Perspective I guess. If I saw a video with a hardtail in it I would never click on it. More than that I skimmed the video for the bike weights and then quit when I realized they were all around 35lbs. That's perfectly typical for bikes in this range, but I live in Colorado, so there's a lot of climbing, a lot of ground to cover, it may as well be infinite, you just can't chug around every ride with that much weight, and a hard tail would be pointless. But.... I also live in Georgia for part of the year, and at one time these would have been acceptable. All perspective.
I bought 4 years ago Trek Fuel ex 8, gen 5. I like the look of that bike, but geo is obsolete. Mostly in terms of slack seat tube angle. Since then I have changed almost everything on that bike. Instead of 34 140mm I put Fox 36 150mm, on the rear I put Fox float x, xtr brakes 4 piston, wider bars vibrocore 800mm, but one thing that really transformed that bike are tires. Those 2.6 tires are taking soul from that bike... Put some narower tires and make them tubeless. It will become much more playful bike... Great video guys. Greetings from Serbia 🤙
Love the bike line up guys. These are the bikes a lot of riders should be looking at. You can always do some upgrades overtime to turn one of these into a custom dream bike 🤘
Also Trek fuel EX 7 gen 6, it has the newer Fuel EX frame and a bit nicer build for 2999. Ripmo AF is a good first big bike, as is the gen6 Fuel EX, they have the travel and geo to start doing big bike things, without the "pushing you to go ever faster" sensation that you get on an enduro bike.
Not surprised that the marin won, everyone i have talked to who has one, loves theirs. I’d love to get my hands on one and give it a proper thrashing. Looking forward to seeing you guys review the new alpine!
100% agree with this… great bike for the money. I scored the XR version for 2300 last year. Absolute steal! Slx/Xt drivetrain, Bomber z1, Fox float shock, 4 pot brakes.
Did you guys find the rear triangle of the ari to flex and have the tire rub the seat stay like 99 spokes? I really desperately want the Ari Cascade Peak however I'm 240 lb full kit in don't want to be dealing with flex issues
Out of this bunch, if I were buying for myself, the Polygon. Can't beat that for a budget big bike. If I were going to recommend to a new rider, the Marin. Maybe the Ari to a rider who is willing to deal with the DVO money pit or drop money on new suspension within a year.
@@RICARDOGARCIA-wr9hx The issue was primarily with the Onyx SC forks and a QC issues where bushings that are too small were installed, causing the fork to eventually eat its stanchions and bind up
They're good for a "first big bike" for newer riders, or just someone who wants an all arounder on a budget. The Marzocci suspension was a major improvement, the DVO suspension they used to have was prone to problems related to QC.
I am looking for my first full sus rig and I am leaning towards xc as efficient climbing is my thing. Recently I rented out the marin rift zone 1 for a full day ride and this bike is totatly not for climbing. For starters it weighs a ton. With rockshox reckon fork and an xfusion damper it weighs way over 15 kg. then there's the slack geometry which makes you almost slide off of the saddle on steep hills and puts you in a somewhat awkward upright position with your arms close to you. I am more accustomed to a streched out xc position. Then there's the damper which lacks a quick cable actuated lockout for efficient pedalling. Sure, having it open makes this bike ride like a tank though technical uphill sections like big rock gardens or roots not requring good handling skills. you can just power pedal through the obstacles and it will handle it.l, especiallt given the fact that the steering is sluggish thansk to the slack HTA and wide bars. But on the longer run, this bike is just exhausting on uphills. It can get you to the top of the trail course, but riding all day uphill is a no no for this bike. On downhill it's super plush and I think this what is it for solely. I can't say this bike, as a trail type bike is an all rounder. I got hooked on orbea oiz h30. Ps. If all the tested bikes (and trail bikes in general), except for the pygon are good all rounders, why won't you show how good are they at climbing. The whole coverage is showing them going downhill. To me an all rounder means that a bike is equally good at climbing as with descending and for sure I can't say this about the marin.
@@mrvwbug4423 I just bought the C30 for $2905 total delivered to my door and the bike was fully built. I was riding it in 30 minutes. MSRP was $4700 originally.
The previous generation, but very similar GT Sensor, I threw a rockshox deluxe shock and a rockshox revelation 140 (modded with a pike ultimate rc2 damper), saint brakes (second hand), pnw loam dropper and some hunt enduro wide wheels and made this bike a true ‘budget’ ripper….
Yea I wish this was in the test and that the trek fuel was the new gen 6 model not the gen 5. Would also be good if there was more detail put into rider height vs size/ reach and climbing ability/ flat pedal efficiency. People looking for a budget full sus trail bike actually plan on riding them every day for a reason... not taking vacation days to ride the lift at a bike park.
Z2....This fork doesn't last more than a few weeks. They have (unless Marzocchi changed them) non-replaceable plastic bushings that wear out very fast. Last year I watched a lot of similar videos where they test for a day and the Z2 was always noted as being good. So I got a bike with one. After 5 rides the bushings were gone. Sent it to Fox and they repaired it under warranty, the only way was to replace the entire lowers. So I bought another fork. No way I'm going to keep a fork that lasts only 5 rides and then I have to replace the lowers. Search online and you will find many similar stories.
Not to discount your experience, but I have a 2020 Marin Hawk Hill with the Z2 and it's been completely problem free for the 4.5 years I've had the bike so far.
In 2019 i brought a new aluminium 160/170 enduro bike with NX groupset, descendant cranks, DT Swiss 1900 wheels with Dhr tyres, race face cock pit,guide R brakes, SD ULTIMATE rear and Lyrik ultimates for £2450. If I want a bike with that spec now I'd be looking at at least double that now..Since covid bike manufacturers have gotten even greedier and the constant push on carbon and 29ers hasn't helped with prices. I don't feel sorry for those that are struggling now as I don't see how anyone can justify 6 to 10k+ for a bike. If I do get another bike I will get the same brand I have now..Proper VFM.( Or polygon)
It’s very weird on the GT platform. The GT force which is a more pricey model. I keep reading reviews on sites who sell it stating that they received a bike that had different parts then listed. Some people got different rear shock models, some people got completely different brand cranks or BBs etc….very odd. I guess this is why you rarely hear GTs name pop up in this category
If you get a bike with tektro/TRP brakes a swap to Shimano H series pads will save you the headache of having to buy a whole new set of brakes. Not sure why their pads are so bad but they need to work on that shit 😅 The thick 2.3mm rotors are nice tho
Tektro/TRP pads are fine for me but I can't deal with their lever shapes...I have pretty small hands and couldn't adjust them enough to feel comfortable
Shimano Cues can found on bikes that are sub $800. Seeing that drivetrain on the Ari is very bad. I mean you can find Deore on most entry level bikes these days. $2200 for a bike with a Cues drivetrain is a deal breaker imo.
Get the Polygon N7 for $2000 and spend another $400 on a set of hunt wheels. Spend another $150 on lightweight trail tires. You have a 35-36 pound enduro. for $2600.
@@Spoolingturbski I got the habit lt on offer for £2500 in the uk.. came standard with 150 lyrik, 140 super deluxe(piggyback) slx 4 piston brakes, put my renthal bar, dmr pedals & wtb volt saddle and been ripping on it for 3 months! Loves it ✌️
Yeah for a budget park or race bike it's hard to beat. I would probably recommend the Marin for a new rider though, a big enduro bike could be an exercise in frustration for a new rider, since it's going to be harder to pedal uphill than a trail bike and at new rider downhill speeds it's going to feel pretty dead.
It's a good budget park bike, but it's going to be a hard to pedal slug for a newer rider. Mullets are also pretty niche for park riding and enduro/DH racing on tighter tracks, full 29er is going to work better for most newer riders.
Salsa probably didn’t send em a bike for this segment. I find a lot bike compare videos are all from manufacturers that will send em stuff. I.E specialized status. That’s got Fox suspension for under $2500. I like the Marin the most here. So not saying the status is the one to get, but that’s definitely one to compare against.
A DVO suspension setup riding like crap, that neeevvveerrr happens haha /sarcasm. In 3 years I could never get the DVO setup on my old Ripmo to ride even half as good as a RS or Fox setup.
The Polygon N7 on bikes online is 2k. Financing through affirm too on the ride now pay later deal. Got mine for 90 bucks first payment and shipped. Came in 4 days. Upgraded a bit and the bike actually rips hard. Set up the shocks right and its amazing. The frames do run big tho in my opinion. Every other bike im a medium. I ordered a small and its perfect.
You can definitely save some weight with tire choice and if you want to spend the money new wheels can make quite a difference, too. But it is pretty wild how heavy bikes are now...
@@baddriversofcolga People discovered that downhill and bike parks are fun, so bikes have gotten burlier as a result. It also depends on where you live and what trails you like to ride. If you do mainly pedally XC trails and live somewhere with smooth trails then you can get away with light tires. If you live in Colorado and enjoy downhill you're gonna want those burly casings and maybe some cush core.
Why is every person who reviews a mountain bike obsessed with the weight of everything? They are so dramatic about it. Focus on the fun and possibilities of the bike.
@@TheLoamWolf Those prices have been in effect for at least the last 2 years. They have effectively been lowered permanently, but showing 30% off or more to a customer is too much of a sales motivator.
Would be great to see you guys do a "first mountain bike roundup". Maybe hardtails under a grand? $2500 is a lot of money to start into a sport.
Thanks for the suggestion. We'll work on that in the future.
Perspective I guess. If I saw a video with a hardtail in it I would never click on it. More than that I skimmed the video for the bike weights and then quit when I realized they were all around 35lbs. That's perfectly typical for bikes in this range, but I live in Colorado, so there's a lot of climbing, a lot of ground to cover, it may as well be infinite, you just can't chug around every ride with that much weight, and a hard tail would be pointless. But.... I also live in Georgia for part of the year, and at one time these would have been acceptable. All perspective.
Get a Grand Canyon five or a polygon xtrada don’t get a trek hardtail
In Switzerland, Specialized is selling the Carbon Stumpjumper Comp for 2500chf ( 2700$). 😊
That's pretty damn impressive. A few of the bikes in this shootout currently have reductions too. It's a good time to be in the market for a bike!
I bought 4 years ago Trek Fuel ex 8, gen 5.
I like the look of that bike, but geo is obsolete. Mostly in terms of slack seat tube angle.
Since then I have changed almost everything on that bike. Instead of 34 140mm I put Fox 36 150mm, on the rear I put Fox float x, xtr brakes 4 piston, wider bars vibrocore 800mm, but one thing that really transformed that bike are tires.
Those 2.6 tires are taking soul from that bike...
Put some narower tires and make them tubeless. It will become much more playful bike...
Great video guys.
Greetings from Serbia 🤙
Yes, the tires are definitely not what we'd like to see spec'd on the Trek. Thanks for the feedback, your upgrades sound great. Happy trails!
In Canada it's more like 4999.99$ CDN
Love the bike line up guys. These are the bikes a lot of riders should be looking at. You can always do some upgrades overtime to turn one of these into a custom dream bike 🤘
Thanks for watching! And you're right, all of these would benefit from upgrades over time to boost their performance further!
There Giant Trance was recently on sale too. Maestro is a great suspension platform imo
Keep up the good work Loam Wolf!!! Last years video played a huge role in what I bought in 2023. You guys rock!!!
That is awesome! Hope you’re enjoying it still!
Tifosi is great bang for the buck. My kids don the Leatt Enduro full face helmet. It tick all the boxes, especially with the fidlock strap
For a few hundred more I’d look at the ibis Ripley AF or Ripmo Af
Great options if you've got a little more cash.
Also Trek fuel EX 7 gen 6, it has the newer Fuel EX frame and a bit nicer build for 2999. Ripmo AF is a good first big bike, as is the gen6 Fuel EX, they have the travel and geo to start doing big bike things, without the "pushing you to go ever faster" sensation that you get on an enduro bike.
The polygon should have been the siskiu instead of the collosus
How does the 2022-2024 giant stance 1,2 29er compare with these bikes. Thank You in advance.
Yt clearance is the place to go
Got a YT Jeffsy core 2 for 1500
new or used?
@@jasonlindquistmedia brand new it was 1484.10...
After taxes and the build 1649
Picked up in San Clemente
When YT goes on sale, they go hard
@@Aredub-fx7wr that’s a great bike and for that price it’s a steal you did good
Yup! I picked up a core 4 izzo 2 weeks ago for 2200!
Not surprised that the marin won, everyone i have talked to who has one, loves theirs. I’d love to get my hands on one and give it a proper thrashing. Looking forward to seeing you guys review the new alpine!
It's a ripper for sure.
We're excited to test the AT too!
100% agree with this… great bike for the money. I scored the XR version for 2300 last year. Absolute steal! Slx/Xt drivetrain, Bomber z1, Fox float shock, 4 pot brakes.
Ended up with the Marin after seeing it’s usually the winner in these price point comparisons.
Can’t go wrong! Hope you enjoy it!
Sad that Vitus went out of business. Vitus Mythique was one of the mtb to top the Marin Rift Zone.
Did you guys find the rear triangle of the ari to flex and have the tire rub the seat stay like 99 spokes?
I really desperately want the Ari Cascade Peak however I'm 240 lb full kit in don't want to be dealing with flex issues
Out of this bunch, if I were buying for myself, the Polygon. Can't beat that for a budget big bike. If I were going to recommend to a new rider, the Marin. Maybe the Ari to a rider who is willing to deal with the DVO money pit or drop money on new suspension within a year.
Our thoughts too. The Ari was a close 2nd of the shorter travel bikes, but let down by the potentially faulty DVO units.
What’s wrong with DVO? Is the DVO on the La Sal Peak be considered a money pit as well?
Im running DVOs on my bikes and never had any problems with them.@TheLoamWolf
@@RICARDOGARCIA-wr9hx The issue was primarily with the Onyx SC forks and a QC issues where bushings that are too small were installed, causing the fork to eventually eat its stanchions and bind up
great review, I ended up gettin a Ibis ripmo af last aug. best $3k ive spent
They're good for a "first big bike" for newer riders, or just someone who wants an all arounder on a budget. The Marzocci suspension was a major improvement, the DVO suspension they used to have was prone to problems related to QC.
I am looking for my first full sus rig and I am leaning towards xc as efficient climbing is my thing. Recently I rented out the marin rift zone 1 for a full day ride and this bike is totatly not for climbing. For starters it weighs a ton. With rockshox reckon fork and an xfusion damper it weighs way over 15 kg. then there's the slack geometry which makes you almost slide off of the saddle on steep hills and puts you in a somewhat awkward upright position with your arms close to you. I am more accustomed to a streched out xc position. Then there's the damper which lacks a quick cable actuated lockout for efficient pedalling. Sure, having it open makes this bike ride like a tank though technical uphill sections like big rock gardens or roots not requring good handling skills. you can just power pedal through the obstacles and it will handle it.l, especiallt given the fact that the steering is sluggish thansk to the slack HTA and wide bars. But on the longer run, this bike is just exhausting on uphills. It can get you to the top of the trail course, but riding all day uphill is a no no for this bike. On downhill it's super plush and I think this what is it for solely. I can't say this bike, as a trail type bike is an all rounder. I got hooked on orbea oiz h30.
Ps. If all the tested bikes (and trail bikes in general), except for the pygon are good all rounders, why won't you show how good are they at climbing. The whole coverage is showing them going downhill. To me an all rounder means that a bike is equally good at climbing as with descending and for sure I can't say this about the marin.
Excellent commentary and discussion. Well done. If you cant have fun on these bikes you cant have fun. Id take the Marin.
Thank you very much! Marin is definitely a good pick.
@@TheLoamWolf subbed! keep up the good work
Awesome, thanks! We'll do our best - eMTB Shootout will be beginning to drop in the next couple weeks. And plenty other videos!
Please review the Canyon Neuron CF8
2023 Rocky Mountain Instinct C30 w full Deore group set, WTB wheels, Maxxis DHF/DHR, Marzocchi Z2 Rail 150mm, Fox DPS 140mm, Ride9, etc... $2800 USA.
That's a decent deal, usually the frame is 4100 at MSRP. I picked up a 2023 Altitude C70 last year for $5200 which is normally an $8000 bike.
That’s one of my dream bikes right next to the propain
@@mrvwbug4423 I just bought the C30 for $2905 total delivered to my door and the bike was fully built. I was riding it in 30 minutes. MSRP was $4700 originally.
lov the GT
Real bummer not including the polygon T8 (or T9!) which is more trail bike for that proper apples to apples comparison. Colossus is an enduro bike.
Totally agree
The previous generation, but very similar GT Sensor, I threw a rockshox deluxe shock and a rockshox revelation 140 (modded with a pike ultimate rc2 damper), saint brakes (second hand), pnw loam dropper and some hunt enduro wide wheels and made this bike a true ‘budget’ ripper….
I just picked up 2023 Rocky Mountain altitude a30 brand new for 2200
That's a killer deal. I got a 2023 Altitude C70 last year for $5200, which was also a smokin deal
How about Polygon siskiu T8?
Yea I wish this was in the test and that the trek fuel was the new gen 6 model not the gen 5. Would also be good if there was more detail put into rider height vs size/ reach and climbing ability/ flat pedal efficiency. People looking for a budget full sus trail bike actually plan on riding them every day for a reason... not taking vacation days to ride the lift at a bike park.
Z2....This fork doesn't last more than a few weeks. They have (unless Marzocchi changed them) non-replaceable plastic bushings that wear out very fast.
Last year I watched a lot of similar videos where they test for a day and the Z2 was always noted as being good. So I got a bike with one. After 5 rides the bushings were gone. Sent it to Fox and they repaired it under warranty, the only way was to replace the entire lowers.
So I bought another fork. No way I'm going to keep a fork that lasts only 5 rides and then I have to replace the lowers.
Search online and you will find many similar stories.
Not to discount your experience, but I have a 2020 Marin Hawk Hill with the Z2 and it's been completely problem free for the 4.5 years I've had the bike so far.
In 2019 i brought a new aluminium 160/170 enduro bike with NX groupset, descendant cranks, DT Swiss 1900 wheels with Dhr tyres, race face cock pit,guide R brakes, SD ULTIMATE rear and Lyrik ultimates for £2450. If I want a bike with that spec now I'd be looking at at least double that now..Since covid bike manufacturers have gotten even greedier and the constant push on carbon and 29ers hasn't helped with prices. I don't feel sorry for those that are struggling now as I don't see how anyone can justify 6 to 10k+ for a bike. If I do get another bike I will get the same brand I have now..Proper VFM.( Or polygon)
It’s very weird on the GT platform. The GT force which is a more pricey model. I keep reading reviews on sites who sell it stating that they received a bike that had different parts then listed. Some people got different rear shock models, some people got completely different brand cranks or BBs etc….very odd. I guess this is why you rarely hear GTs name pop up in this category
What trail are you testing these bikes on? For the review part of the video it looks like you’re at Sawyer Park!?
Yes that was Sawyer. We tested in Oakridge, Bend and also Prineville at the 66 trails.
Prob want to get the pro cascade to upgrade to the DVO1
Picked up a Devinci Marshall for $1800 recently. Sweet to have extra cash for upgrades. Very happy so far!
Looks like a good option at that price, hope you’re enjoying it!
Which website store?
If you get a bike with tektro/TRP brakes a swap to Shimano H series pads will save you the headache of having to buy a whole new set of brakes. Not sure why their pads are so bad but they need to work on that shit 😅 The thick 2.3mm rotors are nice tho
Good tip, thank you!
Tektro/TRP pads are fine for me but I can't deal with their lever shapes...I have pretty small hands and couldn't adjust them enough to feel comfortable
Hey guys, you forgot big name in your test. Canyon Neuron.
I just got a mint Yeti Sb5 for $1500 NZD (under $1000 freedom eagles)
Shimano Cues can found on bikes that are sub $800. Seeing that drivetrain on the Ari is very bad. I mean you can find Deore on most entry level bikes these days. $2200 for a bike with a Cues drivetrain is a deal breaker imo.
I would take that $ buy a frame of my choice then buy the parts I want & keep buying parts till I have a complete build kit.
Marin keeps delivering in these videos it’s insane
Great content. Love you all.
We love you too!
Get the Polygon N7 for $2000 and spend another $400 on a set of hunt wheels. Spend another $150 on lightweight trail tires. You have a 35-36 pound enduro. for $2600.
Not a bad way to go!
Norco sight 2023 with fox suspension for 2015.00
The new habit? Fabulous trail bike
You just bought one. Amazing bike. Could use some upgrades down the line, but I think it’s geometry and suspension design are superior
@@Spoolingturbski I got the habit lt on offer for £2500 in the uk.. came standard with 150 lyrik, 140 super deluxe(piggyback) slx 4 piston brakes, put my renthal bar, dmr pedals & wtb volt saddle and been ripping on it for 3 months! Loves it ✌️
That GT Sensor sport is now 1700$ on sale 😅
Crazy deals!
The polygon N7 is the best budget MTB on the market right now even if it’s a enduro I’d still buy it
It’s a top choice for sure
@@TheLoamWolf lmfaooo haha
Yeah for a budget park or race bike it's hard to beat. I would probably recommend the Marin for a new rider though, a big enduro bike could be an exercise in frustration for a new rider, since it's going to be harder to pedal uphill than a trail bike and at new rider downhill speeds it's going to feel pretty dead.
@@mrvwbug4423 I agree with you
specialized status is the unbeatable budget bike, sad they dont have new stocks yet. probably a new model is coming soon
It's a good budget park bike, but it's going to be a hard to pedal slug for a newer rider. Mullets are also pretty niche for park riding and enduro/DH racing on tighter tracks, full 29er is going to work better for most newer riders.
How about a $5k Enduro shootout??
We should have an Enduro shootout later in the year. Unsure on price cap for now!
I wish Giant was in this !
@7:31 "ZEE" 2, he tried really hard not to say "Zed" haha.
You're not wrong, haha!
I'm just out here looking for slightly used test budget bikes under $2500
Hahaha.
Marin all day!!;
photobomb at 14:28
Why don't you ever include the Salsa Blackthorn? It has better components than most.bikes and less expensive.
We've got a Salsa in our eMTB Shootout, dropping very soon!
Salsa probably didn’t send em a bike for this segment.
I find a lot bike compare videos are all from manufacturers that will send em stuff.
I.E specialized status. That’s got Fox suspension for under $2500.
I like the Marin the most here. So not saying the status is the one to get, but that’s definitely one to compare against.
A DVO suspension setup riding like crap, that neeevvveerrr happens haha /sarcasm. In 3 years I could never get the DVO setup on my old Ripmo to ride even half as good as a RS or Fox setup.
We've enjoyed some of their suspension in the past (and Drew is currently loving the Onyx 38 D1 with SL). But we didn't have success with these units.
Even that is too expensive for me if finance available i could but 😢
Due to my status cant even afford that 😢
Sorry to hear that. Hopefully you can save up some money to buy a nice bike soon!
The Polygon N7 on bikes online is 2k. Financing through affirm too on the ride now pay later deal. Got mine for 90 bucks first payment and shipped. Came in 4 days. Upgraded a bit and the bike actually rips hard. Set up the shocks right and its amazing. The frames do run big tho in my opinion. Every other bike im a medium. I ordered a small and its perfect.
Buy used.
I bought used previous gen N9 for $860. Used market is flooded with good deals lately.
@@joshleonard6566 i wish i could i am from Asia Nepal 🇳🇵 and its hard to payment .
Jeeez- 35+ pounds for $2,500. Bikes have gotten soooo heavy.
Agreed. Have seen way more expensive bikes even heavier. They all are kinda porky.
You can definitely save some weight with tire choice and if you want to spend the money new wheels can make quite a difference, too. But it is pretty wild how heavy bikes are now...
@@baddriversofcolga People discovered that downhill and bike parks are fun, so bikes have gotten burlier as a result. It also depends on where you live and what trails you like to ride. If you do mainly pedally XC trails and live somewhere with smooth trails then you can get away with light tires. If you live in Colorado and enjoy downhill you're gonna want those burly casings and maybe some cush core.
2500 is really reasonable I don’t know what this guy is saying it’s not straight in a sport. If you want to get a crab bike it’s okay but 2500 is good
Late model Altitude!
Or even previous 2021-2023 version. I have a 2023 and it's an amazing bike. The Altitude strikes the perfect balance between stable and playful
@@mrvwbug4423 correct. I have mine with a works angle set.
@@mrvwbug4423is the new 2024 altitude a completely different animal? Especially flat or uphill pedal efficiency wise?
Why is every person who reviews a mountain bike obsessed with the weight of everything? They are so dramatic about it. Focus on the fun and possibilities of the bike.
The weight influences the handling of the bike. So, when we're talking about how it performs, we typically consider it worth mentioning.
Not bad, how about budget e mtb's
Stay tuned for the eMTB Shootout coming soon!
No YT?
They don't have a sub-$2.5k RRP bike sadly. Some good deals on them just now, though.
@@TheLoamWolf Those prices have been in effect for at least the last 2 years. They have effectively been lowered permanently, but showing 30% off or more to a customer is too much of a sales motivator.
$2,500 was mid tear 10 years ago.
And you could feed a family on $20 at Taco Bell too, now that barely gets one of us full. 😂 sadly times have changed.
Cheap (sx) drivetrains don't keep working well after a few weeks
These are luxury bikes in my country😅😅😅 3rd world country😅
Budget??? Jeez. 😭
Leatt affordable? 🤣
Their 1.0 and 2.0 lineups are full of good quality gear that we'd consider reasonably priced.
Terribile all 5
We disagree! While they may not be as sexy, light or dialed as some more expensive offerings, they didn’t stop us from having a lot of fun.
@@TheLoamWolf i had 3 of those and sold in one mounth!! 🫠
@@teamdoa i mean, it's almont 1000 up to their value.. I just dislike all and find something better for the same price 😉😉
@@ryuu21what is better at this price?
@@3XH1L commencal meta tr, trek fuel Gen 6, cannondale habit, focus Jam mondraker foxy... should i go on?😌