Mixing Strings For Neoclassical Music
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- Опубліковано 29 чер 2024
- Mixing strings in neoclassical or modern classical music is a bit different to traditional classical music or pop and so in this video I take you on a mix walkthrough to show how I created a big, full and wide string mix in a recent mix featuring only strings and piano.
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Timestamps:
00:00 - Start
04:08 - Session Layout
05:43 - Mix bus plugins
09:24 - Listening to the rough mix
11:20 - Mix bus plugins continued
20:19 - Post processing group busses
23:36 - Strings bus processing
30:59 - Violin tracks processing
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Mixing strings and orchestral elements in ambient music requires a different touch compared to traditional classical music or pop. Depending on the emotion and feel you want the mix to impart, you can use EQ, Tape and compression to sculpt the perfect sound. In this video, I walkthrough a recent mix and talk through my plugin choices and reasoning behind the way I mixed real strings in a sparse and beautiful piano and string composition.
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Do you have any tips for mixing strings?
The only tip that I would consider worthy of mentioning to someone with your skills and knowledge is the SSL Fusion Stereo Image which I absolutely love. Just the included presets add so much width and bring what ever it is applied to alive, and I'm still learning how to really use it. To my ears you have added detail to this track as well as making it wider, fuller and warmer, quite amzing. Thank you for taking the time to make this video.
Nice video, very useful. One thing i would say is the Sonnox Inflator is notorious for aliasing, i would check out Sonnox Limiter's "Enhance" slider or ARBOREAL's PiMAX for the inflator effect. Check out Paul Third's video: ua-cam.com/video/95wT6g16lno/v-deo.html
Thank you very much for your master class. I have been recording and mixing orchestras for many years and I have very rarely met people who explain as well and in detail as you do. I sincerely congratulate you. Greetings from Argentina!
You're very welcome!
A pleasure to watch, listen and learn. Thankyou Sara.
Thanks for watching!
What an absolute gem of a video Sara, incredibly useful for me. Thanks a lot!
Glad it was helpful!
What a tutorial! Sara, thank you so much for such a valuable lesson. Beautiful stuff!
Glad it was helpful!
Incredible useful video and presentation. Stellar job Sara!
Thanks Dirk!
Thanks for the fantastic tips . I improved my strings immediately. Greetings Andy
Excellent!
Love this!! 👏👏👏
Glad you liked it!
Hi Sara. I have watched your PLP video a faur few times as classical processing / mixing is rarely covered on youtube and I loved what you did and the same applys to this video. I especially appreciate that you take the time to explaine your plugin choices and why you chose a particular pluging together with how you use it. A track that I am trying to mix at the moment has a string section that runs through the whole song, across 4 octives, so this video has really helped.
Kenneth Green, thank you so much :)
This is very refreshing, I don't see as much mixing lessons for neoclassical or jazz music as I'd like. So, thank you Sara!
You're so welcome!
Fantastic tutorial! Thank you Sara
Glad to help!
Very interesting topic. Watching now!
Glad you enjoyed it
Great as usual
Thank you!
Your're great, Sara!!! Thank you very much!
@saracartersimplymixing did you know the original track as you were mixing it?
You're so welcome!
Thanks for sharing!
Thanks for watching!
@@SaraCarterSimplyMixing You're welcome!
I’m glad I watched this just to discover such a beautiful piece of music!
Amazing!
I’ve been struggling to capture the sound on a string mix which my client wants and your walkthrough of your chains and approach has been extremely helpful. I’ve learned a lotZ Thank you so much!
That's great! Glad to help
One of the few youtube channels I specifically search for when in need of mixing tips!
Amazing, thank you!
This is a beautiful composition by the way
Yes, it is. Shout out to BPMoore
I need this video bcuz I have a lot of orchestral music in my compositions
Glad it helps
Brilliant! This is one genre I'm doing although with vocals and percussion so, this is really great to see how `i can make mixes sound bigger and fuller. Time to get on your Pro Mix Academy course. See you on the other side!!!
Great to hear!
Great video. Inspiring
Thanks so much!
Amazing processing.......
Thanks!
Thanks Sara.
You're welcome!
Brilliant! I make dark ambient and use a lot of strings🤗🤗
Wonderful!
This is fantastic! I'd love to see more content like this.
Quick question; do you feel like top-down mixing is better suited to certain genres or do you apply it to everything?
On a mix like this it seems like a very efficient technique, but I wonder if you have tracks that are a little more temperamental might it be better to start there, so you aren't applying 'fixes' too broadly?
Thanks
IT'S NEW AGE MUSIC!!!! (Why don't composers like being called 'New Age' these days - I'm PROUD of it!)
Chris.
It's that as well!
Lovely video, as always, Sara!
If reverb is not baked into the sampled string sounds (or I'd like more), I'll employ the Bricasti M7 reverb emulation plugin Seventh Heaven. I'll start with the Clear Hall or A&M Chamber preset and play with the pre-delay until it sounds appropriate to the piece. Also, surgically using stereo wideners as you do on specific items/groups/busses is brilliant! It minimizes the artefacts that may result when using them on a whole mix. I do something similar where all of my reverb, delay, and harmonizer effects returns are fed into a dedicated buss. I have a stereo widener on that buss only.
I just listened to your interview with Matt Boudreau on the latest WCA podcast #382. It's always a treat to hear what you're up to. Keep up the great work!
All My Best,
chaz
Thanks Chaz!
I use the Sound Toys Microshift to widen my strings and if I need them even wider I use the Waves S1
Good tip!
Using a De-esser on the strings. Can't believe I've never thought of that.
It's good isn't it!
Sure is!
And I found out it also works on harsh bell sounds :)
Hi, really love this track and your mix of it. Any tips on how to pan strings with piano please?
I would also find this useful!
@SaracarterSimplyMixing. My goodness what a gift you have- I have used EVERY technique in this video for my recent neo-Classical work, of course adjusting the lay of the land to fit my work
I do have a burning question I hope you would answer- I'm missing something here. The Reverb? Was this already baked into the stems when you received them? I'm not seeing a reverb bus here or if it is, I'm sorry I missed it. Cam you please advise? Im wondering how that factors into everything that you have explained so brilliantly here.
Yes, reverb was baked in by the producer. I often still will add my own if I think it needs more
sara thx tip
you're welcome!
Hi Sara - loved this video! Perhaps I missed it but I didn't see/hear anything about what relative loudness levels you prefer among the strings (violin, viola, cello, double bass). Do you make them all level, or are some louder than the others? I assume these would be balanced using RMS levels...
Good point! I ask the producer to bake that into the tracks by sending me stereo groups
@@SaraCarterSimplyMixing Thanks - I just found this excellent 3 min YT video by Beat Kaufmann on how to do it from the Producer's standpoint... First choose a section of the piece where all the instruments are playing in a ff section, then (by ear), balance 1> Violas & Celli, then 2> Dbl Bass, 3> 2nd Violins, and finally 4> 1st Violins / melody... - this gives you the basic starting point. After that mix dynamically and musically to what sounds best - and (I assume) ride the sections with automation throughout the piece. Brilliant! ua-cam.com/video/bZkaI3V22cM/v-deo.html
is it possible to achieve such good mixes with good quality sample libraries ou reckon? I've been composing neo classical for a bit and my sound never comes out as lively.
Yes, absolutely. The quality of the sample library (and the programming) means less work and fewer plugins, which I find leads to the openness I think you're referring to.
hi Sara missing your videos, hope all is well
Yes, in the midst of a few changes here at Simply Mixing Towers! Stay Tuned!
@@SaraCarterSimplyMixing good to know your ok