tested against Shamir in story mode, he does a 71 with 82 atk against 24 def, which is 82*0.8-24+(82-24)/2). Is your dimitri not solo when you tried? Because all his weapon effects requires him to be solo.
@@shirleyg171 that's probably it. I did think he was solo, but it was against a Gaius and I can't see him speed matching 53 speed without support... I probably just wasn't paying attention to another unit that he moved next to.
I got a second copy of Legendary Sigurd to give Female Morgan Atk/Def Catch 4. Is it worth replacing her Atk/Def Solo 4?
IS really thought Fallen Edelgard was fine with her like 10 effects, but then thought "Nah, slaying effect on Fallen Dimitri would be too broken." Man. 😕
Lets hope that his refine will have slaying. Only have to wait for like 3 years or so
Me: *skeptical of M!Morgan because of competition and B!Hector’s existence*
PM1: *convinces me that he’s really good*
Me: “he’s outta line but he’s right”
"I understood that reference"
@@Pheonixmaster1 “I can do this all day”
I have a question, I already pulled Edelgard but I am ready to spark someone, who should I choose, I´m not sure whether to choose Dimitri or F Morgan
Eh fed both Morgans to my Corrin for those Menace skills, currently have Atk/Res Menace on her.
Fallen Dimitri hits so hard like the truck you see that sends the MC to an Isekai world.
Orson aside, these are probably the most powerful Fallen units we've gotten.
Question would wyvern flight combo well with female Morgen’s weapon I was just wondering?
No, she is too slow to utilize it even at +10
@@Pheonixmaster1 Thax it was just a thought I had
PheonixMaster1: Dimitri can’t get Galeforce in one round
Me: I n f a n t r y P u l s e
I already have +1 fallen edelgard should I sparked for fallen Dimitri or make +2 Fallen edelgard ? Or maybe get Morgan for fodder ?
Spark for someone else other then El, I recommend Dimitri but look at your army first, which role that you need the most.
Morgans: When IS wants 5 effects but they don't want the trouble of making up another exclusive skill
F!Edelgard: Beast, Armor and movement weakness = 5 + 3 extra effects.
F!Dimitri:
* B!Dimitri is Enemy Phase
* L! Dimitri is Dual Phase
* F! Dimitri must be Player Phase
Employee: Isn't normal Dimitri already PP?
IS: Who?
Employee: Nevermind
You've been hit by
You've been struck by Dimitri (truck)
So with Female Morgan, if you run an impact skill does it auto do all three conditions on her weapon since it’s +16, or am I just dumb?
I thought so at first too, but no it just uses visible buffs and debuffs.
Me reacting to Dimitri's atk stat, now that's more like it.
Amazing
I got a fallen Dimitri today :D
He is -att :0
So I'm not the only one that did a double take when I saw Sabotage Def 3 on Morgan, good to know. I want to say that they wanted him to do something that could help his allies, but for all we know it was a misclick or something :l
My Dimitri is +Atk/-res
He’s ridiculous 😅
my Y!Minerva was the lucky recipient of DiveBomb and Atk/Def Menace
Question: I manage to get edelgard and Dimitri so who do I spark for? Male or female Morgan
I recommend sparking by F! F Morgan if you want to do the Plegian ax build with the summoner, besides she's good as F**k si why not... but if you want you can spark for F! M Morgan and use him perfectly.
I was wondering if fallen dimitri is better than legendary dimitri?