His Knees Were So Terrifying NO ONE Would Fight Him - Dieselnoi Explained
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- Опубліковано 22 тра 2022
- Dieselnoi Chor Thanasukarn dominated the Golden Era of Muay Thai. His Knee Style of fighting terrified everyone, to the point where everyone refused to fight him.
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Sylvie's channel and your channel are my absolute favorite for martial arts breakdowns. The amount of knowledge available on her channel (and especially the website) is astonishing. I'm so thankful for the time she spent with Namkabuan (rest in eternal love and peace). ❤️🙏❤️
I bought a book on muay Thai boxing while I was in Thailand. Thanks to you, I now know who some of these fighters are.
Do a video on who would win. The king of knees, or the elbow hunter of 100 stitches
When kun khmer video?
Thank for such a great edit, and doing justice to Dieselnoi. Great study.
Thanks for creating, maintaining, and sharing the library. You've done so much for the sport and history.
Yes, thank you, Sylvie for all that you have done for those old fighters from the "Golden Age." You have even inspired both Samart and Dieselnoi to track down older fighters from their time and before their time to bring them back into the picture. Without you, (and your husband,) and your hard work, they could have easily been forgotten. Don't give up!
His name mean little diesel
Gosh I hope there are eventually some collabs between these channels.
What a job you have, we can only dream of, thank you verymuch
Sylvie's video library project is legitimately a gift to future generations.
So many of the recordings of fights from the golden era are lost, having been recorded over or simply not preserved, so her collecting a repository of the living golden era Nak Muays demonstrating their style is invaluable
I agree. We're lucky to have her. Sylvie's passion for MT is immense
It truly is a one of a kind library!
I appreciate the support Lance!
Not many are appreciating her work. She's doing it while also meeting all these legends and recieving all these great tips and instructions to build her own "perfect" style. Magnificent.
Not only has her work inspired and informed so many, she has literally given life back to a lot of old Thai-Boxers who were almost forgotten.
Retired when nobody wants to fight him while having sagat and samart in the same era is definitely something
"Sky-Piercing Knee" is such an incredible fighter nickname.
I feel like Charles Olivera takes a lot of the approaches outlined here, being one of the few MMA fighters to still use teeps/plum holds because his BJJ lets not worry about take downs. So he can use the classic long and short range Muay Thai weapons. Also, IIRC he has pretty good knees of his own (for MMA).
Hes the only ufc fighter actually incorporate muaythai into his style
@@cazzellg8183 werdum
He's the only prominent fighter left from Chute Boxe Academy (Anderson Silva, Wanderlei silva, shogun, Gabriel Gonzaga all trained there at some point) so I like to view Charles as a hybrid and an evolution of the style. Just like the video, Charles uses similar aggressive tactics to make sure he's always pressing forward, even against counter fighters like gaethje, because his tools can make them uncomfortable as long as he is still marching them back. Even just the fact that he uses a teep AT ALL makes him surprisingly unusual, but it's a perfect tool for pushing back. I think his style would fall apart if he actually feared the takedowns, but considering it's his safety zone now, he can rely on that hyper aggressive hybrid muey Thai until he either gets a knockdown, gets knocked down, or someone is desperate enough to shoot a takedown against the record holder for most submissions, and (aside from Tony decision win) a man on like a 10 fight finish streak. Do Bronx is truly a treasure
Little Miss Gangster Knee is almost as good...
Yeah it's a good ring fighting strategy. If you aren't worried about takedowns.
Being 6'2" and 135 lbs while keeping athleticism and strength is downright freak like.
For real. I'm 6'5". If my body weight starts dropping below 180 all my joints feel like he'll and I feel SUPER weak
damn imagine being forced into retirement because literally no one wants to fight you... thats true dominance right there
My favorite Muay Khao fighter Dieselnoi. I noticed he focuses on destroying you with knees over sweeps in the clinch like in the modern era.
YES. My favorite breakdown channel covers one of my favorites Muay Thai fighters of ALL time. You , Sylvia, Lawrence Kenshin , Muay Thai Scholar are pretty much the reason I consider myself more ‘educated’ than the average fight fan when it comes to Muay Thai especially. Thank you for covering truly one of the best in Sky Piercing Knee 🙏
And such a good guy. The video's Sylvie made with him were gold. Thanks for pointing out this legend. I really enjoy your video's.
You have great technique breakdowns. You even taught my 75 year old dad a thing or two about Rocky Marciano.
i beleive vicharnoi is the only guy who defeated him twice, could ypu do a breakdown on him with the little footage we have of him ?
yes he even stated vichannoi was as smart as samart but the difference was that vichannoi had power
Yup that dude is a legend. He even kept fighting at the top even past his prime which is why he got the nickname "The Immortal Fighter".
Would love to see a Wichannoi breakdown. Dieselnoi called him his "teacher in the ring" and had the utmost respect for him.
Wow, that’s high praise. Now I really hope he does a breakdown of Wichannoi. Your channel is great by the way. I’ve been watching your channel for well over 10 years, and you’ve really been an inspiration in keeping up with my training, so thanks for that
No offense to Samart, Saenchai and Somrak but I think Vicharnnoi is better than them. Just like Samart, we can't find any videos of Vicharnnoi in his prime. From what I've heard about Vicharnnoi, he beat Dieselnoi twice while the former is past his prime. I do believe the great things Dieselnoi had said about Vicharnnoi since Dieselnoi is honest and has no ego plus he is incredibly knowledgeable about Muay Thai. I have watched a few videos about past prime Vicharnnoi and he does seem like in his prime he could be as skilled as Samart, Saenchai and Somrak but Vicharnnoi's power is evidently greater.
Sylvie does the most and deserves the most!! Thank you for plugging her and continuing to make exceptional content!
Fantastic video as always. You don't realize watching videos of him kneeing people into unconsciousness how cerebral his style was. It's great he likes to share his knowledge.
Sylvie is such a indispensable source for Martial Arts UA-cam. Thankful for her! She herself is a Muay Khao technician!
Sylvies work is beyond incredible. Those techniques, strategies, even philosophies of the 80’s and 90’s era are honestly invaluable.
If not for her, they would literally just fade away (as they have been).
Thanks for promoting it and her in this breakdown of my one of my favorite Yod Muay ever
These videos really make me appreciate how complexed and nuanced fighting is. This one particularly because it had some techniques I’m completely unfamiliar with. That check from below to the bottom of the calf is just brilliant. There’s always so much to learn. Thank you David
This guys long armed clinch is like a preying mantis. This guy was a real apex predator. Thanks for the breakdown and mad respect to him.
Thank you Sylvie, thank you Dieselnoi and big thanks to the chanel that keeps on exceeding itself in presentation quality and content.
Thanks for bringing more content of Sylvie's into the channel, they are very educational videos and really help to appreciate Muay Thai legends
grateful for Sylvie sharing such important footage. These golden age Thai fighters are not only important in Muay Thai but in combat sports as a whole, absolutely grateful to see this
Thank you for another great documentary Mr David. I know Silvie from a collaboration she did with Sean Fagan. Both are great athletes. Keep up the good work!
Thank you for this wonderful documentary about a legend. Great work.
There are two big counters to arguments that Dieselnoi only succeeded because of his height: 1) He himself asks why there aren't many other tall Muay Thai champions if height is such a dominant advantage. 2) More strikingly, the fact that a petite woman like Sylvie who has to regularly fight above her weight class is able to work in his techniques shows they work for any size fighter. She doesn't have his dominant win streak, but bigger opponents absolutely do not want to clinch Sylvie.
I came across Sylvies videos with Dieselnoi not long after I started Muay Thai in 2019 and his inspiration on my knee and clinch techniques shows. I'm a thinner lanky guy and my bigger friends who've held pads for my knees have described them as "an ab workout" and "it's like he knees right through the pad" and during sparring there's a palpable "Oh shit" moment anytime I get them into a clinch. Dieselnoi is a criminally unknown fighter among Western martial artists.
Thank you for highlighting such an amazing fighter who almost faded into obscurity if not for Sylvie. The man deserves better and I'm happy to see he's getting it.
He didn't face any fighter remotely close to his height so yeah... good luck trying to hit his face, he may not have super good punches but when he clinches you it's game over. Don't bs about weight and height not giving him any advantage.
@@lylemcdermott2566 that's been the philosophy of sport since the inception of sports...to have as many advantageous variables, whether it be strength, height, weight, speed, agility, stamina and so forth so forth.
It's like saying imagine if mike Tyson didn't have power, if Usain bolt didn't have speed, Michael Jordan didn't have accuracy. If defeats the whole notion and philosophy of sport as a whole entity.
Also, the Thai-Boxers from this day all said that his bones were rock hard. And they all attributed his success not to his height but his hard bones.
@@brothertonykjv you mean the hard bones on his knees? Get the f out with your bs. He doesn't even have to make effort to check kicks, he just lift his leg a little and his opponent is fucked and look at those front kicks damn...
@@lylemcdermott2566 I was just relaying what Thai-Boxers who fought him had to say about him. I fought in the early 90's, and the trainers that I had fought in the '80's. Quite a few of them fought against Dieselnoi; and being that I was a bit tall, though not as tall as him, I tried to copy his fighting style: but they trained me not to do so, as, according to them, it wasn't his height that made him special: it was his hard bones. So I was trained to fight a different way, though I was tall for my weight. Some people are more bony than others. It's all about using what you got.
Its rare to see a fighter who almost never punches
Yup. Most fighters that are much taller tend to still use punches, but Dieselnoi found a way to succeed without using them much.
He did Box once at Lumpinee Stadium, as most Thai-Boxers, especially back then, would Box, too; but he lost, as he wasn't a puncher at all. If my memory serves me correct, he only Boxed once.
He's an old school Muay thai. Before being exposed to Boxing, most Muay thai fighters didnt use punches. Why punches when knees are much more explosive and damaging, if landed correctly.
If you're a taller fighter it's really not that weird. It's good to use some to feint or make the opponent distracted, but just this weekend i've won a fight with basically no punching at all. Why would you punch when if you kick, he can't do anything.
Just amazing bro!! 👏🏼👏🏼 You're the best guardian of fight knowledge and video maker of all. No Shane's, no Gracies, no Krav posers, not even the Kenshin's ones or Rainy Daily Boxing (also really goods) you're the true master coach of techniques, strategy and history on multimedia transmission. Plus, you are the reason I don't have an analog channel, once I would never have something superior or better than yours to show up. CONGRATS! You rules 🙏🏼 On every single point: argument, text (the most rare to find really good one, because almost everybody tries to copy Joe Hogan's improvising), topics, montage, locution. You're not just a martial artist, you are a pedagogue and a communication media artist master! OSS ✊🏻💢
Thanks for the amazing coverage on amazing muay Thai legend
This is kinda perfect. Sylvie has nonstop goat content, but it's so long form that I rarely watch anymore. Absolutely amazing content, but time consuming. Summaries and breakdowns are clutch
What an excellent video of this awesome fighter. Thank you!
The hero we "Knee" right now!
Damn i think we need a video on sagat i didnt know he was based off a actual person
For real, I'd like to see a breakdown, but check out the link in the library to see a training session with Sagat.
Bro, he's probably top 3 all time in Muay Thai.
Estatura acima do normal dos tailandeses, não tirando nenhum mérito dele, mas sempre teve logo de partida, seu tamanho é força física como vantagem sobre os adversários.
A great breakdown. Definitely would love to see more breakdowns of legendary Muay Thai fighters weather modern or Golden Age
You’re like a free tactical coach, thanks for the channel man
Next, we demand a breakdown video of Vicharnnoi, the man who defeated Dieselnoi TWICE !!!!
PS: It's a shame that we didn't get to see Vicharnnoi Vs Samart , two GOATs of Muay Thai going at it
I'd give Vicharnnoi the edge and even put him above Samart as the Muay Thai GOAT. He is almost as skilled as Samart but with one hit knockout power. Vicharnnoi was still fighting on the top even when past his prime and even beat Dieselnoi twice. Samart held his own against Dieselnoi but still lost evidently.
When I competed in full contact being 1,89 (6,24ft) and 73kg (160 lbs) I already was a head above my competitors. I can't imagine weighting ten less kg than that, though; as soon as I built any muscle I instantly ramped up to 91+ kg.
Interesting. I'm 1.82 cm and weigh 65 kg.
@@brouwerification How old are you? If you're in your teens, this isn't at all unusual. I myself turn 20 this summer, and I'm 186 cm and 72 kg. If you don't go out of your way to eat at a significant calorie surplus, you'll stay skinny so long as you're still growing. (I realize that I may just have stated something laughably obvious.)
I'm 6'4 80kg but I cut to 75-76kg which is middleweight in amateur muay thai. Haven't lost a fight yet.
@@lucian5389 name?
@@lucian5389 all size bullying.
dieselnoi is one of my favourite muay thai fighters ever. I love the aura he has around him inside and outside of the ring, it's incredible!!
a pure pleasure to view again, to feel the moves, so simple yet working so well :)
This is great. Thank you for showing us this very interesting fighter. Muay Thai is always so hardcore, and I would never want one of those knees. And he used it as a great psychological weapon as well as bringing the pain. Awesome fighter. I wish I could find more.
Very nice explanation, thx for introducing this intelligent Fighter 🙏🏼
lets gooo thanks so much for making one on dieselnoi
I'm a 6 foot 5 muay thai fighter so I love it when people show the big D some love shoutout to the long Bois out there kicking it. Great video.
YES! More Muay Thai breakdowns plz!
Top content Christian, keep it up!!
You’re basically my Sensi how I learn from your videos.
The Dies!😆 I have to start paying more attention to this channel. Thank you for this😎
this is one of those videos im gonna have to watch again and again
Amazing content. Thanks man.
Amazing video 🙏 thanks.
Excellent, thank you.
1st clean knee I took to the ribs around 10 or 11 yrs old I was positive I had broke or ruptured something LOL . knees are devastating
Oh wow Sylvie too! Two legends
Soooo good, love it 👍
ALRIGHT!!! I love this cilab!!!
Good work man!
I like this method. It’s simple and effective.
Very informative thx!
I love your boxing videos!
What a Genius 👍 I learned alot from this video
Absolutely beautiful technique
Yo David love ur content keep it up hoping to see a Monzon vid soon
Can I just say that I have watched your videos for a long while now. I just truly took a look at your logo and I have to say that I saw 7 different combat areas for a martial artist or one aspiring to be a martial artist to train. Lol 😆 🤣 😂 😹 just a thought I wished to share. Great videos I wish you prosperity in the future
The legend of Muay Thai
Other 6'2 guys: "keep your distance and use your range, outbox!"
This dude: "Hold em down and just knee them in the f**king face from across the street"
Yo! I almost forgot about this dude, thanks for sharing.
Great video !!
More muay Thai breakdowns. Endless amount of fascinating fighters.
absolutely brilliant
Brilliant, I love those high IQ specialist fighters who are able to completely control where and how the fight happens
Great fighter! Thank you for tutorial!
this man is pure energy - there is no 80% with him.
All love to Sylvie!
He’s tall as far as Thai fighters go. I’m going to look him up. Thank you for this. 🙏🏻
Wow. What a master this guy was!
Legend stay blessed Diesel 🙏
that little diagram for the leverage move with them knees was perfect. can you apply that kind of diagram for punches too?
Just speacial too see love this vid and the fighter thank you 😊
I was like I've heard about him from Sylvie and then her clips come in and I'm like there we go.
He towered over his opponent's and had a flexible frame that gave him valuable power in the clinch...Retired at 25 from competition...Thanks for sharing the story of his life.
Very nice!
Excellent.
now thats one insanely unique style. i absolutly love the way he kicks the thight when getting kicked just to throw another knee into the ripcage :D
How badass is this guy with a name like Diesel.
Living Legend
I love the trainers face at 7:19 you can tell that lover shot hurt, yet he played it off with such a good poker face😂
My favorite Thai Fighter !
Great job breaking down what he did. That’s not easy to do.
Lordie, watching him knee someone is like watching someone get stabbed by a spear! Amazing!
The way he grips his wrists in the collar the is like a BJJ grip
So grateful for Sylvie!And what a nice tribute to Sky Piercing Knee himself. I dream of being able to train with him, even for a few hours.
Good stuff
That knee to the armpit with the overhook. Gold. Def trying g that
when it comes to clinch i was taught in canada, put your left or right hand on there face and push up on there jaw, this breaks there center of gravity then feed one arm between there hands to tie a single hand plum, then grab there other arm and pivot outwards deflecting it while feeding the other arm into a clinch, a clinch is a game of position
Shout out to Sylvie 💪🏿💪🏿💪🏿
Thank you!
Im a 6’6 muay thai fighter and this just added a new level to my game
Super interesting style
i would buy that or the earlier version, the movements and attacks and blocks are great, so much potential. It could have training sessions to boost power, speed, techniques, cardio etc, could see a Wai Kru Ram Muay as a background scene as you choose a fighter, each of the best and iconic fighters with the famous techniques could be special attack, techniques they are famous for could be a special move; Rodtangs, Buakaw, Liam Harrison, Ramon Dekker, Dieselnoi, Samart Payakaroon, Jan Plas, Rob Kaman, Ernesto Hoost, Ronnie Green, Andy Howson., "Saenchai", Namsaknoi Yudthagarngamtorn, Sagat Petchyindee, John Wayne Parr, Toby Smith, Nathan Corbett, Qiu Jianliang,Yi Long, Andrei Kulebin, Morad Sari, Toshio Fujiwara, Dany Bill, Jean-Charles Skarbowsky, Damien Alamos, Fabio Pinca, Kozo Takeda, Hiroki Ishii, Youssef Boughanem, Rafi Bohic, , Kaito Wor Wanchai, Peter Aerts, Rico Verhoeven, Jean-Charles Skarbowsky, Masato, Andy Souwer, Joe Schilling, Kevin Ross, Kaoklai Kaennorsing, Yodsanklai, Sagat Petchyindee and Sombat Sor, etc more wins build up a power bar, visit the world famous fight arenas and off course Rajadamnern Stadium, and Lumpinee , then go on a world tour; Madison Square Garden, o2 london, MGM Grand, Caesar’s Palace, Atlantic City Boardwalk Hall etc. Choose a trainer (kru), and see the damage on the fighters as the fight progresses - as you might have noticed I'm obsessed with the potential of this game, I have dreamt of it, you could have a special edition pack and have MMA or bare knuckle fighting... please game developers make this happen 🙏🙏🙏
Sensational
Him Vs Samart was awesome
Even for his current size, this guy still moves lighting fast. Just incredible how great of shape he still is in.
Oh you shout her out nice