After playing around with LS engines so much the last 10 years or so I'm starting come to the conclusion that Ford did a fine job of overcomplicating everything after the invention of the mod motor vs the windsor based engines.
Right on Mr. Black, I'm not much of an engine guy. What's with the LS motors. And Ford didn't really do anything special here. All manufacturers figured out the whole inferred sensor thing to save a few bucks on production costs. They most likely stole the idea from the Japanese. Lol -Chuck
@@PanzerPlatform LS stands for dead simple lol. No inferred crap at least from 1997 to 2013. No multiple cams no 100 foot of timing chains. NO ridiculous size for it's miniscule cubic inches.
@@j.t.cooper2963 I still know where my fox chassis mustang race car is. The guy that bought it owned a mustang shop in Auburn and parted it out but kept the chassis/body/rollbar. What's really ridiculous is those cars are becoming quite expensive when they were for all intents and purposes considered disposable when they were new.
@@PNW_Car_Mods That's for sure. I was thinking of buying another one at some point, but the prices are a bit ridiculous for a car that almost everybody disliked for one reason or another. I heavily modified mine to make it a better balanced car and just as soon as I got it done my drunk A hole neighbor decided to crash into my 3 car garage and total it out and did $30,000 dollars worth of damage to my house and garage contents, not including my my cars that were inside at the time. Otherwise I'd still have it. I owned it for 15 years before it got totaled out sitting in my garage of all places.
Great video, Chuck! It's like the early to mid 2000 GM vehicles where they removed the alcohol content sensor and used other sensors along with algorithms to calculate the alcohol (ethanol) percentage in the gas. It failed miserably.....
Right on Brian, Thanks for stopping in. What a great explanation of what an ‘Inferred Sensor” is. Did you ever notice the ECT was missing on your P7B? -Chuck
@@PanzerPlatform I think my 2008 is still a P71 but either way..... Maybe, kinda noticed it was missing..... I had a cylinder head temp sensor related trouble code (forget what it was at this point) but I researched the CHT sensor and related code and I believe I stumbled upon that fact that my car used the CHT sensor instead of a coolant sensor. It's been about a year since i worked on that part of the car. I kinda knew it, but I didn't realize I knew until I heard you say it.
Yo Caper, Long time no see. Nice to hear from you. Man, congrats on your continued success on UA-cam. As you can see I'm still trudging along making the same boring videos. Lol -Chuck
👍🏻😎 My 2006 was made in May of 06 and it doesn't have an ECT sensor in the intake coolant passage location either. it has the one thats under the intake as well. Man, Ford has always been known for wacky mid-year changes forever, but I think at some point the changes were coming quarterly. Thanks for the video!
Right on JT, Thanks for stopping in with the great feedback. I had a feeling the ECT started being discontinued on some Panther Cars for the 2005 model year when it went to the electronic throttle body, but all the info I researched was conflicting, so I just went with the for sure 2007-2011 don't have 'em. lol -Chuck
Great video. What model fluke are you using? Looks like 115 or 117. I’m a recently retired mechanic and I miss the fluke 87 that belonged to my employer. My wife got me a fluke 117 for Christmas and I was wondering if I should upgrade to a 87 or if the 117 will be sufficient for working on my own cars, trucks, boats, etc that I work on part time.
Thanks for watching. The Fluke 115 was purchased by my employer in 2007. The 117 replaced the 115 with a few additional functions. I’m not familiar with the 87. -Chuck
@@PanzerPlatform the fluke 87 has features like temperature, more precise DC amp readings, such as micro amp readings,etc. both meters appear to have high impedance so it won’t put a load on the circuit being tested. Not sure if I will ever need micro amp settings though. Since the specs for 117 states it will read as low as .001 amps (if I read the specs correctly)
@@bubba.watercraftj7269 I use a separate meter for "amp clamp" measurements. UNI-T UT210E Pro It was only $60, and the mA accuracy is right on the money with my Fluke.
I got a 09 p71. When starting it falls and stalls then when I restart it it will take a few sec then start and run fine . I have replaced a ton afternoon parts .
Yo LC, Thanks for stopping by. Questions like yours are what is so helpful to all the guys in the Panther Car Community. Chances are there are a bunch more people with the same exact issue, and they also want help figuring out how to diagnose it. In order to help the most people, and so everyone can benefit from the information, that’s why I do the “Viewer Question” & “Guess The Malfunction” videos. I don’t have all the answers for all the years, and models of Panther Cars. But chances are someone has your exact model, and year, and they have first hand experience diagnosing the cause. The best way I've found is to make a short 1 minute video showing, describing, and explaining your malfunction. Here is a perfect example how to do it; ua-cam.com/video/rTugE6sGmrM/v-deo.html Let me know if you upload the video to your channel. I will download it, and post it on my channel. Most likely you will get some help in the comment section from someone who has already fixed the issue. Please film your video in the daytime, and in widescreen 1080p, (no vertical video). Here is an example of all the helpful comments you will get; ua-cam.com/video/G0jSA6qzCcE/v-deo.html -Chuck
@@lit_cab Yo LC, Thanks for taking the time. I’ve got the video loaded up, and ready to be published in a few minutes. In the mean time try this; 1.) Let the car sit over night. Before you try to start the engine, only turn the key on so it illuminates the lights in the instrument cluster, and wait 10 seconds. 2.) Turn the key off, and do it it again second time. 3.) This time turn the key all the way, and start the engine. If the engine fires up like it should without any hesitation it usually means your fuel pump has “lost it’s prime”. This means when you shut your car off the fuel line from the fuel pump in the tank all the way to the injectors in the engine have lost pressure, and the fuel is bleeding back into the gas tank. This usually means the fuel pump has malfunctioned, and requires replacement. The OEM Ford Part Number the fuel pump for your 2009 CVPI is AW1Z-9H307-C They cost around $450. Aftermarket fuel pumps for your 2009 CVPI are around $70. If you have to pay a shop to install it, it takes around 2 hours of shop labor. Or you can install it yourself. If you don’t have the money, or the time to fix it right now you can just keep doing the manual fuel prime as described above. -Chuck
@@PanzerPlatform it's already tinted at 35 percent all around. I asked because it looks like the front windows of Alex's car is tinted and I read that wasn't allowed. In Indiana it's legal to do all windows (except windshield)
Technically it’s not allowed in Cali either. For the most part they don’t bother you unless you doing something else wrong, like speeding. They will tack on a tint citation to something else, but for the most part they don’t pull you over for tint only.
Great looking car and a great explanation on those censors. I lived in Pittsburg for many years as a kid. Interesting place.
Right on Pat,
Thanks for stopping in, and the kind words.
Small world. lol
-Chuck
After playing around with LS engines so much the last 10 years or so I'm starting come to the conclusion that Ford did a fine job of overcomplicating everything after the invention of the mod motor vs the windsor based engines.
Right on Mr. Black,
I'm not much of an engine guy. What's with the LS motors.
And Ford didn't really do anything special here. All manufacturers figured out the whole inferred sensor thing to save a few bucks on production costs. They most likely stole the idea from the Japanese. Lol
-Chuck
I miss my old 5.0 H.O. powered Fox bodies and their simplicity, thats for sure.
@@PanzerPlatform LS stands for dead simple lol. No inferred crap at least from 1997 to 2013. No multiple cams no 100 foot of timing chains. NO ridiculous size for it's miniscule cubic inches.
@@j.t.cooper2963 I still know where my fox chassis mustang race car is. The guy that bought it owned a mustang shop in Auburn and parted it out but kept the chassis/body/rollbar. What's really ridiculous is those cars are becoming quite expensive when they were for all intents and purposes considered disposable when they were new.
@@PNW_Car_Mods That's for sure. I was thinking of buying another one at some point, but the prices are a bit ridiculous for a car that almost everybody disliked for one reason or another. I heavily modified mine to make it a better balanced car and just as soon as I got it done my drunk A hole neighbor decided to crash into my 3 car garage and total it out and did $30,000 dollars worth of damage to my house and garage contents, not including my my cars that were inside at the time. Otherwise I'd still have it. I owned it for 15 years before it got totaled out sitting in my garage of all places.
Great video, Chuck! It's like the early to mid 2000 GM vehicles where they removed the alcohol content sensor and used other sensors along with algorithms to calculate the alcohol (ethanol) percentage in the gas. It failed miserably.....
Right on Brian,
Thanks for stopping in.
What a great explanation of what an ‘Inferred Sensor” is.
Did you ever notice the ECT was missing on your P7B?
-Chuck
@@PanzerPlatform I think my 2008 is still a P71 but either way..... Maybe, kinda noticed it was missing..... I had a cylinder head temp sensor related trouble code (forget what it was at this point) but I researched the CHT sensor and related code and I believe I stumbled upon that fact that my car used the CHT sensor instead of a coolant sensor. It's been about a year since i worked on that part of the car. I kinda knew it, but I didn't realize I knew until I heard you say it.
I LEARNT SOMETHIN. ty chucky ,great vid nice edit buddy. apologies for my class absences
Yo Caper,
Long time no see.
Nice to hear from you.
Man, congrats on your continued success on UA-cam. As you can see I'm still trudging along making the same boring videos. Lol
-Chuck
Nice Work Chuck! Thanks for the Great Video!
Right on Steve,
Long time no see.
Thanks for stopping in, and the kind words.
-Chuck
👍🏻😎 My 2006 was made in May of 06 and it doesn't have an ECT sensor in the intake coolant passage location either. it has the one thats under the intake as well. Man, Ford has always been known for wacky mid-year changes forever, but I think at some point the changes were coming quarterly. Thanks for the video!
Right on JT,
Thanks for stopping in with the great feedback.
I had a feeling the ECT started being discontinued on some Panther Cars for the 2005 model year when it went to the electronic throttle body, but all the info I researched was conflicting, so I just went with the for sure 2007-2011 don't have 'em. lol
-Chuck
This is helpful. I changed mine anyway. I did it with may thermostat. You sir have gained a subscriber.
Yo ES,
Thanks for stopping in.
Welcome to the club, prepare to be disappointed. Lol
-Chuck
Hey wow used to live in Antioch in the 80's
Yo Preston,
Long time no see. Lol
Thanks for stopping in.
-Chuck
Used to spend the summers there and Brentwood. Lived in Modesto though.
Sensei... where is the whatchamacallit sensor, sincerely
@@WJHandyDad
Ohhhhhh, I get it now.
You were talking about the "watchamachalit" candy bar. Lmao
I totally forgot about those. Lol
Thanks Chuck, great information and video.
Yo Tony,
Thanks for stopping by.
-Chuck
Great video 👍
Right on Michael,
Thanks for stopping in.
BTW, I don't think I've seen you here before.
Welcome to the club, prepare to be disappointed. Lol
-Chuck
much appreciated for great explanation .. thank you so much
Yo YM,
Thanks for stopping in, and the kind words.
-Chuck
I ain't gonna pay you, but I definitely owe you money for this video 😂😂. Thanks brotha chuck.
Hello,
Thanks for watching. lol
-Chuck
Great video.
What model fluke are you using? Looks like 115 or 117.
I’m a recently retired mechanic and I miss the fluke 87 that belonged to my employer.
My wife got me a fluke 117 for Christmas and I was wondering if I should upgrade to a 87 or if the 117 will be sufficient for working on my own cars, trucks, boats, etc that I work on part time.
I subscribed to your channel
Thanks for watching.
The Fluke 115 was purchased by my employer in 2007.
The 117 replaced the 115 with a few additional functions.
I’m not familiar with the 87.
-Chuck
@@PanzerPlatform the fluke 87 has features like temperature, more precise DC amp readings, such as micro amp readings,etc.
both meters appear to have high impedance so it won’t put a load on the circuit being tested. Not sure if I will ever need micro amp settings though.
Since the specs for 117 states it will read as low as .001 amps (if I read the specs correctly)
@@bubba.watercraftj7269
I use a separate meter for "amp clamp" measurements.
UNI-T UT210E Pro
It was only $60, and the mA accuracy is right on the money with my Fluke.
I got a 09 p71. When starting it falls and stalls then when I restart it it will take a few sec then start and run fine . I have replaced a ton afternoon parts .
Yo LC,
Thanks for stopping by.
Questions like yours are what is so helpful to all the guys in the Panther Car Community. Chances are there are a bunch more people with the same exact issue, and they also want help figuring out how to diagnose it.
In order to help the most people, and so everyone can benefit from the information, that’s why I do the “Viewer Question” & “Guess The Malfunction” videos. I don’t have all the answers for all the years, and models of Panther Cars. But chances are someone has your exact model, and year, and they have first hand experience diagnosing the cause.
The best way I've found is to make a short 1 minute video showing, describing, and explaining your malfunction. Here is a perfect example how to do it; ua-cam.com/video/rTugE6sGmrM/v-deo.html
Let me know if you upload the video to your channel. I will download it, and post it on my channel. Most likely you will get some help in the comment section from someone who has already fixed the issue. Please film your video in the daytime, and in widescreen 1080p, (no vertical video).
Here is an example of all the helpful comments you will get; ua-cam.com/video/G0jSA6qzCcE/v-deo.html
-Chuck
@@lit_cab
Yo LC,
Thanks for taking the time.
I’ve got the video loaded up, and ready to be published in a few minutes.
In the mean time try this;
1.)
Let the car sit over night.
Before you try to start the engine, only turn the key on so it illuminates the lights in the instrument cluster, and wait 10 seconds.
2.)
Turn the key off, and do it it again second time.
3.)
This time turn the key all the way, and start the engine.
If the engine fires up like it should without any hesitation it usually means your fuel pump has “lost it’s prime”. This means when you shut your car off the fuel line from the fuel pump in the tank all the way to the injectors in the engine have lost pressure, and the fuel is bleeding back into the gas tank.
This usually means the fuel pump has malfunctioned, and requires replacement.
The OEM Ford Part Number the fuel pump for your 2009 CVPI is AW1Z-9H307-C
They cost around $450.
Aftermarket fuel pumps for your 2009 CVPI are around $70.
If you have to pay a shop to install it, it takes around 2 hours of shop labor.
Or you can install it yourself.
If you don’t have the money, or the time to fix it right now you can just keep doing the manual fuel prime as described above.
-Chuck
Any update?
Did cycling the key work?
-Chuck
great
Yo Doc,
Thanks for stopping in.
-Chuck
I have a 2004 Mercury Grand Marquis I need to replace a Transmission Temperature Sensor
Where is that located? Any help is greatly appreciated 👏
Hello,
It's the part at 11:29 in this video;
ua-cam.com/video/pDIAnmnpGK4/v-deo.htmlfeature=shared&t=690
-Chuck
Hey Alex, have you ever got pulled over for the window tint?
Are you considering tinting your '98?
@@PanzerPlatform it's already tinted at 35 percent
all around. I asked because it looks like the front windows of Alex's car is tinted and I read that wasn't allowed. In Indiana it's legal to do all windows (except windshield)
Technically it’s not allowed in Cali either. For the most part they don’t bother you unless you doing something else wrong, like speeding. They will tack on a tint citation to something else, but for the most part they don’t pull you over for tint only.
Do you know where the Cylinder Head Temp sensor is on a 2004 crown vic?
Yo Gerald,
Thanks for stopping in.
Here it is;
ua-cam.com/video/VhqVyWCFlS0/v-deo.html
Let me know if you need more help.
-Chuck