What a great set up. No mill around normal shops could do it or even try. The time and set up costs must be good for the shop N machinists . Real machinists at work.
The rolls are chilled iron and work hardened when the need re-surfacing, tough on lathe inserts let alone a milling cutter. I've had them come with 4 grooves from a previous shop, they gave up. The biggest Ive done are 24"D x 48"L, 3Ton.
What a beautiful machine. I have wanted to find such a machine to buy in the uk for years. Unfortunately Im still looking and hoping one will eventually turn up.
Still have one 189? model 12ft table, doing the same task for local commercial feed mills. It still runs a 2" flat drive belt - 3 flat pulleys with a middle neutral. I found the directional control to be a bit fussy so: I made a stepper motor driven belt controller/ IR sensors to control direction, added a large stepper to run the roll indexer 65million steps for 1 complete rotation of the roller being cut, and a small stepper to lift the clapper box toolholder. I run carbide inserts so no reverse drag is allowed. I don't get much call for helical work so I mothballed the sine bar setup, the old one wore out and the linear bearing replacement is incomplete at this stage. Been doing it since 1995, was use mechanically for same 30 years prior. Planer was originally used in railroad repair - for steam engine parts Im told..
Cool video. I'm about to pickup a metal planet this Wednesday. Can you explain to me the mechanism that spins turns the bar? Is it built into the machine? Or can you find one after market
Is that a long ramp that I see on the fixed part of the machine base that controls the movement of the twist ?? Then it must reach the high point of the ramp at the end of the cut and do an index at the end. Is this correct ? I used to work at the grain elevators in Buffalo NY and have seen these rolls. They used to have a huge Landis cylindrical grinder to sharpen them, with the index setup as well.
You're correct about the ramp on the back of the machine, it can be adjusted to change the angle of the helix. The indexing happens while the table is reversing back to the start of the next cut.
This is the first time I've seen helical planing, quite a fantastic thing to see.
Roots blowers also.
@@kooldoozer Ok, and?
What a great set up. No mill around normal shops could do it or even try. The time and set up costs must be good for the shop N machinists . Real machinists at work.
The rolls are chilled iron and work hardened when the need re-surfacing, tough on lathe inserts let alone a milling cutter. I've had them come with 4 grooves from a previous shop, they gave up. The biggest Ive done are 24"D x 48"L, 3Ton.
lovely work and nice to still see the old machines still making a living
This takes me back when I machined different large parts on a Cincinnati open planer. Thanks for the memories.
I have worked on a planner for 5 years...I love this machine. But it requires strength, will and mind.
I like what you said. Can you elaborate? I'm going to pickup my first planer this Wednesday
Brilliant, a learned about this in my class but never seen in all these year no where even in UA-cam. great respect to you
First time I have ever seen a helical cut mill roller.
Old doesn't mean bad. A good use for otherwise maligned vintage technology.
What a beautiful machine. I have wanted to find such a machine to buy in the uk for years. Unfortunately Im still looking and hoping one will eventually turn up.
Modern day machinists need a 4 axis CNC to do work they could do in 1910. Nice job!
And in 1910, machinists could only dream of the productivity of a 4 axis CNC. That goes both ways.
Real finger remover of a machine.
great job. awesome set up
Still have one 189? model 12ft table, doing the same task for local commercial feed mills. It still runs a 2" flat drive belt - 3 flat pulleys with a middle neutral. I found the directional control to be a bit fussy so: I made a stepper motor driven belt controller/ IR sensors to control direction, added a large stepper to run the roll indexer 65million steps for 1 complete rotation of the roller being cut, and a small stepper to lift the clapper box toolholder. I run carbide inserts so no reverse drag is allowed. I don't get much call for helical work so I mothballed the sine bar setup, the old one wore out and the linear bearing replacement is incomplete at this stage. Been doing it since 1995, was use mechanically for same 30 years prior. Planer was originally used in railroad repair - for steam engine parts Im told..
From Spain incredible
Awesome to see my Grandfathers machine still running! Is the large grinder still ticking as well ?
Yes it’s still here. Haven’t used it for a few years
Excellent
Amazing 🎉🎉
Cool video. I'm about to pickup a metal planet this Wednesday. Can you explain to me the mechanism that spins turns the bar? Is it built into the machine? Or can you find one after market
Good. First grooving machine
First grooving machine
Huh?
Is that a long ramp that I see on the fixed part of the machine base that controls the movement of the twist ?? Then it must reach the high point of the ramp at the end of the cut and do an index at the end. Is this correct ? I used to work at the grain elevators in Buffalo NY and have seen these rolls. They used to have a huge Landis cylindrical grinder to sharpen them, with the index setup as well.
You're correct about the ramp on the back of the machine, it can be adjusted to change the angle of the helix. The indexing happens while the table is reversing back to the start of the next cut.
That ramp is called a sine bar.
@@MarkSmith-nw4os Sine bars have radii for which to pivot a fixed length. This is just a chunk of steel.
Super 🎉
Yes no cnc bullshit love it
That's price of Bangladesh
You sure this is allowed?? I've got to call some people..