BREAKING NEWS! - EVGA will no longer do business with NVIDIA

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  • @hellraserfleshlight
    @hellraserfleshlight Рік тому +246

    When a company with a reputation as good as EVGA breaks ties with Nvidia, it tells me something about Nvidia.

    • @jonathanoxlade4252
      @jonathanoxlade4252 7 місяців тому +3

      Time to to go intel gpus now I can't await for a 4080 equivalent of arc to happen amd is a console brand anyway they are gonna struggle against intel in the gpu market
      Be awesome to have a blue team only pc build that can do 4k at decent frame rates

    • @drip2007
      @drip2007 6 місяців тому

      amd is a very good brand still for the average gamer that values price to performance@@jonathanoxlade4252

    • @Shogoat1304
      @Shogoat1304 5 місяців тому

      @@jonathanoxlade4252that’s a weird take. Amd gpus have been competitive, and Intel with there insane marketing I’ll take my chances with amd.

    • @lilsoonerfaninmo
      @lilsoonerfaninmo 3 місяці тому +6

      ​@@jonathanoxlade4252 "AMD is a console brand"
      Bro, you could just say you don't want AMD. You don't have to spout complete nonsense as your reason for it

    • @ernestg.harveyjr7087
      @ernestg.harveyjr7087 Місяць тому

      i hope so. i informed the card fab dept head of the disgust with Nvidia and how A 4090 intel competitor would fly off the shelf especially if it was a bit cheaper lets PRAY! they see the fkn light

  • @tungstentaco495
    @tungstentaco495 Рік тому +235

    I was in the EVGA queue to buy a 3060. The email notification that I got (10 months later) to finally buy it went to my junk mail. So I didn't see it until a few weeks later. Contacted EVGA to ask to be put back into the queue. Instead they just put a 3060 into my cart right then and there. They were really awesome about the whole thing. Great vendor for graphics cards and will be missed.

    • @NobodyAwsum
      @NobodyAwsum Рік тому +15

      I'm expecting them to end up partnering with amd in the near future. I can't see them giving up in the GPU space completely.

    • @positrack99
      @positrack99 Рік тому

      LOL... yeah they had to get rid of that *^%&$

    • @tungstentaco495
      @tungstentaco495 Рік тому +5

      @@positrack99 The 12Gb of vram means the 3060 can take on certain computational memory hungry tasks that none of the 8Gb cards can. Which is exactly what I bought it for, so I'm happy with the purchase.

    • @crackwitz
      @crackwitz Рік тому

      he probably meant getting rid of *nvidia* :D

  • @samgregg
    @samgregg Рік тому +977

    I have owned GPUs from all sorts of AIBs and EVGA has been nothing but great to me. I had a 1080 die outside warranty and they replaced it at no charge and the support staff was so genuinely helpful. I have sworn by EVGA ever since. Really sad to hear this.

    • @killval849
      @killval849 Рік тому +46

      Wow outside of warranty? That's pretty excellent support, I must say.

    • @RGR465
      @RGR465 Рік тому +4

      They are all the same IMO . only shape and RPG is different.
      I always buy the cheapest , owning Gigabyte right now and it's fine

    • @Carpythesharky
      @Carpythesharky Рік тому +3

      Mind if I ask what time frame this is? I was burned so hard by their RMA program ~2008. I hope they're much much better now, but I haven't bought an EVGA product since my abysmal experience with them.

    • @samgregg
      @samgregg Рік тому +5

      @@Carpythesharky i think it was around 2 years ago this happened? Give or take a bit but certainly more recent than that. I have had several cards and PSUs since and its been smooth sailing.

    • @Carpythesharky
      @Carpythesharky Рік тому +3

      @@samgregg Nice good to know. I will explore a bit more. Glad everything is working out great.

  • @maolcogi
    @maolcogi Рік тому +405

    This makes me feel actual sadness. I would have never expected to feel this emotion about two companies cutting ties.

    • @TheCrimsonOwl
      @TheCrimsonOwl Рік тому +4

      I literally feel the same way. I was really thinking about my next card EVGA cause I’ve had such a good experience with them.

    • @Witcher58
      @Witcher58 Рік тому

      I won't give a damn if nVidia ever goes out of business, those greedy a*holes.

    • @ka0skontrol504
      @ka0skontrol504 Рік тому +2

      This is the same feeling that I had back in the day when BFG went out of business. I still have some of the merch.

    • @mikeg2491
      @mikeg2491 Рік тому +1

      @@ka0skontrol504 I don’t really have an opinion either way about evga but I do remember when 3dfx went under and voodoo cards went away, that was sad. I also missed Diamond TNT cards as well.

    • @MarginalCoyote
      @MarginalCoyote Рік тому

      @@TheCrimsonOwl you can still get one and use it like always…it’s just that they are not going to manufacture moving forward….. you are going to get full support for everything on the current ones

  • @THEBIGTFAF
    @THEBIGTFAF Рік тому +319

    I had a friend who had a defective card from EVGA, and man let me tell you to this day almost 10 years later my friend refuses to buy any other brand of graphics card. That customer service support was so on point👌

    • @michaelwillman5342
      @michaelwillman5342 Рік тому +52

      When dude had a dead card and ended up loving the company, you know they do it right.

    • @Magnum062
      @Magnum062 Рік тому +2

      I had the opposite. Returned my new 1060 within warranty after it randomly died. Returned without repair or replace because they said it smelled like cigarette smoke. Not even a smoker. Refuse to buy EVGA brand products since.

    • @tycanuck
      @tycanuck Рік тому +16

      @@Magnum062 Nice story.

    • @fam4sta611
      @fam4sta611 Рік тому

      I don't blame him. EVGA is a pleasure to work with. I don't currently own an EVGA graphics card but I do own other stuff but when I had a 970 I had problems twice and both times EVGA was tentative and understanding. Their communication is great and on point and every time I needed help, graphics card or other they always helped.

    • @stephencurah1059
      @stephencurah1059 Рік тому +1

      I can relate,top notch service

  • @LuciusVulpes
    @LuciusVulpes Рік тому +2601

    EVGA has been my go to GPU manufacturer for ages and I consider them a pretty good company. Basically the best for Customer Support too.

    • @DanKamYouKnow
      @DanKamYouKnow Рік тому +40

      Highly agree. I had to use their customer support for a few various things and their response time and actual process in getting it resolved was very quick and super easy. I have also used their Step-Up program before to upgrade my 3070Ti, and it took a total of 6 days from the time I shipped them my 3070Ti, to get my 3080, I was blown away! Such good customer service, as well as badass cards.

    • @2002nkpB
      @2002nkpB Рік тому +31

      Literally the best customer support. I briefly mentioned I was looking at MSI's cards instead and they pretty much fucking vault tech rep'd me and sold me a $950 GPU for $725.
      And back during 2018 during the first crisis I got a 1070 ftw off them for $400 by contacting them directly.
      I am genuinely upset.
      Edit: I forgot they also sent me a Tshirt and one of their keyboards for free.

    • @RaceSimCentral
      @RaceSimCentral Рік тому +3

      Was about to post exactly this.

    • @flexplodin
      @flexplodin Рік тому +7

      I've never needed computer support in my life, and I realize that EVGA is just a custom hardware assembly company. It is no insult to your loyalty, but a general sign that pragmatism is often overlooked in the short term. I value the technology more than the brand.

    • @BigYoshi826
      @BigYoshi826 Рік тому +26

      Good for EVGA leaving this abusive relationship. This reflects really well on them.
      That's why Jay is saying it feels like a divorce; it literally is ending an abusive relationship.
      Stop supporting abusers!

  • @sirkid8553
    @sirkid8553 Рік тому +74

    I respect EVGA for doing this. Honestly, I think this is a great move, as you mentioned, they did some amazing things with making GPUs in the past, and it shows how creative EVGA and their staff is, yet NVIDIA took that creativity away from their partners. Moving forward I think this will make EVGA design incredible things in the future. EVGA has the best warranty of any GPU maker and as others mentioned, this was the ONLY company during the shortage that did everything in their power to keep their prices down and to make sure everyone was able to get a GPU using their query system.
    I do like the Founder Editions by NVIDIA as they are very affordable and extremely well made, but as you mentioned NVIDIA was selling these much less than their partners and it takes away business from their partners.

    • @93ChayZ
      @93ChayZ Рік тому +1

      Very affordable? You got insane markup and price gouging mixed up with FAIR PRICES.

    • @FLAMEalan
      @FLAMEalan 9 місяців тому

      @@93ChayZfr, these Nvidia fans are goofy ash 😂

    • @BreezeOfDusk
      @BreezeOfDusk 4 місяці тому

      @@FLAMEalan Yeah thats right lol.

  • @Rillust
    @Rillust Рік тому +14

    WOW... I'm going to miss EVGA. They have been the only company I have used since building my own PC for the first time. Just sad.

    • @TheKizersoze13
      @TheKizersoze13 Рік тому

      Me too. 4 comps built and have only used EVGA

    • @Coolpachito
      @Coolpachito Рік тому

      They're not exactly going out of business just breaking with Nvidia

    • @Rillust
      @Rillust Рік тому

      @@Coolpachito I'm aware. I think you missed the point.

    • @Coolpachito
      @Coolpachito Рік тому

      @@Rillust Uh sure.

  • @mody1234
    @mody1234 Рік тому +395

    I am pretty sure EVGA was the only company that had the sign up program to guarantee yourself a card during the height of the pandemic and their customer service was incomparable against the other AIBs. It’s really sad to see this happening.

    • @vincentellsworth7905
      @vincentellsworth7905 Рік тому +19

      I disagree I think its a great thing for consumers to see an AIB finally take a stand against their shady business practices now both AMD and Nvidia know what can happen if they keep fucking around

    • @AlanJohnPeach
      @AlanJohnPeach Рік тому +17

      @@vincentellsworth7905 I think they mean its sad to see EVGA forced into it, not that their action is sad

    • @Cthooligan
      @Cthooligan Рік тому +3

      They had a program but it was hugely defective. I signed up for it and never heard back from them...to this day. Bought a 3080 from EVGA on my own a month ago.

    • @abrararifify
      @abrararifify Рік тому +13

      @@vincentellsworth7905 NVidia does not give two shits what AIBs do. They're pulling an Apple and eventually will plan to make all their GPUs in house. EVGA saw the writing on the wall and dipped.

    • @vincentellsworth7905
      @vincentellsworth7905 Рік тому +6

      Lmao well good luck to Nvidia then. Until they get their own foundry not even apple is completely integrated

  • @ACHILLESR32
    @ACHILLESR32 Рік тому +505

    10 out of the 11 gpus I have bought over the years were EVGA cards . I have to say I'm sad to hear this. Thank You EVGA for the amazing products and great support .

    • @flexplodin
      @flexplodin Рік тому

      That is a ton of cards.

    • @flexplodin
      @flexplodin Рік тому

      @@35mm21 If I bought by looks, I liked the Aorus the best which still costs 300 more than I paid for my FE that was paid for by a Zotac 2070 Super with a profit.

    • @flexplodin
      @flexplodin Рік тому

      @D I made money getting my card. Where there is a will, there is a way. I didn't scalp GPU's either.

    • @flexplodin
      @flexplodin Рік тому

      @@35mm21 How much support do you guys need? Is this a new user thing?

    • @flexplodin
      @flexplodin Рік тому

      @@35mm21 I've never had trouble with any warranties though I haven't had to use them for computer parts. This makes me wonder why EVGA has so many customer service groupies. Are their cards so prone to breaking that people are relieved that they honor their warranty? I truly am perplexed, but maybe it is all the kids trying to make computers???? Overclockers lying? Miner's running them into the ground? Not dusting?? I just don't get it.

  • @rmp5s
    @rmp5s Рік тому +1

    Used to use a buddy's machine back in the day because he had an EVGA GTX580 and it ROCKED. Always had good experiences with them.

  • @weedman0824
    @weedman0824 Рік тому +24

    Honestly feels like I should buy a 30 series card not only just to support them after supporting us for so long but to have something that was the last of it's kind

    • @alihaidar5787
      @alihaidar5787 Рік тому +2

      My 3080ti FTW3 just went up in price

  • @ff9813
    @ff9813 Рік тому +1362

    This is a phenomenal opportunity for AMD to reach out to EVGA and give EVGA the freedom to design their own AMD gpus. AMD can build a stronger relationship with AIBs and leverage a better, stronger gpu marketshare. I only have an Nvidia card because I wanted to get an EVGA. I'm sure there a lot of people that are in the same boat.

    • @jopa19991
      @jopa19991 Рік тому +63

      I don't think Sapphire would like this idea.

    • @ashc3765
      @ashc3765 Рік тому +16

      Amd already has enough board partners I don’t think they need anymore for there market share.

    • @hua..
      @hua.. Рік тому +41

      it seems like they are pulling out of the GPU market altogether though

    • @mrfarts5176
      @mrfarts5176 Рік тому +8

      I hope so. Amd needs to really hit it out of the park with rdna 3 and start delivering 1080p capable apus.

    • @mrfarts5176
      @mrfarts5176 Рік тому +7

      @@ashc3765 probably not but this would be a huge pr win. Take all the things that made them leave nvidia and flip every one of them.

  • @sijonda
    @sijonda Рік тому +603

    Hearing how EVGA has decided to handle themselves over the years, I've firmly decided I want to be a customer that looks to them for products first when I need something. Particularly how they've decided to not sell the company because they won't want some profit only people in control of the company.

    • @_spooT
      @_spooT Рік тому +21

      of course they wouldn't and that's a smart decision. Profit only people don't know shit about taking care of the company. They will just destroy everything through greed. It's been happening to many game company's and even businesses. yet here i am still not able to understand what makes idiot people like these still try their luck when they know greed doesn't get anything far

    • @weightlifting_socialist
      @weightlifting_socialist Рік тому

      Capitalism is at fault with so many things in society. Replace or evolve that into everyone benefiting instead of a tiny minority of morbidly wealthy that pay people below them millions to spout their lies. We could already live in a world with no money, class or poverty but we don't because alot of us have grown up believing the opposite. We know free markets don't work and are controlled by the wealthy, we can't have modern kings and queens called ceos that effect the lives of so many at an instance with no remorse. People in the future will look back on our society like we do with the dark ages, as horror and disgust due to most of society having to work to live and survive because a tiny class of morbidly wealthy took too much profit they deemed fair and lived life to the fullest. Right wing economics since the 1980s have made this possible but Capitalism as a whole was never the answer even from 1932-1980 but it did work better for alot of society than it has since 1980 to today.

    • @PhazerTech
      @PhazerTech Рік тому +6

      @@_spooT Agreed. You'd think people would learn from history, but nope.

    • @natefunk1
      @natefunk1 Рік тому +17

      ​@@_spooT Because in the short term it does help them and their personal bottom line. People like that know what they're doing. They know those actions destroy a company, but it profits them, again personally in the short term when they get massive bonuses. They're like corporate pirates in a way. They move from company to company sinking it and looting it for whatever they can.

    • @_spooT
      @_spooT Рік тому

      @@natefunk1 I know why they do it, and thank you for informing me, but still, even tho i know they exist, I just can't stand scummy people that exists in our world. If they were leaders of a country they'd have no problems throwing away the lives of their own people for their own personal gain. They're like trash that pollutes our species. Sometimes you just wish they'd be gone in a snap, but alas, we have to face reality

  • @TKUltra971
    @TKUltra971 Рік тому

    I read about this in a computer mag. Good to hear about it from Jay. Incredible, you didn't know how strict they were until the end of the line.

  • @tgarback9
    @tgarback9 Рік тому +10

    I built my first PC at the beginning of when things got shut down for Covid-19. I love my 2070 Super FTW 3, and planned on staying a customer of their GPU’s whenever I decide to upgrade. Sad that I’ll only have the one I currently use. I’ll never buy a FE card after this, shame on you Nvidia.

  • @ericschultz1554
    @ericschultz1554 Рік тому +339

    Freaking heartbreaking. I’m pretty disgusted with Nvidia right now. We love you EVGA!

    • @nonameposter378
      @nonameposter378 Рік тому

      they been doing shit for years and morons keep buying there stuff so it will continue. Me im happy with my 6950xt tho i will be buying a 7950xt aswell same crap happened with xfx

    • @jenson1896
      @jenson1896 Рік тому +5

      😔❤

    • @positrack99
      @positrack99 Рік тому

      and from the other side: HAHAHAHAHAHA That's what you get EVGA. Ripping people off, selling in mass out the back door to crypto companies. People crying for EVGA and hating on NVIDIA because EVGA sold at 3x MSRP. Bye EVGA I hope you rot in he double hockey sticks forever.

  • @user-qp8cq6ti5l
    @user-qp8cq6ti5l Рік тому +692

    Mad respect to EVGA for this move. If this is what they thought was right for them then I wish them all the best. I don’t own any EVGA products but maybe I start buying their power supplies after this move.

    • @Lunzatis_Palemoon
      @Lunzatis_Palemoon Рік тому +43

      I can vouch for EVGA. I've been using them for years, especially their power supplies. Top notch customer support and power supplies. If your power supply fails and it's still under warranty they'll send you a brand new one.

    • @Odinsday
      @Odinsday Рік тому +13

      Every EVGA card I have used has been fantastic. The only card manufacturer other than Sapphire for AMD I haven’t had an issue with. Their PSUs are also great.

    • @Natsugami45
      @Natsugami45 Рік тому +9

      Their power supplies are really reliable. I still have a 500watt power supply from my first build in late 2015 that it going strong after being used in multiple builds afterwards as well as a 650 watt from 2016. There are affordable and reliable.

    • @amirtak9886
      @amirtak9886 Рік тому +11

      I have a evga 1000w gold psu in my system that I've been using for 8+ years and it's rock solid. You won't be disappointed

    • @PowellCat745
      @PowellCat745 Рік тому +8

      I own a 3080 TI and a 1000 T2 PSU from EVGA. Their customer support is second to none. I really hope they can partner with AMD and compete with Sapphire.

  • @HopliteSecurity
    @HopliteSecurity Рік тому

    Did I read the title right? Wow - thanks for the great news and please keep it up! ❤ 😄 I am going to get one of your shirts! I think it is hilarious!

  • @CallMeMistral
    @CallMeMistral Рік тому

    Been building pc's with evga components since about the same time as you ~2003. Build around 15 pcs for myself or friends and I never had any issues with any parts. EVGA was always like knowing that you get value for you money and if there would have been a problem you got their well known rma system. Defo will miss them a lot.

  • @lil-dabbie4599
    @lil-dabbie4599 Рік тому +215

    Years ago I bought my first graphics card, a 960 4gb card from EVGA. Two years after ownership the card died on me after warranty expired. After sending in my card EVGA gave me a brand new 1060 6gb card when they could have just simply said it was on me. To this day I have only purchased from EVGA, they will be forever missed in the GPU landscape.

    • @perryhiley6749
      @perryhiley6749 Рік тому +10

      It doesn't really take a genius to realise that customer retention is more valuable than replacing one graphics card. Shame they are gone.

    • @ryanlewis5072
      @ryanlewis5072 Рік тому +1

      Lol y’all act like Nvidia the only gpu manufacturer. Evga will still make partner cards with AMD and in the future intel as well I’m sure.

    • @welpi1983
      @welpi1983 Рік тому

      First Card 960? I get old 🙈

    • @nukarad40k43
      @nukarad40k43 Рік тому +1

      I have a similar story with my GPU as well. back in the day I had a triple SLI 780 setup, one of the cards died and EVGA helped out and got me a brand new GTX 970 since they didn't have any 780 laying around. The 970 Is still working hard for me and the other two 780 still work. Overall amazing customer service, I am planning on buying more of there products in the future

  • @sullygtx9350
    @sullygtx9350 Рік тому +434

    EVGA has been one of if not the MOST trustworthy company to do business with for the last few years. They implemented their own queue system so that we could get hardware at a fair price and without bundling unnecessary hardware that had a propensity to catch fire unlike some other businesses. When New World was killing cards, they didn't hesitate to warranty out those cards for the customers. When given a choice, I always try to get parts I need either directly from EVGA or a dealer. I really hope they stick around, hell I'd even switch to AMD to graphics if they started making them. At a minimum, I hope this move by EVGA makes other AIB partners push back against Nvidia and how they do business with their "partners."

    • @johnversluis3084
      @johnversluis3084 Рік тому +4

      I 100 % agree

    • @993mike
      @993mike Рік тому +5

      Agreed - this is terrible news. They are the only brand of graphics cards I’ve been using for the last 12 years in all my builds. Excellent build quality and support, and during the 3080 mess the only company that had a fair system to buy their cards at MSRP. This totally sucks

    • @Kryzul
      @Kryzul Рік тому +8

      @@jjbbryan8795 A sad life is you reading through comments simply to berate someone for their preferences.

    • @hellraserfleshlight
      @hellraserfleshlight Рік тому +3

      I think that the underlying fact that this highlights is that Nvidia doesn't *want* to work with AIB partners anymore. They want to vertically integrate and replace them.

    • @AsurmenHandOfAsur
      @AsurmenHandOfAsur Рік тому +3

      @@hellraserfleshlight Simple,
      don't buy nVidia cards.

  • @sally86don
    @sally86don Рік тому +23

    Nvidia is seeing what its limits are by experimenting with their partners. They want to know how far they can go and draw a line to operate on that line to maximize their profits. 3080 ftw was my dream gpu following closely by rog strix. Thats how nice EVGA was, sad to see they wont be making new ones anymore.

  • @markdomenie5453
    @markdomenie5453 Рік тому

    Thanks for the great video. Very informative!

  • @jdogi1
    @jdogi1 Рік тому +234

    EVGA is a company that I WANT to buy from. They're always at the top of my list.

    • @Interrobang212
      @Interrobang212 Рік тому +8

      Same. Honestly for me one of the downsides of Radeon was not having EVGA.

    • @lip124
      @lip124 Рік тому

      Facts always been

    • @jdogi1
      @jdogi1 Рік тому

      @@Interrobang212 agreed. Had the same problem with mobo going Ryzen

  • @anogi2507
    @anogi2507 Рік тому +433

    I think this will end up in the quality of cards coming from other companies besides EVGA crashing drastically over the years. EVGA was the first sort of brand to add metal backplates with heat pads. All other brands added plastic backplates with no heat pads during the 10 series shebang. EVGA was the innovator of the card market, and without them most companies wont have to compete with the lack of innovation / quality not coming from EVGA anymore.

    • @flexplodin
      @flexplodin Рік тому +2

      With all the competition, we are going to see an uptick in quality on all aspects. Perhaps EVGA is going to start working for intel. I dunno, but very possible. Probably the generation after this next one will be a crazy upgrade. That is if intel gains their stride and makes high end cards. I hope they don't steal the budget market, giving AMD and Nvidia unlimited headroom regarding pricing. I would be so disappointed lol

    • @angrymokyuu9475
      @angrymokyuu9475 Рік тому +12

      @@flexplodin Other videos are clearer on it, but EVGA's already decided it won't go to AMD or Intel and is ditching the GPU business entirely.

    • @flexplodin
      @flexplodin Рік тому +4

      @@angrymokyuu9475 Crazy. The scalping really hurt these guys now that the market is flooded with cheap used cards. Thanks for the info!

    • @VectorAero
      @VectorAero Рік тому +3

      Funny you mention backplates because my EVGA 3080 XC3 has a flimsy plastic backplate and the VRAM temps are bad.

    • @eclipsez0r
      @eclipsez0r Рік тому +3

      Asus will maintain good quality

  • @syntaxed2
    @syntaxed2 Рік тому +1

    The real interesting fact here is that manufacturing cost of metal/plastic/silicon/transistors is roughly the same as it was 10 years ago - The current pricing is based on a purely intellectual property basis and has no grounds in practical reality.

  • @karlhungus545
    @karlhungus545 Рік тому +9

    I've bought 4 EVGA cards over the years (including my current 3070) and it is really sad that they won't be around. I've never had a single issue with any of their cards (going back almost 20 years now), but always bought because of their good price, excellent cooling, and word-of-mouth that they actually stand by their warranties. Unfortunately, Nvidia knows that gamers seem to be willing to pay whatever to play games and upgrade even when they don't NEED to (impulse buying), so this just means more leverage for them.

  • @olympusmons4089
    @olympusmons4089 Рік тому +114

    I am heart broken. I've been an EVGA customer for over 10 years. Long ago, I had a failure with an EVGA card. I called tech support and spoke to a gentleman based in the U.S. He was incredibly helpful. I can't say enough good things about EVGA's customer support. They (were) the only brand I buy. Hope to see them start a new line with AMD or Intel. I would be converted.

    • @Thorocious
      @Thorocious Рік тому +3

      This is what we're losing here, Grade A* customer support

    • @grievesy83
      @grievesy83 Рік тому

      I agree. I would almost straight but an EVGA 7800XT.

  • @scottbeattienet
    @scottbeattienet Рік тому +837

    Good on them for sticking to their principles ... Lets hope AMD smash the next gen GPU and EVGA get on board.

    • @w04h
      @w04h Рік тому +62

      Steve did an interview with Evga's ceo as well and he said they are canceling the video card manufacturing as a whole. So sadly no AMD gpus.

    • @gz28
      @gz28 Рік тому

      @@w04h 0o oh no I thinking the same as scott.

    • @mauricehenry9131
      @mauricehenry9131 Рік тому +1

      get on board... pun intended...

    • @Moody_Incorporated
      @Moody_Incorporated Рік тому

      @@w04h REALLY? Not even AMD? Sound like they're more in financial trouble tbh can't see AMD doing much wrong here.

    • @roam3d151
      @roam3d151 Рік тому +10

      EVGA running red cards would be acutally the turning point for me switching to team red in that regard aswell tbh

  • @armega628
    @armega628 Рік тому +5

    Thanks for the great content Jay! Just watched Gamers Nexus's take on the news and lets just say, I'm really happy you are here to cover topics like this. This is sad news for sure and I'm surprised there is not more of this happening to be honest. Keep up the great content brother!

  • @RomanianAlphaDaddy
    @RomanianAlphaDaddy Рік тому +1

    I’ve always been a Zotac guy for no particular reason but my Z68 FTW is still going strong. It’s outlasted every internal part of it’s build.

  • @danjep2328
    @danjep2328 Рік тому +898

    out of the 4 graphics cards I have bought, 3 of them were EVGA and I have been absolutely pleased with every one of them. They were just what I wanted and needed. No frills, but also no extra crap that I don't need. If EVGA ends up making AMD cards, there is a good chance I might finally try out AMD. I'm not totally brand loyal, but every EVGA product I have bought has never let me down.

    • @DeilGrist
      @DeilGrist Рік тому +41

      Same, especially if AMD continues to improve their driver game or is more power efficient than nvidia.

    • @edenjung9816
      @edenjung9816 Рік тому +24

      @@DeilGrist To be honest i like the AMD drivers much more.
      And i had them all. And every GPU supplier has bad Drivers. Except Matrox. Those are perfect.

    • @julianlanier571
      @julianlanier571 Рік тому +7

      Facts, evga is legit one of the better brands of cards, matter of fact anything they put their name on.

    • @TheRealClaylex
      @TheRealClaylex Рік тому +8

      I might actually/finally give AMD cards a chance if EVGA legit goes to them and AMD lets them mess with their cards as much as they want too.
      I don't understand why NVIDIA thought it was a good idea not for their GPU guys to make the cards better.

    • @IgorBozoki1989
      @IgorBozoki1989 Рік тому +7

      @@edenjung9816 Amd drivers run poorly on older games. Nvidia is overall more stable.

  • @Masterown35
    @Masterown35 Рік тому +946

    In my personal opinion, this is AMD's golden opportunity to really start competing. Treat AIBs better, even potentially get EVGA to sign on and start making their cards. It won't be overnight, but their time is coming.

    • @willembielefeld712
      @willembielefeld712 Рік тому +21

      AMD already had its chance and ruined it. Their own type of dlss is not that great which is the reason, why nvidia still has a virtual benefit of 50% more performance with almost no quality loss.
      AMD also increases prices and their cards run hot and considering toms hardware benchmarks the energy consumption of amd gpus is still much higher.
      Amd's quality is also just way to bad. Every amd gpu i had in the past just burned after one year. They were all loud, hot and died. My nvidia cards all ran for several years no prob.
      Honestly, i don't trust amd anymore. I wish they could compete, but at the moment i don't want to buy any gpu. Neither from nvidia, nor from amd.
      With amd i have to buy a new card after 1-2 years because it will break and with nvidia i pay double the price.
      In a way they are still equal, even if amd's prices would be half the price of nvidia. That is the reason, why they cannot compete.
      They need a better Ai upscaler, less energy consumption, less heat, less noise and their cards must have a longer lifetime. But this won't happen i guess.
      Marketing says their new architecture design would be better than nvidia but i think this is just sht talk. There is no evidence, that their architecture is really better.
      It is just different and it is said to be more scalable. But i doubt nvidias chip design is not scalable. If amds design would be so much better, then why are their cards not performing better?
      Another issue is the raytracing api. For whatever reason nvidias raytracing performs MUCH better than amd's raytracer. I don't know why, i guess they are both just using the directx raytracing but maybe the graphics cards of nvidia translates the api better internally.
      I could imagine amd has a good chance on the low to mid price market. But if rtx4080 will be available and not too expensive, they won't stand a chance next year.

    • @JoshuaDoss
      @JoshuaDoss Рік тому +97

      @@willembielefeld712 💀

    • @gabrielduarte3904
      @gabrielduarte3904 Рік тому +54

      EVGA themselves said they are done with GPUs, they have no plans of partnering with eighter AMD nor Intel to manufacture GPUs in the future.

    • @dayartandplay5768
      @dayartandplay5768 Рік тому

      The undermined LHR

    • @metalmolisher666
      @metalmolisher666 Рік тому +27

      @@willembielefeld712 Outlier - never had a single ad gpu break. However 2 nvidia gpus stopped working. I have had about 50 amd and 40 nvidia gpus. (i am bilding for friends and family)

  • @Folderq
    @Folderq Рік тому +2

    Thanks J for sharing all of this with us. I'm going to repeat myself, like I do since last 10 yeast: screw nVidia, like they screwing all clients all the time. I'm missing EVGA since I've stopped to be nVidia client and it would be awesome to see them in red :)

  • @RollinShultz
    @RollinShultz Рік тому +2

    It's dissappointing news as I lean towards EVGA in making most purchases. Maybe this push will affect NVIDIA enough to make them turn around and do right by AIBs and customers.

  • @metalhead4404
    @metalhead4404 Рік тому +151

    Huge loss for Nvidia and much deserved. The best news I’ve heard all day. EVGA in my experience, has ALWAYS been quality for me and if I’ve ever had issues, the customer support and RMA process has been seamless.

    • @GreenSlug420
      @GreenSlug420 Рік тому +1

      It is good news but what about us who are in a long warranty period? A little worried about that and (how many) they truly have for rma requests..

    • @JustMe-ty2rp
      @JustMe-ty2rp Рік тому +1

      Agreed. I first discovered EVGA nearly 2 decades ago and they've always been top of the pick for all my builds.
      I had my first 1080 blow up on me a few years ago, and they got me a new one no problems (even though part of the fault was my own).
      They will be missed.

    • @rawkusrex
      @rawkusrex Рік тому +3

      it's also a huge loss for EVGA too... Nvidia GPUs make up about 80% of EVGAs sales/profits. If they dont partner with AMD/Intel to make up the money lost, they're definitely gonna have to lay off a majority of their staff

    • @xeroze01
      @xeroze01 Рік тому +4

      @@rawkusrex revenue not profit.
      If someone sells apples and oranges for a dollar each, and sells 80 apples and 20 oranges for a hundred bucks, 80% revenue is going to be apples. But if the cost for selling apples is like 95cents and oranges is like 50 cents, you are looking at 4 dollar profits from apples, 10 dollars profits from oranges.
      Profit margins for gpus are a lot lower than other part of the business to the point where even though it is 80% of their revenue, it's definitely not 70-80% of their profits, especially considering from gamer's nexus' video on their profit margin, he quotes the profit margins of power supplies as multiples of gpu's

    • @rawkusrex
      @rawkusrex Рік тому +1

      @@xeroze01 whatever you call it, it doesnt really matter. the point is that 80% of their business is GPUs. there is going to be massive layoffs

  • @XionLuis
    @XionLuis Рік тому +437

    I've used many brands of producs and I must say: EVGA's were, in my experience, ALWAYS the most reliable. Sad to see they are not producing video cards for nvidia anymore, glad they stuck the proverbial middle finger in nvidia's face.

    • @arturorochoa9359
      @arturorochoa9359 Рік тому +8

      Similar to the literal middle finger of Linus Torvalds

    • @anydaynow01
      @anydaynow01 Рік тому +3

      Yeah I've been running EVGA products for well, decades, this news is like a dagger to the heart! I'm looking at you EVGA 1080 FTW3 Hybrid SLI setup that has gotten me through so much over the years, it was good while it lasted! I better find a EVGA 30 series card to get me through the next few years for my next build.

    • @Greshgore
      @Greshgore Рік тому

      @@anydaynow01 I've had my heart set on the FTW 3070 black personally. Nice sweet spot between power, energy use, and cooling IMO. Although energy use gets severely relative given the inefficiencies/dollar per watt we're seeing in 20xxx and 30xx and now 40xx.

    • @muurrarium9460
      @muurrarium9460 Рік тому +1

      stuck
      (sticked is not any language)

    • @puppy.shorts
      @puppy.shorts Рік тому

      Well not in the faces but a**

  • @whoisntwhoisit2126
    @whoisntwhoisit2126 Рік тому

    Noooooo :( That was one of the only combinations that I never thought twice about!

  • @DrLuigiPhd
    @DrLuigiPhd Рік тому

    I'm so glad I got one of the hybrid cooled 3080s now. I have it set as exhaust out the side of my O11 Air mini and a CPU AIO set as exhaust out the top. Inside the case stays cool and both get fresh air.

  • @OzzyInSpace
    @OzzyInSpace Рік тому +303

    I can't wrap my head around this... I've literally always had an EVGA card in my system. I can't even imagine who else I'd consider trying out for future GPU needs. I think many of us would appreciate a video diving into RMA and warranty stance of other partners...since that will be a big sticking point for many of us moving forward.

    • @darylatkins2909
      @darylatkins2909 Рік тому +6

      Same. Every build has been with EVGA GPUs. I now have no idea what my next build will be like.

    • @FiredAndIced
      @FiredAndIced Рік тому

      r/ABoringDystopia is where we are headed to where graphics cards are concerned.

    • @waifuhunter9709
      @waifuhunter9709 Рік тому

      I used a card from saphire for 1w years. You can try them

    • @Glotttis
      @Glotttis Рік тому +4

      EVGA wasn't even available in my country. You'll survive without it. Asus is a great choice. Never had a problem with Asus GPU. They are extremely popular and considered top tier GPU here in Europe with great resale value.

    • @chickenpoodlesoup
      @chickenpoodlesoup Рік тому

      Try Powercolor or Sapphire. They're sort of like the EVGA of Radeon cards. Fuck Nvidia

  • @r.s.w.k4569
    @r.s.w.k4569 Рік тому +339

    Respect to EVGA. Hopefully, this opens the door to EVGA working with AMD.

    • @TheZumiezNation
      @TheZumiezNation Рік тому +17

      According to GamersNexus, they won't be making any more graphics cards at all, no new deals with any other GPU manufacturers.

    • @GamewthGaim
      @GamewthGaim Рік тому +25

      Sad.. because I would have loved to see an AMD and EVGA partnership.

    • @tommantek3632
      @tommantek3632 Рік тому +1

      EVGA says they're out of the GPU card market.

    • @r.s.w.k4569
      @r.s.w.k4569 Рік тому +14

      @@TheZumiezNation For now. Hopefully they reconsider. Would be a shame to not take advantage of EVGA's expertise. I havent heard AIBs complaining about AMDs treatment of them.

    • @subjekt5577
      @subjekt5577 Рік тому +11

      I wonder why they're not down for amd. As a Linux user I'd be ecstatic if they went amd.

  • @WaikikiSmoke
    @WaikikiSmoke Рік тому

    Good Job! Nice hair cut. was saving for my kingpin4K

  • @ironpolux
    @ironpolux Рік тому

    we will get through this, hang in there bro.

  • @georgejones5019
    @georgejones5019 Рік тому +557

    Woah. That's big news. EVGA arguably makes some of the more popular GPU variants.
    That's a huge blow to Nvidia for sure.

    • @mastroitek
      @mastroitek Рік тому +12

      indeed, furthermore in my country EVGA and Gigabyte offer the cheaper models of basically any Nvidia GPU

    • @commandertoothpick8284
      @commandertoothpick8284 Рік тому +1

      @@cosminlesutan3574 agreed

    • @0Blueaura
      @0Blueaura Рік тому +25

      @@cosminlesutan3574 they are one of the best most of the time, and their support is amazing, its a shame. but hopefully nvidias higher ups will get kicked in the balls this way

    • @MirzaPehlic79
      @MirzaPehlic79 Рік тому

      @UCvNgchhWmdeFgry3CqGZ8mw plenty of them in EU

    • @tomwallen7271
      @tomwallen7271 Рік тому

      @UCvNgchhWmdeFgry3CqGZ8mw Would be a shame if the US is a massive GPU market.

  • @sergioaraujo7943
    @sergioaraujo7943 Рік тому +127

    My experience with EVGA is limited to one card: 1080 FTW. When the VRM problem started to pop-up, EVGA sent the new thermal pads, and I made the installation and updated the VBIOS. The card is still running strong since late 2016. Sad to see the company leaving the GPU business.

    • @gucky4717
      @gucky4717 Рік тому

      But there lies the Problem. EVGA Cards had Problems in several Generations. RMA and even Supportpackages like those Thermalpads cost Money.

    • @Xewl
      @Xewl Рік тому +4

      ​@@gucky4717 Well, if you don't know shit until release day, and only learn the edge-problems after it's in consumer hands.. (which are most of the times not even their fault..) that's indeed a problem. EVGA has done nothing other than trying to fix the shit that they're being thrown into; and have generations of good-will & quality products+support to speak for that.
      I really wish it didn't have to go this way, but choices have to be made; and the ROI of this stress isn't worth it imho either.

    • @kurosumomo
      @kurosumomo Рік тому +2

      @@Xewl Others don't know shit either, but they didn't have such problems. EVGA is great for their customer support and their step up plans, but outside of USA, customer support isn't an issue since you don't deal with the manufacturer you deal with the shop, and warranty laws are strict. That being said, maybe I'm lucky, but I've been through about 20 GPUs in my life, and aside of one, they all worked flawlessly until I replaced them, but I've been dealing with dead motherboards a lot, and I just return them to the shop, tell them the problem, and I get a new board instantly or money back if the board is no longer manufactured/ or currently unavailable, or they offer me a similarly priced board. Not once did the shop I buy from; Local shops, Amazon, Yodobashi, Saturn, complicate my warranty. If the shop does no want to honor the warranty, they can get into a lot of trouble in most places, to a point where they could even get shut down over a $800 graphics card.

    • @dasani383
      @dasani383 Рік тому

      @@kurosumomo you are not god do not think you every store will bow down to you. You are not invincible.

    • @Xewl
      @Xewl Рік тому +1

      @@2buckgeo843 Why? Still works fine for me..

  • @thiccbicc
    @thiccbicc Рік тому

    I got my 3080Ti FTW3 yesterday, and the employee and I had a little talk about the whole situation... On their end, EVGA isn't sending anymore product to the store. The warranty applies as a store credit to an equivalent card, or saved as store credit.

  • @michaeldaw8291
    @michaeldaw8291 Рік тому

    Thanks

  • @mitchelwilson5605
    @mitchelwilson5605 Рік тому +343

    This has further soiled my impression of nvidia. They've been making moves like Facebook. I remember when they did the founders cards and folks discussed the conflict of interest. They blamed their partners for leaks when they've had plenty of internal leaks. I see this pushing folks to AMD/Radeon and even Intel cards. I feel it.

    • @Luuniixo
      @Luuniixo Рік тому +35

      @@RJMStraya why would it?

    • @amamoykcuf
      @amamoykcuf Рік тому +14

      All you need is Jensen's statement about partners, it says it all. Right after defending why they dont give out information to them, and saying how they like and want everything internalized. Jensen - "Why are these guys (board partners), making money when theyre not doing much? NVIDIA's problem is it doesnt control the supply chain like Apple does". They have a direction, and theyre heading toward that path full steam ahead.

    • @AllBrainsNoSoul
      @AllBrainsNoSoul Рік тому

      No, not really.

    • @AllBrainsNoSoul
      @AllBrainsNoSoul Рік тому +1

      Exactly. Jensen doesn’t see the work they do in designing/manufacturing boards, sourcing parts/materials, or in dealing with customers. They used to be allowed to innovate more but Nvidia and nvidia alone stopped that.

    • @digizilla164
      @digizilla164 Рік тому +19

      @@RJMStraya Why would it be EVGA's fault when Nvidia has a reputation of being hard to work with.

  • @DOGbackwardz
    @DOGbackwardz Рік тому +81

    There's so much that Nvidia has done to destroy their partner relations. T2 partners got the absolute shaft in the past with so much deadstock required for allocations that XFX jumped shipped. The situation could have only worsened with Nvidia taking over reference sales. If a T1 partner like EVGA is jumping ship it just looks like the 3000/4000 series overproduction is massive.

    • @chubbysumo2230
      @chubbysumo2230 Рік тому +8

      Not just overproduction, it sounds like other board Partners May jump ship too. It sounds like a lot of board partners are getting absolutely burned so hard on the 30 series they decided that the 40 series isn't worth the gamble because in video won't tell them the price prior to lunch, why would you take a gamble on something you don't know the price of. Especially an Electronics luxury good like a graphics card. I believe when the control freaks at Nvidia started taking over, that is when XFX exited Nvidia space.

    • @joeykeilholz925
      @joeykeilholz925 Рік тому +2

      This happened with 20 series too. Nvidia just allows its partners to lose tons of money towards the end of the generation.

  • @JanBuffalo3
    @JanBuffalo3 Рік тому +1

    The EVGA 2080 SUPER Hybrid still working like a charm, bought it for 550€ back in the day

  • @mustangman6579
    @mustangman6579 Рік тому

    I too have been a customer of theirs for nearly 20 years. I honestly don't know what to do now when I build my next computer.

  • @caynidar6295
    @caynidar6295 Рік тому +62

    If I was another AIB partner, this would have me second guessing my relationship with Nvidia, if they could allow this to happen with EVGA.

    • @AnimeMaster74
      @AnimeMaster74 Рік тому

      the shit thing is that even if any company would have to choose to stay or leave Nvidia, in the end, Nvidia wins heavily. Because well now they can charge a crap tun more without any competition. dick move but business is business!

  • @Foxtrot672
    @Foxtrot672 Рік тому +53

    This is heart breaking. EVGA made some of the best cards out there and if you did have an issue, their customer support was the best.

  • @Irovetti
    @Irovetti Рік тому

    I remember a few years back, my EVGA 980 got fried so I sent it in for replacement. They sent me a brand new 980Ti at no cost, it was awesome

  • @alexanderrossello1228
    @alexanderrossello1228 Рік тому

    EVGA has been my first brand that i bought a card for a 970 helped me game on my pc when i first built it I have since then stayed loyal to them. Superior customer service and support they did what was right for the shortages to help get cards out. Im happy to continue supporting them

  • @AIM9Sidewinder1776
    @AIM9Sidewinder1776 Рік тому +87

    My last 3 GPUs were EVGA, and their support was/is amazing. Their queue system was the only reason I was able to get a 30 series card during the peak of shortage, at msrp. Today is a sad day

    • @gmualum08
      @gmualum08 Рік тому +1

      Glad the queue worked for you. It worked for me..eventually after the shortage ended. But I still respected their efforts and the fact they sold cards for MSRP while others were taking you to the bank.

  • @missiondoody
    @missiondoody Рік тому +442

    I applaud a company that’s willing to stand by its principles, employees, and customers especially when it comes with risk. Optimistic that they will eventually create new partnerships and continue to create reliable cards with all the features we love.. Fingers crossed

    • @ipawilzon
      @ipawilzon Рік тому +1

      ethereum went proof of stake yesterday... gpu prices crashing by the second. But they wont make anyone else's cards and only talk about not doing 40 series?? no, this is a corporation protecting it's bottom dollar during a crash by laying off (or forcing them to quit) over 50% of their workforce while they RIDE OUT THE CRASH... how in the hell does no one else see this and why is everyone kissing EVGA's ass rn?? I have ONLY owned EVGA cards and own a 3090 ftw3, but I see this for what it is... a corporation being VERY sleazy. Why in the hell didn't the CEO do this on camera instead of behind a closed door?? because he is expecting backlash and came to GN to try and "ease the blow".. it's sleazy and its a TEXTBOOK corporation top brass decision. I bet the workers are finding this out at the same time we are....

    • @ewitte12
      @ewitte12 Рік тому +6

      @@TekniQx got burned holding a ton of cards they can't offload...

    • @mastixencounter
      @mastixencounter Рік тому +6

      ????? this was not for their principles, employees, and customers

    • @cortezbaldur413
      @cortezbaldur413 Рік тому +10

      @@TekniQx
      They were being undercut hard by Nvidia and were saying they were taking losses if there taking losses then there losing money fast wich means they STILL have to make lay offs.
      Either way people get fired when a product they have makes less a d less money cause ur partner keeps taking more and more of ur slice of the pie in that product. Eventually there's just no money in it anymore. It's a huge L no matter u stay with Nvidia or u decide to leave.

    • @Talishar
      @Talishar Рік тому

      How have they stood with their customers? They were one of the first AIBs to hike their prices up because they saw demand outstrip supply. They fully took part in the price gouging of the last couple of years and profited heavily off of it. They're now complaining that they're feeling the aftereffects of the market correcting itself back to sane levels again. They rode the hype train and overpromised investors thinking that 2x+ MSRP was going to last a lot longer than it did and then the crypto mining bubble busted and inventory quadrupled nearly overnight tanking GPU prices. They were even able to complain to Nvidia to slow down release of new stock to help artificially keep prices higher than they should which in the end, is to help the AIBs and not Nvidia. Nvidia makes a set amount per unit and it's actually in their best interest to flood the market because of their per-unit price based on whatever contract they hold with their customer. Nvidia as a component supplier makes their profits by volume.
      While I'm not a fan of Nvidia or AMD, it doesn't mean I'm naive to think some other multi-billion-dollar corporation isn't mystically out to not enrich itself as well. All of the AIBs jumped on the price gouging hype train to record profits and are now taking a beating because the orders they put in during the shortage in light of the overpriced units has come in and is driving prices down due to a glut in new supply relative to what supplies were 2 years ago. They were even able to get their key supplier, Nvidia, to control and limit shipping to all other companies in order to keep prices somewhat up purely to their own benefit. People a week or two ago got pissed and Nvidia for saying that they were doing this instead of getting mad at the AIBs who all pushed Nvidia to do it to save their own asses. The AIBs can't just stop cold turkey to kill off supply because they'll just lose sales to another AIB who will refuse and will sell at a loss just to move stagnant inventory. Thus, they begged Nvidia to slow sales overall which forces all AIBs to lower production and so none of the others gets an advantage.

  • @OmenAfflictions
    @OmenAfflictions Рік тому

    I feel your pain Jay it really makes me sad cause EVGA was always my go to for when I upgraded my graphic card and now I am like you what you said about being a regular fan boy of regular graphic and another thing I was just actually thinking about getting one of there last production cards like the 3080ti, nonetheless it’s totally sad and mind boggling…

  • @cho9171
    @cho9171 Рік тому

    Still rocking the EVGA 970 ssc to this day. That's how good that card has been.

  • @pedrolabate0
    @pedrolabate0 Рік тому +104

    That's some MAJOR news, I'm shocked. It really saddens me to hear that, every since I started building PCs some 16 years ago EVGA has always been my go-to brand for graphics cards. Not only were they great, but here in Brazil, they're also substantially cheaper than other AIBs for some reason. It's a shame, less competition is always a bad thing

    • @lockkeylive3809
      @lockkeylive3809 Рік тому +5

      My guess about why it's cheaper would be that other brands are pricing their GPUs at higher then MSRP prices, while EVGA stayed true to MSRP

    • @Arthur-ow7ep
      @Arthur-ow7ep Рік тому +4

      @@lockkeylive3809 prabably even one of the reasons why they are breaking their relationship, since Nvidia seemed to be harsh with EVGA.

    • @oceanbytez847
      @oceanbytez847 Рік тому +1

      Well they have to make cards so most likely they will do AMD's.

    • @marcusborderlands6177
      @marcusborderlands6177 Рік тому +2

      @@oceanbytez847 they said they won't partner with amd or Intel. They are leaving the gpu market completely

  • @xerowolf4242
    @xerowolf4242 Рік тому +603

    I'm really hoping that EVGA partners with AMD in the future and doesn't completely abandon making graphics cards. I only recently built my first PC and got a 3050 from EVGA. I had heard so much good about them as a company and was already planning on being a loyal customer of theirs for life.

    • @Cirris
      @Cirris Рік тому +24

      EVGA would be a hell of a get for AMD. though AMD has some good partners in Sapphire and AS Rock.

    • @dee_dubb
      @dee_dubb Рік тому +13

      Way better grab for Intel... just saying. Intel is new in the GPU market

    • @SubbieOrSunnie
      @SubbieOrSunnie Рік тому +7

      I hate my amd card, the drivers suck

    • @xerowolf4242
      @xerowolf4242 Рік тому +1

      @@SubbieOrSunnie yeah unfortunately I have heard others complain about AMD cards as well. I have a feeling that AMD is going to get a lot better in the future tho.

    • @GrimmWarrior19
      @GrimmWarrior19 Рік тому +3

      Same, might be the investment edge AMD needs for their cards and software. It is a pretty odd coincidence that this news came just after AM5 boards and Zen 4 dropped. Fingers crossed.

  • @julianbell9161
    @julianbell9161 Рік тому +1

    EVGA is my go to after market brand. I have a 2080 Ti on my main build and a 980 Ti on my secondary build. I had a 1080 last my 5 years before I upgraded and gave it to my friend. It still runs great for him. These cards have never given me any headaches where other cards have (I’m looking at you, Gigabyte). This is unfortunate. Thankfully I’m not looking to upgrade either of my systems anytime in the next 5 or more years.

  • @Teh_Monk
    @Teh_Monk Рік тому +6

    EVGA is the only brand I’ve ever purchased an Nvidia card from. I just love their card designs and reliability. Super sad they’re exiting the GPU space, but luckily I found a 3070Ti FTW3 recently and it’ll be in my rig for years to come. Maybe by the time I have to upgrade they’ll be making awesome video cards again.

  • @paulking4908
    @paulking4908 Рік тому +282

    I would love it if EVGA would expand their motherboard lineups.

    • @Mirrow24
      @Mirrow24 Рік тому +3

      Yes, but they cost really a lot

    • @kyoudaiken
      @kyoudaiken Рік тому +6

      They literally have no choice. So they definitely will!

    • @cts006
      @cts006 Рік тому +3

      @@Mirrow24 That is kind of why it would be nice for them to expand the line up though. Currently they really only offer one high-end board and one halo tier XOC board (for each Intel and AMD).

    • @knghtbrd
      @knghtbrd Рік тому +1

      @@Mirrow24 If they expand their lineup, they could produce motherboards that don't.

    • @tejano2828
      @tejano2828 Рік тому

      They should follow Asus's flagship ROG series and make like over the top Mobos I would def buy one.

  • @MrJules2U
    @MrJules2U Рік тому +182

    If EVGA works with AMD, expect to see some amazing custom GPUs. Good on EVGA for making the decision to leave a overly controlling partnership, here's to their future success.

    • @Dakkidaze
      @Dakkidaze Рік тому +3

      If they go AMD or Intel, they *could* face the same problem.
      HIS died after the first mining boom and it was pretty much in the same shoes as EVGA today.

    • @LZeugirdor
      @LZeugirdor Рік тому +2

      @@Dakkidaze I hope that amd and Intel learn from Nvidia's mistakes because we're coming to a point in history where things will either turn very good or very bad for bigger companies. Right now, we're pushing hard and we shouldn't let up. When it comes to right to repair or competition, etc, things are getting better for the consumer.

    • @Dakkidaze
      @Dakkidaze Рік тому +4

      @@LZeugirdor yeah that's the best outcome
      But business being business, AIC partners buy chips at high prices, they of course will lose money now selling at lower prices.
      The problem is that NV forbids them to sell at lower price for NV's own interests.
      I believe it will be better with AMD, but Intel, meh

    • @hikarushindo9131
      @hikarushindo9131 Рік тому

      I would be glad if EVGA works with Intel. AMD has a huge problem with drivers and support. EVGA is not a company that likes to deal with that.

    • @dnakatomiuk
      @dnakatomiuk Рік тому +1

      @@hikarushindo9131 Yet Intel have had a reputation for cloggin the market with partners and stopping them from selling AMD systems in the past. So either way they would or could get screwed by them as well

  • @navybrandt
    @navybrandt Рік тому +1

    I've worked in obsolescence departments before, and baring something almost supernatural (e.g. a natural disaster that takes out all replacement cards or some virus destroys all the world's 3080s or something else weird), you have very little to worry about when it come to warranties. They will keep back plenty of stock.

  • @ryanbroos5143
    @ryanbroos5143 Рік тому +9

    This is not something I would have ever expected. This may actually give AMD an opportunity to pass Nvidia GPUs. I am curious how the other AIBs will react. On a personal level I have never bought a "Nvidia" branded card. It's always been EVGA or Gigabyte. I wish EVGA much success with this move

  • @yellowflash511
    @yellowflash511 Рік тому +85

    Really hope EVGA partners up with AMD, I have already switched to AMD with a 6800M laptop and am very pleased with it, when I eventually build a PC I would love to get a EVGA Radeon card as their products and after-sales are excellent.
    Edit: yes I know about Sapphire ofc, I actually bought a Sapphire 6600 for my little cousin recently. Sapphire will obviously be a top choice, just hoping EVGA will join them on the other side. This will also ironically help in the competition as a lot of people will buy EVGA Radeon cards just cause it's EVGA.

    • @SuperYusha
      @SuperYusha Рік тому +6

      Imagine a “EVGA Radeon RX 7900 XT Kingpin”

    • @TAP7a
      @TAP7a Рік тому +2

      @@SuperYusha ultimate rasterisation, and second gen ray tracing, all with the snot overclocked out of it

    • @dilet1114
      @dilet1114 Рік тому

      sadly it doesn't seem likely as stated in the video. maybe something changes, but probably not.

  • @nolan_8
    @nolan_8 Рік тому +111

    I've had an eVGA 6600, 8800, 1060, and, now I just bought a 3080. Never had a single issue with them. I have always loved that they stick to the basics and deliver on what they promise. I look forward to how they pivot their brand, and I hope Nvidia changes course on some of their decisions or I'll be switching to AMD.

    • @imallfordabulls
      @imallfordabulls Рік тому

      I had a similar upgrade path, also never had an issue. This news is really surprising. It will be interesting to see where they go.

    • @SadisticStang
      @SadisticStang Рік тому +1

      What basics? They had ridiculous model tiering as if they were Ford selling Mustangs. Just slap some badge on it and mark up.

    • @chepachem8351
      @chepachem8351 Рік тому +2

      Made the switch to Radeon 5 years ago. No regrets

    • @netpilot7843
      @netpilot7843 Рік тому +1

      Similar here. EVGA 460, 560ti (x2), 760ti (x2), 1080ti (Hydro Copper), and just ordered a 3080ti (Hydro Copper). Guess my next gen will be AMD.

  • @goblinhero2900
    @goblinhero2900 Рік тому

    Got protection on my evga card at microcenter so I'm covered well if anything goes wrong even if there are no evga cards left

  • @xxnyanationxxuwu8777
    @xxnyanationxxuwu8777 Рік тому

    EVGA Has been the card of choice for me since my 660 that still works to this day.. I love their motherboards had the x58 FTW that is still being used to this date. If they had AMD motherboards when i built my latest system it would be EVGA as well. I know I'm a bit of a fan boy but their products have never let me down. All the power supplies video cards motherboards I have purchased from them still work to this day.

  • @Haksdo2
    @Haksdo2 Рік тому +249

    EVGA was probably the one company that was synonymous with NVidia GPUs. About the same when you mention Sapphire, you think of AMD (or even ATI back in the days). EVGA breaking with NVidia is a big thing and I hope this starts a movement that other AIBs say FU NVidia and we as consumers get back the old, crazy custom GPUs again.

    • @UpperAquatics
      @UpperAquatics Рік тому +22

      IMO sapphire is to AMD GPU's as EVGA is to Nvidia GPU's

    • @Touchybanana
      @Touchybanana Рік тому +9

      EVGA recently has made AMD products in the past few years.

    • @fightinfilipino
      @fightinfilipino Рік тому +12

      considering the other AIB partners are Gigabyte of Exploding PSU fame and MSI, which scalped their own GPU boards, it's not looking bright...

    • @Unobserved07
      @Unobserved07 Рік тому +2

      This scenario is awful for the consumer

    • @von...
      @von... Рік тому +1

      @@Unobserved07 not if all of them go to AMD (or intel...) and then start making all their classic designs + having the freedom to make insane custom boards. I would happily pay more for a product that I know is pushing the limits & designed for the pure 'love of the sport'

  • @ZucchiniCzar
    @ZucchiniCzar Рік тому +240

    This presents an incredible opportunity for AMD to let partners show what they are capable of doing with their GPU architecture.

    • @robgallagher2199
      @robgallagher2199 Рік тому +42

      I can only pray that EVGA got with AMD so I wouldn't have to deal with MSI garbage from them.

    • @MIBxSpartan
      @MIBxSpartan Рік тому +41

      EVGA CEO said they were done with the GPU market for the time being. So no EVGA AMD video cards for the time being.

    • @as7river
      @as7river Рік тому +6

      @@MIBxSpartan :(

    • @ruskimofia
      @ruskimofia Рік тому +8

      AMD isn’t capable of doing shit with their cards lmfao

    • @dethtour
      @dethtour Рік тому +12

      @@ruskimofia they have good gpu's though. It's just their Ray tracing

  • @lpfreak72589
    @lpfreak72589 Рік тому +1

    my first graphics card was a 1070 during the vrm failure, how they handled it won a customer for life. Sad Ill never get to upgrade to a new EVGA card again

  • @thebudgetcyclist4310
    @thebudgetcyclist4310 Рік тому +1

    I can't see how power supplies are gonna keep the company alive, but the best of luck for them.

  • @Zookegger
    @Zookegger Рік тому +133

    I’m curious to see if AMD hops on this train and convinces EVGA to make AMD cards

    • @ZackSNetwork
      @ZackSNetwork Рік тому +36

      Going AMD is the best option for them. Intel is either dead in the water or will not be competitive for a while.

    • @TheObsesedAnimeFreaks
      @TheObsesedAnimeFreaks Рік тому +11

      no that's probably why EVGA left nVidia probably for that reason. well one of the many reasons.

    • @j.a.3138
      @j.a.3138 Рік тому

      @@ZackSNetwork wtf you just said? Intel is dead on the water? You must be on drugs

    • @commanderkaoz1556
      @commanderkaoz1556 Рік тому +3

      In which case, i will be buying amd cards. EVGA is the only reason I've stuck with nvidia cards this whole time

    • @Ryan-re1rs
      @Ryan-re1rs Рік тому

      Id say yes,

  • @gamerfly3064
    @gamerfly3064 Рік тому +176

    I would love to see EVGA partner with AMD. Can you imagine if AMD gives EVGA permission to customize their GPU based on EVGA's preference, how much market share AMD can capture. It may really force nvidia to lower their price in future GPU.

    • @RYTHMICRIOT
      @RYTHMICRIOT Рік тому +14

      EVGA has officially stated that they will not pursue a partnership with AMD or Intel regarding GPU'S. Of course, that can change overnight.

    • @ZERONEVERSEVEN
      @ZERONEVERSEVEN Рік тому +2

      Seeing as EVGA knew in April they were leaving the Nvidea partnership, I would think they would have reached out to AMD by now to start partnering. I think they are done with gpu's.

    • @Washanuga
      @Washanuga Рік тому +4

      AMD already has Sapphire though. I think it would be more wise for EVGA to partner with Intel.

    • @jakestocker4854
      @jakestocker4854 Рік тому +4

      Thankfully XFX and Sapphire are already probably the best quality in terms of anyone else in the market.

    • @korinogaro
      @korinogaro Рік тому

      AMD is not competent enough to grab more marketshare. They show it once again giving nVidia months to sell their 40 series.

  • @gm4ulkill
    @gm4ulkill Рік тому

    I rmd my 1080…… they sent me back a 1080ti….. needless to say I became a fan. I literally found out about the issue through this video and you pointing it out… now I know why I got a 1080ti

  • @SDXStudio
    @SDXStudio Рік тому +3

    I was just getting into PC building around the time EVGA came on the market. As I'm sure a lot of people know, navigating different brands, compatibility, price and best value is incredibly difficult.
    As most people, my very first impressions on a company or a product is what I can see with my eyes. At that time, there were sooo many companies that just sounded like generic, goofy off-shoots that sometimes I almost questioned if what I was purchasing was counterfeit (from a retail store, mind you) or would just fail within a few weeks.
    EVGA stood out from all of that. They seemed like they knew what they were doing, and were delivering quality stuff. Any time I can buy EVGA, I do. I've owned their PSUs, graphic cards, Mobos, AIOs and some other stuff and I've never been disappointed.
    This is a sad day as I was looking forward to 40 series but given those prices I might actually try to snag a tier above what I was planning (3080ti vs 3090) and just snag a current EVGA card.

  • @donaldexley1852
    @donaldexley1852 Рік тому +71

    the power supplies EVGA makes are solid, some of the best in the industry. I really hope they branch out to keep this company around for a long time, as the CEO seems to have and always had the customer and shockingly their employees best interest in mind.

    • @D-2-the-no
      @D-2-the-no Рік тому +2

      Always had evga psus. Never had a fault with one yet

    • @kryss8667
      @kryss8667 Рік тому +1

      For PSU i'm, a Seasonic fan, but i had the pleasure to work with few from EVGA, and for me, they are the second best after Seasonic. These are the only 2 PSU brands that i'm considering.

    • @0842
      @0842 Рік тому

      been rocking the same evga psu for 8yrs now still running like a champ

    • @XxASBURYxX
      @XxASBURYxX Рік тому

      @@kryss8667 then you'd be happy to know, EVGA just rebadge seasonic units ;)

  • @jimmygomez7406
    @jimmygomez7406 Рік тому +201

    I love the EVGA cards, they’ve always had this unique feel to them.

    • @joshpashia637
      @joshpashia637 Рік тому +12

      Quality. Can't wait to see the new amd cards from them.

    • @billyhatcher643
      @billyhatcher643 Рік тому

      im not gonna be able to buy good gpus anymore i switched to evga for my 3090 recently and now its worthless if the gpu breaks im never gonna get a replacement so im screwed

    • @r.l.strange1897
      @r.l.strange1897 Рік тому

      @@billyhatcher643 ummmmm ok lol

    • @bfopie
      @bfopie Рік тому +1

      Every card I've purchased in the demise of BFG has been EVGA. Very sad right now.

    • @kole081
      @kole081 Рік тому

      always hold best value

  • @martinw245
    @martinw245 Рік тому

    Had an email this morning from EVGA, regarding an extended warranty refund.
    They refused. They said they would only consider an extended warranty refund if the card has just been purchased.
    I asked if they would have enough cards in stock to replace my card if it fails toward the end of the 5 year extended warranty. They just said they would honour the warranty to my satisfaction... what that means god knows. Clearly doesn't necessarily mean a replacement card.

  • @bonbonjovi4836
    @bonbonjovi4836 Рік тому

    wow, all my GeForce Cards have been EVGA including the one in my current PC. That's because the first video card I ever bought was from EVGA which broke over a year later and there customer service was so good when it came to replacing it. No headaches or crap to deal with. Forgot what video card it was exactly but it was in the Battlefield 2 days.

  • @jacobeaton4042
    @jacobeaton4042 Рік тому +195

    This is nuts…I’m sad cause they are my favorite manufacturer and not being with Nvidia is kind of disheartening

    • @FunTimeWithSouls
      @FunTimeWithSouls Рік тому +9

      Same, every Nvidia card I’ve ever owned has been EVGA. Started with a 9800GT years and years ago and have owned sooo many EVGA cards since then.

    • @mr.puddintater1805
      @mr.puddintater1805 Рік тому +2

      Evga =quality. I have had nothing but great experience with their Products. There must be a small margin of profit on gpus. The price must be high.

    • @ChrisZukowski88
      @ChrisZukowski88 Рік тому +12

      screw Nvidia. would be nice to see evga amd cards.

    • @top.of.reddit
      @top.of.reddit Рік тому +1

      @@ChrisZukowski88 You forgot that nvidia encoder can handle 20 1080p transcodes (amd can do only 4) and a quality way higher than the amd at the same bitrate in real time

    • @masturone8257
      @masturone8257 Рік тому

      I am actually excited because that means they will be hyper focused on the product they build to make sure its performance and quality surpass their competitors. Not suprised once u hear nancy pelosi invests in a company to flip a quick buck only to see its bump in value was only temporary to the decline right after of thw stock

  • @ZisisKoukoumakis
    @ZisisKoukoumakis Рік тому +163

    I've never bought an EVGA card in my life, mainly because I'm an AMD fan. But, I follow their work and understand what their work looks like. I really, REALLY hope they partner up with AMD and convince them to have more freedom for innovation. Give Sapphire some competition!

    • @taylorswiftfan1364
      @taylorswiftfan1364 Рік тому +4

      Sapphire and EVGA have made the best looking cards ever in my opinion, clean and nice looking without looking like a racecar bed.

    • @drizztdourden6687
      @drizztdourden6687 Рік тому +4

      Oooo that would be sick af. I wanna see some EVGA made AMD cards!

    • @willt3223
      @willt3223 Рік тому

      they might join AMD.

  • @adddan123
    @adddan123 Рік тому

    Great and very informative video 🙏

  • @stephenburchill5521
    @stephenburchill5521 Рік тому +1

    Wow what a blow to lose evga. They were my goto brand. I used their awesome rma and step-up programs. Sad to know they won't be an option anymore.

  • @grimdicer152
    @grimdicer152 Рік тому +194

    AMD could take advantage of this situation. I’d love to see them partner up in a deeper way given the winning streak that AMD is on.

    • @scrawnyclownsnatch9656
      @scrawnyclownsnatch9656 Рік тому +31

      I agree. If there is anything that would get me to switch over to AMD, it would be an EVGA AMD card.

    • @jakestocker4854
      @jakestocker4854 Рік тому +4

      Why though? Outside of brand recognition XFX and Sapphire make the most high quality cards out there.

    • @klooger28
      @klooger28 Рік тому +9

      @@jakestocker4854 because evga good

    • @jakestocker4854
      @jakestocker4854 Рік тому +2

      @@klooger28 sure, but I don't think they're better than Sapphire or even most XFX cards. Probably wouldn't do nearly as much to swing sales as people think.

    • @robotsix6268
      @robotsix6268 Рік тому +12

      EVGA is a big player. If AMD doesn't pounce at the opportunity, it sounds like there won't be another.

  • @n5r15
    @n5r15 Рік тому +197

    EVGA was the only reason I've stuck with Nvidia all these years. Looks like my next GPU is likely to be AMD. I hear good things about some of their AIBs

    • @mattblack6736
      @mattblack6736 Рік тому +34

      Thats nothing, one time i was on a cruise and i fell overboard, luckily i had my trusty evga graphics card on me and i used it as a life raft. EVGA SAVED MY LIFE!

    • @LinuxMaster9
      @LinuxMaster9 Рік тому +16

      Sapphire is my go to AIB for AMD

    • @tzuten
      @tzuten Рік тому +1

      Ok, well.. Go with a second rate card. I have a 6800XT, and ya.. Not happy.

    • @Dartchone
      @Dartchone Рік тому

      If u don't stream that is fine but if u stream u need Nvidia as AMD encoder's are nonexistent to be honest

    • @Balanced--
      @Balanced-- Рік тому +1

      dont go amd. i have a 6900xt and regret it. constant driver crashes just like all their older products. im gonna sell this and go back to nvidia.

  • @bullettube9863
    @bullettube9863 Рік тому +3

    I think that Nvida's caution has become paranoia when it comes to protecting it's patents and technology. It's partially due to the dog-eat-dog nature of the industry but how a company values it's partners is also very important and I think they have really never been nice people to begin with. EVGA on the other hand has always seemed to be a good company, willing to go the extra mile for it's customers.

  • @SatyricL
    @SatyricL Рік тому

    Ever since I started putting together my own PCs, EVGA has always been the GPU I went with. Im still using my 1080 FTW I bought 4-5 years ago. Really wish I was in a position to grab one of their 30 series. No idea who I will go with in the future.

  • @fmhqbattousai
    @fmhqbattousai Рік тому +98

    I was never an "Nvidia" guy -- I was an "EVGA" guy...Every single GPU I've ever owned has been EVGA and now, I can only hope they move to AMD because it would be a massive shame to lose such a fantastic player in the GPU game. If they start making AMD cards, I'll start using AMD cards lol

    • @psynister6232
      @psynister6232 Рік тому +3

      Same same

    • @Hubris2
      @Hubris2 Рік тому

      You would think EVGA would seriously look at this (and maybe they are in discussions with AMD now) - I guess they needed to get a statement out addressing their lack of 4-series cards whether they are ready to announce working with AMD or not.

    • @Yatukih_001
      @Yatukih_001 Рік тому

      I liked their cards but I do not like all this Narcissism cra so I might want to switch to EVGA in the future.

    • @HasanAslan
      @HasanAslan Рік тому +1

      According to gamersnexus (who was at this meeting also) they don't plan to partner with amd or intel. They are going to stop gpu business all together.

    • @fmhqbattousai
      @fmhqbattousai Рік тому

      @@HasanAslan truly sad. I guess I'll just have to figure out what the amd equivalent aib is and go with them for the next GPU I buy

  • @VanquishedAgain
    @VanquishedAgain Рік тому +208

    Hopefully AMD capitalizes on this and forms a partnership

    • @macronomicus
      @macronomicus Рік тому +21

      Send in Lisa Su, she can make the deal happen, EVGA could spice up the lineup & it would inspire the other amd gpu makers competitive drive in that innovative way too. Win/Win!

    • @ran2wild370
      @ran2wild370 Рік тому

      It looks like they only can buy assembly lines from EVGA.

    • @troglodude980
      @troglodude980 Рік тому +1

      Well obviously, evga mobos arent that popular if they cut ties with the gpu market as a whole they wouldn't survive

    • @nanezferrer3565
      @nanezferrer3565 Рік тому +1

      EVGA CEO said they are not interested with INTEL and AMD

    • @EdwardVGrimm
      @EdwardVGrimm Рік тому +2

      @@nanezferrer3565 totally, but what if...

  • @jettruth
    @jettruth Рік тому

    Just ordered parts to build my 3rd computer but first in the last 15 years for video editing. Now I wish I had gotten some EVGA components but hadn’t known much about any of the companies being so long since my last build. It is sad to lose anything made by a company with principals.

  • @peanutbutterkeys3092
    @peanutbutterkeys3092 Рік тому

    This is so sad. I'm really glad you addressed the "What about current customers or people who bought recently" because I was scared coming into this video. I just recently bought a 3090 Ti from them like 2 months ago when prices dropped and haven't gotten the chance to even use it yet. I had come to like EVGA as a company when I was looking for a graphics card to buy, and was happy that I was buying from a good company. In the end though, I'm proud to own one of the last 3090's from them :)
    (I know it should be the least of my concerns, but the software for EVGA graphics cards will still work I assume, right?)

  • @_6-6_
    @_6-6_ Рік тому +120

    Evga was basically the most solid bang for buck gpus, if you count warranties. I only ever touched evga, asus or founders cards, but this is quite a blow, since evga has the best customer service in the gpu biz.
    We will miss you

    • @battosaijenkins946
      @battosaijenkins946 Рік тому

      @JayzTwoCents, the real question is if EVGA RTX cards will shoot up in value since they're bound to be discontinued no? 🤔🤔

    • @Kruscle
      @Kruscle Рік тому +2

      Their RMA service was top notch for GPUs.

    • @dethtour
      @dethtour Рік тому

      They're most likely going with AMD now. Nvidia had a bad reputation now.

    • @DefianceOrDishonor
      @DefianceOrDishonor Рік тому +1

      Yeah the Asus cards were nice too, but if you wanted quality and good support EVGA was the best choice imo. Asus has a pretty meh customer service experience. EVGA on the other hand really gave a damn about customer relations...
      I'm really going to miss EVGA, I don't think anything like this has really happened since I started building PCs over twenty years ago. I'm sure similar things have occurred, but never with brands that I actually care about.

    • @davidharrison6535
      @davidharrison6535 Рік тому +1

      Im on my 4th EVGA GARD All the old cards are still working back to my gtx560 660 760 now 3060

  • @tonymallory2795
    @tonymallory2795 Рік тому +228

    The way they handled themselves during the GPU scalping is why I chose to give them my money when I got the link to buy. I am very pleased with my purchase and experience with EVGA. The problem is nice guys finish last because others support companies like Nvidia with their money.
    This may just be the beginning of a new video card manufacturer and that will be good for us the customers. Like the history of how the Lamborghini came into building super cars.

    • @Demon09-_-
      @Demon09-_- Рік тому +6

      are you saying evga will make their own gpus? thats very very unlikely they are a company of like 280 and do not have anywhere the buying power needed or staffing to start producing chips them self. The amount of R&D expenses to get into gpu design let alone compete in it against amd and nvidia would be astronomical at this point.

    • @Demon09-_-
      @Demon09-_- Рік тому

      @Zippy Dastrange the issue I see is I'd venture alot of the reason their psu's sells are ok is because of the people already their for gpus. their mobo sales and others dont account for much

    • @gerogyzurkov2259
      @gerogyzurkov2259 Рік тому +1

      Difference is beginning of Lamborghini actually was in a way simpler era and the fact he had the manufacturing capabilities to build said cars and connections to get them build. VS GPUs that cost literally 100 millions of dollars just for r&d and ofc let alone way more for manufacturing.

  • @MiguelRivera-ht1od
    @MiguelRivera-ht1od Рік тому

    Im agree with you i had a gtx 950 evga and it was an awesome card.

  • @enrique6335
    @enrique6335 Рік тому

    I'm sad to see this. My first real gaming card was a 1060 3GB SC and even such an "entry level" card felt heavy and premium. I later bought a 1070 FTW Hybrid and it was cool and quiet. Since then I've always had a soft spot for them.
    Even bought one of their mice.