First time I’ve seen they gave a penalty when both drivers on a outlap. They essentially saying if you’re behind in your outlap you can just floor to give the guy in front a penalty. Absolutely Ridiculous.
Wow I am amazed yet agian by the FIA we have no Johnny Herbert and or Niels wittich at the head so I taught the British bais / clown show would be over .. but noooo. Both drivers where on a cooldown lap and so you need to drive a delta time , it’s up to the drivers how to achieve that lap time . Maybe by driving 30kmh in sector 1 and 380kmh in sector 2 ( a yoke like the penalty ) if it’s within the delta time it should be fine . But noooo . M4X isn’t British and so gets a penalty 🤦♂️ I have to admit the official statement was nicely written down and explained , but still it’s a joke . Make a new rule then where you are allowed to drive slow and where not 🤦♂️🤫
The can of wurms is open. Max never forgets. There will a quali where Max will uae this, and afferwards FIA will create a new Verstappen rule to get the can closed again.
Drivers have been doing this all season and no penalties, Verstappen does it and suddenly it's deserving of a penalty. There's obvious bias, this can not be allowed to continue into next year.
Worst part is, they even acknowledge in the statement about the penalty, that Max didn't impede, but supposedly he did, that neither was on a push lap. Supposedly because Max knew he was there, looking in his mirrors? But George also knew, but somehow that matters less? And Max WAS within the delta they have to uphold, and yet they sill penalize him? There IS a bias against Max, British or not, there is a clear bias, and it's getting absolutely stupid now. Max deserved that pole, he did amazing and worked his ass off for it, but he's just not allowed to have it. Hope George is proud of it though. This sport is not fun like this anymore, the FIA going out of their goddamn way every chance they have to screw over certain drivers, while protecting others, is just breaking the sport completely and taking all fun out of it.
Maybe Max did something wrong? Wasn't he off his delta? Agree that the silly one place penalty doesn't help matters. Either give three places or a fine.
@@richeh79 In what world is leading over twice the laps of everyone else and winning every category (regardless of Abu Dhabi) being gifted a title? Why do so many race fans not care about performance?
@@richeh79 Jesus Christ, can you people just get over yourselves already? Get a life, get out there, date someone. Try to be happy. Get some therapy maybe. And if you REALLY cared that much, you would have checked back then that it was literally in the rules, and agreed between all teams to end in racing conditions. Deal with it. Maybe take it up with Lewis and Merc that he didn't pit himself, especially with the incredible speed of that Merc. And Max still had to drive the lap of a lifetime, because even with those old tyres, Lewis still got quite close. So, either actually deal with reality, or just have yourself committed. My whole point is that this is NOT in the rules, the safety car situation in 2021, WAS. Since you just HAD to bring it up. Again, please, PLEASE get help.
I think the biggest farce of the penalty, is the fact that they gave him a penalty point on his licence as well. Both Yuki, and Checo were investigated for the same during sprint qualifying, and both found to have driven too slowly without a good reason, and both only got a reprimand. So then why in the hell is it suddenly now a penalty? With such a lack of consistency, the Stewards need to start including why they hand out a penalty in one instance, when they didn't previously. I hope RedBull can find a way to appeal this, and get it sorted before the race.
Apparently the stewards saw Max keep looking in his mirror so he knew George was coming and yet he still stayed slow on the racing line. It's so dangerous - flying lap or not - George only just missed him. Licence point is perhaps too far but they haven't given the whole 3 place grid penalty it could have been at least.
@@cate20000Max also had another car in front, lap was almost done. He was just making sure to have enough space for his push lap. Watching the onboard from Russel he actually sees both cars, but continues pushing in his prep lap, because he doesnt want to compromis. Nothing to see here, but the FIA continues with their inconsistency and bs.
Gotta say this is the best sprint format. Because Parc Ferme is lifted after the sprint it upsets the order instead of the sprint race being just a spoiler alert for the main race. Sprint also acts as practice now and teams can make changes(or not) for better or worse. Just look at Hulkenberg and Verstappen.
@@FormulaProg He is not wrong though. FIA keeps giving random penalties when they feel like it. I doubt this would've happened in Zandvoort with Max, Monza with Ferrari or with Lando and Lewis in Silverstone.
@@erwinr9328 he is wrong though. All you've done is provided your biased view as to why it's always British drivers or something like that that are exempt from the rules. Which is clearly nonsense. If you actually use your brain, you'd know that.
@@FormulaProg I don't want to know what Verstappen would have gotten if he had started a second warm up lap after an aborted start or if Red Bull had adjusted the tyre pressures with the wheels on the car during a red flag. I don't want there to be british bias or any bias, but there is definitely anti-Verstappen bias recently and it is showing.
The amount of effort to slow Max down is truly impressive; A bit sad, also because it isn't even working, but impressive nonetheless. Clearly, a lot of people are having sleepless nights over Max's incredible power.
No it’s a good precedent of finally penalizing drivers for ignoring the maximum outlap time. The FIA have been drumming this forever that drivers can’t be too slow on an outlap. If Max completed that lap within the maximum time then he wouldn’t have gotten a penalty. He got a sporting advantage going slower than he was allowed to.
@@Mrehs9 i do believe that max deserved the penalty but you're right. People have done this before and gotten away with it. Carlos didn't get s penalty after las vagas when he entered the pitline either. We need to change the stewarding system
@@Europeanguy831 George was not on a hot lap, if he was it makes more sense to hand out the penalty. Giving a penalty when both drivers is on an out lap is the most ridiculous thing I’ve witnessed in my 20 years of watching F1
@@Mrehs9 i thought max deserved the penalty but i think this might have to be an astricts pole for Russell. It's a shame because if he wins the race people will say he didn't deserve it and ignore the drive in the race
Looking forward to how teams will be exploiting this. Get your 2nd driver to just be behind a rival team at any stage of Quali , floor the throttle and if the car doesn't weave aggressively out of the way. Penalty.
Connelly was the steward, the man who got reprimanded for trying to collude and get toto to collude with him, behind the backs of the other stewards, to get verstappen a penalty a couple of yrs ago! Every time this man is stewarding, verstappen somehow gets a penalty for something others did not get penalized. The image they showed behind russell, and palmer talking abt gravel, meanwhile he never went through gravel behind verstappen, and that footage was of a different moment in time… that’s just creating a story that never existed
He also keep going on gambling site to give betting advice, also never hide his hate towards Max when he was on there. No idea how FIA can keep claiming this is not conflict of interest.
The rules are black and white that drivers need to complete all laps within a maximum time. Max exceeded the maximum time and gained a sporting advantage. The penalty was 100% justified. If he drove faster and kept within the maximum time he wouldn’t have been penalized.
@@paperplane-db8qf Drivers have been doing that all season, they just have to provide an explanation for why they were above the required lap time and are let go. The Russell incident during the lap was the motivation for the penalty.
"It was obvious the driver of Car 1 was attempting to cool his tyres. He also could see Car 63 approaching as he looked in his mirror multiple times whilst on the small straight between Turns 11 and 12."
In 2021, they dropped Hammy boy suddenly after years of coddling him. Picked up Max thinking they can shape him to their pleasure. The romance was over by 2023😂 Only problem, they don't know who to coddle now. Max is not a complying sap and the others are too young, too soft or too old, too washed. A scripting nightmare indeed!
@@qwertewq4710And that’s not a guaranteed penalty, it happens often, and nothing happens. Objectively, it’s bullshit, if Yuki and Checo have the same incident and there’s no penalty, why does Max get one? It’s not even about Max being targeted, it’s about FIA’s consistency being absolutely rubbish.
@@AyyFujiredbull should've been disqualified after the illegal braking system and then again with the ride hight but verstapen won the champ with an illegal car. So redbull should shut up
What this FIA has done and is doing is shameful and outrageous. A total mockery, an insult to those who follow F1. Millions of comments around the world harshly criticizing what the FIA has done.
@@mr.iceman_ Nope. They were not on a push lap, I agree with Tommy. Watch Max do the same next race, use the same words on the radio, just to ram the point home. They typically would both be trying to open a gap to start their lap. If George wanted to start going full speed with two or three corners to go, he should not have been right behind Max. I feel this was wrong and will open up things for other drivers and probably will get a clarification rule in the off-season.
@@mr.iceman_ Clearly you don't know the rules. George wasn't on a fast lap, neither was Max, and the only time you get a 3 place grid penalty, is if you impede a driver on a fast lap, which again, George wasn't.
This is such bs. But good to know you can screw other drivers in front of you by suddenly accelerating, because delta, and then suddenly be surprised that the car in front of you is slower. Probably Herbert who is stewarding.
Drivers have to complete an outlap before the maximum time. It’s a sporting advantage to go slower than allowed. George shouldn’t have to risk getting a fine or penalty just because Max is driving too slow.
Lando started a unauthorised formation lap and got nothing Merc changed tyre pressures and got nothing Lando jumped the start in Saudi Arabia and got nothing Max impedes a driver on their outlap and 1 place pen and a penalty point
Russell created the entire situation as well, he got info about the drivers up front and saw them but still went full speed into the back of them then did a little 'wiggle', shameless.
I'm a George fan and even I'm confused by the pen, that should tell you everything😂 like I'll take it, of course, but especially the one place grid drop seems weiiird
Here's my view on the penalty as a George fan if anyone cares Was max going slow on the line, yes. Were either of them on a push lap, no Did the fia give a proper reason, no I can understand that they gave max the penalty because George was faster and max was on the racing line, but he wasn't on a push lap and I don't think I have ever seen a 1 place penalty Edit: I looked at the rules, it is so broad that this is just some bs
@Anna-gm6zy so the exact rule says the driver can't go too slow or erratic, but we don't know what the delta is so it's unclear if it is actually a penalty
You don’t want to go of the raceline to much when prepping tyres. So bs argument from George. Can’t get my head around either why they gave him a penalty and a penalty point.
The other thing that makes the penalty a total joke is that Verstappen was only going slowly in the first place because Alonso suddenly slowed down in front of him. What was Max supposed to do other than slow down?
The penalty for Max is a joke. How can you get in the way of someone not even on a lap in the first place. That new race directer hasn't brought much change to the way the FIA deals out penalty's. Sainz cutting the pitlane in Vegas was just track limits where other drivers got penalty's in Austria and the past for doing the same thing. But this one is the most BS penalty i have ever seen. It would not surprise me if drivers start doing what Russell did and just make it look like it's dangerous when there not even on a lap.
It’s too sad the whole focus is on the penalty rather than the insane back and forth between Russell and Verstappen in that qualifying. They both drove out of their minds. That’s a title fight I really want to see.
Im fairly certain this is the first 1-Place Grid Penalty in F1 history. Like what even is that? Impeding is a 3-Place Grid Penalty. Either give him 0 or 3, not 1
@@ryanjarrett8344 They're saying, RBR and Stake used the sprint to make more adjustments instead of trying to win it, and the result is way different that the sprint race here.
Watch George onboard...he wasnt even pushing till he saw Max, only then he started pushing ... if this is a penalty , itwould show how you can intentionally force another driver into a penalty
@@mchouseboat3405 George is the same one they are Hyping so much on Sky F1, quite a shame. Hope Max gives him a big portion of humble pie down to turn one
This penalty coming right after I watched the Senna series. Russell must know some really powerful higher-ups, cos all his shouts for penalties have almost all worked, still remember when he got Alonso penalised because he randomly crashed during the Australian GP this year.
And after they press stop on recording Matt & Tommy get out of their respective bedrooms, give each other a high five and a share a beer in the living room. I am telling you: the split-screen thing is a farce! :P
Do you even know what bias means? If every time something happens to Max, you're convinced it's a conspiracy theory against him. I would suggest you're the one with the bias here.
@@FormulaProgyou get it. A-lot of people dont see it like that unfortunately but thats inherently what being biased is. People with (most times) clouded judgement acting on emotion instead of logically. We are all guilty of it at some point in our lives lol.
@@ThatGuyGloomy I'm not necessarily saying it should have been a penalty here, but people need to change the record. Obviously we don't want to see penalties unless they're absolutely necessary. But this obsession with it being about nationality is getting out of hand at this point.
red bull havent caught up just yet, they are improving though, i told you a stable good enough car is all perez needs, and i bet you next year perez would be back to his 2022 self hehe
Simple stuff is simple: Max does not deserve a penalty for Russell driving erratically during a slow/warm-up lap. Therefore: 1) Max will get a penalty by the Brits and corrupt FIA, and 2) Ocon gets a 3 place grid penalty.
Yep, this. Even George himself didn't seem too bothered with it during the post quali interviews. But hey....any reason to penalize Verstappen is a good reason.
@@1973HenkY the only one driving erratically was Max. Drivers have to complete a lap before a maximum time and Max did not. Max gained a sporting advantage going too slow. Russell was following the rules.
@@paperplane-db8qf Max wasn't driving erratically, you not being intelligent enough to use words you actually know the meaning of isn't anyone else's fault but yours.
@@Elvewizzy. totally ridcioulous is that really i mean it hurts my intelligence it wasnt a push lap first & foremost & 2nd max clearly reduced his speed what do they exepct him to do ? Ghost ? Ffs XD
Regarding Hülkenberg: According to the german sky broadcast, he had issues with the car energy supply. Battery or something didn't give full strength and that's why he couldn't really get much out of the car.
Shout out to those Red-Bull mechanics. Checo p9 could very much mean a max masterclass tmo. I wouldn’t be surprised if he pulls 10+ seconds like he has in years past.
There's no agenda. He constantly crashes and pushes the rules. Of course he'll get more penalties. He's gotten luck so far if anything. Plus if he quit the sport, it'd be better off.
You should penalize when there is damage done. From the decision document; Unusually, this incident occurred when neither car was on a push lap. No harm done. Penalized because it was a British driver that whined, had a foreigner whined it would have been let go of.
@@endthisnonsense7202 I'm not even saying I agree with the penalty but claiming that' because a British driver is involved... even more George who fronts the GPDA and went against Bin Sulayem and his mates recently. He would be the last on their list to get any favours.
@@tuttutteddy8889 So, if someone punches you in the face and then tells you to chill out, because you're a strong person and your eye will heal, will you also be okay with that then? It's a stupid and clearly biased penalty, not saying British, but just the anti-Max bullshit that's been growing quite a lot recently. They literally pulled this bullshit penalty out of their ass for no reason. But because it's Max, he should be fine with having worked his ass off for nothing?
@ just a dumb penalty. The punishment doesn’t exist for what they penalised him for. If it’s not impeding then it shouldn’t be a penalty point either. If it’s driving too slow they shouldn’t have listed all the mitigating factors plus admitting George had plenty of time seeing Verstappen and didn’t slow. Neither were on push laps. If anything George was just going fairly quickly as he was well up on the delta time
First time I’ve seen they gave a penalty when both drivers on a outlap.
They essentially saying if you’re behind in your outlap you can just floor to give the guy in front a penalty. Absolutely Ridiculous.
Wow I am amazed yet agian by the FIA we have no Johnny Herbert and or Niels wittich at the head so I taught the British bais / clown show would be over .. but noooo. Both drivers where on a cooldown lap and so you need to drive a delta time , it’s up to the drivers how to achieve that lap time . Maybe by driving 30kmh in sector 1 and 380kmh in sector 2 ( a yoke like the penalty ) if it’s within the delta time it should be fine . But noooo . M4X isn’t British and so gets a penalty 🤦♂️ I have to admit the official statement was nicely written down and explained , but still it’s a joke . Make a new rule then where you are allowed to drive slow and where not 🤦♂️🤫
You can't drive around like my nan would on the racing line, whether for an outlap or a timed lap
The penalty was fair. Max was driving dangerously. Russell was not on a hot lap so maybe that's why it wasn't severe
I'm a hamiliton fan don't like max and there is no world in which that penalty is anything other than a fucking joke.
@@justsomeguywithamoustachea2712 i disagree but i fear im in the minority
The can of wurms is open. Max never forgets. There will a quali where Max will uae this, and afferwards FIA will create a new Verstappen rule to get the can closed again.
nah next quali they will already close it since other drivers will try to use it
Max can’t do anything if the driver in front completes the outlap within the maximum time.
The future quali you're thinking of is probably next quali. And it might not even me Max doing it first. It's so exploitable.
@@hipotenuza5663 He didn't. Alonso was ahead of him going over 20 kph slower into that corner. There is no way any of this makes any sense.
@@the1gladiator2 Alonso also overtook him?
I don’t think anyone expected that Red Bull turnaround
Especially after that sprint
I don't think Redbull expected that either
I did but I didn’t expect them to be tht shit in the sprint this track is like made for them
Mercedes 2.0
Not RedBull…more like Max turnaround
Drivers have been doing this all season and no penalties, Verstappen does it and suddenly it's deserving of a penalty. There's obvious bias, this can not be allowed to continue into next year.
Was Russell on a lap?
Nope.. Outlap @@NeumannKlaus
Outlap and Reasoning just makes it ridiculous
@@lemarkexyz2931ive seen it, ridiculous
Worst part is, they even acknowledge in the statement about the penalty, that Max didn't impede, but supposedly he did, that neither was on a push lap. Supposedly because Max knew he was there, looking in his mirrors? But George also knew, but somehow that matters less?
And Max WAS within the delta they have to uphold, and yet they sill penalize him?
There IS a bias against Max, British or not, there is a clear bias, and it's getting absolutely stupid now.
Max deserved that pole, he did amazing and worked his ass off for it, but he's just not allowed to have it.
Hope George is proud of it though.
This sport is not fun like this anymore, the FIA going out of their goddamn way every chance they have to screw over certain drivers, while protecting others, is just breaking the sport completely and taking all fun out of it.
Maybe Max did something wrong? Wasn't he off his delta?
Agree that the silly one place penalty doesn't help matters. Either give three places or a fine.
Just checked the telemetry, Max's lap was 2:22:430 , Lando's 2:01:080 ( George's 1:52:083 ) .
Max was gifted a championship in 2021. Don't play the victim card now
@@richeh79 In what world is leading over twice the laps of everyone else and winning every category (regardless of Abu Dhabi) being gifted a title? Why do so many race fans not care about performance?
@@richeh79 Jesus Christ, can you people just get over yourselves already? Get a life, get out there, date someone. Try to be happy. Get some therapy maybe.
And if you REALLY cared that much, you would have checked back then that it was literally in the rules, and agreed between all teams to end in racing conditions. Deal with it.
Maybe take it up with Lewis and Merc that he didn't pit himself, especially with the incredible speed of that Merc.
And Max still had to drive the lap of a lifetime, because even with those old tyres, Lewis still got quite close.
So, either actually deal with reality, or just have yourself committed.
My whole point is that this is NOT in the rules, the safety car situation in 2021, WAS. Since you just HAD to bring it up.
Again, please, PLEASE get help.
I think the biggest farce of the penalty, is the fact that they gave him a penalty point on his licence as well.
Both Yuki, and Checo were investigated for the same during sprint qualifying, and both found to have driven too slowly without a good reason, and both only got a reprimand. So then why in the hell is it suddenly now a penalty?
With such a lack of consistency, the Stewards need to start including why they hand out a penalty in one instance, when they didn't previously.
I hope RedBull can find a way to appeal this, and get it sorted before the race.
Did either of them impede someones preperation because they were under their delta?
@@offcourse9241Russel could see him from miles away. Stop the bs pls
Apparently the stewards saw Max keep looking in his mirror so he knew George was coming and yet he still stayed slow on the racing line. It's so dangerous - flying lap or not - George only just missed him. Licence point is perhaps too far but they haven't given the whole 3 place grid penalty it could have been at least.
@@cate20000 if he moved he causes a massive crash dude..
@@cate20000Max also had another car in front, lap was almost done. He was just making sure to have enough space for his push lap. Watching the onboard from Russel he actually sees both cars, but continues pushing in his prep lap, because he doesnt want to compromis. Nothing to see here, but the FIA continues with their inconsistency and bs.
Gotta say this is the best sprint format. Because Parc Ferme is lifted after the sprint it upsets the order instead of the sprint race being just a spoiler alert for the main race. Sprint also acts as practice now and teams can make changes(or not) for better or worse. Just look at Hulkenberg and Verstappen.
Perez 10 year contract extension incoming for not being knocked out in quali
I wonder what kind of dirt he has on Horner. He MUST have something, it has to be more than just the money he brings in.
@@mutthead1444 The dirt is Sabotage give him a contender car!!!! If Checon was a Brit they would and you would be hush.
@@jiujitsujediMax is Dutch and yet he seems just fine. This is not quite in line with what is going on at the team I think
Verstappen getting the first penalty for slow driving. Wow.
Wrong passport
Boring @@Palmboom313
@@FormulaProg He is not wrong though. FIA keeps giving random penalties when they feel like it. I doubt this would've happened in Zandvoort with Max, Monza with Ferrari or with Lando and Lewis in Silverstone.
@@erwinr9328 he is wrong though. All you've done is provided your biased view as to why it's always British drivers or something like that that are exempt from the rules. Which is clearly nonsense. If you actually use your brain, you'd know that.
@@FormulaProg I don't want to know what Verstappen would have gotten if he had started a second warm up lap after an aborted start or if Red Bull had adjusted the tyre pressures with the wheels on the car during a red flag. I don't want there to be british bias or any bias, but there is definitely anti-Verstappen bias recently and it is showing.
The amount of effort to slow Max down is truly impressive;
A bit sad, also because it isn't even working, but impressive nonetheless.
Clearly, a lot of people are having sleepless nights over Max's incredible power.
That’s just a bad precedent to set. If you are on a slow lap just drive fast behind the car in front of you= 1 place grid penalty for you
No it’s a good precedent of finally penalizing drivers for ignoring the maximum outlap time.
The FIA have been drumming this forever that drivers can’t be too slow on an outlap.
If Max completed that lap within the maximum time then he wouldn’t have gotten a penalty.
He got a sporting advantage going slower than he was allowed to.
@@paperplane-db8qfThere’s been literally hundreds of instances of drivers doing this, but now it’s suddenly time to penalize? Get a grip man
@@Mrehs9 i do believe that max deserved the penalty but you're right. People have done this before and gotten away with it. Carlos didn't get s penalty after las vagas when he entered the pitline either. We need to change the stewarding system
@@Europeanguy831 George was not on a hot lap, if he was it makes more sense to hand out the penalty. Giving a penalty when both drivers is on an out lap is the most ridiculous thing I’ve witnessed in my 20 years of watching F1
@@Mrehs9 i thought max deserved the penalty but i think this might have to be an astricts pole for Russell. It's a shame because if he wins the race people will say he didn't deserve it and ignore the drive in the race
Looking forward to how teams will be exploiting this.
Get your 2nd driver to just be behind a rival team at any stage of Quali , floor the throttle and if the car doesn't weave aggressively out of the way. Penalty.
Max got a penalty for it, 1 spot back. Absolutely re-f*cking-diculous.
And a penalty point..that makes it even crazier..Perez in Australia got 3 places and 0 penalty points
you already won drivers champ what does it matter
@@sigzsz9281 it DOES matter! Not on a hot lap? just drive i the back to someone, -1P. GTFO..
lol, someone is mad Max finally got accurately punished
youre right, they should have banned him from the championship for being a crybaby
Happy Sauber fan. Great qualifying in P12 and P13. Much improved performance since Las Vegas. Let's see what happens tomorrow
Will you keep supporting sauber after the audi take over?
@hideouspatje Yes, I will. 2025, the team is still called Sauber and then Audi from 2026
@@pascalplastina9596okay, but thats not what he asked. He asked if you will support thr team beyond 2026
@Hungary_0987 Yes, I will keep supporting the team
What is your reason to support Sauber? Because they are bad?
Stewards just literally making it up as they go along. 😊
Connelly was the steward, the man who got reprimanded for trying to collude and get toto to collude with him, behind the backs of the other stewards, to get verstappen a penalty a couple of yrs ago! Every time this man is stewarding, verstappen somehow gets a penalty for something others did not get penalized.
The image they showed behind russell, and palmer talking abt gravel, meanwhile he never went through gravel behind verstappen, and that footage was of a different moment in time… that’s just creating a story that never existed
He also keep going on gambling site to give betting advice, also never hide his hate towards Max when he was on there. No idea how FIA can keep claiming this is not conflict of interest.
it shouldn't have been a penalty but ever since Max called out the bias, he's been getting F'ed over by the stewards repeatedly. Sick of this sport.
The rules are black and white that drivers need to complete all laps within a maximum time.
Max exceeded the maximum time and gained a sporting advantage. The penalty was 100% justified.
If he drove faster and kept within the maximum time he wouldn’t have been penalized.
@@paperplane-db8qf Drivers have been doing that all season, they just have to provide an explanation for why they were above the required lap time and are let go. The Russell incident during the lap was the motivation for the penalty.
@@paperplane-db8qf sry bro but if you believe all that bullshit you wrote youre a total 🤡 and you have 0 knowledge of the sport!
@@paperplane-db8qf In Sprint Quali we had 40! cases a driver went over the delta time. And in non of these cases a driver got penelized
"It was obvious the driver of Car 1 was attempting to cool his tyres. He also could see Car 63 approaching as he looked in his mirror multiple times whilst on the small straight between Turns 11 and 12."
Fia will try anything😂 this has become hilarious...
where were they in 2021?
In 2021, they dropped Hammy boy suddenly after years of coddling him. Picked up Max thinking they can shape him to their pleasure. The romance was over by 2023😂 Only problem, they don't know who to coddle now. Max is not a complying sap and the others are too young, too soft or too old, too washed. A scripting nightmare indeed!
@@richeh79they didn’t penalize Hamilton appropriately for yeeting max off the track in the Brit GP. There you go. Even
@@richeh79 Covering for Hamilton at Silverstone and Hungary.
The "we want Russel on pole penalty". F1 is seriously ridiculous.
Max didnt follow his delta
@@qwertewq4710And that’s not a guaranteed penalty, it happens often, and nothing happens. Objectively, it’s bullshit, if Yuki and Checo have the same incident and there’s no penalty, why does Max get one? It’s not even about Max being targeted, it’s about FIA’s consistency being absolutely rubbish.
@@AyyFuji it's a pity most F1 fans are blind to this obvious inconsistent ruling they must be dts fans
@@AyyFujiredbull should've been disqualified after the illegal braking system and then again with the ride hight but verstapen won the champ with an illegal car. So redbull should shut up
@@razvanduminica10 keep crying
What this FIA has done and is doing is shameful and outrageous. A total mockery, an insult to those who follow F1. Millions of comments around the world harshly criticizing what the FIA has done.
Max getting a ONE PLACE GRID PENALTY is honest a JOKE
he was lucky. should have been a 3-place one.
@@mr.iceman_ Nope. They were not on a push lap, I agree with Tommy. Watch Max do the same next race, use the same words on the radio, just to ram the point home. They typically would both be trying to open a gap to start their lap. If George wanted to start going full speed with two or three corners to go, he should not have been right behind Max. I feel this was wrong and will open up things for other drivers and probably will get a clarification rule in the off-season.
@@mr.iceman_no it shouldnt😂
@@mr.iceman_ Clearly you don't know the rules. George wasn't on a fast lap, neither was Max, and the only time you get a 3 place grid penalty, is if you impede a driver on a fast lap, which again, George wasn't.
No joke. It's a fact! 🤣
This is such bs. But good to know you can screw other drivers in front of you by suddenly accelerating, because delta, and then suddenly be surprised that the car in front of you is slower.
Probably Herbert who is stewarding.
Warwick, even worse
@@JM_daDoc and Connelly
Drivers have to complete an outlap before the maximum time. It’s a sporting advantage to go slower than allowed.
George shouldn’t have to risk getting a fine or penalty just because Max is driving too slow.
@@paperplane-db8qf Nah there was no risk, you see, he is british.
The fact that they only gave him a 1 Place Penalty shows how ridiculous it is. I have never ever seen anyone giving a 1 place penalty
BREAKING NEWS, MAX HIT WITH 1-PLACE GRID PENALTY
British bias
@@Palmboom313 He's won the World Championship. Wind your neck in!
@@bobbooster2130 thank god you have never anything to decide.
@@Palmboom313 Nope lol. Not everything you dislike is British bias my guy.
@@Sn0wfeverR 1 Do you know God? 2 How do you know what I decide?
I bet that the next penalty for Max is for eating cheese ...or drinking water....
Such a joke of a penalty. But not shocked at this point, complete clown show.
Didn't realise you were part of the show?
@@bobbooster2130 Hush you lulu fanboi
2 P1 videos in one evening simply lovely
Well done FIA, now Mad Max will be furious behind the wheel and he will win with a 30 sec. lead
In fairness to Ocon, he's been saying that there's an issue with the chassis for weeks.
Lando started a unauthorised formation lap and got nothing
Merc changed tyre pressures and got nothing
Lando jumped the start in Saudi Arabia and got nothing
Max impedes a driver on their outlap and 1 place pen and a penalty point
Right! Make it make sense!
Russell created the entire situation as well, he got info about the drivers up front and saw them but still went full speed into the back of them then did a little 'wiggle', shameless.
Yeah well there is your ridiculous penalty lmao
I am not a max fan but that penalty is f-ing ridiculous!! 1 spot back and a penalty point?! What a joke the FIA is!
The FIA reeks of unfair bias
that was warm up lap. not time lap. Russell is wrong.
Russell wrong and whinging? No, not Russell 😂😂
@@Gaelic-Rex*whinning
if u wanna hate, hate properly.
@@yxyxyx2010
BRITISH
verb
gerund or present participle: whinging
complain persistently and in a peevish or irritating way
😎
@@Gaelic-Rexdamn what a comeback 😂
@@Gaelic-RexGeorge literally repeated his own "he turned into me" meme today in the sprint race vs Piastri. The man has no shame 😂
No bad performance from Hulk, had a technical issue with the ERS, didn’t have proper deployment so it cost him time and obvs quali was super close
Mat & Tommy, thank you for entertaining the audience with professional analysis and creativities. Awesome!
What a sick FIA. Brits Connely and Warick again.
Right? Such Dutch bias. Everyone else gets 3 places but Max only got 1.
@@kwan3560 show me 1 incident where someone got 3 places for outlap stuff
@@kwan3560 IT WAS DURING AN OUTLAP. Russell was speeding for no reason.
Connelly is Australian.
Warwick actually likes Max. He is not Herbert.
Sorry for these facts.
@@ab8jeh Australia's Head of State is the Brits King. Aka Brits did it again.
I'm a George fan and even I'm confused by the pen, that should tell you everything😂 like I'll take it, of course, but especially the one place grid drop seems weiiird
Same, gonna chalk it up as a makeup for other times Max got away with sketchy driving.
I want someone to look at me the way Max looks at George. 😅 9:11
RedBull plan for Checo,... keep him, be 5th in constructors championship, get more wind tunnel time, better car, easy win for Max drivers champ :D
That was some excellent acting from George this type of behavior is normally associated with Spanish or Argentinian soccer players.
When being a second behind your teammate feels like a win, you know you have no business being in that car.
Max 1 place penalty lmao. Russell sunset drive two weeks in a row
Australia also was a no penalty for Alonso, but strange thinhs happen when George misjudges distances 😂
The can of worms has just been opened 🧐
Max should call in sick for the rest of the season. F the FIA. Corrupt idiots, the lot of them
He should. It'd be more fun
Max vs. the british and the british maFIA: 4-0
Here's my view on the penalty as a George fan if anyone cares
Was max going slow on the line, yes. Were either of them on a push lap, no
Did the fia give a proper reason, no
I can understand that they gave max the penalty because George was faster and max was on the racing line, but he wasn't on a push lap and I don't think I have ever seen a 1 place penalty
Edit: I looked at the rules, it is so broad that this is just some bs
I’m pretty sure they noted Verstappen for driving too slowly not for impeding and that’s why he got the penalty.
@Anna-gm6zy so the exact rule says the driver can't go too slow or erratic, but we don't know what the delta is so it's unclear if it is actually a penalty
You don’t want to go of the raceline to much when prepping tyres. So bs argument from George. Can’t get my head around either why they gave him a penalty and a penalty point.
@@Anna-gm6zy then we had seen more penalties in the past.
remember it's a Brit complaining so!!!!!
It was not a penalty. First time a penalty has ever been given for that
The other thing that makes the penalty a total joke is that Verstappen was only going slowly in the first place because Alonso suddenly slowed down in front of him. What was Max supposed to do other than slow down?
Okay Max will win this, this ridiculous punishment is enough to piss him off
He's always pissed off regardless
Finally getting some use out of Checo 🙏
Max had to slow down for Alonso, check the telemetry.
Hi Matt and Tommy, Would you spend a full episode of 30 min to discuss who Lawson hate the most?
Alonso, Yuki, Perez
Preferably in order
Sincerely
00:03 Now we know who will replace Perez
A racist Brit???
Max used the sprintrace for normal fp2 long-run practice
Agree that a penalty for Max is insane
Have 2 drivers on the front row with nothing to lose is very interesting
The penalty for Max is a joke. How can you get in the way of someone not even on a lap in the first place. That new race directer hasn't brought much change to the way the FIA deals out penalty's. Sainz cutting the pitlane in Vegas was just track limits where other drivers got penalty's in Austria and the past for doing the same thing. But this one is the most BS penalty i have ever seen. It would not surprise me if drivers start doing what Russell did and just make it look like it's dangerous when there not even on a lap.
Exactly. The whole thing has become a joke now. Max also got a penalty point on his license, when no one else did for the same sort of penalty.
It’s too sad the whole focus is on the penalty rather than the insane back and forth between Russell and Verstappen in that qualifying. They both drove out of their minds. That’s a title fight I really want to see.
PEREZ MADE IT TO Q3 🐐 🇲🇽
Am i dreaming
RedBull gonna extend his contract again after this one
And helped Max .
Olso
@@randomguy4616for sure My boy
@@randomguy4616 for another 3 years
Im fairly certain this is the first 1-Place Grid Penalty in F1 history. Like what even is that? Impeding is a 3-Place Grid Penalty. Either give him 0 or 3, not 1
And now Max gets a ONE place grid penalty. What are they on? It's getting ridiculous at this point.
Max has won from so many different grid positions? Why are you so but hurt?
@@bobbooster2130 one thing has nothing to do with the other
@@Sn0wfeverR Oh no... It's snowing... I might get a fever!! 🤣
@@bobbooster2130 how is that funny?
@@Sn0wfeverR Only you wouldn't know!! 🤣
Red Bull and Kick being the only teams with an FP2 session really worked out for them
How dare you tell the truth so bluntly?
Did I miss something?
@@ryanjarrett8344 atleast Perez went into the pits in the sprint race to change into FP2 testing instead, trying out an other wing etc.
Exactly this right here. Red Bull solving Modern Problems this weekend.
@@ryanjarrett8344 They're saying, RBR and Stake used the sprint to make more adjustments instead of trying to win it, and the result is way different that the sprint race here.
Race-impacting penalty for impeding a Brit's OUTLAP
Don’t matter now🏆🥇
First, I tough it was a penalty, bit then Russel said he was opening a lap, so he could have just waited.
First, I thought it was a penalty, but then it was OBR, who somehow almost fully turned into Max.
Yep, he wanted to pass Max, so he should have gone around Max. George and Max were both not on a hot lap.
Watch George onboard...he wasnt even pushing till he saw Max, only then he started pushing ... if this is a penalty , itwould show how you can intentionally force another driver into a penalty
@@Andrea-vl6mfit is a pen.. 1 place grid drop. Idek fking know anymore
@@mchouseboat3405 George is the same one they are Hyping so much on Sky F1, quite a shame.
Hope Max gives him a big portion of humble pie down to turn one
This penalty coming right after I watched the Senna series. Russell must know some really powerful higher-ups, cos all his shouts for penalties have almost all worked, still remember when he got Alonso penalised because he randomly crashed during the Australian GP this year.
Hulkenberg got problems with his ERS, he said in an interview after Q
Love the channel, just a massive shame I can't watch the twitch watchalongs because I'm using now tv and pausing isn't an option
That 1 place grid penalty was personal 🗿
And after they press stop on recording Matt & Tommy get out of their respective bedrooms, give each other a high five and a share a beer in the living room. I am telling you: the split-screen thing is a farce! :P
So Max's pole had been taken away. If that is not bias I don't know what is.
Next stewards to be fired, for making up penalties.
@roelsteeghs Carlos no penalty in Vegas, George and Lando no penalty in Brazil . I mean ...
Do you even know what bias means? If every time something happens to Max, you're convinced it's a conspiracy theory against him. I would suggest you're the one with the bias here.
@@FormulaProgyou get it. A-lot of people dont see it like that unfortunately but thats inherently what being biased is. People with (most times) clouded judgement acting on emotion instead of logically. We are all guilty of it at some point in our lives lol.
@@ThatGuyGloomy I'm not necessarily saying it should have been a penalty here, but people need to change the record. Obviously we don't want to see penalties unless they're absolutely necessary. But this obsession with it being about nationality is getting out of hand at this point.
red bull havent caught up just yet, they are improving though, i told you a stable good enough car is all perez needs, and i bet you next year perez would be back to his 2022 self hehe
Simple stuff is simple: Max does not deserve a penalty for Russell driving erratically during a slow/warm-up lap. Therefore: 1) Max will get a penalty by the Brits and corrupt FIA, and 2) Ocon gets a 3 place grid penalty.
Yep, this. Even George himself didn't seem too bothered with it during the post quali interviews. But hey....any reason to penalize Verstappen is a good reason.
@@1973HenkY the only one driving erratically was Max. Drivers have to complete a lap before a maximum time and Max did not.
Max gained a sporting advantage going too slow. Russell was following the rules.
@@paperplane-db8qf Max is a racer. Russell follows the rules, as was usual in Germany circa 1933-1945.
@@paperplane-db8qf Max wasn't driving erratically, you not being intelligent enough to use words you actually know the meaning of isn't anyone else's fault but yours.
Even if there is no Bias about Max from the FIA, They are doing a great job of it looking like they fucking hate him. (Max fan here btw)
Well we knew you were a Max fan lol
@@stevenlannister184 Pleny of non Max fans are calling this BS out as well, though.
THEY GAVE MAX A PENALTY
THE ABSOLUTE NERVE
PHUN ! THERE... IS... MORE !" :P
It shows that the stewards are really biased
nice rpm styled comment
1 place drop and a penalty point to boot...
@@Elvewizzy. totally ridcioulous is that really i mean it hurts my intelligence it wasnt a push lap first & foremost & 2nd max clearly reduced his speed what do they exepct him to do ? Ghost ? Ffs XD
@@derosiflo6524 Yea. RPM is the G.
Regarding Hülkenberg: According to the german sky broadcast, he had issues with the car energy supply. Battery or something didn't give full strength and that's why he couldn't really get much out of the car.
No surprised after seeing the steward line up 😂
Max must have another record , that for getting a new penalty for something never penalized in that way before ?
Again the british need FIA help to actualy do something 😂
Shout out to those Red-Bull mechanics. Checo p9 could very much mean a max masterclass tmo. I wouldn’t be surprised if he pulls 10+ seconds like he has in years past.
I could see Max walking from the sport if this keeps up! The agenda is clear now!
There's no agenda. He constantly crashes and pushes the rules. Of course he'll get more penalties. He's gotten luck so far if anything.
Plus if he quit the sport, it'd be better off.
@@stevenlannister184constantly crashes? You don’t watch f1 do you
Btw, Hulkenberg had an energy deployment issue which cost him 0.5s, it wasnt his fault at all
That penalty was farcical. I’m surprised they didn’t hit Carlos with one for not being British. 🤣
Bellend Russell whines. Bellend MBS interferes. Situation normal. The only question in F1 now is whether MBS has chosen Russell or Norris as 2025 WDC.
The FIA is officially a clown show
Russell has officially become F1's diva !
Still max with his crying about not being allowed to swear. I though he was an adult
@chrisjones5411 if I recall, he didn't say a word but go ahead show me an interview where he even mentioned it
So basically George tries to be menace
And drivers in the front gets penalty.
Alonso in Australia
Max in Qatar
Were you both wearing items of clothing that said Tommy on them? Which one is Matt now then or is it P1 with the Tommys
well done, Russel, cry like a true sportsman and a true gentleman. An Achievement with a capital A.
Enjoy and celebrate your pole
hulk had a mechanical issue with his battery, messed up his quali
You should penalize when there is damage done. From the decision document; Unusually, this incident occurred when neither car was on a push lap.
No harm done.
Penalized because it was a British driver that whined, had a foreigner whined it would have been let go of.
Will you whine about British bias anytime a decision favours a British driver? Should they never get their way then?
@@soundscape26 No, I WON'T whine every time, only when no harm was done so no penalty would ever have been applied unless the Brits were whining.
@@endthisnonsense7202 I'm not even saying I agree with the penalty but claiming that' because a British driver is involved... even more George who fronts the GPDA and went against Bin Sulayem and his mates recently. He would be the last on their list to get any favours.
@@endthisnonsense7202 calm down. It’s one place. It’s max. He will be back within the first lap
@@tuttutteddy8889 So, if someone punches you in the face and then tells you to chill out, because you're a strong person and your eye will heal, will you also be okay with that then?
It's a stupid and clearly biased penalty, not saying British, but just the anti-Max bullshit that's been growing quite a lot recently. They literally pulled this bullshit penalty out of their ass for no reason.
But because it's Max, he should be fine with having worked his ass off for nothing?
Hugh Bird finally learned how to properly pronounce "Andele! Andele!" I see.
Red bull & max. Yay P1. FIA. I dont think so.
Hungover from Vegas and woke up! 😂
1 PLACE PENALTY MAX JUST GOT ARE YOU JOKING WHAT IS THIS🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡
I'm confused. Why do people not agree with the penalty? Max was slow and drove dangerously despite Russell on a cooldown lap. Am i missing something?
@ just a dumb penalty. The punishment doesn’t exist for what they penalised him for. If it’s not impeding then it shouldn’t be a penalty point either. If it’s driving too slow they shouldn’t have listed all the mitigating factors plus admitting George had plenty of time seeing Verstappen and didn’t slow. Neither were on push laps. If anything George was just going fairly quickly as he was well up on the delta time
@@Europeanguy831 You're playing dumb, Stop spamming.
@@Kaimax61 I'm not spamming. I'm simply debating with people. Know your place
Bro stop spamming@@Europeanguy831
Wasn't Russell on an outlap?
If Max gets a penalty I’ll eat grass when I wake up tomorrow, no way he gets a penalty cause Derek is on stewarding
Hope grass tastes nice :D they gave him an idiotic 1 place grid drop
@@Freeze014what does that even matter 😭
Doesnt matter for the race, i think Mclaren and Russell habe better race pace.
Of course he won't lol
Prepare that grass then...
Penalty is a joke. This is probably a 1st for an outlap. Either way, its good to see Max with a competent car again.