@@Luke357base steam deck with 64GB ( Austin also stated it in the video) is $349 which is the same as what the Ayano is charging. Only advantage they have at their price point ( or arguably main) is storage space lol. Going by the steam app ( and gamestop website) if you are able to get your hands on one for a refurbished 512GB it is $359.99. Currently the steam app is showing out of stock, so it would be a game of Russian roulette with GameStop if you were to go the refurbished route lol.
Interesting product, although by this time next week they will already have several newer versions making this version out of date.The almost weekly rate at which Aya Neo cranks out new devices makes me wonder about long term support. This already looks to be a bit of a waste of money, I would just save up a bit more money and get a Steam Deck because the ecosystem and the product have synergy and I just don’t think Non SD can compete, even when some devices have way more capability.
the only thing I can think this is good (games aside) is to have a *portable* windows machine without buying a laptop. I mean, the cheapest laptop is like 200€, but we are talking about a 4GB ram ddr3, intel celeron, 180GB ssd without a GPU. Going up to to 350€ you can get a *refurbished* HP laptop with AMD A6, 16GB ram, 120Gb SSD or a new generic brand with intel n5100, 12GB ram, 256SSD, windows 11 and integrated graphic card "Intel UHD Graphics". This thing will burn down the laptops in the same price bracket. Only downside is you will need to bring around another trinket in the form of a mini keyboard or use the virtual keyboard. If you need it, at that.
@@ignoto82drat that point just get a freaking laptop lmfao. You can even buy them used for cheap. Dont need to shell out for a half ased product thats meant for "gaming"
Pretty sure he lost all his space because the cloning process also clones the size of the source drive onto the target. If you take a 256gb SSD and clone the files onto a 500gb SSD you will only have 256gb useable on the 500gb and a partition will be created but inactive with the remaining space, you're missing. I had to use NIUBI Editor to move the 2 storage partitions together then extend my active partition to allocate the unused space.
The hardware specs for the price of the Ayaneo Next Lite are excellent. Evans's poor review stems from being too incompetent to properly install SteamOS. I'll take 512GB for the same price as Steams 64GB version.
i absolutely love my Legion GO. I purchased it because I was going on a trip to Oklahoma and was going to be spending some time in an airport and plane and wanted something to do. The battery life isn't the best ever but being able to hook it to a dock and do some actual work with a keyboard and mouse was amazing. I'm glad I spent the money on it
I really think it's a swing and a miss to not have SteamOS/HoloISO pre-installed. Most average users aren't going to go through the hassle you went through to get that running, meaning they're stuck with a subpar experience under Windows, or have to manually expand the filesystem after the HoloISO install. Either way, seems like a nice bit of kit!
I think it's fine, given Ayaneo really doesn't support their devices like Valve does with their Steam Decks. I wouldn't want Ayaneo to give people a bad first impression of Steam OS just because Ayaneo would likely half-a$$ it. And that would hurt Valve in a way, too, because of those poor first impressions. I also wonder how many meetings Microsoft made with Ayaneo, just like in the 1990s...
@cameronbosch1213 depends on how they market themselves / or if resellers market it. I would think most people going into the market for a "steam deck" would understand that the Holo OS isn't the official steam deck OS. It kinda defeats the purpose of it being the budget option when you have to pay for a windows license. If it wasn't for windows they could have kept their cost at $300. Since they went with Windows it added a cost of $50. Like Austin stated at that point just spend a few more bucks to get a premium option. They are advertising themselves as the budget option, but are at the very edge of going into premium pricing, especially if you consider used / refurbished lol.
As soon as I heard "Ryzen 5 4500U", I knew it was DOA. The Deck is $400 for the 256GB model - its iGPU is running circles around 4500U's iGPU. The only thing the 4500U is good for is with CPU performance - but they had only one job, and that was to make a game console, not a laptop (I wish they had done it).
I think they just jumped the gun on this one. BUT, they should definitely tell people the true progress on SteamOS/Holo. Windows worked pretty well for the specs.
They need to add tweaker settings so that people can tinker with the voltage etc on a bios level. Some crazy nutjob is gonna be able to undervolt the crap out of it and still have it run perfectly fine at max performance....
The price is so close to the ROG ally and steam deck, I feel like there is 0 reason to get this device over the others. The steam deck has way better controls and OS support, while the Ally has a better screen and performance.
I think Steam Deck is better on a hardware and software level, but this thing looks way more portable and comfortable which was my main problem with Steam Deck. Had to sell it after 2 months because I barely used it outside of my house because of how big it was. This looks like something you can actually put in your bag on a daily basis, even tho not as good as something like Switch Lite
@@TakisEnjoyer I think I am getting old. I am astounded every time I see a full gaming computer that I can hold in my hands like the Steam Deck even if it’s bulky. In high school we had to carry our mini atx gaming box pc with all accessories to our friends house if we wanted to play something as simple as StarCraft. Now I can just pull my Steam Deck out of its case and play games I only dreamed of playing on the road.
@@scorpionscythe maybe it's just because I was in this hobby for a while, Deck is impressive, but back then it was like "Do I really need all this performance if because of the size I only gonna use it at home where I already have a better PC?", so I would always take some other handheld with me. And nowadays we have handhelds that are more powerful yet smaller and lighter. I still think that on a software level Deck is the only handheld that can fight with something like Switch or other actual consoles, but I would really like to see them working on some Slim version in a few years alongside Deck 2 that maybe not as powerful, but at least actually portable.
@@TakisEnjoyermay just be a smaller hands/smaller person issue. I can't stand smaller devices they feel like little cheap toys in my hand, switch lite especially is probably the worst gaming device I could ever imagine using. The Deck has heft in all the right ways, and its size, despite this being a common complaint, has never made it troublesome to pack or carry for me. Its just made for larger people, adults mainly, probably specifically adult men.
Naw it does take up a lot of space I have a bag that I use to carry my 17 inch laptop and it takes up a good bit of space much more than let's say a switch.
@@GoldenNada you're buggin, the Steamdeck can fit in a small sling bag with enough space for a camera, powerbank, ipad mini and any of the edc pocket trash you carry
The thing about AYA and Holo ISO is that: 1) AYA does not own Holo ISO, so there's very little they can do on their end to fix it. 2) Holo ISO is 1000% for enthusiasts. If you're not an enthusiast DO NOT USE HOLO ISO! There was a LOT more Austin and company needed to do to get the Next Lite to work properly with Holo ISO. This is not me dunking on Austin, but more dunking on AYA for saying that Holo ISO works with the Next Lite. That's pretty scummy of AYA to say that. Here's my theory: AYA couldn't get permission to use the official SteamOS directly from Valve nor could they get permission from the makers of Holo ISO. But they still really wanted to say they had SteamOS on the Next Lite... So they just said you could install Holo ISO onto the Next Lite, implying support without actually offering any.
Aya neo is pretty legit. They were the first ones to release a ryzen powered handheld gaming PC. Back then we only had gpd with their Intel based handhelds.
@@zafewaterbois5872 They're not going to be as affordable as the steam deck because steam can afford to sell their handhelds at a loss. But they're definitely high quality. I own two of them.
@@GodSonBlessedthat doesn't mean their legit, they literally drop support and give no care for their older device as soon as it turns a year old+ all they do is just mass produce Handhelds that dies out after a few months of usage that no one asked for.
And this is exactly why the steam deck is the only one of these devices that ever caught my attention. I can barely deal with windows on my computer and now on a handheld the experience is just a mess.
@@joepower777 i think hes just talking about the user experience in general, for most people it often feels like windows is actively fighting against you at all times
@@joepower777 I have a gaming PC and also a laptop and the experience on Windows just frustrates me, unfortunately Linux on PC isn't as popular or as supported so we kinda have to deal with it.
Yes. Especially because they crowdfund so regularly they seem to have a really short attention span. I hope the Deck can have a really long span of support
I feel like Steam is on to something with it's SteamOS. If they work on it to make it functional with PC's and other handhelds, more people will jump on this Linux version.
Running Linux Mint on both my older HTPC-converted-from-a-server and on my potato laptop. Steam with Proton, Heroic Launcher and Lutris all working great on it, can't complain. Still use Windows 11 for my main PC for a few reasons, but if those reasons didn't exist I'd probably install Linux on that as well... since the Steam Deck came out, Linux gaming has made huge strides, so I guess we have Valve (in part) to thank for that.
might as well just buy one, steam don't typically discount their hardware products unless they're being discontinued, which the steam deck is nowhere close to.
Main problem of ALL this "Steam Deck killers" is on Windows and no optimisation of Windows for this devises Steam Deck is more optimised by software (SteamOS + Proton and another software from Valve) to components inside the Deck, thats why Deck is standing on the top on this price segment Ayaneo have better sollutions, BUT on more bigger prise
Very disappointing, I would have liked to see a return to 2016 where we had low-budget handhelds like this. But ditching SteamOS and incrrasing the price probably for the Windows license was a horrible decision
I'll be honest, whatever you switched to to film with a @ 9:43 the picture/color/contrast is much better than the main camera. Audio not so much but the image personally looks better and more true
FYI, the Next Lite will sell for $300. It's - $300 - 4500u - 128gb - March/April $350 - 4500u - 512gb - March/April $400 - 4800u - 512gb - April I've been having great fun with mine on windows/JELOS.
I saw another review that went into more detail about how Aya Neo went about this process. Aside from their instructions recommending Ventoy, there's another issue. For some ungodly reason, they didn't supply a normal ISO image. They supplied a broken Clonezilla image. That would explain why Austin went for the weird Clonezilla route over Belena Etcher or Rufus.
Yeah, a pre-owned Steam Deck is better in every way. I was a pre-order for the original Steam Deck and my uncle came round, saw how awesome it was, and immediately bought himself one on eBay and has been emulating all of the old games he used to play as a kid on super old hardware. Didn't need to spend full price on it. It works perfectly and he loves it!
I'm not sure how valid Austin's problems were I'm not sure the Holoiso install was completed correctly. It's definitely not user friendly but I'm not sure what was done was correct.
Normally with ventoy, you just copy the OS iso to the flashdrive, boot from flash and you can choose the iso to boot from, you can put as much iso's on it as you like (as long you have drivespace offcourse), the fact that ventoy didn't show any iso means he didn't copy the iso, copied it wrong or put the zip on it instead off the iso.
@@elBartoDR exactly what I was thinking, It kinda looked like he was trying to clone the live installer after not understanding ventoy and if that's what he did then custom stuff done by ayeaneo won't be applied
It also depends on the size of the SD card and how you set it up. For example I was having an issue with my ventoy drive in a 256gb with secure boot and uefi. Which can work but if I recall you have to format a partition where you store you ISO's to a max of 64gb or 100gb. Otherwise it will hang and not find anything for some reason. So if they didn't turn off secure boot or uefi and the SD card was too large then that could be a reason why it initially failed among other possible reasons.
Cyberpunk is a game that shows decent sometimes great fps for a handheld when you benchmark. But the second you jump in game your averaging high 20 to mid 30 fps, while some areas are 45-60.
Rich youtuber's have saved life and money for so many out there, they can buy or get all the review units And give a unbiased review So that we could invest the money in the right place I currently own Odin 2 and steam deck OLED and I'm wayyyy tooo happy with it Thank u to all the tech youtuber's
LOL, you think you had a bad experience? You got one that works. Try getting one with a problem and dealing with Ayaneo's shit-tier customer support. The r/ayaneo subreddit is the most negative brand subreddit I've ever seen...for a reason.
There are many reasons why I waited patiently for a big company to come out with a handheld. There are many more reasons why I will wait patiently for a true competitor to the steam deck. You're not just buying a device, you're buying an experience. Nothing beats Valve in this regard. Still.
So I finally decided to install EmuDeck/Emulation Station on my Steam Deck. I was against it thinking I can play many Gen 6 games on my Galaxy Z Flip3. Glad I changed my mind because GameCube and Wii games play flawlessly on it. I didn’t need to tinker with the settings for F-Zero GX and zero audio stutter or crash. While Wii emulation is perfect on the Steam Deck thanks to the touchpads acting like a mousepad for a pointer. There is a bit of a learning curve. Installing EmuDeck/Emulation Station isn’t easy peasy like what I did on Android. I had to get used to using the Steam Deck in desktop mode and typing from it. And Linux doesn’t play nice with Windows or Mac. I couldn’t transfer my ROMs onto it that I ended up manually downloading every ROM instead and then unzipping it which takes up a lot more time. I tried taking out my microSD and putting it into an SD converter and my MacBook Air still couldn’t read the files from it. Let’s just say, emulation on Steam Deck still has quirks you will need to be prepared for. I decided that I only want to emulate 7 platforms. I can always play my Gen 3 & 4, PS1, PSP, and a few PS2 ports on my Vita. Here are the seven - Jaguar Saturn Arcade (MAME) PlayStation 2 Xbox GameCube Wii I don’t need Dreamcast, PSP, or PS3. I can’t find a game I want to play on the Wii U as I already own a Switch Lite. I came to realize that the original Wii is pretty awesome and I underrated it all this time. I have as many games I want to play on it as the GameCube. And Wii is a souped up GameCube as it did play those GC games. It’s weird playing Super Mario World on a Steam Deck with a 7”/720p display and looking blown up like a digital zoom where you can see the jaggies from every sprite. I’ll leave the Super NES games and most games prior to Gen 6 on smaller devices with smaller screens and lower resolution. I can always play Dreamcast on one of my smartphones. Reason being is I prefer Redream over Flycast but I want Redream on Emulation Station but it cannot open from there. Below are all my ROMs for each system while I decided to delete all the Super NES, PS1, Dreamcast, and PSP games since they’re better played mostly on smaller Sony handhelds. *Jaguar* (3) Atari Karts NBA Jam Tournament Edition Rayman *GameCube* (10) F-Zero GX Mario Kart: Double Dash!! NBA Street Vol. 2 Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door Sonic Riders Star Fox Adventures Super Mario Sunshine The Legend of Zelda: The Wind Waker The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess Wario World *Wii* (10) Back to the Future: The Game Donkey Kong Country Returns Kirby’s Adventure Wii Klonoa Mario Kart Wii New Super Mario Bros. Wii Sonic & SEGA All-Stars Racing Sonic Colours Super Mario Galaxy Super Mario Galaxy 2 Kirby’s Adventure Wii is also known as Kirby’s Return to Dreamland but I decided to spell the former to match the box art like spelling Sonic Colours with a “u” in colors since the box art is the PAL one. Mario Kart Wii is growing on me and it plays much better on the Deck than my Flip3, but I still prefer Double Dash more. I tried playing Skyward Sword but it plays too awkwardly for the Wii version. Probably why I stuck with the GCN version of Twilight Princess even though I originally beat the Wii one. I can always get the Wii U/Switch version of Skyward Sword. I’m not a diehard Zelda fan, so I don’t care if I never ever play Skyward Sword or Tears of the Kingdom in my life. Breath of the Wild put me to sleep. While I don’t really care about Zelda games and always find their stories and characters way too bland, I will say Nintendo remains the GOAT at making games. Think about the Wii. We keep talking about GameCube emulation but the Wii has a very underrated library. Mario Galaxy 1 and 2 are superior to Mario Sunshine. And GameCube never had a great 2D platformer that Donkey Kong Country Returns and New SMB Wii are. The only reason why I prefer the GameCube even though the Wii is backwards compatible to it, is because GameCube has F-Zero GX, Mario Kart: Double Dash!!, and my favorite game of Gen 6 in NBA Street Vol. 2. All three of those games are also found on my Z Flip3 and all would be in my top 10 favs among all Gen 6 games. But the Wii is awesome. It’s better to emulate Wii on a Steam Deck than ROG Ally thanks to the touchpads. I love and hate Nintendo, but I have to admit that they have the most replayable libraries. I may need to reevaluate my console rankings and may put GameCube and Wii over Dreamcast and PS2. I don’t really have the urge to play PS2 games. I always found their early games looking muddy. Wasn’t bright and beautiful as DC and GC. And Sega is very arcade-y. Many DC games have very shallow gameplay which includes Sonic games. Nintendo is always the one I go back to except for their Nintendo 64. I think that’s my least favorite home console from them. I’ll play NFL Blitz and that’s it. Don’t care for Mario Kart 64. Beaten Super Mario 64 twice but never really cared for it. Technology was limited circa mid 90s and thought some levels didn’t look finished. Sunshine was prettier but had awkward F.L.U.D gameplay. Galaxy 1 and 2 is when Nintendo got 3D Mario right. I don’t emulate a lot of handheld games except Ridge Racer 2004 for PSP. You can just play them on the actual handheld it was made for. I always found handheld games as the Walmart version of a port. Remember Mortal Kombat on the Game Boy and Game Gear? Yuck. I want the bigger budgets coming from home consoles. I have no interest emulating Switch games on a Steam Deck when I have a Switch Lite to play those games. It’s weird how PlayStation is my favorite gaming brand but I don’t have the urge to replay many of their games. I love AC4: Black Flag but I will admit this style of modern gaming from Gen 7 can feel redundant and even complicated with all the different menu screens I have to look at. Nintendo uses cartoony graphics which gives them a timeless look while adding cheerful, charming, or soothing music. They act like Apple as a corporation but they still want to be like Disney by appealing to everyone of all ages. I’m 43 and my favorite genres are racing and 2D platformers and Nintendo caters to me with Mario Kart and 2D Super Mario. 1. Vita 2. Deck 3. Switch 4. PSP 5. PS1 6. GameCube 7. Wii 8. Dreamcast 9. PS2 10. Super NES 11. Genesis Time to work on my arcade, Saturn, PS2, and Xbox libraries where I need a BIOS and a couple other things for the Xbox. *Arcade* Mortal Kombat Mortal Kombat II NBA Jam Street Fighter II Champion Edition Super Street Fighter II Tekken 3 Tekken Tag Tournament ^ I have over 50+ MAME ROMs everything from The Simpsons, X-Men, TMNT to every Fatal Fury, The King of the Fighters, Samurai Shodown, and Metal Slug games. But I decided to keep it minimum. Games I want to replay. I didn’t really play those Sega Model 2/3/NAOMI arcade games except the first Daytona USA. *Saturn* Astal Christmas Nights Keio Flying Squadron 2 Nights into Dreams Super Tempo Tryrush Deppy *PlayStation* *2* Final Fantasy X God of War God of War II Gran Turismo 3 Gran Turismo 4 Metal Gear Solid 2: Sons of Liberty Metal Gear Solid 3: Snake Eater Tekken 4 Tekken 5 Tekken Tag Tournament *Xbox* Conker: Live & Reloaded Dead or Alive 3 Jet Set Radio Future Shenmue II
I think the Deck is vastly superior. But, is this a fair way to rule out the Ayaneo? Didn’t it provide fair-ish frames running Windows? Are Ayaneo actually recommending the OS shift? If so, it’s a bit like reviewing a Lenovo laptop by installing HackOS.
Ayaneo releases a new device like every other week. They have saturated the market space and over price their devices to make them even worth looking at.
At this rate if they continue to flood the market including crap like this, they'll end up killing the market too. The good machines will get drowned out, meaning all people see are e-waste like this.
some of the ssd size issues youbhad were prolly the fact there isnstill a windows partition there and you only had 100gb free so the ssd wasnt fully formatted
Need an official update from Ayaneo. I’m pretty sure something went really really wrong with the OS install. This has some potential, too bad about HoloISO not working as expected.
I know the struggles of installing Steam OS on a Chinese laptop ( I'd post of link but don't want to be that guy - video on the channel ) I got holo ISO installed but it locked up on startup screen a few times and when I tried to upgrade it, it completely broken the OS so I went with Chimera OS. Chimera OS works fairly well but it came with its own issues I had to iron out with tons of online research. The process is somewhat stressful and was never as simple as it seemed for ETA Prime. Steam needs to release a working version of the OS for different hardware!
This should be pinned. Legitimately most of Austin's problems are just him not understanding or not being mentally capable of doing said thing. Every video he makes some fuck up that is really simple or he gets something really wrong that's also common knowledge. Still though he's entertaining
It's clearly not a recommended purchase. Since you already have it, though, it's worth checking to see if ChimeraOS works better on the hardware than the HoloISO image they provide. It would be funny if it did. There are alternate ways to get to all the settings. However, what's the point of the HoloISO image if it's not actually customized for the device.
There is a reason none of the others like Lenovo/MSI/Asus bother trying to compete on price with the stream deck. Steam subsidizes it's stuff by having it's own store. That's why all the other handhelds go big on hardware because that way they can do something steam deck can't even if they cost more. Trying to match steam or beat it on price just means you get a shittier device with worse hardware.
It's almost as if they didn't realise that Home + A didn't exist and wasn't a button combo that opens the quick access panel... There are also better SteamOS-lile images out there that would work much much better, such as ChimeraOS or Bazzite.
If I am not mistaken some people on UA-cam looked into Tiny 11 and found malware on it. I also think they discovered that a lot of security features needed by windows were turned off as well. So I would avoid using Tiny 11. In reality it's just a custom ISO of windows that you can create yourself. So if you really want to remove a lot of bloatware while still being secure it's probably best to look into how you can create your own windows ISO.
I would never get the Steam Deck BECAUSE it's not a Windows handheld. It's nice having complete OS freedom to download both games you already own or any game that may not be in the Steam Library. Not sure if he and everyone is saying that Steam OS/HoloISO is better because of the lower-end Hardware would make games run better? It's true full Windows isn't designed to be used with Gaming Controls, but you buy these devices for Gaming 90%-100% of the time. Its not too difficult to pair it with a small mouse and keyboard for games that are better played with them, like Counter-Strike. I really liked this when I saw its price versus all the other brand names and Chinese alternatives. However I would only get the model with the AMD Ryzen 7 4800U processor for best performance! Let's hope I find one dirt cheap at some point.
I have the 512gb LCD Steam Deck. I bought it last summer when it was on sale. Ironically, this was literally a few months before the OLED was released. If only I had known this, I would have just bought the OLED. Ah well...
Austin, the Windows partition is probably still there. You most likely split the drives, installed Steam OS onto the second drive, and created a new partition.
This is a prime example of why people prefer the steam deck and other consoles over PC/ PC handhelds. It just works no need to fix software or mess with settings
I didnt wana limit my kids to steam os/stean deck, so i went against your advise; I definitely bought the Ayaneo next lite. Lol. My kids also play games not available on steam as easily, like fall guys, fortnite, etc. It'll be running playnite. Wife has a steam deck that doesn't connect well to wifi, constantly disconnecting. There's a market for the Ayaneo next lite. The upper echelon of gaming youtubers isnt exactly who they had in mind. Ironic since thats mostly who does the reviews and impressions videos lol. 😊
The $300 price point just sucks for these devices because $100-$150 extra can get you a significantly better experience. Even $50 for the 64GB eMMC Deck (while it's still available) wouldn't be a bad idea if you get an SD card with it, and you can upgrade to a larger NVMe SSD later.
Valve really needs to release an universal steamdeck offical ISO so other manufacturers can create their own steamdecks to increase gaming on linux. That 50 dollar pricebump was probably just the windows licence nobody asked for.
I love to watch non-Arch users struggle to set up Arch on standard x86 hardware and yes, SteamOS3 is based on Arch - Holo only is a toolbox to get it to work until valve finally reaslse some official stuff to me it's austin here at fault just not get his head around how to install Arch ...
I feel like that device is such a waste. A smaller, slightly less powerful and cheaper Steam Deck? That's great, the Steam Deck have been the only budget option for 2 years now (and I don't count the Anbernic Win600 and Loki Zero, they're WAY less powerful, the Win600 was the same price as the Deck for the longest time and the Loki Zero is barely a thing) and even at $350, it's still a decent option if you don't want to buy the 64GB Steam Deck and upgrade the SSD yourself, but the problem is and always was Windows. It's not adapted for such small device, it takes way too many ressources and it's such a mess to configure. HoloISO Stable hasn't been updated in months and Ayn apparently did nothing to make it work correctly on their console, they should've went with something like Bazzite, which tries to give a SteamOS-like experience while still being a "real" Linux distribution, and install it by default.
So SteamOS is reading the input as just an Xbox controller. You can bring up the Steam Settings with the "Home" button + A. Might give an option to adjust TDP and all that. But the fact that it took them a couple of weeks to make the HOLOISO image available is... not good. Ayaneo should probably just stick with emulation.
I got the legon go and rog looked cheap as he'll and this brand popped up when I was researching what to get I'm like yeah no they all look like cheap McDonald's toys definitely would recommend the legon go I love it
This is just a repackaged version of the original Aya Neo, which is five years old now. It was very good for the time, but has been far surpassed since then.
This is the guy that says the Analogue Pocket is a brilliant console, while costing almost 3x the price of other console like the Miyoo mini plus while having almost the same performance
The process of installing Steam OS looked like Austing was trying to jailbreak an iPhone. And the fact that you lose functions of some of the buttons is a huge oversight. This thing is going to flop hard.
As soon as you mentioned HoloISO, I knew you were going to have a bad time. Nobody should use HoloISO, there are properly alternative SteamOS-like distros such as ChimeraOS, Bazzite Deck Edition, and Nobara Deck Edition. And not the hacky nonsense of HoloISO.
Why did you try to clone the ISO on the machine instead of ditching Ventoy (very nice tool when used correctly) for a direct image to stick copy using rufus, balenaEtcher or even dd? I get that this is meant from a consumer point of view but even then someone with actual computer knowledge could have tried to install it again instead of Austin.
Becuase he tried to follow relatively the tutorial provided, also probably would have sucked anyway, ayaneo's software and drivers are trash and have 0 support
There is a steamos shortcut to bring up the QAM menu(the right menu), I believe it's STEAM + A. That being said it shouldnt be necessary and they really should fix this.
if you're only interested in emulation, get the ayn odin 2. performance will run circles around this with the Snapdragon 8 Gen 2. if you want to play recent games get a ROG ally Z1 extreme or steam Deck. nothing else really is out yet that can match them
This one is good for those who are comfortable tinkering with windows, like me. Id rather have these than the steam os on steamdeck. you can do anything on windows nuff said.
The fact that this is the same price as the base steam deck 256gb makes this DOA. Just buy the steam deck, there is no reason to buy this.
Bruh only 256? That’s unusable bro
@@th9986You can upgrade the SSD or install a MicroSD card.
@@th9986 with 256gb you can literally download 'the witcher 3' 8 times over.
Base Steam Deck is $400.
@@Luke357base steam deck with 64GB ( Austin also stated it in the video) is $349 which is the same as what the Ayano is charging. Only advantage they have at their price point ( or arguably main) is storage space lol.
Going by the steam app ( and gamestop website) if you are able to get your hands on one for a refurbished 512GB it is $359.99. Currently the steam app is showing out of stock, so it would be a game of Russian roulette with GameStop if you were to go the refurbished route lol.
Interesting product, although by this time next week they will already have several newer versions making this version out of date.The almost weekly rate at which Aya Neo cranks out new devices makes me wonder about long term support. This already looks to be a bit of a waste of money, I would just save up a bit more money and get a Steam Deck because the ecosystem and the product have synergy and I just don’t think Non SD can compete, even when some devices have way more capability.
the only thing I can think this is good (games aside) is to have a *portable* windows machine without buying a laptop.
I mean, the cheapest laptop is like 200€, but we are talking about a 4GB ram ddr3, intel celeron, 180GB ssd without a GPU. Going up to to 350€ you can get a *refurbished* HP laptop with AMD A6, 16GB ram, 120Gb SSD or a new generic brand with intel n5100, 12GB ram, 256SSD, windows 11 and integrated graphic card "Intel UHD Graphics".
This thing will burn down the laptops in the same price bracket. Only downside is you will need to bring around another trinket in the form of a mini keyboard or use the virtual keyboard. If you need it, at that.
@@ignoto82drat that point just get a freaking laptop lmfao. You can even buy them used for cheap. Dont need to shell out for a half ased product thats meant for "gaming"
@@ignoto82dr Also a portable monitor if you don't want neck injury.
At which point you aren't saving any money.
Pretty sure he lost all his space because the cloning process also clones the size of the source drive onto the target. If you take a 256gb SSD and clone the files onto a 500gb SSD you will only have 256gb useable on the 500gb and a partition will be created but inactive with the remaining space, you're missing. I had to use NIUBI Editor to move the 2 storage partitions together then extend my active partition to allocate the unused space.
You could also use GParted/KDE partition manager.
Came here to say this.
The hardware specs for the price of the Ayaneo Next Lite are excellent. Evans's poor review stems from being too incompetent to properly install SteamOS. I'll take 512GB for the same price as Steams 64GB version.
i absolutely love my Legion GO. I purchased it because I was going on a trip to Oklahoma and was going to be spending some time in an airport and plane and wanted something to do. The battery life isn't the best ever but being able to hook it to a dock and do some actual work with a keyboard and mouse was amazing. I'm glad I spent the money on it
I really think it's a swing and a miss to not have SteamOS/HoloISO pre-installed. Most average users aren't going to go through the hassle you went through to get that running, meaning they're stuck with a subpar experience under Windows, or have to manually expand the filesystem after the HoloISO install. Either way, seems like a nice bit of kit!
I think it's fine, given Ayaneo really doesn't support their devices like Valve does with their Steam Decks. I wouldn't want Ayaneo to give people a bad first impression of Steam OS just because Ayaneo would likely half-a$$ it. And that would hurt Valve in a way, too, because of those poor first impressions.
I also wonder how many meetings Microsoft made with Ayaneo, just like in the 1990s...
Valve needs to release official SteamOS for manufactures to start installing in their handhelds
@@QOBRAI want SteamOS for my gaming PC. I'm sick of windows.
@@MuffHam you can just use holo ISO or Chimera OS!
@cameronbosch1213 depends on how they market themselves / or if resellers market it. I would think most people going into the market for a "steam deck" would understand that the Holo OS isn't the official steam deck OS. It kinda defeats the purpose of it being the budget option when you have to pay for a windows license. If it wasn't for windows they could have kept their cost at $300. Since they went with Windows it added a cost of $50. Like Austin stated at that point just spend a few more bucks to get a premium option. They are advertising themselves as the budget option, but are at the very edge of going into premium pricing, especially if you consider used / refurbished lol.
Austin should know cheapest Steam Deck is 256GB since OLED one came out.
They are still selling the even older original one, for 350
The 64GB continues to be sold at $350 while supplies last, they just won't be making more.
Did they increase the price?
@@pulakprakritinope, the 256 gig version is 400 bucks now.
@@pulakprakritiNo, they kept the price the same as the 64gb old LCD version while adding some upgrades
You can tap the battery icon to bring up quick setting menu.
As soon as I heard "Ryzen 5 4500U", I knew it was DOA. The Deck is $400 for the 256GB model - its iGPU is running circles around 4500U's iGPU. The only thing the 4500U is good for is with CPU performance - but they had only one job, and that was to make a game console, not a laptop (I wish they had done it).
I think they just jumped the gun on this one. BUT, they should definitely tell people the true progress on SteamOS/Holo. Windows worked pretty well for the specs.
Bringus said go ahead Austin, that's not jank enough for me
Meanwhile I STILL can't afford it
Sounds like a skill issue
Looking at your pfp I can tell why
@@Drive-X-GamingLMAO
This thing is like 90 percent of my paycheck
@@thechommytong420 Ok?
They need to add tweaker settings so that people can tinker with the voltage etc on a bios level.
Some crazy nutjob is gonna be able to undervolt the crap out of it and still have it run perfectly fine at max performance....
The price is so close to the ROG ally and steam deck, I feel like there is 0 reason to get this device over the others. The steam deck has way better controls and OS support, while the Ally has a better screen and performance.
are you talking about the oled or lcd steam deck
Ally also comes with a free sd card cooker tho
@@maskedrebel9670waiting for my sd card to finish frying.
I absolutely love my Steam Deck. Just save for the real thing. You will be much happier in the long run.
I think Steam Deck is better on a hardware and software level, but this thing looks way more portable and comfortable which was my main problem with Steam Deck. Had to sell it after 2 months because I barely used it outside of my house because of how big it was. This looks like something you can actually put in your bag on a daily basis, even tho not as good as something like Switch Lite
@@TakisEnjoyer I think I am getting old. I am astounded every time I see a full gaming computer that I can hold in my hands like the Steam Deck even if it’s bulky. In high school we had to carry our mini atx gaming box pc with all accessories to our friends house if we wanted to play something as simple as StarCraft. Now I can just pull my Steam Deck out of its case and play games I only dreamed of playing on the road.
@@scorpionscythe maybe it's just because I was in this hobby for a while, Deck is impressive, but back then it was like "Do I really need all this performance if because of the size I only gonna use it at home where I already have a better PC?", so I would always take some other handheld with me. And nowadays we have handhelds that are more powerful yet smaller and lighter. I still think that on a software level Deck is the only handheld that can fight with something like Switch or other actual consoles, but I would really like to see them working on some Slim version in a few years alongside Deck 2 that maybe not as powerful, but at least actually portable.
I game on the bus. The size is fine.
@@TakisEnjoyermay just be a smaller hands/smaller person issue. I can't stand smaller devices they feel like little cheap toys in my hand, switch lite especially is probably the worst gaming device I could ever imagine using. The Deck has heft in all the right ways, and its size, despite this being a common complaint, has never made it troublesome to pack or carry for me. Its just made for larger people, adults mainly, probably specifically adult men.
the steam deck takes up half a backpack? You rocking a tiny hello kitty backpack or something?
😂😂😂
Naw it does take up a lot of space I have a bag that I use to carry my 17 inch laptop and it takes up a good bit of space much more than let's say a switch.
Hyperbole
@@GoldenNada you're buggin, the Steamdeck can fit in a small sling bag with enough space for a camera, powerbank, ipad mini and any of the edc pocket trash you carry
@@cine-ish It easily fits in mine. People heavily exaggerate how much space it takes up
Oof, I hear Chimera OS has support for aya neo devices. It's basically the same thing as holo, I think holo even uses some stuff from chimera
The thing about AYA and Holo ISO is that:
1) AYA does not own Holo ISO, so there's very little they can do on their end to fix it.
2) Holo ISO is 1000% for enthusiasts. If you're not an enthusiast DO NOT USE HOLO ISO! There was a LOT more Austin and company needed to do to get the Next Lite to work properly with Holo ISO. This is not me dunking on Austin, but more dunking on AYA for saying that Holo ISO works with the Next Lite. That's pretty scummy of AYA to say that.
Here's my theory: AYA couldn't get permission to use the official SteamOS directly from Valve nor could they get permission from the makers of Holo ISO. But they still really wanted to say they had SteamOS on the Next Lite... So they just said you could install Holo ISO onto the Next Lite, implying support without actually offering any.
That box alone gives me huge "market stall knockoff console" vibes.
Aya neo is pretty legit. They were the first ones to release a ryzen powered handheld gaming PC. Back then we only had gpd with their Intel based handhelds.
@@GodSonBlessed but does that mean their devices are good? and affordable? eh
@@zafewaterbois5872 They're not going to be as affordable as the steam deck because steam can afford to sell their handhelds at a loss. But they're definitely high quality. I own two of them.
@@GodSonBlessedthat doesn't mean their legit, they literally drop support and give no care for their older device as soon as it turns a year old+ all they do is just mass produce Handhelds that dies out after a few months of usage that no one asked for.
Matt was right, keep it on windows and run Big picture mode.
Bro I thought it was a switch oled 😭
I mean it looks like one
Well the switch OLED is good though
@@sand_is_greaneyjust as powerful as my 9 year old android 🥰
@@sand_is_greaney(It's not)
And this is exactly why the steam deck is the only one of these devices that ever caught my attention. I can barely deal with windows on my computer and now on a handheld the experience is just a mess.
What sort of computer do you have if it can barely deal with windows!?
@@joepower777 i think hes just talking about the user experience in general, for most people it often feels like windows is actively fighting against you at all times
@@fiftythirdth really? I'd assume that the majority of people are light users that aren't consistently encountering issues.
Everyone encounters Windows issues, especially light users.@@joepower777
@@joepower777 I have a gaming PC and also a laptop and the experience on Windows just frustrates me, unfortunately Linux on PC isn't as popular or as supported so we kinda have to deal with it.
Doesn’t Ayaneo release soo many handhelds that they don’t support them all much after launch?
Yes. Especially because they crowdfund so regularly they seem to have a really short attention span. I hope the Deck can have a really long span of support
@@Collin_JI mean, that's EXACTLY why Valve is in no hurry to release a SD2 (OLED pretty much being a 1.5).
2:13 Thought that was a dead pixel on my expensive OLED monitor. Thanks for the scare Austin.
I am just curious. Where did you get that awesome Laguna Seca Shirt?
I feel like Steam is on to something with it's SteamOS.
If they work on it to make it functional with PC's and other handhelds, more people will jump on this Linux version.
I second mint, great for the average user
I third Mint, Steam + Heroic launcher for Gog and Epic. Bottles for the rest.
Running Linux Mint on both my older HTPC-converted-from-a-server and on my potato laptop. Steam with Proton, Heroic Launcher and Lutris all working great on it, can't complain. Still use Windows 11 for my main PC for a few reasons, but if those reasons didn't exist I'd probably install Linux on that as well... since the Steam Deck came out, Linux gaming has made huge strides, so I guess we have Valve (in part) to thank for that.
Meanwhile waiting for steam deck discount
might as well just buy one, steam don't typically discount their hardware products unless they're being discontinued, which the steam deck is nowhere close to.
The price difference to the 256 gig steam deck is only 50 bucks, so there's not really a reason to wait.
@@toxicturkeyyThere already were discounts for Deck on last Summer Sale and 20th Steam Anniversary
@@Calslock Those are the exceptions? Idk I feel like someone would say that 🤷🏾♂️
They had a summer sale last summer. I saved a lot of money buying the 512gb LCD model.
Main problem of ALL this "Steam Deck killers" is on Windows and no optimisation of Windows for this devises
Steam Deck is more optimised by software (SteamOS + Proton and another software from Valve) to components inside the Deck, thats why Deck is standing on the top on this price segment
Ayaneo have better sollutions, BUT on more bigger prise
Very disappointing, I would have liked to see a return to 2016 where we had low-budget handhelds like this. But ditching SteamOS and incrrasing the price probably for the Windows license was a horrible decision
Right now you can still get the 64GB LCD Deck for $350 while supplies last.
Lmao.
Why can't it have a proper boot device selection menu like almost every other x86 device? Being a handheld shouldn't make a difference.
It can't run grub?
Given it fired up ventoy it does have a normal boot selection menu. My guess is they didnt disable secure boot or the holo iso was corrupted.
When you video starts up, the first thing I see is your shirt representing Laguna Seca race track. Nice touch there lol 😆
I wanted this to work with the either the Holo ISO or have a better chip sooooo bad.... I LOVE the white and orange aesthetics!
Feel like they made this more for emulation ngl
Somewhere in a parallel universe there is a machine reviewing a $300 Austin that's not Mahone nor from Texas.
I'll be honest, whatever you switched to to film with a @ 9:43 the picture/color/contrast is much better than the main camera. Audio not so much but the image personally looks better and more true
FYI, the Next Lite will sell for $300.
It's -
$300 - 4500u - 128gb - March/April
$350 - 4500u - 512gb - March/April
$400 - 4800u - 512gb - April
I've been having great fun with mine on windows/JELOS.
I hope nobody buys that 128gb version, that is such a useless amount of storage
Next time, try to use balena etcher to create a boot stick from the holoISO image.
I saw another review that went into more detail about how Aya Neo went about this process. Aside from their instructions recommending Ventoy, there's another issue. For some ungodly reason, they didn't supply a normal ISO image. They supplied a broken Clonezilla image. That would explain why Austin went for the weird Clonezilla route over Belena Etcher or Rufus.
That's even better a $350 Windows 11 PC 💯
I think whoever can compete with Switch prices, and still make a good mini PC, wins.
Yeah, a pre-owned Steam Deck is better in every way. I was a pre-order for the original Steam Deck and my uncle came round, saw how awesome it was, and immediately bought himself one on eBay and has been emulating all of the old games he used to play as a kid on super old hardware. Didn't need to spend full price on it. It works perfectly and he loves it!
I'm not sure how valid Austin's problems were I'm not sure the Holoiso install was completed correctly. It's definitely not user friendly but I'm not sure what was done was correct.
Normally with ventoy, you just copy the OS iso to the flashdrive, boot from flash and you can choose the iso to boot from, you can put as much iso's on it as you like (as long you have drivespace offcourse), the fact that ventoy didn't show any iso means he didn't copy the iso, copied it wrong or put the zip on it instead off the iso.
@@elBartoDR exactly what I was thinking, It kinda looked like he was trying to clone the live installer after not understanding ventoy and if that's what he did then custom stuff done by ayeaneo won't be applied
It also depends on the size of the SD card and how you set it up. For example I was having an issue with my ventoy drive in a 256gb with secure boot and uefi. Which can work but if I recall you have to format a partition where you store you ISO's to a max of 64gb or 100gb. Otherwise it will hang and not find anything for some reason. So if they didn't turn off secure boot or uefi and the SD card was too large then that could be a reason why it initially failed among other possible reasons.
Austin needs to buy a pack of space raiders to find his brothers
Cyberpunk is a game that shows decent sometimes great fps for a handheld when you benchmark. But the second you jump in game your averaging high 20 to mid 30 fps, while some areas are 45-60.
Rich youtuber's have saved life and money for so many out there, they can buy or get all the review units
And give a unbiased review
So that we could invest the money in the right place
I currently own Odin 2 and steam deck OLED and I'm wayyyy tooo happy with it
Thank u to all the tech youtuber's
I believe the fan is blasting due to the fan settings in developer mode try to toggle them and see what happens
LOL, you think you had a bad experience? You got one that works. Try getting one with a problem and dealing with Ayaneo's shit-tier customer support.
The r/ayaneo subreddit is the most negative brand subreddit I've ever seen...for a reason.
There are many reasons why I waited patiently for a big company to come out with a handheld. There are many more reasons why I will wait patiently for a true competitor to the steam deck.
You're not just buying a device, you're buying an experience. Nothing beats Valve in this regard. Still.
So I finally decided to install EmuDeck/Emulation Station on my Steam Deck. I was against it thinking I can play many Gen 6 games on my Galaxy Z Flip3. Glad I changed my mind because GameCube and Wii games play flawlessly on it. I didn’t need to tinker with the settings for F-Zero GX and zero audio stutter or crash. While Wii emulation is perfect on the Steam Deck thanks to the touchpads acting like a mousepad for a pointer.
There is a bit of a learning curve. Installing EmuDeck/Emulation Station isn’t easy peasy like what I did on Android. I had to get used to using the Steam Deck in desktop mode and typing from it. And Linux doesn’t play nice with Windows or Mac. I couldn’t transfer my ROMs onto it that I ended up manually downloading every ROM instead and then unzipping it which takes up a lot more time.
I tried taking out my microSD and putting it into an SD converter and my MacBook Air still couldn’t read the files from it. Let’s just say, emulation on Steam Deck still has quirks you will need to be prepared for. I decided that I only want to emulate 7 platforms. I can always play my Gen 3 & 4, PS1, PSP, and a few PS2 ports on my Vita.
Here are the seven -
Jaguar
Saturn
Arcade (MAME)
PlayStation 2
Xbox
GameCube
Wii
I don’t need Dreamcast, PSP, or PS3. I can’t find a game I want to play on the Wii U as I already own a Switch Lite. I came to realize that the original Wii is pretty awesome and I underrated it all this time. I have as many games I want to play on it as the GameCube. And Wii is a souped up GameCube as it did play those GC games.
It’s weird playing Super Mario World on a Steam Deck with a 7”/720p display and looking blown up like a digital zoom where you can see the jaggies from every sprite. I’ll leave the Super NES games and most games prior to Gen 6 on smaller devices with smaller screens and lower resolution.
I can always play Dreamcast on one of my smartphones. Reason being is I prefer Redream over Flycast but I want Redream on Emulation Station but it cannot open from there. Below are all my ROMs for each system while I decided to delete all the Super NES, PS1, Dreamcast, and PSP games since they’re better played mostly on smaller Sony handhelds.
*Jaguar* (3)
Atari Karts
NBA Jam Tournament Edition
Rayman
*GameCube* (10)
F-Zero GX
Mario Kart: Double Dash!!
NBA Street Vol. 2
Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door
Sonic Riders
Star Fox Adventures
Super Mario Sunshine
The Legend of Zelda: The Wind Waker
The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess
Wario World
*Wii* (10)
Back to the Future: The Game
Donkey Kong Country Returns
Kirby’s Adventure Wii
Klonoa
Mario Kart Wii
New Super Mario Bros. Wii
Sonic & SEGA All-Stars Racing
Sonic Colours
Super Mario Galaxy
Super Mario Galaxy 2
Kirby’s Adventure Wii is also known as Kirby’s Return to Dreamland but I decided to spell the former to match the box art like spelling Sonic Colours with a “u” in colors since the box art is the PAL one. Mario Kart Wii is growing on me and it plays much better on the Deck than my Flip3, but I still prefer Double Dash more.
I tried playing Skyward Sword but it plays too awkwardly for the Wii version. Probably why I stuck with the GCN version of Twilight Princess even though I originally beat the Wii one. I can always get the Wii U/Switch version of Skyward Sword. I’m not a diehard Zelda fan, so I don’t care if I never ever play Skyward Sword or Tears of the Kingdom in my life. Breath of the Wild put me to sleep.
While I don’t really care about Zelda games and always find their stories and characters way too bland, I will say Nintendo remains the GOAT at making games. Think about the Wii. We keep talking about GameCube emulation but the Wii has a very underrated library. Mario Galaxy 1 and 2 are superior to Mario Sunshine. And GameCube never had a great 2D platformer that Donkey Kong Country Returns and New SMB Wii are.
The only reason why I prefer the GameCube even though the Wii is backwards compatible to it, is because GameCube has F-Zero GX, Mario Kart: Double Dash!!, and my favorite game of Gen 6 in NBA Street Vol. 2. All three of those games are also found on my Z Flip3 and all would be in my top 10 favs among all Gen 6 games. But the Wii is awesome. It’s better to emulate Wii on a Steam Deck than ROG Ally thanks to the touchpads.
I love and hate Nintendo, but I have to admit that they have the most replayable libraries. I may need to reevaluate my console rankings and may put GameCube and Wii over Dreamcast and PS2. I don’t really have the urge to play PS2 games. I always found their early games looking muddy. Wasn’t bright and beautiful as DC and GC. And Sega is very arcade-y. Many DC games have very shallow gameplay which includes Sonic games.
Nintendo is always the one I go back to except for their Nintendo 64. I think that’s my least favorite home console from them. I’ll play NFL Blitz and that’s it. Don’t care for Mario Kart 64. Beaten Super Mario 64 twice but never really cared for it. Technology was limited circa mid 90s and thought some levels didn’t look finished. Sunshine was prettier but had awkward F.L.U.D gameplay. Galaxy 1 and 2 is when Nintendo got 3D Mario right.
I don’t emulate a lot of handheld games except Ridge Racer 2004 for PSP. You can just play them on the actual handheld it was made for. I always found handheld games as the Walmart version of a port. Remember Mortal Kombat on the Game Boy and Game Gear? Yuck. I want the bigger budgets coming from home consoles. I have no interest emulating Switch games on a Steam Deck when I have a Switch Lite to play those games.
It’s weird how PlayStation is my favorite gaming brand but I don’t have the urge to replay many of their games. I love AC4: Black Flag but I will admit this style of modern gaming from Gen 7 can feel redundant and even complicated with all the different menu screens I have to look at.
Nintendo uses cartoony graphics which gives them a timeless look while adding cheerful, charming, or soothing music. They act like Apple as a corporation but they still want to be like Disney by appealing to everyone of all ages. I’m 43 and my favorite genres are racing and 2D platformers and Nintendo caters to me with Mario Kart and 2D Super Mario.
1. Vita
2. Deck
3. Switch
4. PSP
5. PS1
6. GameCube
7. Wii
8. Dreamcast
9. PS2
10. Super NES
11. Genesis
Time to work on my arcade, Saturn, PS2, and Xbox libraries where I need a BIOS and a couple other things for the Xbox.
*Arcade*
Mortal Kombat
Mortal Kombat II
NBA Jam
Street Fighter II Champion Edition
Super Street Fighter II
Tekken 3
Tekken Tag Tournament
^ I have over 50+ MAME ROMs everything from The Simpsons, X-Men, TMNT to every Fatal Fury, The King of the Fighters, Samurai Shodown, and Metal Slug games. But I decided to keep it minimum. Games I want to replay. I didn’t really play those Sega Model 2/3/NAOMI arcade games except the first Daytona USA.
*Saturn*
Astal
Christmas Nights
Keio Flying Squadron 2
Nights into Dreams
Super Tempo
Tryrush Deppy
*PlayStation* *2*
Final Fantasy X
God of War
God of War II
Gran Turismo 3
Gran Turismo 4
Metal Gear Solid 2: Sons of Liberty
Metal Gear Solid 3: Snake Eater
Tekken 4
Tekken 5
Tekken Tag Tournament
*Xbox*
Conker: Live & Reloaded
Dead or Alive 3
Jet Set Radio Future
Shenmue II
The pastel blue one is actually in stock RN
That's not a steam deck bruh
quotations exist bud
Did they say to use Clonezilla? Normally you wouldn't flash a full image for an OS on a PC.
For some reason, instead of supplying a standard ISO, Aya Neo supplied a broken Clonezilla image to install HoloISO...
I think the Deck is vastly superior. But, is this a fair way to rule out the Ayaneo? Didn’t it provide fair-ish frames running Windows? Are Ayaneo actually recommending the OS shift? If so, it’s a bit like reviewing a Lenovo laptop by installing HackOS.
So im guessing the age old remove rhe SSD from the portable and write the OS file directly to it doesnt work with this one.
it does not say that it’s better than the deck, this is literally a budget option
shut up austin
Ayaneo releases a new device like every other week. They have saturated the market space and over price their devices to make them even worth looking at.
At this rate if they continue to flood the market including crap like this, they'll end up killing the market too. The good machines will get drowned out, meaning all people see are e-waste like this.
some of the ssd size issues youbhad were prolly the fact there isnstill a windows partition there and you only had 100gb free so the ssd wasnt fully formatted
Need an official update from Ayaneo. I’m pretty sure something went really really wrong with the OS install. This has some potential, too bad about HoloISO not working as expected.
I know the struggles of installing Steam OS on a Chinese laptop ( I'd post of link but don't want to be that guy - video on the channel ) I got holo ISO installed but it locked up on startup screen a few times and when I tried to upgrade it, it completely broken the OS so I went with Chimera OS. Chimera OS works fairly well but it came with its own issues I had to iron out with tons of online research. The process is somewhat stressful and was never as simple as it seemed for ETA Prime. Steam needs to release a working version of the OS for different hardware!
Home button + A is how you open the os settings
This should be pinned.
Legitimately most of Austin's problems are just him not understanding or not being mentally capable of doing said thing.
Every video he makes some fuck up that is really simple or he gets something really wrong that's also common knowledge.
Still though he's entertaining
It’s supposed to be running SteamOs, so it should operate exactly the same 🤦🏻♂️
Why didn't you try Chimeraos? Seems like that could work better.
It's clearly not a recommended purchase. Since you already have it, though, it's worth checking to see if ChimeraOS works better on the hardware than the HoloISO image they provide. It would be funny if it did. There are alternate ways to get to all the settings. However, what's the point of the HoloISO image if it's not actually customized for the device.
retrogame corps on youtube is the best channel for handheld consoles. not this dude
It's not bad. A windows machine for less than 300 means you can play nvidia geforce now or gamepass cloud on it, but also dock it for light pc work
There is a reason none of the others like Lenovo/MSI/Asus bother trying to compete on price with the stream deck. Steam subsidizes it's stuff by having it's own store. That's why all the other handhelds go big on hardware because that way they can do something steam deck can't even if they cost more. Trying to match steam or beat it on price just means you get a shittier device with worse hardware.
It's almost as if they didn't realise that Home + A didn't exist and wasn't a button combo that opens the quick access panel...
There are also better SteamOS-lile images out there that would work much much better, such as ChimeraOS or Bazzite.
You should try installing tiny 11
If I am not mistaken some people on UA-cam looked into Tiny 11 and found malware on it. I also think they discovered that a lot of security features needed by windows were turned off as well. So I would avoid using Tiny 11. In reality it's just a custom ISO of windows that you can create yourself. So if you really want to remove a lot of bloatware while still being secure it's probably best to look into how you can create your own windows ISO.
Its always funny that like 90% of Austin's problems are just caused by himself
I would never get the Steam Deck BECAUSE it's not a Windows handheld. It's nice having complete OS freedom to download both games you already own or any game that may not be in the Steam Library. Not sure if he and everyone is saying that Steam OS/HoloISO is better because of the lower-end Hardware would make games run better? It's true full Windows isn't designed to be used with Gaming Controls, but you buy these devices for Gaming 90%-100% of the time. Its not too difficult to pair it with a small mouse and keyboard for games that are better played with them, like Counter-Strike. I really liked this when I saw its price versus all the other brand names and Chinese alternatives. However I would only get the model with the AMD Ryzen 7 4800U processor for best performance! Let's hope I find one dirt cheap at some point.
If they want this to be a real competitor to the steam deck it really needs to come with a properly setup install of HoloIOS.
check the thermals under linux like bringus did with the 2s, also check how hot the screen is
I have the 512gb LCD Steam Deck. I bought it last summer when it was on sale. Ironically, this was literally a few months before the OLED was released. If only I had known this, I would have just bought the OLED. Ah well...
Austin, the Windows partition is probably still there. You most likely split the drives, installed Steam OS onto the second drive, and created a new partition.
This is a prime example of why people prefer the steam deck and other consoles over PC/ PC handhelds. It just works no need to fix software or mess with settings
I didnt wana limit my kids to steam os/stean deck, so i went against your advise; I definitely bought the Ayaneo next lite. Lol. My kids also play games not available on steam as easily, like fall guys, fortnite, etc. It'll be running playnite. Wife has a steam deck that doesn't connect well to wifi, constantly disconnecting. There's a market for the Ayaneo next lite. The upper echelon of gaming youtubers isnt exactly who they had in mind. Ironic since thats mostly who does the reviews and impressions videos lol. 😊
The $300 price point just sucks for these devices because $100-$150 extra can get you a significantly better experience. Even $50 for the 64GB eMMC Deck (while it's still available) wouldn't be a bad idea if you get an SD card with it, and you can upgrade to a larger NVMe SSD later.
10:05 that bad piggies ahh laugh
Valve really needs to release an universal steamdeck offical ISO so other manufacturers can create their own steamdecks to increase gaming on linux. That 50 dollar pricebump was probably just the windows licence nobody asked for.
I love to watch non-Arch users struggle to set up Arch on standard x86 hardware
and yes, SteamOS3 is based on Arch - Holo only is a toolbox to get it to work until valve finally reaslse some official stuff
to me it's austin here at fault just not get his head around how to install Arch ...
I feel like that device is such a waste. A smaller, slightly less powerful and cheaper Steam Deck? That's great, the Steam Deck have been the only budget option for 2 years now (and I don't count the Anbernic Win600 and Loki Zero, they're WAY less powerful, the Win600 was the same price as the Deck for the longest time and the Loki Zero is barely a thing) and even at $350, it's still a decent option if you don't want to buy the 64GB Steam Deck and upgrade the SSD yourself, but the problem is and always was Windows. It's not adapted for such small device, it takes way too many ressources and it's such a mess to configure. HoloISO Stable hasn't been updated in months and Ayn apparently did nothing to make it work correctly on their console, they should've went with something like Bazzite, which tries to give a SteamOS-like experience while still being a "real" Linux distribution, and install it by default.
So SteamOS is reading the input as just an Xbox controller. You can bring up the Steam Settings with the "Home" button + A. Might give an option to adjust TDP and all that. But the fact that it took them a couple of weeks to make the HOLOISO image available is... not good. Ayaneo should probably just stick with emulation.
I got the legon go and rog looked cheap as he'll and this brand popped up when I was researching what to get I'm like yeah no they all look like cheap McDonald's toys definitely would recommend the legon go I love it
You should have inboxed a guy like eta prime for some pointers. I can't wait for his video on this.
the fact they now ship this windows out the box killed this device for me
This is just a repackaged version of the original Aya Neo, which is five years old now. It was very good for the time, but has been far surpassed since then.
This is the guy that says the Analogue Pocket is a brilliant console, while costing almost 3x the price of other console like the Miyoo mini plus while having almost the same performance
I just bought a used oled steam deck with custom carry case and a 500gb SD card in new condition for $400.
Aahh gotta love the used market
The process of installing Steam OS looked like Austing was trying to jailbreak an iPhone. And the fact that you lose functions of some of the buttons is a huge oversight. This thing is going to flop hard.
As soon as you mentioned HoloISO, I knew you were going to have a bad time. Nobody should use HoloISO, there are properly alternative SteamOS-like distros such as ChimeraOS, Bazzite Deck Edition, and Nobara Deck Edition. And not the hacky nonsense of HoloISO.
Why did you try to clone the ISO on the machine instead of ditching Ventoy (very nice tool when used correctly) for a direct image to stick copy using rufus, balenaEtcher or even dd? I get that this is meant from a consumer point of view but even then someone with actual computer knowledge could have tried to install it again instead of Austin.
Austin really isn't all that tech-savvy, which is kind of weird for a "tech" channel of this size.
This 100 percent this . I wonder how much better it would have worked if installed correctly
exactly. like wtf???
Becuase he tried to follow relatively the tutorial provided, also probably would have sucked anyway, ayaneo's software and drivers are trash and have 0 support
@@swe872 yeah but without completing the install one time correctly you won't know. Needs to be a fair chance to evaluate it
Luckily we don't have this kind of crap in the stores.
What about the ROG ALLY or the Logitech G Cloud
There is a steamos shortcut to bring up the QAM menu(the right menu), I believe it's STEAM + A. That being said it shouldnt be necessary and they really should fix this.
if you're only interested in emulation, get the ayn odin 2. performance will run circles around this with the Snapdragon 8 Gen 2.
if you want to play recent games get a ROG ally Z1 extreme or steam Deck. nothing else really is out yet that can match them
You should of tried ChimeraOS instead since that one is more up to date since HoloISO stopped updating their OS.
This could be pretty decent if you use it for emulation-only and some older games
let a actual tech person do something with the next, as letting Austin do it is like watching you're grandma play with tech
Do one about the rog ally
Ayaneo's customer service is known for their notoriousness and pure incompetence.
Just get a Steamdeck second hand or save up for a new one.
$50 difference in price, think i'd go for the steamdeck.
This one is good for those who are comfortable tinkering with windows, like me. Id rather have these than the steam os on steamdeck. you can do anything on windows nuff said.
I can't wait gor the day that a competitively priced Windows handheld launches.