One of the MOST INSUFFERABLE characters ever!!! | REVIEW Indiana Jones and the dial of destiny
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Back in the day, Harrison Ford did his own stunts. Now he just does his own character assassinations.
Exactly. It seems like he hates the characters that made him world famous.
@@corvega_joe From what I’ve heard he loves these characters but got roped in with contractual nonsense.
Man wants to just leave these movies behind but disney’s crubby hands wont let him, which is just perfectly in character for the company.
Ford isn't a child. Nobody forced him to go along with this mess. He is guilty for not turning the roles down.
I like Harrison Ford as an actor, but he's only in it for the money. In an interview about the new Star Wars movies he said something to the effect of "I didn't get nostalgic. I got paid." I believe he was asked about how he felt when he boarded the Millenium Falcon again.
@tatuvarvemaa5314 Mark Hamill had that situation with Jake Skywalker. Harrison seems good with this tripe.
Don't insult middle-aged librarians like that. Evie from the Mummy movies was leagues above this woman!😂❤
she was the best! I miss characters like that
Evie from the Mummy is beloved and she earned it through her actions and Marion Ravenwood as well and those characters are miles better then whatever PW-B is.
@@wolfkult4320 She wouldn't be considered a strong independent woman, despite being the moral backbone that convinces Rick O'Connell to stick around to actually stop the Mummy.
@@mrbigglezworth42 You are sadly right. She would need to be perfect in every single way and acknowledge she is being held back by Rick from achieving true perfection
Oh, she so totally rocked in those movies. Funny how the lefties never mention her when they preach the lack of female characters in action movies.
What sucks is Ford accepting this and allowing them to destroy his legacy. He should have Henry Cavilled it
He seems to have an active disdain for his career and iconic characters.
Dude is a bagillion years old, maybe he just sees it all as stupid, who knows?
@@EdgarFriendlysCivicsTeacher I think he's just really tired of constantly being talked to about roles he did 30-40 years ago.
@@Screamingmanta I can imagine, he's always been a law unto himself.
I feel like he doesn't care at this point and just wants to get as much money as he can so his family will be financially secure as long as possible when he's gone. I might be wrong since I know nothing of his personal life, but that's the feeling I get.
@@EdgarFriendlysCivicsTeacheri mean i remember back with that "who shot first interview clip" when it seemed he really just didn't care. I guess some actors just like the spotlight and relevancy more then the characters they actually play.
Back in the day, The Emperor's New Groove pulled something like that where the bad guys were behind the heroes then magically end up in front of them. At least in that movie they played it off like as a joke where Kuzko is like "how did you guys get here before us?" And Yzma is like "I dont know, Kronk how did we get here first", to which Kronk pulls out the map of both parties journeys and says "I dont know, by all accounts it doesn't make any sense"
Man, I love that movie.
@@SamtheBravesFanthat's an under-rated movie
They lampshaded it.
In the spanish dub kronk says “it must have been cinema magic”
@@SamtheBravesFanit was the punishment movie just like Shrek where they sent the troublemakers in the studio
"Remember how everyone hated what they did to Luke Skywalker?"
yeah...?
"What if we do that to Indy?"
um...no?
"Right, settled then. He's a washed up, incompetent alcoholic...this is gonna be HUGE. I love doing character growth!"
Lololo
The reason this keeps happening is because a certain group have declared war on white people, from destroying the homogeneity of every white nation through mass immigration to "deconstructing" white history and turning whites from explorers and innovators to exploiters and "racists" to destroying strong white male icons in media, it's all part of the same agenda. However, until white people start thinking as white people, start speaking as white people, start being proud that they are white people, the proper criticism of this assault will never be achieved.
"Remember how everyone reacted when we turned General Solo into a deadbeat dad, who's son hated him so much he killed him, and couldn't remember where he parked the Millennium Falcon"
"Yeah...?
"What if we do that to Indy?"
"um ... NO!"
"Right, settled then. He's a washed up, incompetent alcoholic...this is gonna be HUGE. I love doing character growth!"
It makes you wonder how these people got to where they are now. Independent film creators would've done a better job.
@kylethoren1949 I don't know how you got the tape, but good work!
What Gary says is true: The hero's journey is the path to becoming something greater than he once was. The heroine's journey is the path to making everyone around her understand how great she already is. Luke vs Rey. Iron Man vs Iron Heart. Captain America vs Captain Marvel. 90's Mulan vs 2020 Mulan. Good writing vs modern activism.
Sooo Rom-Com then .. most of them is about how amazing she is and the world gonna understand it and change because of her personality and charm … probably why I don’t like Rom-Coms they feels like it disrespects woman and other characters in a bad way of being useless idiots..or something like that..!
Well there is actually a thing called "heroine's journey" in storytelling theory. It's a cycle with several similarities with the hero's journey (character's gender is of course irrelevant).
The driving point of this journey is for the heroine the concile and harmonize two very different aspect of herself that seems to be incompatible at first. They're called "masculine" and "feminine" in the theory (that's just terms, can suit a large variety of concepts). The classical road is for the heroine who 1) previously abandoned feminine for masculine to 2) realize the limitations of one part, 3) learn about the other and reconcile with it 4) Understand that first part still has relevance and try combine both in an harmonious and beneficial way 5) Triumph over the story challenge and her own contraditions and doubt. Where the hero's journey is more exterior (exploring a foreign world, even if just metaphorical) and becoming better before returning home, this one is more interior.
Of course finding validity and beauty to both masculine and feminine sides and try to make them work together is an horror for the sick woke people. I'd rather call their methods: "the narcistic's journey"
@@benjaminthibieroz4155 thats what it should still be instead of this crap and the movies the op listed. its getting a little better in the writing industry but you still have a ton of male and female characters being made into the worst characters even though they are the main characters. i don't usually like these terms butits appropriate to this, toxic masculinity and toxic femininity.
You forgot to put quotes around "great" because when they have to run around telling everyone how great, strong, smart, independent, and beautiful they are they aren't.
That's not a Heroine's journey, it is a Mary Sue's journey.
Indiana Jones and the insufferable feminist.
Indiana Jones and the Dial of Dysentery
Edit: thanks for the likes.
Indiana Jones and the Drop of Duke
@@reek4062 She definitely turned you down by the looks.
Indiana Jones and the denial of dementia.
Indiana Jones and the Dial of Disappointment
For Ford, it must have been just like life with Calista. Just not high as a kite I guess.
Indiana Jones and the Box Office of Doom!
Disney "You dont like our strong female heroes."
Their Strong Female Heroes "I robbed this man of a lifetime of happiness."
"...and he deserved it *just* *because* he's a male and I'm a beautiful, self-reliant female!" (seems to be the sentiment there)
Disney we don’t like Misandry. Disney you direct hate at men.
A feminist character is unlikeable?
But that Never Happens!
Why do you hate women so much???
@@AzguardMikeprobably bcs, from the way you've described it, it's extremely obnoxious
@@AzguardMikeThat's not what feminism is, lol.
@@Xeno_Solarus Way to miss the point.
@@AzguardMike That sounds like a garbage comic, I'm not surprised no one would publish it. That just sounds like ideological fantasy
Her character is made to destroy the concept of a hero.
The writers don't think she is heroic.
They don't want any of us to be heroic.
I would rather have watched a young indie in the full film with out the god daughter.
@svensvensson7066 a very perceptive comment.
But then they want people to jump in to help people in a crisis and berate them if they mind there own business and do not interfear.
They want to destroy male heroes. Nonstop Misandry.
There are only 3 Indiana Jones films; Raiders, Temple of Doom and Last Crusade. That's it.
Crystal Skull might've been good if they'd dispensed with the unbelievable over the top corny nonsense in it. The nuke scene, etc. I dunno what is wrong with movies
these days. Just get fucking Lawrence Kasdan or someone competent to go back and look at Raiders, and come up with something that's on that level. It cannot
be that difficult. Even something revolving around ancient Egypt or something would have been far superior, a search for Tut's magic Ankh, whatever the fuck!
I miss complaining about Temple of Doom as "the dumb one".. I had no idea how good we had it.
@@jagtaggart936 I feel like the problem with Doom was not the storyline, which is pretty fun, but the extra helpings of corny that started to creep in with the second film. And just ridiculous stunts like the stupid airplane escape, oh please! Started to be over the top in not a good way. The characters and storyline were not that bad. Kate Capshaw kind of sucked....I liked her cleavage though. LOL Short Round was a great character for sure. But the Corn! omg
@@thiscorrosion900 Lawrence Kasdan, the guy who hasn't wrote any good movie in 20 years? The same guy who wrote Solo with his son.. and through nepotism we got Willow (the show which got/will be deleted from Disney+).
You're insane.. 😂
@@daghostds Actually.....nah I'm not insane, I just keep forgetting that his name was once quality and now it's garbage. Nevermind! You're 100 per cent right. He sucks shit now! LOL Even Ridley Scott cannot come up with a good movie anymore. It's like everybody with talent from 30 years ago or more just collectively lost their minds.
It’s great that KK thinks she’s smashing up everyone’s toys and making them mad, but everyone’s just belly laughing at her, to a point that it’s starting to get hysterical. And the more funny it gets, the more mad she gets and the more she screws up. Future generations will look back at this (probably after it’s been made into a hit comedy) and wish they were here to witness it.
I agree, i just hate that the industry atm is just companies buying popular IP's and making 10 sequels and remakes. Creativity really has stagnated.
I just wonder if the golden age of Hollywood is over, if we will ever see the reemergence of the movie star and if we will ever get talented people making films out of passion again.
I am so tired of coming out the movies and being like "well that wasn't completely awful". The bar is so low that even mediocrity is refreshing to people.
@@illuminous7937 it will come back but not in my lifetime. I see a lot of kids being pushed into ‘creative’ jobs by their parents when they have absolutely no aptitude or real interest in it. I can’t tell you how many 16-22 year olds I’ve met who say they want to make films for a living (and are studying it at university), and actually describe themselves as experts or film directors….and haven’t even got a UA-cam channel or made a short video outside the educational establishment. I’d love to give a young person a chance but they just don’t know how to do anything.
@@illuminous7937Video game movies and the godzilla movies as well as movies based off shows and toys seem to he doing alright, I mean yea they may still have too many sequils and other stuff but at least they seem to have true passion behind them and not just the desire for money and popularity while disregarding anything fans say
KK: (Angrily writes bad fanfiction) Look! LOOOOOOK! Your precious male heroes are all DEAD and-and replaced with BETTER ones because they're WOMEN!
Fans: Dood. None of this nonsense is canon. It was made by a different studio with different people who never liked the franchise.
KK: REEEEEEEEEEE!
@@illuminous7937 Keanu Reeves, Tom Cruise, Chris Pratt all make good films
Indy should be one of the most enlightened characters in cinema history. He has had multiple incontrovertible supernatural encounters including the functioning ark of the covenant of the Christian faith, Shiva's priest removing hearts from bodies with no surgery and who knows what else in his other adventures. He is aware of the existence of deities or supernatural beings. He should be a spiritual rock with an unshakable faith, he should inspire others to act with virtue and integrity because he conclusively knows that there is life after death and that he is blessed by angels.
Oh, and I forgot the holy grail. He should speak to the divine every day and spread the good word with quiet confidence, because he's had proof of divinity. Even in his darkest hour he knows that he is blessed. He would never be broken or depressed and could devote his life to the pursuit of joy, knowing that everything will be made well by the divine. Have the makers of this movie even seen any of the other films ?
woahhhh. slow down there cowboy. you expect hollywood to add depth to characters beyond superficial token call backs to previous events?
Seeing something supernatural does not mean you suddenly believe everything in the book is real. Yes there are supernatural things in the Indiana Jones movies but I'm pretty sure no god talked to him nor angels nor anything else. It was just men and magical artifacts.
The only proof he got is that magic exists and that there are magic artifacts around
@@marcogenovesi8570 oh, I agree that he wouldn't necessarily be a Christian or any other particular denomination. He has had other proof of supernatural in that the priest of shiva literally put his hand in Indy's chest. And the stories about the grail and the ark were proven absolutely true. So he knows for sure that the supernatural is very real and at least some of the stories are true. He was literally saved by angelic-like-beings from the Nazis at the end of raiders. He is not stupid and would be able to draw sensible inferences. He would most likely spend some time trying to figure out what were the logical conclusions from his limited but very real experiences. He would definitely believe in miracles and would have some sort of belief system that accounted for his life experiences, which would have to include some sort of story about the supernatural. He would be more spiritually aware than most people and would have wisdom beyond most mortal beings.
@@marcogenovesi8570 Indy was not facimg magic, he was facing gods actions, that 's not the same level, you''re wrong
@@sundogfarseer6070 what stories about the grail and the Ark were proven absolutely true? What we got is a wooden cup that can cure wounds and lengthen your life, while the ark is a cool-looking trinket that melts your face if you open the cover.
There is no other connection to anything else, for all we know they could be fake relics made by the evil guy of christianity aka satan. Also what about aliens, these artifacts can be equally be explained as alien artifacts.
Can I remind you that aliens were in the 4th movie btw
Keep in mind, each movie bomb does not just lose a huge sum of money for Disney. As Disney has been a past master of capitalizing on hits, as a failure, Disney loses the revenue from successful merchandising as well as reduced interest in park attendance. As Disney must pay for merchandising and having parks in advance, movie failures are all tripled. An occasional flop is expected, but this relentless drumbeat of failure is catastrophic. This doesn't even include the massive damage to the IP each huge failure inflicts.
Wish that disney could just crumble faster!
They are the only company I see that can train wreck so badly for over a decade and yet still continue to exist and further train wreck along... Seemingly exponentially worse each time...
Just die already...
As below as above.
They are too big. Nothing will stop them.
@@LordThomasPassion They are backed by all the money the Democrats embezzled from Covid.
@@LordThomasPassionnot necessarily.
Any giant will fall when a decent competitor comes along, and the gaint got too lazy. Happened to cars, comics and more.
I'm not saying disney is dead, but they're burning through their centuries of goodwill as a kid's company. People are already looking foward to their competitors more then them.
You know, in The Last Crusade when Indy tells the Panama Hat Guy: "That belongs in a museum!"
And PHG replies: "So do you!"
Well at least if he was, he'd be revered, respected, protected and restored regularly.
Night at the museum 4....thanks Disney
Shad Jones has said it all and he is 100% right.
Evie from Mummy and Marion Ravenwood from the OG trilogy were beloved for they earned it through their own actions, flaws, personality and challenges they had to overcome and that is something that Helena Shaw(Phoebe Waller-Bridge) will never do or be.
I think one of the reasons hollywood is so against judging people based on their character and instead on their appearance is because they have such vile and loathsome personalities
Hadn't considered that before, but it adds up.
Like the outrage farming conservative reviewers? I agree^^
Cope, seethe, dilate
They don't want people to judge based on appearance either clearly or they wouldn't have pick PWB to be the lead. Lol.
The real crime here is not a big stinker bomb of a movie or show we can just ignore and pretend doesn't exist. The real crime is that in many cases, this is the last time we can hope to get stars like Harrison Ford, Leonard Nimoy, Mark Hamill, Carrie Fisher and Warwick Davis among others to saddle up and reprise roles. They can be recast or perhaps video faked, but the precious, unrecoverable chance for a final authentic performance has been lost. That I can neither forgive nor forget.
And who doesn’t love an adventure movie with history? I always hate it so much when this happens to franchises, it seems like an old IP can never be brought back better than before. Only time I can think of this happening is puss in boots 2
With the likes of Kathleen Kennedy and Phoebe Waller-Bridge behind the project, who could have seen this coming?
Oh, right. Everyone.
Its cause she’s a woman hm? Come on, admit it
Sadly not everyone. There are reviews here on YT that are somehow praising this abomination with healthy support in the comments. Critical thinking is largely non existent for the average western nation human.
@@tamaralocksmith4988 What is a woman, mate? Define it first, then we'll talk.
@@tamaralocksmith4988
In the wise words of Angry Maximillian himself, “That’s Bait.”
Woke feminist agenda rammed down our throats!
Disney is the Hollywood Bud Light.
Hollywood is absolutely obsessed with either killing off or divorcing beloved couples from the original movies they make these stupid “sequels” for. It pisses me off and their disgusting fanfics will never be cannon.
Are you guys still mad over Leia and Han breaking up? And you thought we were the sensitive onea
Killing off white males, or recasting them as non-white is their group psychosis. Can’t replicate the boundless awesomeness of white men in the real world, so to satisfy their insecurities, they destroy or disfigure any representations of them in cinema, history, education, or TV. It’s really a sub-plot that they didn’t include, that actually expands on their own dark characters and they aren’t aware the rest of us are seeing it.
@@tamaralocksmith4988When they character assassinated the three main characters of the Star Wars OT they should have expected the entire fanbase to turn on them.
@@tamaralocksmith4988if you’re not mad about it then you have no sense of romance in you at all. Sad, really
@@tamaralocksmith4988 Ah yes, "you call us sensitive, therefore you cant disapprove of anything ever".
Honestly hurts my feelings that this was the final Indy film. Despite what you think about kingdom of the crystal skull it had a good ending and ended the series properly in a way that he deserved
What a time to be alive when Crystal Skull is used as a positive example of an Indiana Jones movie
This isn’t the final Indy film. Because it’s not an Indy film. This is just another bad fanfiction from Disney. Suckleen Fuckeddy was involved, nothing she’s associated with is any more than a bad fanfiction.
@@TheOriginalCFA1979femfiction. These people aren’t fans.
The ending to the Last Crusade was better. Indy, his father, and his friends ride off into the sunset with every possibility that he goes and gets Marion back and lives a full and happy life.
They should have kept that ending.
cut the alien stuff out and cut a bit more from the shit bad stuff out and throw more smaller things and mystery in and yep this cna be seen as a ok indi film. but the end end yep was ok.
The last scene of Indy and his father riding off in the sunset in Crusade is the ending of his story for me. Happy ending that is well deserved. The writers today just don't want strong characters like Indy who has deserved the fruits of their labor.
The story ends with Indy finally marrying Marion at the end of Crystal Skull.
I like the story ending with Indy marrying Marian at the end of Crystal Skull. His son Mutt is there and they are all happy. The Dial of Destruction blasts that happy ending all to bits.
So true! That ending was beautiful, it's exactly where the story ends for me too.
Think of how well a Short Round appearance would have been received!!! Phoebe Waller-Bridge is a typical upper middle-class over-privileged English woman - and I say that as a lower middle class British woman. This recent trend is elder-abuse!!! My Dad is 89 next month and he's the coolest person I know! Shad, you have an awesome set, by the way!
No Tine For Love, Doctor Jones!!!
Lady your comment made me so happy!!
Truth from someone who lives there and can yell.
@@narusawa74 Can't say that I found Flea Bag very relatable to be honest...
PWB is no spring chicken herself.
Indy "I am Indiana Jones."
Pheobe: "No, you're a thief, capitalist, white male."
Shortround: "Hey, lady, you call him Doctor Jones."
That would have been great to have the Chinese kid tell off this white privileged female.
Dear KK. When I see the amount of spite you have for the works of Lucas and Spielberg on display in your own works, I'm reminded of a beautiful quote from a vastly underrated film. If I may paraphrase it, "May future generations be as spiteful of your works as you were of others."
"How did the villain die?"
" ..by his own incomptence...?"
Yikes, thats one helluva villain man! Maybe he should have just retired instead...
What comptence do you expect from a nazi who tried to time travel?
To be fair, although this new film is garbage, villains dying because of their own hubris is kind of a staple of Indiana Jones. Thr Nazis in the first film and Donovan in the third film both cause their own deaths. Only Mola Ram from the second film is directly killed by Indiana Jones (with the divine aid of Shiva).
It worked for Borderlands.
I cant believe Disney bangs on about female role models, and they give us Helena, seriously? They want her to be a role model for kids? Are Disney crazy?
PWB is as much of a role model as a Barbie Doll. Both are pretty plastic and one dimensional.
Yes, they are. Since a long time ago. You should have known that by now.
Disney is making Cruella 2, the villain from 101 Dalmatians who wanted to make a coat from puppies.
So yes, Disney is crazy.
Helena is disgustingly anti-Capitaliat.
It's fitting that this movie should lose all the money and go deep into debt.
Disney too.
They have proclaimed that that's how they want it through her vile character.
She was horrible and narcistic. That is no good rolemodel. Disney don´t know what they are doing
She claims to be all those awesome things including self sufficient and resourceful.
Complains that Indy didn't help her when her dad died
I don’t need a man!
Why weren’t you there for me!
@@jer3887that's the equivalent of saying, hey I don't need air....but if u excuse I'm about to breath it in because I need it
Her character DOES need a man. To mock and belittle. Without that she has no motivation. Like a parasite.
You know that line in the Avengers where Tony Stark is describing himself as a billion dollar playboy philanthropist while in an argument with Steve Rogers? That was him intentionally playing up his ego while getting into a dick waving competition with Steve, Phoebe Waller-Bridges characters spouts the kind of bullshit a writer puts on paper to make a character sound cool despite that not being the case at all.
She's just plain bad, but the writers desperately want you to think otherwise.
Tony had a redemption arc. I presume Helena was also supposed to get her own trilogy and a redemption arc, but that would require both her and the writers to admit that she was wrong.
This movie should have been a spin-off with Mutt and Short-Round with it ending as a bedtime story told by Indiana Jones to his grandson and granddaughter as Mutt finally returns home from the Vietnam War.
Say what you want about Crystal Skull but that movie at least gave Indy the happy ending he truly deserved, now it’s simply gone in the wind with Mutt being dead, Marion divorcing him and the insufferable narcissistic girl boss that is Flea-Bag ending up as the real hero since Indy just wants to be left in the past to die alone… exactly like a certain Skywalker that we all once knew.
Bro ty for respecting the franchise more than these “professional writers” honestly your story is what is needed
Dawg, that actually sounds awesome!
Robot Head actually proposed something like that plot in 30 seconds. He basically proposed Indy living happily with Marion and teaching archeology to students, and then he gets called in for help by Mutt. Mutt had been globetrotting the world and looking for artifacts just like his father alongside his mentor. But the mentor is in trouble and Mutt needs Indy to come in to help. The Mentor's name? Short Round.
Dude your one sentence concept idea had more heart and thought than the writers put into the new film.
Problem: Everyone is killing off all their Shia LaBeouf characters offscreen because he's a woke dick and thus both insufferable and poison to work with.
Can I just say that I love the fact that Nathan is still around. Aside from Shad himself of course, he is the most constant team member after all this time.
Elsa from -Crusaders of the Lost Ark- The Last Crusade was an actually attractive femme fetale. Her helping Indie and then doing a sudden but inevitable betrayal is a great part of that film
From what I hear of Phoebe Waller Bridge, she's the epitome of mid and her actions make no sense.
"Crusaders of the Lost Ark" I think you mean Last Crusade. Raiders of the Lost Ark was the first film.
@@mr.battle20 ... I had a feeling I should have googled it to double check, rip me
Hell, Crusaders of the Lost Ark Redux would have been better than this horrible piece o' shite!
What does her being “actually attractive” has to do with her being a better character?
@@tamaralocksmith4988 Gives more credence to the idea she could dupe seduce both Indie and his father, at least
At least the previous movie respected the character: this is such an awful way for Indy to go out.
At least it didn't have some poisonous agenda driving it. It was corny nonsense, but whatever. Still better than this tripe.
The most Aussie Shad has ever been in the get-up. 👌🏽😂
Shad Dundee
Shad Jones.
Shad Irwin. lol
After seeing Indiana Jones being reduced to an old fart who can't even carry his franchise over a girlboss, that fridge scene from Crystal Skull doesn't seem so bad anymore lol.
It never was bad.
Besides, the mythology around the Crystal Skull is more believable since it's basically a play on the urban legend that aliens helped build ancient civilization.
I'm Greek, and I cannot recall any legend or myth that says that my people invented time travel in the ancient times.
This made me realize that Shad isn't dressed as Indiana Jones.
Indiana Jones dresses like an Austrailian.
Correct and he acts Aussie, too.
The original fedora from Raiders was based on an Australian model.
I liked the concept of the film, the mcguffin, fighting Nazis, treasure… but HELEN… that character made me upset every time she opened her obnoxious mouth. The disrespect she shows to Indiana Jones is so toxic. And whoever wrote that character thinking that she is cool or the “next indy” wants to wage war with Indy fans and is a mockery.
As a woman , Im fed up of all hot and masculine man to be replased by "strong independent woman who needs no man" like excuse me! My life is already full of tjis shit that woman need to be this and that so hollywood plz let me have my movies
Woman here. I agree. While we can have good female heroes, I NEVER liked the idea of destroying men in order to have female heroes. I like damsels in distress being rescued by the men. I like strong hot masculine men, and I don't want a woman trying to pass herself off as a man!! 😠😠
@XiaoFury This! There is already huge library of strong female characters and we still need those strong men to save us every once in a while and it dosnt take No once independence away, they are movies not documentaries FFS
Guy here. My favorite female character of all time was the one that Katheryn Hepburn played in the African Queen. Strong female character that acted like a lady. Princess Leia too. She kicked ass, but never acted like a man. Dr. Ross from the movie Congo too!
I hate the modern "I'm a KICK ASS WOMAN" films nowadays.
I remember making "I belong in a museum" jokes back in 2008.
At this point Ford should be in a cave telling people if they chose poorly or wisely.
Love the cosplay Shad, looks great. Too bad this movie clearly didn't look great
It could be worse. Librarian's was always a bad Indiana Jones clone.
There are only 3 Indiana Jones movies. They haven't made one since 1989. Indiana Jones is an example of why the 80s were the best decade in filmmaking.
There was a decline in quality in the 90s but it still had a good amount of decent films. But the 2000s had a steeper decline with less amount of nice films still. The 10s were pretty bad with only a few stand-out films, and the 20s are starting to look like the worst decade in film history if this keeps up.
Even the Lego one 😂
This is a pretty accurate assessment.
90s still has some enjoyable, memorable films ..and then 2000s had a few less ..2010s/20s seems to be riding off of the steam of films from the 90s and 2000s that were actually good.
@@VilifiedOne I haven't played an Indiana game since SNES, but I've heard about this with other movies as well. Apparently, there was a Ghostbusters game that was the true 3rd film.
@@VilifiedOneWhat about Fate of Atlantis?
There are four Indiana Jones films. Denying Crystal Skull is what got us to this point in the first place.
The luck thing for Indiana has always been a thing, however, it is normally sprinkled in as comedic. Like crusade when the horn goes through the train and just misses Indie. Sounds like they just make every situation like this which does ruin the story.
Watching Shad and Nate mentioning these events in the movie I thought "Ok, that sounds kind of like what happenes in an Indiana Jones movie sometimes. And that too."
Maybe what we all here seem to like about the famous three Indiana Jones movies is when it's applied like icing on a cake as opposed to burrying a puny little cake in a heap of icing or so. Maybe the producers & writers are just not great at bakery 😄
To be fair Indie wanting to stay in the past would be the dream of any archeologist. To live through history and possibly leave an accurate record of it for future generations to find later in a spot he KNOWS would be unearthed at a later time.
And I thought the rumors were they went back to re-edit the movie and made Phoebe Waller-bridge less annoying. Either that was false or the previous edit of this movie was very very bad! 😆
I don't plan on seeing the movie, but the way I'm seeing it Phoebe Waller-Bridge's character is the real villain of the movie. Since they made the movie all about her, the movie should have been titled Helena Shaw and the Dial of Destiny.
Remember when characters who betrayed Indy quickly ended up impaled on spikes?
2:40 Eve from the Mummy on the other hand...
- I'm... a librarian!
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In the 2200 years since Archimedes, "continental drift" would have moved points all of 180 feet.
Not to mention every location that maters to the plot being on a single plate anyways: They'd all drift to the same point!
They didn't de-age Ford. They deepfaked original footage of his face onto a different actor. De-aging is what they did with De Niro in The Irishman. He was present in each scene, and they basically just removed the wrinkles, which looked weird.
They did de-age Indy, you can clearly see the hair is CGI.
There is a point in the movie where she tells Indy he’s a grave robber something he’s never done, but she sells on the black market lol
1:03:00 They 100% have never seen the original trilogy. "Archaeology is the search for fact... not truth. If it's truth you're looking for, Dr. Tyree's philosophy class is right down the hall." - Dr. Jones lecturing in Last Crusade.
Repeat after me, there are three Indiana Jones movies.
I immagine that tng scen but picard just reponds "yeah" in a bewildered tone. There are only the indiana jones movies in the federation
Phoebe's characters sounds like Burke in Aliens - betraying the other characters for monetary gain. And look what happened to him. Poetic justice.
"So, I made a decision, and it was wrong. It was a bad call, Ripley. It was a bad call."
Here's a crazy idea. Crystal Skull was awful but it did introduce us to Indy and Marion's child, Mutt and saw Indy finally marrying Marion. Let's imagine a prestige series, ala Young Indy TNG: Mutt is attending classes at University, perhaps even one taught by his Dad where he is working his way to an archaeology degree. Mutt isn't a gifted academic, he might even have a touch of dyslexia, but he's toughing his way through. Mutt still has his bike shop where he sleeps in a small back room. This gives an excuse to constantly be having gorgeous vintage bikes in various states of disassembly wandering through the background. He visits his parents from time to time, maybe for Thanksgiving Dinner. People still come to Indy with their problems despite his advanced age. Indy has a something, and needs to be hospitalized, the mission has to go, he calls on Mutt. Mutt goes off to solve whatever the problems is/find the lost artifact/steal the military secret/etc. There could be one or more beautiful good girls back home who help Mutt in school and beautiful/dangerous girls in the world maybe a Soviet agent and/or some sort of rival agent from business/other academic institutions etc. Lots of globe trotting in the fifties and sixties, kind of Indiana Jones meets Mad Men. Probably would have to recast Shia. I think it could do well.
I"d watch this. I WON'T watch the dreck they just released.
Except officially Mutt is dead.
@@rcrawford42 Dial of Destiny is a fever dream of an Indy suffering from a Malaria attack he got while running from headhunters in South America.
This might be a good pitch except for the fact that they cast Shia fucking Lebeouf as Mutt, and I for one refuse to watch anything that guy produces or participates in on principle.
@@daethalion1725 I pointed out they might need to recast Mutt.
Thank you, sirs, for suffering through this malarky. Great job, as always! It sounds as if the punch for Indie near the end was actually aimed at us, the viewers. "You can't live in the past, no matter how much you want to. We'll drag you into the future of film... with us. Mwa ha ha."
Even if his son died in war his wife would not left him for Mutt getting drafted. He would have done everything for her because she's his only true love and would have supported her through this and them being so old the only people they have is each other. So BS on the divorce of people in their 80's not a thing.
Be happy with the ending we got. According to the certain sources, the studio filmed 6! endings, one with Indy surviving, all the other ones wanted the "Star Wars replacement" route.
Indiana Jones freaking out over bugs is just insane writing. Insane.
This movie sounds like a relative going up to your 90+ year old grandparent, slapping them hard on the back, giggling when they fall off balance, and then they get upset that you don't find it as funny as they do....
Thank you for suffering for my entertainment.
Yes, thank you. I don't even watch this Disney sh*t anymore. I appreciate the meta-story of the fall of Disney, and the humour of hearing about their incompetence in movie making.
Sounds like the writers used the ‘and then this happened’ method vs the ‘this happens because of’ method
Thank goodness there are only three Indiana Jones films.
Top 5 most insufferable characters (in no particular order):
1. Brie Larson's Captain Marvel
2. Morffyd Clark's Guyladriel
3. Tatiana Masley's She Hulk
4. Mindy Kaling's Velma
5. Pheobe Waller Bridge's Helena Shaw (Indy 5)
You made me want to rewatch the whole saga. All 3 movies.
All 4 movies.
From what I hear, there were loads of reshoots and alternates of the movie and the editors had to cobble together a new version at the last minute because Disney vetoed the original version where Indiana Jones was retconned out. It's really no wonder there were so many plotholes in that patchwork mess
It would explain why the time travel seems to inconsequential in this movie.
There are only three Indiana Jones movies.
Hmm, I recognize you Raptorian...
Three movies and a point and click adventure game.
@@cormoran2303 two point and click adventure games: Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade: The Graphic Adventure, Indiana Jones and the Fate of Atlantis
@@luxalba1731Lego?
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Note that this was at least the 3rd or 4th variation of the movie. The original plot had her changing everything he did in his life, and replacing him entirely in the end after he dies.
I bet they saw the Mac character from that Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Broken Skull movie and thought, HEY wouldn't that make a GREAT hero character? Then someone said, "Only if it were a female."
Anyone remember Terminator 2? Remember the scene where the T-1000 is sprinting after John Connor while he's on a BIKE?
They kept having to reshoot that scene, because Robert Patrick kept CATCHING HIM. ON FOOT!
But no, they just can't catch this woman in HEELS.
I want to once again take a moment to thank you guys for being the metaphorical canary in the coal mine for the rest of us. Thank you for sparing me the heart- and wallet ache this movie would no doubt have caused me, and providing an almost as long piece of media that was probably far more entertaining and far less rage-inducing.
I remember reading an article mentioning Luke's death in TLJ before I had a chance to see it. Was a real, "Wait, WHAT?" moment, but I'm glad I didn't have to witness that defilement- which sadly proved to be the first of many in the following years.
I totally buy the rumor that Indy 5 was planned to end with Past-Indy taking a bullet for Present-Indy and Phoebe-Waller Bridge taking up the mantle of Indiana Jones in history, putting on the fedora, reliving clips of the other Indy movies, and doing a more "strong female character" job than Indy ever did.
Phoebe’s character represent’s Disneys plan to rob the happiness of older generations memories.
Text book character assassination... I just really hope we can stop doing this to our beloved franchises
"we"?
Very telling that the most entertaining aspect of Disney productions is watching various channels crap all over them as they flop and lose the company a fortune 🤣
It's important to note that in all previous movies (even crystal skull 🤢) the villian is defeated not by Indy, but by forces they thought to control. The Ark, the stones, the grail (real or fake,) the skull - all were what defeated them. Indy was merely a witness.
Deus ex machina is kind of a theme. The deviation is that they took religious symbols, faith, and the mystical out, replacing the supernatural with science fiction. Indy is pulp adventure, like Doc Savage or the 90s Mummy.
This is becoming less The Mummy and more Wolfenstein or the Hellboy movie.
In an episode of Big Bang Theory, Amy ruins Rauders by pointing out that the plot would have progressed to the same conclusion without Indy; nothing he did in the course of the film would have had any effect on the outcome.
@lordpuki1375 I've seen it. The counterargument is that it wasn't the point. All the artifacts are mcguffins. The point was to teach the characters that the characters that some things are beyond the control and understanding of mortals. That the traditions existed for a reason. Indy respected that and survived. The others didn't and suffered for their hubris.
We all know KK would have preferred to call this "[PWB's character] and the Dial of Destiny", but had to abuse Indy for it.
“Thats capitalism”….the writers could not have been fcked to google the definition before writing that line lol
The Helena charactor played by Phoebe Waller Bridge had very little EMPATHY so most people are not going to find such a person as endearing. Aside from that, there were just so many things wrong with this story. So sad, it could have been awesome.
Well I'm not going to watch this movie,but Mutt being killed in the Vietnam war is ridiculous to me. He was 19 in 1957 year Crystal skull took place. The draft did not start till 1969. It would have been 31. Now if they make the explanation he joined the service that's another story, but still he would have had the been one of the first ones in Nam as an observer or whatever they call them before they started really pouring troops in.
There are only three Indiana Jones movies, the other two are mistakes
One is a mistake. The other sounds more like a crime...
Time for a abortion.
My favorite part was when that woman exclaimed to Indy that she was beautiful. I laughed out loud at that point.
What's crazy is they keep doing this to beloved, well-known franchises... For who though? Like who is this for? If this is supposed to shift the "indiana Jones fanbase" to female viewers then I don't think this is resonating with them like they thought. Everyone can see just how bad the writing is and how it's destroying these franchises, but they continue to do it...
It's not for anyone in particular . It's against someone in particular.
They told you in The Last Jedi: "let the past die, kill it if you have to". If the past is destroyed, you are no longer grounded, and theoretically easier to manipulate.
I had to look up when Indy was born after the old comment. Indy was 3 when the Wright brothers did their first flight. He is that old.
It was only 60 years between first flight and moon landing.
Well, supposedly in the original script that was even worse, young Indie was killed off near the end and the female had to go back and do all the things he did so she literally replaces him.
"Middle-aged librarian" That is a perfect description!
With this, Lucasfilm now has its final death.
Actual Death: The Last Jedi (Star Wars)
Funeral Party: Willow D+ Show (Willow)
Final Death: Dial of Destiny (Indiana Jones)
to be honest they are just parading a dead body by strings at this point
The Dial of Destiny is very fitting on a meta level. It was destined to be exactly what we would expect it to be. Annoying young know-it-all brunette takes over movie? Yup. Indy made to look like an old fool? Of course.
That hat suits Shad perfectly.
Not Indy has a similar style to not Han; both have a loving wife and child (we assume Han does or otherwise will at the end of RoTJ, Indy at least is shown directly), both drop from grace off screen, both basically are getting divorced after a tragedy with their child, both get outshone by a younger attempt at a facsimile of themselves in their final movie.
Han gets killed by his son. Indy’s son is killed off screen and is nearly killed several times by his replacement.
I guess Lucasfarts really took the old meme of Han and Indy being the same to heart.
Shad looking good in his cosplay! I think I'll be watching the Last Crusade again instead. I feel so bad for Harrison Ford. Why do they keep destroying his characters!
To quote Disney: "Let the past die. Kill it if you have to."
They refuse to let the past die (because of remakes), so they end up killing it (through ideological revisions).
Don't waste your energy on Harrison Ford. Do you think he cares about "his" characters? He got paid, and - based on interviews he's done - that's all he seems to care about.
Indy getting freaked out by bugs? Didn't they see Temple of Doom?!
Indy in Crystal Skull wasn't scared of bugs either, let that sink in.
Harrison Ford really never understood what it meant to be an iconic character. He has let them all slip away from him.
It’s just a job to him. He’s said that several times. Doesn’t care about social significance or deeper meaning.
@@erroneous6947 Its a bit sad really. But everyone has their own way through life. But it really is unfortunate he does not feel any greater significance to the iconic characters he has helped bring to life. I won't fault him for seeing it his way though.
Well, he does like Indy, at least a lot more than Han (who he hates), but money is more important to him; if he gets paid, he'll do it
You have to ask
That exactly where did the 300 million dollars go?
Cos they only spent 5 bucks on the story and plot !
It should have been called Febbie Wallace and the dial of the narcissistic feminists
Operation Paperclip was a thing. We hired their scientists by the boatload. The stupid part is thr movie assuming we'd hire an archeologist to help us with our rockets when we hired the actual rocket guys.
23:50 Of course he lives in a tiny apartment after a divorce. Leonard McCoy "Bones" from Star Trek said it best. "The ex-wife took the whole damn planet in the divorce. All I got left is my bones."
31:10 I figured it out Shad... disney is making films in hopes of hearing you cuss. Stay strong.
Funny thing is Sky Captain was actually good with CGI sets because it gave the film a very specific dream like feel that fit with the movie. That isn't what most films try to do so they look awful.
I liked that movie, visually at least.
I haven't seen the movie, but my problem from the trailers alone was having Harrison Ford take a main role. It would have been way cooler if he took a wisened mentor role, and if the main character had to go to him for help.
That self insert is Kathleen Kennedy.
There were three Indiana Jones movies, and there are still only three Indiana Jones movies.
That ending was 100% reshot. That’s why it feels so abrupt.
1:04:00 is basically the clip "If fish can live underwater, then so can I. *drowns in pool* "