THIS LATE MEDIEVAL BATTLE IS INTENSE - Battle of Pavia - 1212AD Medieval Total War

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  • Опубліковано 16 січ 2023
  • This is a Historical recreation of the Battle of Pavia. The game is Total War: Attila with the Mod 1212AD Medieval Kingdoms!
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  • @alcoolamus4208
    @alcoolamus4208 Рік тому +643

    The Swiss mercenaries were quite important in the French army during the Italian wars so it’s natural they’re represented here

    • @tele_gram__me_TaylorsTravels
      @tele_gram__me_TaylorsTravels Рік тому

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    • @mandranmagelan9430
      @mandranmagelan9430 Рік тому +4

      yea, but they look funny (somehow...)

    • @mnk9073
      @mnk9073 Рік тому +27

      @@mandranmagelan9430 They always do, look at the later Reisläufer: They basically went to war in the most offensively garish pimp-outfit they could find.

    • @mandranmagelan9430
      @mandranmagelan9430 Рік тому +12

      @@mnk9073 yea, you're right 🙂
      but these (modern) code of arms on their shields are still kind of funny...

    • @Chewie1212
      @Chewie1212 Рік тому +1

      @@mandranmagelan9430 coat**

  • @Peptuck
    @Peptuck Рік тому +358

    While Venice didn't fight alongside France in the Battle of Pavia, the Marquesat of Saluzzo did, and they were an Italian region in northern Italy. So them being represented by Venice would make sense.

    • @acdragonrider
      @acdragonrider Рік тому +10

      Venice was definitely a consistently ally of France

    • @KixSlim
      @KixSlim Рік тому +12

      Also Venice was allied with France during this war but didn’t partake in this specific battle, so their inclusion seems warranted.

    • @mdkefren
      @mdkefren Рік тому +1

      Not soo much. They had whole different classes of troops.

    • @canemcave
      @canemcave Рік тому

      @@acdragonrider not at all, Venice fought the kingdom of France on numerous occasions. In fact, Venice had one time or another to fight against all major European powers.
      Just in that period:
      first Italian war - 1495 - the league of Venice fought against France
      war of the League of Cambrai - Venice fought against France from 1508 to 1513
      After the war of the League of Cambrai, Venice took a neutral stand in the European theater of war, concentrating primarily in defending against the Ottomans (there were some exceptions due to force majeure like the naval battle against the Spanish fleet at Gibraltar in 1618).
      Not to mention when fighting against its long time rival and enemy Genoa many of the troops and commanders were French, and on top of that the French were regularly allied with the Ottomans.
      So no, Venice was not a traditional ally to France, Venice was a much more consistent ally to Florence, than France.

    • @carlomagno7092
      @carlomagno7092 5 місяців тому

      Not in the slightest dude, The Republic of Venice was an England of the mediterranean always against popery and France. France was ally of the ottomans during the war of Cyprus.

  • @MohammedAbdulNoor
    @MohammedAbdulNoor Рік тому +65

    Ahhh after so many months finally MKTW 1212 AD video thanks bro I really enjoyed it.

  • @mrawesome6504
    @mrawesome6504 Рік тому +45

    4:29 "look at the butterflies, you see the butterflies, amazing."

  • @sotirisl9388
    @sotirisl9388 Рік тому +71

    We need more Byzantine plays

    • @tele_gram__me_TaylorsTravels
      @tele_gram__me_TaylorsTravels Рік тому

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    • @OperatorMax1993
      @OperatorMax1993 Рік тому +1

      Agreed, and i love how the MK1212 modders added exclusive or have units that look different for the successor states of Epirus, Latin Empire, Nicaea and Trebizond to stand out

    • @sotirisl9388
      @sotirisl9388 Рік тому +4

      @@OperatorMax1993 yeah , based ,but every time I see Byzantium or the rump states in action,they always lose , like if it was a historical battle ,fine , but not in every single match dude ! I can't enjoy the game if 1/10 matches has my no1 nation in it and it always loses

    • @OperatorMax1993
      @OperatorMax1993 Рік тому +1

      @@sotirisl9388 yeah man! It's like original Medieval 2 where they always lose 99% of the time! I can't a enjoy the game if 1/10 matches has my no1 nation in ot and always loses neither!

  • @mikeciommer1024
    @mikeciommer1024 Рік тому +27

    I love this historical battles and the way Apollo is commentating them.
    No overanalysing how players use the games mechanics correctly or incorrectly. Just focusing on the battle and how it is playing out.

  • @viperpoof
    @viperpoof Рік тому +22

    "look at this huge amazing battle people are going to die it's going to be a huge fight there's going to be blood everywhere it's going to be gruesome it's going to be something to remember the- Whoa look at the butterflies"

  • @BeStOHoLd
    @BeStOHoLd Рік тому +38

    I´ve always love the way this battle is depicted in M2TW where the Spanish instead of capturing the French king (thats what historically happened, btw), flee the field of battle just to give credit to the player for his death or capture XD

    • @josephwalukonis9934
      @josephwalukonis9934 9 місяців тому

      By 1525 Knights/men-at-arms no longer used shields. French infantry no longer used pavaises and spears. This type of infantry was used at Crecy and Poitiers but by Agincourt they were not used.

    • @BeStOHoLd
      @BeStOHoLd 9 місяців тому

      @@josephwalukonis9934 i suppose they use those units just to show the more poor equiped troops in the field.

  • @trix5211
    @trix5211 Рік тому +39

    as far as i know, on Pavia there was only frenchies and Habsburg troops (both spanish and austrian ones, mainly spanish tho)

    • @joundii3100
      @joundii3100 Рік тому +4

      No, it was mostly French, Germanics and Italians.

    • @RoulicisThe
      @RoulicisThe Рік тому +12

      Germans and spanish allies vs French and italians supported by swiss mercenaries. it was a big melting pot

    • @krystofcisar469
      @krystofcisar469 3 місяці тому

      there was definitely plenty of landsknechts and swiss mercenaries and I´d assume thet wouldnt be all of it.

  • @TheWeezyfly
    @TheWeezyfly Рік тому +107

    I'm so proud of apollo. Only if he would bring back his Atila series

  • @alcoolamus4208
    @alcoolamus4208 Рік тому +6

    Yess 1212 is back on the menu!

  • @arabian9372
    @arabian9372 Рік тому +7

    2:25 that made me lol
    this video makes me wanna go back and download Attila, Great video Apollo! Keep at it

    • @polatyilmaz3547
      @polatyilmaz3547 Рік тому +1

      This mod looks awesome but it had a lot of glitches when i played it.

  • @khronostheavenger8923
    @khronostheavenger8923 Рік тому +88

    "The HRE is neither Holy, Roman, or an Empire" -Voltaire
    In the words of a brilliant man, Voltaire can choke on a baguette!

    • @josephpeck8723
      @josephpeck8723 Рік тому +6

      He made an excellent point though.

    • @louisryan5815
      @louisryan5815 Рік тому +7

      I don't much care for Voltaire as a historical figure, but analyzing the late Holy Roman Empire would most likely lead one to the same conclusion

    • @mlibo5868
      @mlibo5868 Рік тому +6

      You have to be Centrilized to be an Empire

    • @GAMER123GAMING
      @GAMER123GAMING Рік тому +2

      @@louisryan5815 I analyzed it and i figured it to be the best empire in medieval history

    • @GAMER123GAMING
      @GAMER123GAMING Рік тому

      @@mlibo5868 It was

  • @seancollins3827
    @seancollins3827 Рік тому +10

    So glad this is back

  • @arcanos4167
    @arcanos4167 Рік тому +40

    In fact the so called Holy Roman Empire would at that time be named Heiliges Römisches Reich Deutscher Nation which translates to Holy Roman Empire of (the) German Nation so HRE is still correct if you just use it as a shorter nickname ♥

  • @ethanhughes7462
    @ethanhughes7462 Рік тому +4

    Thanks again man always such a joy to turn on one of your videos

  • @pulsewatcher0ad
    @pulsewatcher0ad Рік тому +3

    "God I hate Mondays" - Franch

  • @Darthdoodoo
    @Darthdoodoo Рік тому +3

    I always love these battles. Doing historical battles holds so much potential

  • @stephenbaluran1177
    @stephenbaluran1177 Рік тому +4

    21:00 I don't know who the saint on that flag is, but he looks high af. "Give peace a chance, you guys." Great commentary, Apollo, as always!

    • @gustavomartins72
      @gustavomartins72 15 днів тому

      I think its Santiago as a pilgrim, patron of Spain and knights

  • @danegerrard2884
    @danegerrard2884 Рік тому +5

    Haven't watched in a while, been a fan for a few years now... the sweet armour sets pulled me in for a nostalgic bit of Apollo + TW 💪

  • @juanmolinafernandez3983
    @juanmolinafernandez3983 Рік тому +2

    If this is the battle of Pavia, I'm a pink flamingo. XD

  • @danielelliott95
    @danielelliott95 5 місяців тому

    I can’t get over how good and shiny that armor is whenever I watch videos with this mod. 1212AD is by far the one I watch the most.

  • @PercevalR
    @PercevalR Рік тому +7

    Historical battles never get old !

  • @thebosshavoc3530
    @thebosshavoc3530 Рік тому +12

    Finally! More 1212ad

  • @Matthew-br5ci
    @Matthew-br5ci Рік тому +7

    Congratulations apollo for 900k subs keep up the good vids

  • @sadcabbage5105
    @sadcabbage5105 Рік тому +1

    My God what an intro! I haven't watched you in years but I finally remembered you and this is the first video I'm watching!

  • @Princeton5
    @Princeton5 6 місяців тому

    I love the excitment and energy pixie is showing here

  • @Bassist2295
    @Bassist2295 Рік тому +8

    I live close to the castle of mirabello, where the battle happened, in one of the farmhouses next to the one Francis the I was held prisoner in.
    Can say it doesn't/didn't look like this at all

  • @stargamerdude3592
    @stargamerdude3592 Рік тому +13

    More 1212AD pls!

  • @ianloney3756
    @ianloney3756 Рік тому

    Excited to watch my yearly apollo video

  • @Tzaousios
    @Tzaousios Рік тому +12

    I'm pretty sure Charles V was not at the battle. However, Francis I was, and he was also captured.

  • @donaldgrant9067
    @donaldgrant9067 Рік тому +1

    Totally unreal. I was there and I didn't see me running like crazy over the hills and dales back to mama.

  • @Jomsviking1245
    @Jomsviking1245 Рік тому

    Another great video Apollo keep it up

  • @thomasjackson4059
    @thomasjackson4059 Рік тому

    I love that all I had to type in to find your Chanel was “pixe”

  • @ostland_staat2356
    @ostland_staat2356 Рік тому +2

    1525 Jörg von Frundsberg a commander of the HRE with 12,000 men and 29 flag-bearers, relived Pavia an save the duchy of Milan. he won most his battles and captured the french king. he is a important figure in the history of the landsknechts next to emperor Maximilian I. unfortunately one son was killed in 1524 an his grandson in 1586 dooming his family branch to the sands of time. also the swiss mercs and the landsknechts had a intense rivalry to the point if they came across each other, they would engage in Bad war and give nor take any quarter

  • @Frozenmenss1
    @Frozenmenss1 Рік тому +1

    ''This might be what France needs here and here comes another Rally charge by the Holy Roman Empire...'' Nevermind...

  • @therealmanman7576
    @therealmanman7576 Рік тому +7

    Can you do a 1212 ad campaign but you probably wouldn’t finish it

  • @aniasscott
    @aniasscott Рік тому +4

    your vids are really good keep it up

  • @OperatorMax1993
    @OperatorMax1993 Рік тому +3

    Awesome to see you still do Medieval Kingdoms 1212 stuff, looking forward to seeing the late starting date

  • @macromagno8029
    @macromagno8029 Рік тому +6

    Actually it was not the SIRG, it was spanish Empire

  • @Panzer2435
    @Panzer2435 Рік тому +2

    I love this mod

  • @syedasharimam
    @syedasharimam Рік тому +1

    Congrats on 900k subs ❤️

  • @taylorhines589
    @taylorhines589 Рік тому +3

    There needs to be a morale debuff to having thin long lines of only 2 men deep. If you charge the center of a unit using a deep ranked regiment of men, it should auto kill all the men in the middle of the enemy formation, since their line of only 2men deep could not resist a 5 man deep charge, as well a unit should immediately route when it's center gets blown out after that.

  • @Topconsumer18
    @Topconsumer18 Рік тому +1

    2:40 you said they are neither holy roman or an empire in old 1212ad siege of constantinopole video :)

  • @javierferrerdalmau8381
    @javierferrerdalmau8381 8 місяців тому

    Hello, I am from Spain and I have an ancestor who was the one who met the King of France Francis on a farm. Thanks to that, and through other exploits, he was knighted. It's very funny to see a representation where he could be represented

  • @chrisjordan2784
    @chrisjordan2784 Рік тому +1

    People Who can play this are on their prime of enjoying what a fun and beautiful game really looks like cause its not call of duty or gta or the Kids fortnite

  • @f3wbs
    @f3wbs Рік тому +1

    I've kept historical multi replays for years. Never seen them on any channel lol.

  • @toastyyil4170
    @toastyyil4170 Рік тому

    Congrats on 900k

  • @Balthasar_Gelt
    @Balthasar_Gelt Рік тому +1

    some more 1212ad love it

  • @captainkangaroo316
    @captainkangaroo316 Рік тому +1

    Gotta love a bit of blood and gore

  • @jaymay7957
    @jaymay7957 Рік тому

    Man I would love to do some historical recreation videos with y’all

  • @eclipse_war5009
    @eclipse_war5009 Рік тому +4

    This was unexpected

  • @destroyerinazuma96
    @destroyerinazuma96 Рік тому +1

    There's a pretty dark manga called Wolfsmund where the Habsburg-appointed villain is facing the future Switzerland's insurgents.

    • @declanjones8888
      @declanjones8888 Рік тому

      That sounds cool, any more information on that manga?

    • @destroyerinazuma96
      @destroyerinazuma96 Рік тому +1

      @@declanjones8888 It's written by Kuji Mitsuhisa, a woman who was Kentaro Miura's assistant. Kentaro Miura created Berserk. Wolfsmund ("the wolf's maw") is a rather brutal no-magic medieval manga with a cunning and vicious antagonist whose work is to suppress rebels and enforce the Habsburgs' laws. The manga has several arcs which are rather stand-alone ish though it helps to have read the previous one to read the next ones. The arcs are a crescendo of violence (and I'd argue sadism from the villain) where "good guys" and innocents get crushed (for the most part). The reader might think that there's nothing these poor lads can do, but actually these people's struggle does get a payoff since the population gets fed up with both the Habsburgs and the villain. An uprising starts and his castle gets besieged. He can no longer send twenty guys after one schmuck in a village where everyone is too scared to resist when said village grew so resentful they'd rather fight to the death.

    • @declanjones8888
      @declanjones8888 Рік тому

      @@destroyerinazuma96 Man that sounds cool, I've got to read this.

  • @derTJAY
    @derTJAY Рік тому +1

    If I can get an Empire 2 or Medieval 3 in my hands this or next year I'd be so happy.

  • @Aaaaaaaaaahhh
    @Aaaaaaaaaahhh Рік тому

    The Lombard League might be that north Italian faction you spoke about.

  • @claudiotoplov7620
    @claudiotoplov7620 Рік тому +1

    funny we just spoke about this is history... In connection to the peasant wars and how the the payed soldiers than went back to massacre the peasants after this battle... And even made it possible for the peasant to even uprise...

  • @DaMzHn
    @DaMzHn Рік тому +1

    Long time no see, my lord.

  • @ValentineCorp
    @ValentineCorp 3 місяці тому

    Amazing!!

  • @endymion6165
    @endymion6165 Рік тому +1

    Been used to fantasy for too long. i was actually asking why were they all in a straight line 🤣🤣

  • @dunkg705
    @dunkg705 Рік тому +2

    Fuck ya 1212 is back

  • @acdragonrider
    @acdragonrider Рік тому

    6:50
    No the Imperator Carlos wasn’t present.
    Charles de Lannoy and Antonio de Leyva were two generals commanding the imperial forces

  • @miketora9073
    @miketora9073 Рік тому

    Thats awesome

  • @nsawatchlistbait289
    @nsawatchlistbait289 2 місяці тому

    Holy Roman Empire, the greatest oxymoron

  • @michastadnicki6240
    @michastadnicki6240 Рік тому

    I love it when Appolo do nerd xd

  • @escalope5553
    @escalope5553 9 місяців тому +2

    Its not the holy roman empire in fact the majority of the army was spanish. We were under the rule of EMPEROR charles I of spain and V of germany son of juana la loca (daughter of spanish kings elisabeth and fernando the catholics);and Felipe el hermoso (hasburg) the names are in spanish and in the game u can see the simbols of castille leon and aragon

  • @FutureDani
    @FutureDani Рік тому

    Hes back lets go woooooooo

  • @matthiasvanduysen8269
    @matthiasvanduysen8269 Рік тому +1

    MORE OF THISSSSSSS !!!!!!!

  • @tylerm4321
    @tylerm4321 Рік тому +2

    Sick nice vid

  • @LibertyPrime6969
    @LibertyPrime6969 Рік тому

    Love the video

  • @jackwitherbed1120
    @jackwitherbed1120 Рік тому

    Venice fought with the french in the League of Cognoc alongside English support and support from Pope Clement VII

  • @Kai-ol7zb
    @Kai-ol7zb Рік тому +1

    so cool!

  • @martinb4272
    @martinb4272 Рік тому

    The memes! Love the mockery of the unaviodable HRE correction comment.

  • @franciscovieiradesousa2746
    @franciscovieiradesousa2746 Рік тому +5

    Do a 1212 ad campaign

  • @Charlie-gt3pz
    @Charlie-gt3pz Рік тому +1

    Hey Apollo could you do some shogun 2 battles

  • @pablolomas4476
    @pablolomas4476 Рік тому

    Bro the battle of Pavia was Spain settling it’a argument with France about how the split the kingdom of Napolis

  • @IloszApfelbaum
    @IloszApfelbaum Рік тому

    guys how can i get this battlefield? Is it somewhere in game or do i need to download some mod?

  • @SerboFaca1
    @SerboFaca1 Рік тому +4

    I would really enjoy if u start 1212 campaign

  • @haileyciccone5104
    @haileyciccone5104 Рік тому +3

    common pixie poo w

  • @tylerlarsen7135
    @tylerlarsen7135 Рік тому

    I’m just here for the butterflies

  • @shrtbred787
    @shrtbred787 Рік тому

    You are right, Charles the 5th was not at tha battle. Something else to noet is that the swiss comander the players used died 47 years before this battle.

  • @JohnnyNakatomi
    @JohnnyNakatomi Рік тому +1

    I would call it High Medieval.

  • @ajaxtelamonian5134
    @ajaxtelamonian5134 11 місяців тому

    Still dont know about those big goofy shields at this time period.

  • @arabian9372
    @arabian9372 Рік тому

    what a video, nice

  • @unidentified6663
    @unidentified6663 Рік тому +1

    We need life of a soldier back 😭

  • @cruzaider5339
    @cruzaider5339 Рік тому

    *"I'm just kidding"*
    He's not

  • @omnisityyt81
    @omnisityyt81 Рік тому

    I miss 1212ad pls post more

  • @Sk0lzky
    @Sk0lzky Рік тому +5

    4:30 these are indeed darts, very underrepresented in videogames and pop history despite being all over the place in sources, particularly pictorial. They're definitely not oversized here, mount and blade just got them wrong lmao

  • @CasperTheRamKnight
    @CasperTheRamKnight Рік тому

    this game looks cool af lol

  • @juvsagias3337
    @juvsagias3337 Рік тому

    How did the graphics became like this?

  • @thechronicler1453
    @thechronicler1453 Рік тому

    Guardia ducale means guard of the duke

  • @peppp3598
    @peppp3598 Рік тому

    So sweaty

  • @dericcheshire4703
    @dericcheshire4703 Рік тому

    Love later period tbh

  • @lindseyboyd7414
    @lindseyboyd7414 Рік тому

    hi my game wont open on steam. is giving me a fatal error message.... redownloaded the game but still not working. can anyone tell me how to fix? love this game and really wanna play again.

  • @acatwithwiskers9273
    @acatwithwiskers9273 Рік тому

    17:52 every league player ever just needs a couple slurs and swears.

  • @lukatrailovic9002
    @lukatrailovic9002 Рік тому

    8000 Swiss mercs and 4000 Italian mercs in the French army

  • @diegocastaneda1016
    @diegocastaneda1016 Рік тому

    6:55 It was Gonzalo Fernández de Córdoba, el Gran Capitán, "the great captain"

    • @goosie0094
      @goosie0094 Рік тому +2

      Ya pero ya sabes que fuera de España no tienen ni idea por eso ni nombran al imperio español😒

  • @JustanerOwO2001
    @JustanerOwO2001 Рік тому

    4:25 Focus 10/10 :D

  • @joundii3100
    @joundii3100 Рік тому +1

    Fun fact : It's not a coincidence that "Francis" sounds like France. In fact, his name in French is "François" which is the old way of saying French (Français in modern French).

  • @spycyfryz5224
    @spycyfryz5224 Рік тому +1

    iT wAs GeRmAn (btw your jokes cheesy LAMO)

  • @ivailochatov6673
    @ivailochatov6673 Рік тому

    Sitting here and waiting for the new biggus video