When I first saw the video, I thought that the catcher was trying to show up the umpire. However, upon looking through the complete video replay available on Jomboy's website, I see that an important detail was missing. The pitcher signaled to the umpire that he wanted another ball. The umpire had previously (just a few seconds earlier) thrown the ball directly to the pitcher. So, when the catcher saw the pitcher make eye contact with the umpire while signaling for a new ball, the catcher just assumed the umpire was going to throw him the ball again. That is why he turned down his glove ... he thought the umpire was going to do the same thing he just did a moment ago, namely throw the ball directly to the pitcher. Consequently, the catcher withdrew his glove. The umpire, who was expecting some sort of blowback from the pitcher or the catcher for the pitch clock violation took that action the wrong way. The umpire expected a reaction to the pitch clock call and, in his mindset, found one. It was a case of confirmation bias. The facts fit the model formed in the umpire's mind. In this instance, the catcher was completely innocent.
For those that may have missed the context and what actually transpired (seems like a lot of conjecture) at 1:26 you see the pitcher ask for a new ball and the umpire throws it to him. Just as he threw it, Realmuto was turning around to ask for the ball so he could throw it to his pitcher. Then, amidst the ask, he realizes his pitcher has a new ball and without knowing the umpire was providing him one he turned his glove away.
Yea the pitcher asks for 2 balls in a row (3 total), he's antagonizing the ump, after being called for a pitch clock. The ump reacts poorly by throwing out the catcher because he thinks the catcher is also doing antagonizing behavior (when he moved his glove away). IDK why they cut the pitcher antagonizing the ump out of the video. So much context before hand added, but cropped the most important part.
@@diox8tony But if the umpire knew the pitcher had a ball/wasn’t calling for another, why would he give another ball to TJ? That, to me, is what the ump should have realized and laughed it off. It’s spring training, chill out.
@@buddtugley4249 in the uncut version of this scene, the pitcher is thrown 1 ball directly by the ump, but rejects the ball and asks for another one instead. Since the previous ball was thrown by the ump directly, JT assumed after several moments of not having a ball in his glove that this one would also be thrown directly by the ump. Instead it was dropped when he took his glove down.
This is interesting stuff. But what surprised me was that, clearly in slow motion, TJ didn't even turn but his eyes acted as if he knew the ref was dropping the ball onto his grove and he just pulled it down right before the ball was in the grove. It almost seemedlike someone gave him a sign to drop his grove down. How hilarious that was. SUPERB CAMERA ANGLE. 👍👍🤣😂
Rosenburg had JUST thrown a ball out to the pitcher, and when Kimbrel asked for another, is there even a slight chance that Realmuto thought the ump would throw another to the pitcher??? What a snap-head! JT deserves an apology, impo.
Were any of you watching the same thing I was?????? JT is 100% at fault here. He orchestrates the game, as a catcher. He motioned for a new ball, ump dug into his pockets to get a new 1, JT retracted his glove before the transaction was done. In NO way is the ump at fault.
That ump deserves a fine. Baseball is in the toilet because of man baby crap unwritten rules.....now that the man babies have all been addressed, like hey everyone thinks you guys are children when you throw at the head of a batter cause one of them celebrated a little too long. And the umps are just so bad it's pushing fans away. They are the worst officiating in all of pro sports. They would do so much better if they fired the ump union and went with the wbc crew. 98% of them show terrible call after terrible call game after game. Even in the decade I shunned all baseball I still new who angel Hernandez was why he's famous. It's for being bad.
Finally some good old umpire action. I don't know about you all but there's just been so much baseball this spring that I was worried that the umps might not be ready to take the spotlight later this week when Umpball truly kicks off. I swear to god if any of these overprivledged "athletes" try to ruin what I REALLY came to see (the umps of course) I hope Randy Rosenburg just throws everybody out the game and we can finally watch 2.5 hours of some good umpiring for once.
This ejection seems odd to me. Unless something was said or there was some other indication of ‘passive resistance’ by the catcher, I can’t see how this could be judged as anything but an honest mistake. The catcher wasn’t even looking so it was pure luck he pulled it away right as the umpire was dropping the ball in. The announcers might be right about this one. He put the glove up out of habit and came down without thinking.
The pitcher got called for a clock violation, and then chucked the ball he had away while staring down the ump, and then went back to the mound, got another ball, then threw that one away as well. Pitcher was being a dick and then the catcher pops up with his "let the ball drop" fake thing. I'm sure in his mind the umpire went "are you fucking kidding me, that's three balls in a row you guys have wasted, bam, ejection."
Being a Phillies fan I'll tell you that JT is the most laid back guy on the team and not a chance he did anything to "show up" this moron behind the plate. Terrible ejection
We’ll all take your word that JT is an angel. If you say so I’m sure nothing was said. The stupidity of non umpires that comment on here is mind numbing.
@@bradt7451 that was the 1st time in his career he's been ejected. Realmuto has a reputation of being a real laid back even keel guy. Not know to be a hot head at all. Even after he was thrown out he still had a semi smile on his face.
I'm glad he got thrown out now he gets to call out l Craig Kimbrel and tell him to stop being such a little baby when he gets called for a pitch clock violation this wouldn't have happened if kimbrel just thrown that effing ball
Bro are you really not going to mention anything about Craig Kimbrel acting like a little baby the umpires are not the problem with baseball the players are
Also important to note that Realmuto raised his glove for a ball TWICE (both times Kimbreal threw a ball away). When Kimbrel threw away the first ball he raised and turned, but the ump was already throwing to Kimbrel at the same time so Realmuto just put his glove down. Then Kimbrel threw away again so Realmuto raised again but didn't turn. When it didn't hit his glove quickly, he lowered it, just like he had 10 seconds earlier, because he figured the ump was just throwing it again. So completely ridiculous.
You know the Empire didn't get his feelings hurt he's enforcing the pitch clock and Craig Campbell was being a little baby about it to be catched deserve to be tossed no he didn't but if your actions get somebody else thrown out there's a better likelihood that you'll stop acting like a little donkey and just play the game
At 1:20 -- OK, kids. This is something you do not do. If you are pitching and into your windup, and the umpire calls time, continue your movement towards the plate. Stopping in the middle of your windup, or when you are about to release the ball, is a good way to get an arm injury. It is rare, but it does happen. I've seen it happen. I remember Fergie Jenkins inuring his arm doing that towards the end of his career.
Isn't this the exact situation you talked about in another recent video - not the ejection, but the potential of injuring a pitcher by calling time in the middle of a delivery - which is why you should let the pitch be delivered, then indicate the violation? I think it was the video of what if there's a pitch clock violation and HR is hit.
Wrong. If catcher had just used the ball the pitcher had, no delaying the game. If he had accepted the new ball, no delay. If he had left when ejected and manager not come out to argue there's no delay.
If you don't think these things get talked about from the league office all the way down to the crew chiefs, then you don't know what you're talking about. Yeah, the optics on this are pretty soft, but we don't know what was said to each other back there.
I think it would be fair to expect criticism of the umpire here, since we (this channel and myself) are happy to note when players or managers behave unreasonably or don't know the rules...
is there any accountability for these guys on ejections? I know it's spring training but if stuff like this happens in a regular season game, his soft feelings can cost a game for a team.
Nope. The Union protects them from most things -- they'd have to really *really* mess up, like physically attack a player/coach/fan level mess up to get punished.
I want to know how the manager didn't go crazy over this. There are far less questionable ejections where the manager flips a lid in response and gets tossed too.
Preseason. And the umpire is normally an umpire for AAA ball. No reason to go nuts, no reason to try to pump up your team, no reason to try to get in the umpire's memory for messing up the call because you'll likely never to see him again.
This is a great breakdown!! Well done! There is absolutely NO WAY that Realmuto did this on purpose and the ump is going to have to give an apology for this one. This ejection was brutal!
Doesn't even matter if it was on purpose that's a terrible ejection either way. Even if you're just being petty it makes the ump look worse to be so soft to throw someone out over something that, if it were intentional, would have been a harmless joke
Hey Lindsey. I was actually just leaving a comment on Jomboy's site about another video and recommending that he do a breakdown of this moment in the Jays/Phillies game, and when I finished writing that your video came up in the suggestions. A good analysis, and consider me a subscriber now. Jesus though, umps and their fragile egos/power trips, and in a spring training game no less. I mean all he had to do was take a moment and say to JT "Hey, was that intentional?", and if JT gave him some attitude then give him a warning or something. But clearly JT would have said "No, I just thought you were going to throw the ball or you weren't ready" (as someone said already here, JT is a pretty laid back guy. Hell, I know that, and I'm a Jays fan). Hopefully Randy gets this ego-driven bullshit out of his system before the regular season starts so that he doesn't become the next Angel Hernandez.
That's exactly why there should be a mechanism whereby a manager has the authority to toss an umpire, maybe three or four times total over the course of a season.. If the umpire toss carried a concurrent penalty of the entire crew losing their next game, maybe cooler heads would prevail. Maybe an ejection requiring ALL FOUR umps to vote for the ejection.
This overreaction is because blue's mindset is one of confrontation. He's supposed to be there to control the game, not to change it. Unfortunately the MLBUA acts like that's the way they want it, protecting bad umpiring instead of promoting betterment of the game.
Agreed on this. But the way they're treated supports it. Change needs to come at an organizational level first, trickle down to player culture, and only then will the umpires be on the hook for bettering the game.
@@dereksimmons5877 there's certainly something to be had there, but fans go to games to watch the players not to watch the umps. Players are the main attraction, umps are a supporting role. Umps are in charge of how they behave, and they don't need anybody else to change before they start acting right.
@@omc7109 I think most umps are good and take pride in their work. And they are willing to be confrontational (defend their body of work) when their legitimacy is called into question because players and coaches are confrontational with them regularly. (This is still absolutely a blown call)
In situations like this where the umpire reacts in a way because they misunderstand something....I wish there was a way the umpire could retract an ejection. Although keeping it the way it is means the umpire is 100% sure an ejection is warranted before doing so (which was not done here).
@@babababad but managers already argue about "why did you eject me (or one of the players)?" so it won't lead to more argument if umpires would/could take a moment to reflect and realize there was a misunderstanding and the ejection wasn't warranted. Like when a batter expresses frustration striking out looking and gets a quick hook: if the batter tells the ump, "I wasn't trying to show you up or complain about the call; I was upset that I froze on that pitch," if the ump believes him, the ump should be able to say, "Alright, you can stay in the game."
@@babababad players and managers already refuse to leave sometimes. In your hypothetical, the ump would just say "I'm not retracting your ejection" and then it would be the same as it currently is--they're ejected. So the player/manager would still be effectively ejected. The inability for umpires to retract ejections doesn't motivate ejected people to leave.
Yeah, I'll be honest, that looks to be a bad call by the Ump, there. It's situations like these that cause me to want there to be a mechanism to reverse an ejection. While I can see there being issues, depending on circumstances, if the Umps get together, and something like either they agree it was a bad call, or the Crew Chief can overrule the "Ejecting Ump", and overturn the ejection. For those circumstances where either the "Ejecting Ump" was the Crew Chief, or there isn't a Crew Chief on that Crew, like we saw last year, then the majority can "overrule" the bad call.
Because it doesn't support the narrative of this channel which is to provide excessive context which favours umpires and zero context which paints them in a negative light. This clip needs no context. The umpire made a mistake and overreacted by ejecting a player unnecessarily.
@@babababad no, but would it be that hard to simply come out and say that it was poor judgment or that it could have been handled differently? By adding irrelevant context you are trying to justify the umpire's actions or sympathize with how he may feel.
@@dean_604 I'd say Lin is basically doing that by letting the commentators statements stand without qualification. If anything this video makes the ump look worse by now showing what the pitcher did
Dude went 2000 games without ever being ejected. He gets his first from this clown show moment. MLB should do what the NBA does and rescind ejections that are not warranted.
Aside from the pitch clock…as long as the catcher frames the ball in the strike zone, it doesn’t matter where he actually catches it. THAT still hasn’t changed.
“Pitch clock strikes again!” So that was the reason for the ejection?? God forbid you be honest with yourself and everyone else and call an umpire out for being soft and making a knee jerk reaction that was absolutely, 100% wrong.
Agreed that it's two dead balls, but offering the second ball to the catcher right after he threw the first ball to the pitcher is still a rough loss of concentration on its own. He shouldn't have reacted to the catcher's glove at all.
Thankfully this happened in spring training and didn't cost the Phillies. Umps have to have more self control. The best umps are the ones you can't remember their names
I personally would have made a joke out of it and moved on unless the catcher said something to me that warranted an ejection. I can't say for sure it wasn't warranted and neither can any of you. If you aren't the plate umpire its hard to say without hearing it from him what really happened that cause him to eject the catcher.
you missed the part where he held up his glove and the ump threw the ball to the pitcher. so that time he thought the ump was throwing it to the pitcher again. Even the announcer says it right at the end. you should have showed that and the whole thing would have made more sense.
Has an ump ever admitted to being wrong and reversing an ejection? Cause if ever there was a time for that, this was it. Soft doesn’t even begin to describe what happened here.
He needs to be fired. No place for sensitive umpires at this level. I’ve seen situations where catcher moves out of way so pitch hits the umpire and no ejections happened. I’m surprised Dan backed him up.
@@caseyedward2890 no he doesn’t. I’ve seen many situations when a young umpire makes a bad ejection, and he doesn’t get any help. It would’ve been better if Dan didn’t help out so this ump could learn that he made a bad decision.
As the replacement catcher, one might be tempted to ask the ump, "Hey, just so I don't accidentally piss you off...what did he do wrong? I missed it, and nobody else seems to know." Totally innocent question, yet calls out the ump for being soft.
This umpire is a joke. Realmuto wasn’t even looking and he thought he had the speed of the umpire down. The umpire was slower so he was thrown. Why????
If the Umpire realizes it was just a mistake, then why compound it? Why not undo the ejection? They're allowed to, it has been done before with Orlando Palmeiro.
Really CCS? Why not call out the ridiculous unprofessionalism of the umpire? His little feefee's got hurt and he had to show everyone what a big man he is. Be A little unbiased and call out a bad move by an umpire. CCS missed this call completely.
Apparently this umpire was called up from AAA. Well, enjoy your time here in the majors while it lasts, Blue, because you just earned a one way ticket back to small ball. And over a small, innocent miscommunication too. This instance will also be added to the growing pile of why electronic umpires are needed.
not that it matters in any substantive way, but it’s kinda sh*tty that this is JT’s first ejection in MLB. sucks that the ump reacted so emotionally - I feel like that is a sticking point with people who generally advocate for removing human umps from the equation.
Let's add the pitch clock to speed up the game...ump let me toss catcher from the game for no reason then they have to bring in a new catcher, he has to warm up and waste some time...brilliant lol
Ump being thin-skinned here. Might have at least asked the catcher what's up. It's clear the catcher wasn't even looking at the ump and could not have known that he has about to place a ball in his glove.
New rule for next season... Umpires need two or more umpires in agreement for any and all ejections, so STUPID crap like this doesn't happen. Embarrassment to MLB umpires!
Am I the only one that thinks the entire purpose of the “Pitch Clock” is to move the game along and by the umpire inserting his interpretive skills into the equation exacerbated the situation. He created a greater spectacle and did more damage to the intrusive nature of the “Pitch Clock” and the resulting circus…MLB strikes again!
I don't get the snap ejection call. Even if the ump thought he was being shown up, why not wait a couple seconds after the catcher moves his glove out of the way to make the call? Then you can assess the situation a little better, see how the catcher reacts, etc. Maybe it's all a big (small, really) misunderstanding, and it all amounts to nothing. If you decide to throw him out after all, no one is going to notice or remember that you took 3 seconds instead of 0.3.
I am so glad that MLB fans tune in and PAY MONEY to watch the umpires and NOT the guys with there names on the backs of the jerseys. MLB umpires are like soccer players. Every incident is a personal attack on their existence and is life ending. Next, rolling around in faux agony and civil lawsuits against the players for emotional damages.
If this was an actual game that mattered it would be pretty egregious. Realmuto isn’t a cocky or argumentative guy and he basically just got ejected for nothing
These pampered baby umpires wouldn't last one period as a hockey ref. Seriously. A hockey ref would have said "What the F- is your problem?" Talked it out with a few more expletives from each side and moved on.
Did not know that it was not a mlb umpire, by what some of the comments said. I guess its back to the minors for him, he needs more training before he comes to major league baseball.
Massive overreaction by the umpire
When I first saw the video, I thought that the catcher was trying to show up the umpire. However, upon looking through the complete video replay available on Jomboy's website, I see that an important detail was missing. The pitcher signaled to the umpire that he wanted another ball.
The umpire had previously (just a few seconds earlier) thrown the ball directly to the pitcher. So, when the catcher saw the pitcher make eye contact with the umpire while signaling for a new ball, the catcher just assumed the umpire was going to throw him the ball again. That is why he turned down his glove ... he thought the umpire was going to do the same thing he just did a moment ago, namely throw the ball directly to the pitcher. Consequently, the catcher withdrew his glove.
The umpire, who was expecting some sort of blowback from the pitcher or the catcher for the pitch clock violation took that action the wrong way. The umpire expected a reaction to the pitch clock call and, in his mindset, found one. It was a case of confirmation bias. The facts fit the model formed in the umpire's mind.
In this instance, the catcher was completely innocent.
For those that may have missed the context and what actually transpired (seems like a lot of conjecture) at 1:26 you see the pitcher ask for a new ball and the umpire throws it to him. Just as he threw it, Realmuto was turning around to ask for the ball so he could throw it to his pitcher. Then, amidst the ask, he realizes his pitcher has a new ball and without knowing the umpire was providing him one he turned his glove away.
Yea the pitcher asks for 2 balls in a row (3 total), he's antagonizing the ump, after being called for a pitch clock. The ump reacts poorly by throwing out the catcher because he thinks the catcher is also doing antagonizing behavior (when he moved his glove away). IDK why they cut the pitcher antagonizing the ump out of the video. So much context before hand added, but cropped the most important part.
@@diox8tony But if the umpire knew the pitcher had a ball/wasn’t calling for another, why would he give another ball to TJ? That, to me, is what the ump should have realized and laughed it off. It’s spring training, chill out.
@@diox8tony Out of all the channels to criticize for having an anti-ref bias, this is not one of them.
@@buddtugley4249 in the uncut version of this scene, the pitcher is thrown 1 ball directly by the ump, but rejects the ball and asks for another one instead. Since the previous ball was thrown by the ump directly, JT assumed after several moments of not having a ball in his glove that this one would also be thrown directly by the ump. Instead it was dropped when he took his glove down.
This is interesting stuff. But what surprised me was that, clearly in slow motion, TJ didn't even turn but his eyes acted as if he knew the ref was dropping the ball onto his grove and he just pulled it down right before the ball was in the grove. It almost seemedlike someone gave him a sign to drop his grove down. How hilarious that was. SUPERB CAMERA ANGLE. 👍👍🤣😂
Rosenburg had JUST thrown a ball out to the pitcher, and when Kimbrel asked for another, is there even a slight chance that Realmuto thought the ump would throw another to the pitcher??? What a snap-head! JT deserves an apology, impo.
He'll never get it, this generation of umps are douches.
One-Hundo percent.
And that umpire needs to get fined. There’s no excuse for something like that.
100% deserves an apology. 0% at fault ejection! some BS
Were any of you watching the same thing I was?????? JT is 100% at fault here. He orchestrates the game, as a catcher. He motioned for a new ball, ump dug into his pockets to get a new 1, JT retracted his glove before the transaction was done. In NO way is the ump at fault.
I wouldn't blame the clock for this. No way he meant to show up blue here. That was a soft ejection and totally not called for😂
That ump deserves a fine. Baseball is in the toilet because of man baby crap unwritten rules.....now that the man babies have all been addressed, like hey everyone thinks you guys are children when you throw at the head of a batter cause one of them celebrated a little too long. And the umps are just so bad it's pushing fans away. They are the worst officiating in all of pro sports. They would do so much better if they fired the ump union and went with the wbc crew. 98% of them show terrible call after terrible call game after game. Even in the decade I shunned all baseball I still new who angel Hernandez was why he's famous. It's for being bad.
Well said
But that is what is up and coming....soft little bitches...Like most of sports and the world
Finally some good old umpire action. I don't know about you all but there's just been so much baseball this spring that I was worried that the umps might not be ready to take the spotlight later this week when Umpball truly kicks off. I swear to god if any of these overprivledged "athletes" try to ruin what I REALLY came to see (the umps of course) I hope Randy Rosenburg just throws everybody out the game and we can finally watch 2.5 hours of some good umpiring for once.
2.5?? I'm hoping for closer to 4!!
I bet you miss Joe West then.
(And just in case, Yes I know your comment was Sarcasm, So is mine.)
Wish they could answer to the media like the players do. massive overreaction
Dudes got eyes in the back of his head with that kinda timing. Good to see umps still making the game about themselves.
Ump’s softer than Charmin. Watch the same issue earlier in video. Catcher has his glove out for the ball and ump tosses it directly to pitcher.
That umpire should be embarrassed.
He was embarrassed! That's why he ejected JT🤣🤣 I'm glad this was spring training because it this was mid-season I'd be pissed!
*Realmuto embarrassed him yes, which is why he got ejected.*
@@strongestnattyever-videos2247 umpire needs to grow up, no one should be ejected for this.
what a sad, sad little man, probably born in the states
Wow, what a tool!
This ejection seems odd to me. Unless something was said or there was some other indication of ‘passive resistance’ by the catcher, I can’t see how this could be judged as anything but an honest mistake. The catcher wasn’t even looking so it was pure luck he pulled it away right as the umpire was dropping the ball in. The announcers might be right about this one. He put the glove up out of habit and came down without thinking.
I agree & probably forgot the ump just threw one to the pitcher. An honest mistake & force of habit.
No doubt ran his mouth
@William Anderson ni he didn't. You can see he wasn't saying anything. It's just a bad call and mistake.
@@ivanriverajr5012 lol yeah typical jock sniffer
The pitcher got called for a clock violation, and then chucked the ball he had away while staring down the ump, and then went back to the mound, got another ball, then threw that one away as well. Pitcher was being a dick and then the catcher pops up with his "let the ball drop" fake thing. I'm sure in his mind the umpire went "are you fucking kidding me, that's three balls in a row you guys have wasted, bam, ejection."
Being a Phillies fan I'll tell you that JT is the most laid back guy on the team and not a chance he did anything to "show up" this moron behind the plate. Terrible ejection
Thanks, Sherlock.
cry more
We’ll all take your word that JT is an angel. If you say so I’m sure nothing was said.
The stupidity of non umpires that comment on here is mind numbing.
@@bradt7451 that was the 1st time in his career he's been ejected. Realmuto has a reputation of being a real laid back even keel guy. Not know to be a hot head at all. Even after he was thrown out he still had a semi smile on his face.
I'm glad he got thrown out now he gets to call out l Craig Kimbrel and tell him to stop being such a little baby when he gets called for a pitch clock violation this wouldn't have happened if kimbrel just thrown that effing ball
This sums up umpiring in the 2020s perfectly
PREACH!!!!!
Bro are you really not going to mention anything about Craig Kimbrel acting like a little baby the umpires are not the problem with baseball the players are
@@michaelchipman1832 okay man… lol I think most baseball fans would agree the umpiring is ass these days.
@@michaelchipman1832 what did Kimbrel do to get JT thrown out the game for no reason
Also important to note that Realmuto raised his glove for a ball TWICE (both times Kimbreal threw a ball away). When Kimbrel threw away the first ball he raised and turned, but the ump was already throwing to Kimbrel at the same time so Realmuto just put his glove down. Then Kimbrel threw away again so Realmuto raised again but didn't turn. When it didn't hit his glove quickly, he lowered it, just like he had 10 seconds earlier, because he figured the ump was just throwing it again. So completely ridiculous.
MLB umpires try to not get in their feelings challenge (impossible)
He's a AAA umpire who has umpired less than 40 games in the show. His mistake was tossing the wrong player.
You know the Empire didn't get his feelings hurt he's enforcing the pitch clock and Craig Campbell was being a little baby about it to be catched deserve to be tossed no he didn't but if your actions get somebody else thrown out there's a better likelihood that you'll stop acting like a little donkey and just play the game
@@javtimestwo he shouldn't have tossed anyone
Don't ask for a ball than go oops too slow right after a violation about being too slow. Can definitely see why it can be seen as arguing the call
@@poisonpotato1 you can't possibly be defending the ump here. There's no way.
At 1:20 -- OK, kids. This is something you do not do. If you are pitching and into your windup, and the umpire calls time, continue your movement towards the plate. Stopping in the middle of your windup, or when you are about to release the ball, is a good way to get an arm injury. It is rare, but it does happen. I've seen it happen. I remember Fergie Jenkins inuring his arm doing that towards the end of his career.
Umpire should be punished/fined for this...
@@Jepiokl Right, which is why some measure needs to be taken so the ump doesn’t do this in the regular season where games matter.
Isn't this the exact situation you talked about in another recent video - not the ejection, but the potential of injuring a pitcher by calling time in the middle of a delivery - which is why you should let the pitch be delivered, then indicate the violation? I think it was the video of what if there's a pitch clock violation and HR is hit.
The umpire is worried about a pitch clock violation, but he even further delayed the game by throwing out the catcher, what a joke
That doesn't make a lot of sense. If somebody robs a bank, maybe we shouldn't prosecute them because that costs money?
@@tomokra why should the umpire be worried about doing his job? 🤷♂️
Wrong. If catcher had just used the ball the pitcher had, no delaying the game. If he had accepted the new ball, no delay. If he had left when ejected and manager not come out to argue there's no delay.
So we've got rules to speed up the games BUT when are we gonna get rules holding umps accountable for bad judgment or bad calls.
If you don't think these things get talked about from the league office all the way down to the crew chiefs, then you don't know what you're talking about.
Yeah, the optics on this are pretty soft, but we don't know what was said to each other back there.
I think it would be fair to expect criticism of the umpire here, since we (this channel and myself) are happy to note when players or managers behave unreasonably or don't know the rules...
Also worth noting, that was Realmuto's first ejection.
How come you didn't mention the ump threw the ball to the pitcher previously?
is there any accountability for these guys on ejections? I know it's spring training but if stuff like this happens in a regular season game, his soft feelings can cost a game for a team.
Nope. The Union protects them from most things -- they'd have to really *really* mess up, like physically attack a player/coach/fan level mess up to get punished.
@@FoxtasticGaming he probably realized that before the next pitch. Before that, he looked pretty crisp behind the plate.
I want to know how the manager didn't go crazy over this. There are far less questionable ejections where the manager flips a lid in response and gets tossed too.
Preseason. And the umpire is normally an umpire for AAA ball. No reason to go nuts, no reason to try to pump up your team, no reason to try to get in the umpire's memory for messing up the call because you'll likely never to see him again.
If I was the umpire there (unless something else was said), I would have a hard time not laughing at the situation. That's a really soft toss.
I can't lie that's a bad ejection. Always a bummer
This is a great breakdown!! Well done! There is absolutely NO WAY that Realmuto did this on purpose and the ump is going to have to give an apology for this one. This ejection was brutal!
Doesn't even matter if it was on purpose that's a terrible ejection either way. Even if you're just being petty it makes the ump look worse to be so soft to throw someone out over something that, if it were intentional, would have been a harmless joke
He wasn't even looking at the ump. He's an amazing catcher but no way he has a sixth sense THAT good! Lol
Hey Lindsey. I was actually just leaving a comment on Jomboy's site about another video and recommending that he do a breakdown of this moment in the Jays/Phillies game, and when I finished writing that your video came up in the suggestions. A good analysis, and consider me a subscriber now. Jesus though, umps and their fragile egos/power trips, and in a spring training game no less. I mean all he had to do was take a moment and say to JT "Hey, was that intentional?", and if JT gave him some attitude then give him a warning or something. But clearly JT would have said "No, I just thought you were going to throw the ball or you weren't ready" (as someone said already here, JT is a pretty laid back guy. Hell, I know that, and I'm a Jays fan). Hopefully Randy gets this ego-driven bullshit out of his system before the regular season starts so that he doesn't become the next Angel Hernandez.
That's exactly why there should be a mechanism whereby a manager has the authority to toss an umpire, maybe three or four times total over the course of a season.. If the umpire toss carried a concurrent penalty of the entire crew losing their next game, maybe cooler heads would prevail. Maybe an ejection requiring ALL FOUR umps to vote for the ejection.
when your ego rules your emotions, you shouldn't be in charge of a lunch line, yet alone professionals.
This overreaction is because blue's mindset is one of confrontation. He's supposed to be there to control the game, not to change it. Unfortunately the MLBUA acts like that's the way they want it, protecting bad umpiring instead of promoting betterment of the game.
Agreed on this. But the way they're treated supports it. Change needs to come at an organizational level first, trickle down to player culture, and only then will the umpires be on the hook for bettering the game.
@@dereksimmons5877 there's certainly something to be had there, but fans go to games to watch the players not to watch the umps. Players are the main attraction, umps are a supporting role. Umps are in charge of how they behave, and they don't need anybody else to change before they start acting right.
@@omc7109 I think most umps are good and take pride in their work. And they are willing to be confrontational (defend their body of work) when their legitimacy is called into question because players and coaches are confrontational with them regularly.
(This is still absolutely a blown call)
you know its a bad call when the opposing team's broadcast is the defending you.
In situations like this where the umpire reacts in a way because they misunderstand something....I wish there was a way the umpire could retract an ejection. Although keeping it the way it is means the umpire is 100% sure an ejection is warranted before doing so (which was not done here).
They can actually retract the ejection. It has happened exactly once in MLB.
Once you start retracting ejections, every manager is going to scream for a retraction after. every. ejection.
@@babababad but managers already argue about "why did you eject me (or one of the players)?" so it won't lead to more argument if umpires would/could take a moment to reflect and realize there was a misunderstanding and the ejection wasn't warranted.
Like when a batter expresses frustration striking out looking and gets a quick hook: if the batter tells the ump, "I wasn't trying to show you up or complain about the call; I was upset that I froze on that pitch," if the ump believes him, the ump should be able to say, "Alright, you can stay in the game."
@@rickl.461 fast forward to an already-ejected manager sitting down on home plate and shouting, "I'm not getting off until you retract that ejection!"
@@babababad players and managers already refuse to leave sometimes. In your hypothetical, the ump would just say "I'm not retracting your ejection" and then it would be the same as it currently is--they're ejected. So the player/manager would still be effectively ejected. The inability for umpires to retract ejections doesn't motivate ejected people to leave.
Yeah, I'll be honest, that looks to be a bad call by the Ump, there. It's situations like these that cause me to want there to be a mechanism to reverse an ejection. While I can see there being issues, depending on circumstances, if the Umps get together, and something like either they agree it was a bad call, or the Crew Chief can overrule the "Ejecting Ump", and overturn the ejection. For those circumstances where either the "Ejecting Ump" was the Crew Chief, or there isn't a Crew Chief on that Crew, like we saw last year, then the majority can "overrule" the bad call.
And put a timer on it. If they don’t decide in 18.23 seconds then the ejection is automatically overturned.
Doesn't angel Hernandez still lead when he's on the field? Baseball needs to grow up. The whole league is just juvenile
They can't fire an individual ump, they need to fire the union.
I really like that idea.
At worst, that deserved a "c'mon, man". Clear overreaction with the ejection.
Why did you not go back and talk about what happened at 1:28 of JT asking for the ball and Randy throws it back to Kimbrel on the mound?
Because it doesn't support the narrative of this channel which is to provide excessive context which favours umpires and zero context which paints them in a negative light. This clip needs no context. The umpire made a mistake and overreacted by ejecting a player unnecessarily.
@@dean_604in this case, Lin is not making excuses for the ump in any way
@@babababad no, but would it be that hard to simply come out and say that it was poor judgment or that it could have been handled differently? By adding irrelevant context you are trying to justify the umpire's actions or sympathize with how he may feel.
@@babababad go watch the Jomboy breakdown to it and you will see what we are talking about. She find and out for umpires in almost all of her videos
@@dean_604 I'd say Lin is basically doing that by letting the commentators statements stand without qualification. If anything this video makes the ump look worse by now showing what the pitcher did
Dude went 2000 games without ever being ejected. He gets his first from this clown show moment. MLB should do what the NBA does and rescind ejections that are not warranted.
Good job, buddy. You just blew your shot at umping in the majors.
Umpire thinks someone's trying to make him look like a fool so he makes an ass of himself. Can't beat the classics.
Eject the ump
Aside from the pitch clock…as long as the catcher frames the ball in the strike zone, it doesn’t matter where he actually catches it. THAT still hasn’t changed.
“Pitch clock strikes again!” So that was the reason for the ejection?? God forbid you be honest with yourself and everyone else and call an umpire out for being soft and making a knee jerk reaction that was absolutely, 100% wrong.
Another example of how these narcissistic umpires think everyone is there to see them.
Why, when the umpire just threw a ball to the pitcher, would he also give the catcher a ball? Wouldn’t that put two live balls out there?
No it would be two dead balls. The game has not been resumed.
Agreed that it's two dead balls, but offering the second ball to the catcher right after he threw the first ball to the pitcher is still a rough loss of concentration on its own. He shouldn't have reacted to the catcher's glove at all.
Thankfully this happened in spring training and didn't cost the Phillies. Umps have to have more self control. The best umps are the ones you can't remember their names
how would the catcher have known the ball was about to hit his glove to pull it away at the exact time for it to miss…..the ump must be brain dead
I personally would have made a joke out of it and moved on unless the catcher said something to me that warranted an ejection. I can't say for sure it wasn't warranted and neither can any of you. If you aren't the plate umpire its hard to say without hearing it from him what really happened that cause him to eject the catcher.
Ump got embarrassed and took it out on someone else. Shocker
you missed the part where he held up his glove and the ump threw the ball to the pitcher. so that time he thought the ump was throwing it to the pitcher again. Even the announcer says it right at the end. you should have showed that and the whole thing would have made more sense.
"Spite" is not a valid reason for ejection...
Has an ump ever admitted to being wrong and reversing an ejection? Cause if ever there was a time for that, this was it. Soft doesn’t even begin to describe what happened here.
Baseball lost me when they moved the all star game for a non sense voting issue. I'm glad I will be missing the game I loved for soo long.
He needs to be fired. No place for sensitive umpires at this level. I’ve seen situations where catcher moves out of way so pitch hits the umpire and no ejections happened. I’m surprised Dan backed him up.
Dan has to
@@caseyedward2890 no he doesn’t. I’ve seen many situations when a young umpire makes a bad ejection, and he doesn’t get any help. It would’ve been better if Dan didn’t help out so this ump could learn that he made a bad decision.
As the replacement catcher, one might be tempted to ask the ump, "Hey, just so I don't accidentally piss you off...what did he do wrong? I missed it, and nobody else seems to know."
Totally innocent question, yet calls out the ump for being soft.
Probably would've gotten tossed too.
@@brianstever2146 came to say the exact same thing. Haha
Stop. Stop. You're gone
Is it a job requirement for Umpires to not have been hugged enough as kids? LOL
Why? I don't get it. There's no need to do that. Umpire is simply too sensitive.
Looking for the Jomboy breakdown and some lip reading
isn't an official of any major sport supposed to be better than this
The pitch clock, designed to speed up the game, will in the long run will slow it down. it's an absolutely stupid rule.
This umpire is a joke. Realmuto wasn’t even looking and he thought he had the speed of the umpire down. The umpire was slower so he was thrown. Why????
Realmuto didn't deserve an ejection. Umpires really should be disciplined when childish calls like that are made. It probably never happen though.
When are umpires going to face consequences for these outrageous ejections?
Ump should be fined. Everyone who thinks they shouldn't be fined, should also be fined
If the Umpire realizes it was just a mistake, then why compound it? Why not undo the ejection? They're allowed to, it has been done before with Orlando Palmeiro.
They've given umps way too much power and they are on a power trip with all this extra pitch clock shenanigans.
Manager comes out to get an explanation for the toss, and the umpire says "Look, I'm not here to play games!!!"
Really CCS? Why not call out the ridiculous unprofessionalism of the umpire? His little feefee's got hurt and he had to show everyone what a big man he is. Be A little unbiased and call out a bad move by an umpire. CCS missed this call completely.
Ridiculous. You can never go wrong overestimating an umpire's ego.
I always said ejection should have an appeal process and this proves it. Imagine this botch in a regular season game or worse world's series!
Putting a 2nd string catcher in there seems like a good way for the catcher to miss one that's coming in right about the Ump's nose level...
Apparently this umpire was called up from AAA. Well, enjoy your time here in the majors while it lasts, Blue, because you just earned a one way ticket back to small ball. And over a small, innocent miscommunication too. This instance will also be added to the growing pile of why electronic umpires are needed.
not that it matters in any substantive way, but it’s kinda sh*tty that this is JT’s first ejection in MLB. sucks that the ump reacted so emotionally - I feel like that is a sticking point with people who generally advocate for removing human umps from the equation.
That was a clear and blatant abuse of power.
Let's add the pitch clock to speed up the game...ump let me toss catcher from the game for no reason then they have to bring in a new catcher, he has to warm up and waste some time...brilliant lol
Wow. Guess we miss those retired umps already
This sport lost its zest decades ago. No fun to watch now
No such thing as showing up an ump, they are not supposed to be part of the show. He is just being a cry baby on a power trip.
Ump being thin-skinned here. Might have at least asked the catcher what's up. It's clear the catcher wasn't even looking at the ump and could not have known that he has about to place a ball in his glove.
New rule for next season... Umpires need two or more umpires in agreement for any and all ejections, so STUPID crap like this doesn't happen. Embarrassment to MLB umpires!
Am I the only one that thinks the entire purpose of the “Pitch Clock” is to move the game along and by the umpire inserting his interpretive skills into the equation exacerbated the situation. He created a greater spectacle and did more damage to the intrusive nature of the “Pitch Clock” and the resulting circus…MLB strikes again!
It's spring training. Umpires have to practice their moves too. That "heave ho" was lackluster but wait until he gets into mid-season form.
The whole game is out of sorts. Too bad how they are in the process of destroying it.
I guess the umpire needs his own time out so he can go to his safe space.
The whole idea of having a pitch clock is wrong. The game was fine without it, and now we have stupid stuff like this as a result.
Wow that Umpire is a major snowflake and should be fined.
I don't get the snap ejection call. Even if the ump thought he was being shown up, why not wait a couple seconds after the catcher moves his glove out of the way to make the call? Then you can assess the situation a little better, see how the catcher reacts, etc. Maybe it's all a big (small, really) misunderstanding, and it all amounts to nothing. If you decide to throw him out after all, no one is going to notice or remember that you took 3 seconds instead of 0.3.
JT gets ejected for possible thought crime.
I am so glad that MLB fans tune in and PAY MONEY to watch the umpires and NOT the guys with there names on the backs of the jerseys. MLB umpires are like soccer players. Every incident is a personal attack on their existence and is life ending. Next, rolling around in faux agony and civil lawsuits against the players for emotional damages.
Thanks for that one. Can an umpire take back or cancel an ejection?
Self conscious ump ejects someone who’s never been ejected in 2000 games.
Anybody getting a visual of Cartman say "Respect my Authority....?"
If this was an actual game that mattered it would be pretty egregious. Realmuto isn’t a cocky or argumentative guy and he basically just got ejected for nothing
These umps need to start being suspended
“Randy Rosenberg, the home plate umpire, kills his chances of being called up to MLB. And the Phillies are shouting from their dugout.”
The umpire should be embarrassed for overreacting.
These pampered baby umpires wouldn't last one period as a hockey ref. Seriously. A hockey ref would have said "What the F- is your problem?" Talked it out with a few more expletives from each side and moved on.
I also wonder what “Standard of removal” this was under.
Did not know that it was not a mlb umpire, by what some of the comments said. I guess its back to the minors for him, he needs more training before he comes to major league baseball.
Umps are like politicians. They do whatever they want without being checked.
Please provide some evidence for this assertion.
@@Niel2760 First time on UA-cam?
MLB needs to start holding these clowns responsible. This is ridiculous, start firing and or fining these umpires