2001 Honda S2000 - POV Delivery & First Drive
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- Опубліковано 20 жов 2024
- This week I bought a 2001 Honda S2000 with my best bud Tom!
143k miles
Engine: DOHC inline-4, aluminum block and head, port fuel injection
240 hp at 8300 rpm, 153 lb-ft at 7500 rpm
6-Speed manual transmission
Curb weight: 2,809 lbs
Tire size: Front: P205/55R16, rear: P225/50R16
Wheel size: Front 16″ diameter, 6.5″ width; rear 16″ diameter, 7.5″ width
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This week I bought a 2001 Honda S2000 with my best bud!
143k miles
Engine: DOHC inline-4, aluminum block and head, port fuel injection
240 hp at 8300 rpm, 153 lb-ft at 7500 rpm
6-Speed manual transmission
Curb weight: 2,809 lbs
Tire size: Front: P205/55R16, rear: P225/50R16
Wheel size: Front 16″ diameter, 6.5″ width; rear 16″ diameter, 7.5″ width
How much you pay for it
@@tayseersaeed556412 grand.
@@brq44😮 lucky 🦆
@@jackpowell8155 Not me lol
Congrats man! Looks like so much fun.
Bro I can't get over the fact that Honda made such a legendary car to mark their era of 'good' sports cars
What Honda s2000 22 year ago in the 2023
It’s not hard to believe, Honda has a legendary spot in real racing performance and development. You just have to look at Lemans Mugen NSX, their Gp moto or F1 heritage. They know sports and race cars very well.
They still make amazing sports car today, FL5.
@@Seramicsit’s a good hot hatch but not a sports car.
What kind of comment is this lol
TheTopher and an S2K = immediate like
S2000's still have something so special with their driving experience. Not the fastest or most capable things on the road, but so much character and so engaging
For sure. That's really all you want once you get over the fast car bug. Most recent cars are almost completely devoid of emotion/character by comparison. It's almost become software infused rather than mechanical at this point...ie pops and bangs
I wish I would have gotten an S2K instead of a first gen BRZ...back then 15-18k bought you one in near showroom condition. I had so much remorse when I took a ride in a friend's S2K with a nice intake and exhaust....the BRZ is so boring and feels so much slower in comparison. Not to mention Subaru quality or lack there of...
Have an ND2 Miata now, it's as close as you can get for a modern car. Thing is damn quick on a backroad stock...they aren't slow anymore. lol. Even those are almost too fast for most backroads...speed limits still exist
But nothing beats that induction sound and seemingly endless redline of an S2K....wish they weren't so expensive nowadays. I would have loved to pick one up instead of the Miata, but dropping 30-35k on a car that's nearly 20 years old for a daily driver vs 32500 for a 3700 mile 2020 Club with Recaros. Easy choice for me.
This seems like a steal for today's S2K market! With some time, money, and love it's going to be a great car. Most S2Ks around that price are probably salvage titles or beat to piss.
I’ve been having a lot of trouble deciding whether I want this or a GR86 for my next sports car. I currently own an NB Miata, and while it can show it’s fun character sometimes, it’s also covered in rust and makes a bunch of scary noises. I’m probably one of the only people to say this but I hate my Miata because of that and I don’t think I want another one. I’m trying to sell it now and it’s a nightmare. I know S2000s aren’t the same car at all but I can’t help but see the resemblance, plus it’s going to be like a 25 year old car by the time I can get my hands on one, and like you said they’ll either be beat to piss or be collectible items. GR86 sounds like the way to go, but if I ever drove a nice S2000, I feel like I’d be pretty sad about getting the 86. Ig I just gotta wait and see how Topher compares this car and his 86.
@@samstedman409 as someone who has owned 7 s2000's and driven GR86 on street, canyon, and track, I can tell you that they are both awesome cars but also very different. Relative to your NB, the s2000 will feel like a very violent and angry version of that car. I found the GR86 to be a better balanced car in terms of handling. Feels better to drive at the limit. But, the GR86 is struggling with reliability because of the RTV issues and Oil starvation on cornering. S2000's have been around for ages so the guess work for reliability mods is done and are just about bullet proof with a few of the right measures
Back in 2000, those headlights were one of the identifying features of the S2000. Was very easy to tell an S2000 at night. You could see it flickering all sorts of rainbow colors as it came towards you from the distance. When it was close enough, you see the massive amounts of light that was on the road as it got closer. As it past and you look back, you see just how wide that flood of light on the road is. This tiny car and what looks like huge wide wings of light on each side as it disappears in your rearview.
Today, we have brighter and better lit roads with LED headlights, but back then, nothing else on the road at night was quite like it.
As a long time S2000 owner, you just took me back... something that people rarely talk about, but you're spot on. Miss those early days when you could still walk into a showroom and see them for sale!
Easy to forget that these cars are over 20 years old. A true testament to build quality and timeless styling. The best shifter in the business IMO
Two happy parents! 😂
Nice car, I can see you guys enjoying this a lot!
Oh man, best thing we’ve done!
One of the best manuals ever.
Feels like a bolt action rifle.
The human DSG has bought one of the best manual cars ever made! Gonna be fun to watch. Congrats!
Human DSG?
@@1anreDicks Sporting Goods?
PDK
Congrats man!! You bought one of the drivers cars to date. Such a raw car that you don’t need to drive at crazy speeds to enjoy. I will be getting an AP1 sometime in the future, until then I’ll be watching videos of you enjoying yours 😂
Hard to get more fun than that for $12k. Congrats.
The only other options I can think of would be a C4 or C5 and I guess a Miata if speed isn’t a huge factor for someone
for that milage and state you lose in europe around 35k
I drove one like 16 years ago and it has left an impression on me. One the best feeling sports cars I have had the privilege to drive
Me too
6:40 I can feel how happy the man is
Congratulations. This car is the quintessence of what Honda once was. I'm glad that the risk you guys took was ultimately rewarded with what appears to be a great car. The S2000 isn't everyone's cup of tea but I've had mine for over 6 years now and really enjoy it. My favorite thing remains the fact that it is a roadster as top-down driving is the best.
Welcome to the S2000 family ! Always a thrill every time I drive mine !
Bought my 2000 with 41k miles June last year. Absolutely obsessed with it still. I'll probably be buried in my S2000
Congrats with the S2000 !!!
I own a 2002 S2K since 2010. Bought with about 80000km on it and now it has 190000km and i still love this car so much.
If i sell it, i will surely regret it.
As all car enthousiasts, i'am looking for another sportscar now and then and i can sell my S2K to raise my budget, but that is not a good idea. Better buy something cheaper as a extra fun car and keep the S2K.
I must say that my S2K is not my daily car, i only drive it as a weekend/summer car. As a daily and only car it wouldn't be my car.
It is always noisy, you have to work for speed because it needs high reving. Driving in snow and rain can be very tricky and with the roof up, the blind spots behind are BIG.
BUT!!! If you drive it on a sunny day with the roof down on a twisty road, everything falls in place and it is a dream!❤
Greetings from the Netherlands
As current owner of ap1 and ap2, welcome to the family!
Couldn't click this one fast enough... long time fan of the channel and long time S2000 owner. Keep this one for a long time, you can't find a driving experience like it for the price, but I know I don't have to tell you that :) Godspeed and may your days be long filled with the chorus of 9000 RPM!
Hell yeah this was the car meant for the Topher! Miss my AP1 badly and can’t wait to get one in the future again.
Congrats. Three time S2k owner here. I made the mistake of selling the other two. My 2004 Rio Yellow Pearl with 30k miles is a keeper….I think the S2k is the best bang for the buck when it comes to analog driving experience and smiles for the dollar. I used to say this and the E46 M3, which I have also owned a few of, but the BMW costs a lot more to maintain.
For 12 grand that's a pretty sweeet deal! Happy you went with the AP1
Wow I can’t find one under 22k around me
@@Paiittthis one had over 130k miles that’s why it was cheap
Congrats on the purchase. I love taking my 2003 AP1 to redline. Definitely invigorating. It feels so connected and special. Enjoy!
Congrats! I started watching your channel about two months ago when I was cross shopping brz/86/S2K/nd2 and have been watching ever since.
I picked up my first S2K (2002) a month ago and am excited that we are on similar paths. Can't wait for your upcoming S2K vids!
Congratulations! One of the best drivers cars ever made, such an experience with the open top, stiff x bone chassis, character filled engine with crazy redline and one of the best and most engaging gearboxes of all time!
Congrats, what a great buy!
Watching this POV I realise that nobody uses or cares about the in-car Navigation anymore, phone holders and google maps/waze is so much more useful and so this era of car has suddenly gained most of the modern practicality offered by screens and electronics.
No better manual transmission has ever been put in an automobile.
Have owned my S2000 for nearly 3 years. Best car I've ever driven and I never want to sell it. I've done lots of handling mods, nothing engine related so far besides an intake and exhaust to get some more noise out of it but I hope you will enjoy yours for many many miles to come! :)
Topher you SOB, this has been a dream car since seeing it in person inside Somerset mall when introduced in Spring of 2000. Can't wait to see the rebuild.
I soooo wanted one of these back in the day until I tried sitting in one. I simply didn’t fit. I couldn’t get my leg under the steering wheel at 6’3”. It crushed my dreams, but I still appreciate seeing them out on the road. Can’t wait for some awesome future S2000 content!
I’m 6’2” - it’s a serious struggle getting in and out. Cheers!
@@thomasoneill5653 did you get some lower seat brackets?
The AP1 is the better S2000 and the AP2 is the better car. Cant go wrong with either. I bought an AP2 since i plan on daily driving mine and wanted the QOL changes. I love it, congrats!!!
I imagine people typically say such things to make themselves feel better about whatever model they wound up with. Both are great. Fortunately North America and Japan ultimately received both models - people in these markets should buy whatever version appeals the most to them.
@VirtualGuth you literally said the same thing i did, although a bit more cynical. Thank you?
@@DraegerV1 I've just never bought into the whole AP1 = the better S2000, AP2 = the better car thing. Those looking into buying a S2000 should focus on what aspects of the various versions they value most and shop accordingly. Those who have a limited budget obviously should buy what they can afford and know that every version of the S2000 is capable of racking up a lot of miles when properly maintained. S2000's in any form as they came from Honda offer plenty of fun for those who enjoy spending time at the upper end of the RPM range. It's also worth noting that as not everyone enjoys such cars, the S2000 definitely isn't for everyone.
@VirtualGuth logical explanation. I just think its cool that we do have the AP1 and AP2. More hardcore or less hardcore. Like, the S2000 is already an amazing car, and the fact that we have 2 versions to pick from is awesome. I still stand by the saying above. The AP1 is noticeably more edgy, while the AP2 is a bit more "daily friendly.'' Cant go wrong with either.
that's goals to get such a cool car with your best friend
Welcome to the club. I've owned my '02 S2K AP1 for 12 years and have never given a thought to owning another sports car. Wait until you can stretch it out on some mountain roads! Cheers
in 2014, I bought a 2009 S2000 (chicane silver/black leather) with 14,000 miles (I'm in Canada but let's talk miles and USD $). I paid 23k USD and my friends thought I was crazy as you could buy older models for $15k. This one was like brand new. A year later I was washing the car and someone pulled up in a 1997 NSX an offered me 29k on the spot. At the time, I thought I was a genius as I made a quick $6k and put a few hundred miles on the car. Now that car is probably worth 50k and I'll never find another one like it.
Huge JDM lover here, also owner of a AP1 it’s a great machine and once you get to fixing it up how you all want it to be. This masterpiece will be enjoyable for years to come, congrats guys!
Can I just take a moment to say "holy shit, I just saw The Topher's real face!" ???
Looks fantastic! Didn't realize Tom had never been in an S2k, that's so fun for him!
Hoping he fits.
@@Affalterbach1967like a bug in a rug!
It's crazy to think that I've bought my 1 Owner, 69k miles 2001 S2000 back in 2017 in pristine condition for $12,000 just like you two have paid, I have easily negotiated $2,000 off which he originally listed at $14,000. Sub'ed for future updates!
A like alone doesn't express my excitement. Lots of great things to come.
congratulations dude! that thing is a absolute staple.
I remember when I was a kid and these came out I love the design so much, that long hood and the seats further back... Perfect roadster. And then they turned out to be actually good. Congrats guys I'm jealous!
As soon I saw the title on my feed I went LETS GO. gonna be a great vid
$12k is an amazing deal! Congrats!
Really excited for you! I remember the very early vids of the S2000 screaming on the highway and having to crop the video to hide the speedo! First couple months will be spent trying to fix up whatever needs to be maintained. Then eventually it'll be ready but it's always running after something or another. As long as you're up for it, then great stuff!
Damn, you finally bought one. Can't wait to see what you'll do with it in the future.
Freaking s2000 bae, congratulations. 🎉🎉🎉❤
I have a 2007 AP2 that I bought 10 years ago with only 23k miles on it and it now has only 47k miles on it. It's silver with the red/black interior and all original except for a Panasonic Bluetooth stereo. Love every minute when I'm in it.
I had a 2004 Civic coupe as my first car. Drove it for 8 years, did shifter upgrades, suspension, wheels+tires, etc and even with 150,000 miles the thing ran incredibly smoothly and happily. I love old Hondas.
I’ve been driving my Honda Civic literally every day for the last 20 years. I’m still enjoying her. The Japanese are masters. 🇯🇵
Not even close
Been having mine for about 10 months before that I used look up POV videos on the s2000 crazy how time goes by fast💯💯
What a gem!! Congrats on the new ride.
When topher makes a video on an s2000 you know its gonna be a good day
Indeed you are right, '05 was last year of cable. '06 became DBW and introduced VSA. Congrats! Enjoy it, I will never let my '05 go.
Congrats on the s2000!
- you guys need the soft stop straps by modifry (business is closing, so order up), without this, you could rip your soft top.
- no steering wheel adjustment on any s2000 year.
The Honda S2000 ROCKS
finallyyyyyy after all these years, congrats 💖💖
Bro, take it to a specialist because it’s going to have some stuff. I got mine from a first owner and it had a ton of stuff needed for repairs.
Do a valve adjustment, swap the retainers, make sure you swap the engine mounts. Change the TCT out of caution. Rebuild the shifter because that’ll make a huge difference. If the clutch is stiffer than finger-press firm, look to see if the clutch master is leaking. Both of those are indicators that your clutch is going.
I can go on, but congrats!!! Great cars. Put Ohlins on it because it’ll change the car’s handling entirely.
AP1's don't really have TCT issues. No need to change it preventatively. Also no need to change retainers if they're in good shape and you don't plan on mechanically over revving the car. Valve adjustment is good though, but even then they don't creep very much. But since you're in there already you can do the retainers.
Stock suspension is actually nearly as good as Ohlins. But maybe your suspension was worn out.
But yes the clutch master can go, and it's a good idea to lubricate the shifter and get new OEM bushings.
People mistreat these cars then have more issues that they then blame on the car.
My current dream car , hope I could afford one some day , I daily a RSX right now . I really like it ! More than this ? Lil more.
Nothing better than buying a car sight unseen and it being in good shape. Very nice buy!!🙏🏻
One just sold today for 101k usd these cars are definitely collectors items now I'm glad I brought mine when I did
12:51 “trans feels great”, watching you go 90 in 4th makes me believe that
After all those times, I finally know what TheTopher looks like.
Looking forward to this build! Light, fun, tight packaging. Sounds like a blue car we all know and love.
Congrats! I hope you enjoy every single second in that machine!
I wish to be like you and be able to buy the car of my dreams one day 😢
I had one back in the day: bought it with 14K on the ODO. Still smelled new. Man, I miss that car!!
LHT performance for all your S2K needs
Sooooo hype! Been watching for a while and was wondering when you'd eventually get one haha
and it's an AP1 to boot!
Congrats! I hope I get the chance to drive an S2000 someday.
The exterior has aged so well👍
Welcome to the S2K gang!! You won't regret it ;)
congrats! I look forward to seeing you guys restore it to its formal glory. These cars are god-tier. Not a good daily, but an excellent weekender.
Welcome to the S2000 club!
I am excited to see what you do to restore this beautiful car. I’ve always loved these since I bought my first Honda in 2007 which was a 1994 Red cx hatch back. Honda are so reliable and fun to drive. The manuals transmissions are something else!
Reminds me of legendary "o_O S2000" videos
Man of culture
THE DAY HAS FINALLY COME
I’m buying one in 2 weeks, AP2. Its my dream car. I can’t wait
Congrats!! When you reviewed my ND I remember you saying how you really wanted to get back into a roadster. This is going to be so much fun. Come bring it back to the Malibu roads :)
Congratulations on what looks like a decent deal in today’s s2000 market (same I paid for my one owner ’00 with 50k ten years ago).
I occasionally consider replacing mine with something more modern, then I take it for a drive and the thought fades.
The vibration you feel when decelerating may be clutch buzz.
It’s understandable why values have gone up so much! It’s one of the best drivers cars ever made. Vibration is definitely clutch buzz, only on deceleration and stops when lightly pressing on the clutch pedal. It’s getting better though with more driving 👍👍
You can tell this car was originally designed exclusively for the Japanese market when you look at the handbrake placed next to the driver... as they drive on the right side over there.
For all other markets, they just switched the dashboard, steering wheel, and steering column to the left side.
And man, what a fantastic car! Here in my country we only have a few of these imported models from the early 2000s, and they're just awesome!
Greetings from Brazil, folks!
Nope! The S2000 was designed for the global market and JDM S2000’s have the handbrake on the left side instead of right side.
Damn, you got actually'd pretty hard not gonna lie lol
@@maximus9401 I'm a 'slave' to details, lol.
I also had a Holden Commodore (called Chevrolet Omega here) imported from Australia, and the handbrake was on the passenger side for the same reason as the S2000. Cheers, Sir.
Absolutely beauty congratulations! Can’t wait for the restoration videos and modifications. Whoever didn’t the paint blend job on that passenger side door might need to give it another try. 😂
Fun. If you got it for a good price, consider a nice repaint. Do that, repair the upholstery and top and you’ll feel like you have a brand new S2000!
That's a great find. One of my favorite cars.
I am the original owner of a 2001 AP1 Silverstone/Red Interior.. I only have 28k Miles and its all original... Pristine condition..
I must say, that is an impressive find! This find is way more impresssive than those bastardized examples!! Congratulations thats a Jem!!
A few things..
-the decel rattle are the clutch springs.. there was a TSB long ago... not a problem, just noisy
-for tires, make sure you go with a 225mm front and 255mm rear tire at least for the AP1... the original tires were specs at 205/255.. but they actually measure wider
-Use a name brand high mileage 5w30 oil and check it at every fuel fill up.. the harder you beat on it the more oil it will consume.
-valve retainers, TCT and oil squirters should be upgraded
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Best of luck!
Bridgestone make a set of front and rear Potenza Sport tyres specifically for the S2000 -- 205/55 R16 and 245/45R16 (both running wider than their nominal size, of course). Though they have relatively soft sidewalls for some reason, unlike older model 16" Potenzas that have super stiff sidewalls (not sure why Bridgestone have changed this) -- though the sidewalls probably aren't any softer than on a ContiExtremeContact (which also has 16" tyres available).
FINALLY! Always thought you would get one.
Vibration on decel might be “clutch buzz”, harmless but annoying. And you do not have to put an intake on it, most of them perform worse than the OEM one and IMO sound worse. It’s fun for a little (take the cover off and drive to simulate one) but it is a much more balanced and pleasing sound when it’s comparably loud to the exhaust vs being the only thing you can hear.
Airbox lid off definitely reduces power, but certainly good for a bit of fun to see what it would be like with a loud intake! I think is a channel on here on UA-cam that discusses an airbox mod they usually do, which does increase power a little bit on their dyno? (LHT Performance, though I see in the comments above that LHT Performance are controversial!)
As you say, many aftermarket intakes are worse than the stock intake (likewise for many aftermarket headers).
@@TassieLorenzo I love LHT Performance but that particular test wasn't well controlled, the dyno pull that they did was after a tune and not like for like. I think I also disagree with some of their findings/instincts. The chambers are there to combat resonances throughout the rev range and the little diverter they removed along with those chambers probably harmed more than helped performance.
@@KirkwoodImaging Those are some good points! It occurred to me that Mugen are usually pretty good at designing OEM+ stuff, so I had a look at what the Mugen intake for the S2000 looks like. It seems further removed from the stock design than their EP3/DC5 or FN2 or FD2 Type R offerings.
Regarding the FN2 airbox, there was a divider/chamber inside the bottom half of stock FN2 air box which I honestly don't know why it was there, so I removed it (it seems like it would block off 20% of the air filter area and I can only imagine it's there to reduce losses on part throttle during highway cruising or to improve part throttle response or part throttle torque?). I removed the turning vanes from both halves (as many people do) but felt the throttle response was worse, so reinstalled a stock top half with the turning vanes (which look like they would be at 90 degrees to the flow, but of course the flow is already turning around the 180 degree bend so it's more like 45 degrees -- I never removed the vanes that were in line with the flow on either half, as I can't see how they can be anything other than useful for keeping the flow aligned) and that seemed to put the throttle response back to normal.
(I have a stock bottom half I could put back in too, but have left it as is, as it seems good as is, I dunno. It definitely doesn't seem worse in terms of performance -- maybe highway fuel economy is worse!)
I believe the Mugen air box for the FN2 is like the stock one, but enlarged and with (I believe) no turning vanes inside nor that divider either. So not too dissimilar from somebody having removed all the gubbins from inside the stock airbox.
"The chambers are there to combat resonances throughout the rev range" Do you think those resonances need to be accounted for, for performance reasons or only for acoustics?
The FN2's stock intake tract has a Helmholtz resonator chamber branched off from it behind the front bumper, which AFAIK is only for acoustics rather than performance. The Mugen intake includes an air scoop which does away with the resonator. (Apparently using the air scoop and doing away with the stock resonator makes VTEC crossover sound less pronounced.)
@TheTopher all the best enjoy it!!!!
Congratulations on the S2k. Ofc watch the snap oversteer when you're on track/at the limit. Once you've dialed in the car and your driving in it, you'll have a blast!
Yes, it's very real. I once saw an AP1 disappear backwards into a run off area in a cloud of dust on a track day (thankfully it didn't hit anything). I think there are parts available to tame that, if you choose to do so? Likewise is it worth addressing valve spring retainers on early AP1s, if they are going to be tracked (or is that only if the car is going to be tracked a lot)?
I’m so happy you did this, I think every Miata owner has considered it at least once
Nice, freshkicks and now you guys lets go!
hell yeah !! congrats man
I bought an AP1 couple of years ago pre panini. I am usually smiling just as wide driving it now as I did day 1. The engine sounds like angry hornets and is begging to get pushed harder. The only thing I think that is better but comes close in experience is Porsche. That says a lot about how legendary this car is. I wanted something faster but I didnt want to turbo it and change the characteristics of the car…. so I recently picked up an old AMG SL55. Between this and that I have quick lightweight car and fast v8.
I remember watching a review by some guy who spent about 20 minutes ranting about how terrible the car was because it was “really slow”. 😂😂
Obviously he missed the point.
Hondas routinely look unimpressive on the spec sheet unfortunately - both cars and motorcycles. All the attention to detail and clever touches only become apparent over the longer course of ownership. It's hard to market quality > quantity. Thankfully for those spec sheet buyers, they can have a nice Nissan 350Z with everything that entails. 😉
Heck yeah bro! Another Honda to add to the collection🔥🔥
Nice. It's the way of the future.
One more thing worth noting: The S-series of cars from Honda remain the only purpose-built sports cars that the company has ever produced (as the NSX slotted more into the Supercar category at the time). It seems highly unlikely that Honda will ever produce another car like this powered by an internal combustion engine, let alone a naturally aspirated one. Take good care of your S2K as it is only going to become more rare over time. Should you choose to do any modifications, hopefully they'll be reversible (and hang on to those original parts).
Nice bought loved mine. Jesus the price are insane now. Paid 14k for 151k km. Immaculate paint and everything was done maintenance wise.
Get in contact with lht performance in Florida. They can steer you in the right direction as far as preventative maintenance and tlc. Those guys are the s2000 experts imo. Congrats on the honda bro.
I feel like the S2K is the most natural car for you, even with all the BRZs under your belt
I pray that one day honda will make a modern one ❤
I used to think that too, but they would mess it up. The clutch would be too light, it would be turbocharged and low revving, it wouldn't sound good, it would have too many digital screens, it would be too expensive, and probably wouldn't look good. Sometimes it's best to leave Legends alone.
I love the dashboard style. Reminds me of a DeLorean