UK Muslims, Elections and the Power of Nightmares with Peter Oborne

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  • @TheThinkingMuslim
    @TheThinkingMuslim  7 місяців тому +27

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    • @ryojs4286
      @ryojs4286 7 місяців тому +1

      MAKE A THIRD PARTY: MUSLIM BASED
      just like the christian liberals have the right, and the apostate christians have the left

    • @neilcolley25
      @neilcolley25 7 місяців тому +1

      two good man

    • @thelaststraw1467
      @thelaststraw1467 7 місяців тому +1

      first time on this channel. i hear the book "why the west is wrong abt islam". i do consider myself in some ways islamophobic hence the title intrigued me. but i'd like to know if Mr.Oborne identifies as a muslim himself. if he does then the read will only result in a regurgitation of muslim ideas and i'll be discouraged to read it.

    • @marygarrapa3537
      @marygarrapa3537 7 місяців тому +1

      One aspect of Sunak's attitude can be seen as reverting to type. We can't forget the way muslims are seen and being treated in India and of course the question of Kashmir. He's behaving more like an Indian than someone with the British sacrality of fair play. Surely this sense of justice, the pride and dignity of being British cannot be trampled on. A prime minister needs to share, if not personify, the main tenet of the people he leads. Even people whose first language isn't English, use the expression "fair play" with respect. How can we throw out what has always been the shining light of Britishness. Any citizen can disagree or have their own ethic, but NOT the leader of the country, surely.

    • @mcounlall9042
      @mcounlall9042 7 місяців тому +1

      @thelaststraw1467 have you found out if Oborne is a Muslim?

  • @ghostcat5303
    @ghostcat5303 7 місяців тому +150

    Peter is one of the rare breed of conservatives that haven't completely lost their minds or their morals.

    • @beammeup8458
      @beammeup8458 7 місяців тому +2

      WE NEED ACTION NOT PRETTY SPEECHES ...

    • @Transformers-oe5jj
      @Transformers-oe5jj 7 місяців тому

      ​@@beammeup8458we need both

    • @ErinStephanie-mf2qk
      @ErinStephanie-mf2qk 7 місяців тому

      Most Tories preach conservatism. Peter Oborne understands conservatism.

  • @alib7489
    @alib7489 7 місяців тому +102

    Haven't watched this, but I felt compelled to comment. Peter Oborne is a man of real integrity and honesty. His book "The Fate of Abraham: Why the West is wrong about Islam" is an absolute must-read for everyone.

    • @myla6135
      @myla6135 7 місяців тому +3

      @@deepsareen1 Why do you think someone who thinks and then changes their mind having seriously thought is somehow to be criticised? Not that you are being clear about this in your odd comment but normally u-turn is a phrase used when sneering.
      BTW what do you mean by "prone to judgemental"?? I can't work it out.

    • @sweetaznspice1
      @sweetaznspice1 3 місяці тому

      Thanks for the recommendation. Peter Oborne is a true English gentleman and a man of courage.

  • @noraurrasantana
    @noraurrasantana 7 місяців тому +124

    I love Peter Oborne, a man with integrity, principles and very intelligent ❤

    • @grahamt5924
      @grahamt5924 7 місяців тому

      I disagree with you.

    • @johnwright9372
      @johnwright9372 7 місяців тому +7

      ​@@grahamt5924Oborne is that rare example of a former Tory whose intellect and conscience have overcome his political bias. He simply looks at the facts and can see the forces at work which have been working against the national interest.

  • @CineRanter
    @CineRanter 7 місяців тому +76

    Excellent interview. The UK is in a seriously tragic state

  • @allykhan8594
    @allykhan8594 7 місяців тому +112

    Vote for independent parties to break parliament.

    • @MicheleLLOYD-bk2mt
      @MicheleLLOYD-bk2mt 7 місяців тому +2

      Democracy….. ahhh. Don’t you just LOVE IT ! ? A land where government DOES what the people actually WANT & NEED ! Oh dear…You NEVER had that mate. NEVER will. BECAUSE…You have the WRONG political system. Maybe it was a good idea 300 years ago, but not for today nor tomorrow. It generally attracts the wrong sort of people for a start!. I mean, just look at their schoolyard behaviour where “point scoring” put-downs of other elected members of parliament is considered a “win”! Essentially most of them are “bully salesmen” who try to persuade and bribe you, that ONLY THEIR ideas are great (vote for MEEEE). Sadly, ALL parties do the same - Was designed to be like that !! The notion that ALL the PEOPLE HAVE CLEAR NEEDS is not even considered!!. Another childhood dream is that “Competition” yields the best results! This has some truth, but only in the very short term!. COOPERATION YIELDS THE BEST CONTINUOUS SUSTAINABLE IMPROVEMENTS. JUST PROGRESS LIKE YOU’VE NEVER SEEN BEFORE
      Establish a national “Register of Visions” summarising the Will of the People. (Health, Housing, Education, Employment, Crime & Safety, Drugs, Immigration, Taxation, Societal Cohesion, Foreign Affairs, Welfare, Trade & Industry, etc etc ). A register Established at census time for each Voter - with real-time Web access for timely updates like Gaza, Ukraine etc etc ad nauseam. And don’t worry, AI will make short work of creating a succinct coherent unambiguous statement of requirements from the millions of Vision submissions! Certainly a BETTER WAY for the Nation. (Unless of course you are already part of the 1% thriving/thieving elite , then yes, you will experience a relative decline in your unwarranted privilege, decadence and legalised theft!).
      At the moment, China looks remarkably democratic when compared with you lot !

    • @mcounlall9042
      @mcounlall9042 7 місяців тому +1

      @micheleLLOYD,
      Good comment , which I would like to share , and expand on.

    • @MicheleLLOYD-bk2mt
      @MicheleLLOYD-bk2mt 7 місяців тому

      @@mcounlall9042 I would love to share and discuss. The “formula” is simple.

    • @epic6434
      @epic6434 4 місяці тому

      ​@@MicheleLLOYD-bk2mt1% thieving elites? It's something that was coined by politicians the 1% and before that it was a biker patch. I mean there's no doubt you are Democrat you use vague terms to describe grievance and no details about your version of politics just naming off categories of society factors that function for the people like public services? With all those cases in your basket why worry about Ukraine and Gaza ? You can't do anything about it you can't get Parliament splitting it's own hairs they're just a public government body of representatives right ? How many arm bands would you need? 😂 I'm kidding but seriously are the focused on the issues of England or the British Royal Military I'm sure you can't touch on that if not in it's program and the UK deal with Royals and Nobel aristocracy I'm sure they have judicial and executive power's and legislative power's seem to be slipping out of parliament so you could just be subjects if the King finds reason to suspend parliament till he flogs each one in the dungeons for an ole fashion inquisition how else can they spill blood and on release they might take it out on their constituents for failing them how they can sign on to allow entry they could force you to sweep chimneys work like a sweaty peasant on limited rights you might beg for a life jacket and swim back for your democracy 😂 I'm kidding but if I had to break in new boots...

  • @pieinher67
    @pieinher67 7 місяців тому +59

    Peter is so right. Sunak and Starma just HAVE TO GO.

  • @mhas9110
    @mhas9110 7 місяців тому +122

    I hope that the Muslims will wake up and boycott Labour

    • @littlechestnutorchard
      @littlechestnutorchard 7 місяців тому

      Muslims needs to make a long term plan to fight these (not very new)secterian social engineering project designed and executed by the” you know who they are” this is a very long therm project. You got to prepare yourself.
      Get married early and make plenty of children.
      Immensely invest higher education for your children, better position yourself in the social spectrum .
      If necessary change your names to attract less attention to known part of the xenophobic groups.
      Be more humble and charitable to create better image against your rivals.
      this is a long struggle and I am sure you people will succeed at the end.

    • @jim-es8qk
      @jim-es8qk 7 місяців тому

      You have no clue how our system works do you? It'll achieve nothing.

    • @firebyrd437
      @firebyrd437 7 місяців тому +7

      ​@jim-es8qk you change nothing with your opinion

    • @anshuraj4277
      @anshuraj4277 7 місяців тому

      Haha.. Then labor will crackdown on immigration lol

    • @mradeelmirza
      @mradeelmirza 7 місяців тому +5

      Only vote Independents and Workers Party.

  • @andrewreeve5537
    @andrewreeve5537 7 місяців тому +27

    Peter Oborne, the kind of Englishman I have always admired; an intelligent person with values and a kind heart. Real strength.

    • @UmarWazir
      @UmarWazir 7 місяців тому

      There were Tories with some principles. There were Englishmen standards. However, they are nearly extinct.

  • @jake751
    @jake751 7 місяців тому +24

    I have so much respect for this journalist ❤

  • @ArsenalTrill
    @ArsenalTrill 7 місяців тому +33

    The Legendary Peter Oborne, with insightful wisdom and true investigative journalism ❤️🍉

  • @matrixman1947
    @matrixman1947 7 місяців тому +35

    Muslims must help vote for a 3rd party with the understanding that they will champion Muslim concerns which are being ignored by the Bigoted Conservatives and Labour.

  • @annenunney9907
    @annenunney9907 7 місяців тому +21

    Sunak makes me feel ashamed of the way this government is treating the genocide in Gaza shocking

  • @jennyhirschowitz1999
    @jennyhirschowitz1999 7 місяців тому +32

    Thank you for the introduction to this scholar. Please vote Andrew Feinstein for St. Pancras & Holbern……… you may know him …. An honourable man, who served in Nelson Mandela’s cabinet.

    • @fareedaismail9229
      @fareedaismail9229 7 місяців тому

      I hope Andrew Feinstein is successful - defeat Starmer

  • @mtt4368
    @mtt4368 7 місяців тому +29

    Horrifying the Islamophobia from our political leaders

  • @NK-ht3fo
    @NK-ht3fo 7 місяців тому +10

    Peter who's a unique individual, who has the guts to stand for his beliefs and values

  • @Archie460
    @Archie460 7 місяців тому +25

    It would be so nice if Jeremy Corbyn, could be Britain's next Prime Minister.

  • @shamimsameja4536
    @shamimsameja4536 7 місяців тому +14

    A very intelligent man. He has written a brilliant book The Fate of Abraham

  • @wwk17
    @wwk17 7 місяців тому +7

    Loved it - Peter Oborne as always such a delight!

  • @roboldx9171
    @roboldx9171 7 місяців тому +14

    For a Hindu PM of a Christian country to declare war on Islam is obscene. What could possibly go wrong?

    • @littlechestnutorchard
      @littlechestnutorchard 7 місяців тому +8

      This is not coincidental, this is all planned for a social engineering project by certain section of the “you know who” objective is “we will see in the near future “

    • @vinlondon8904
      @vinlondon8904 7 місяців тому

      ​​@@littlechestnutorchardyep, all planned.
      Don't be naive as seeing things fallen at their places randomly at the same time.
      There's no coincidences in deep state politics.

  • @infinitebeast5517
    @infinitebeast5517 7 місяців тому +14

    Thanks for the great episode, i hope we wake up and start participating politically if not for ourselves then for others abroad

  • @fabinasetati8736
    @fabinasetati8736 7 місяців тому +8

    Excellent. Jazakallah Khair

  • @teachernisrinezenati5488
    @teachernisrinezenati5488 7 місяців тому +6

    Such an amazing guest! I can listen to him over and over again.

  • @Francis-n3n
    @Francis-n3n 7 місяців тому +6

    Thank you for explaining te decency value and importance of our Muslim community. Never let our pathetic sectarian leaders away with their bias.I have had the privilege of working with members of this community overseas and have always experienced their decency, hard work and care given to both me and and other members of the non Muslim community

  • @MasrurMia-e6q
    @MasrurMia-e6q 7 місяців тому +10

    Great analysis as always Peter ❤❤❤❤

  • @zahidakhalid4834
    @zahidakhalid4834 7 місяців тому +4

    What a wonderful and full of wisdom man

  • @rajajiskani5879
    @rajajiskani5879 7 місяців тому +1

    Love him. He is the kind of man Britain and the west needs as a leader.

  • @r_ds8057
    @r_ds8057 7 місяців тому +11

    Great interview. State capture is what the South Africans called it. Two oarties. No difference.

  • @asadr1166
    @asadr1166 7 місяців тому +3

    Peter is highly intelligent and articulate, more importantly he has a good moral compass and highlights the truth

  • @mmb811
    @mmb811 7 місяців тому +6

    100% correct, there can ONLY BE A ONE STATE SOLUTION NOW, a PALESTINIAN STATE!

  • @SalamMajid786
    @SalamMajid786 7 місяців тому +1

    Peter is a man of integrity. 💪

  • @andrewgoldman9019
    @andrewgoldman9019 7 місяців тому +8

    Great interview.

  • @peacenow6618
    @peacenow6618 7 місяців тому +4

    May Allah Accept your works, and make it a means of acceptance and Guidance for the Ummah!

  • @kashaf900
    @kashaf900 7 місяців тому +1

    There is something about his voice, intellect and intelligence that’s wonderful

  • @fatimavorajee5975
    @fatimavorajee5975 7 місяців тому +14

    Sunak the unelected Prime Minister,must be reminded that he represents, UK and not the Modi and RSS from India, even though his parents immigrated to UK from India.

    • @frankezane583
      @frankezane583 7 місяців тому

      Sunak doesn’t care about RSS…..give me any evidence that he does. He only cares about money and his opportunity

    • @altaf1395
      @altaf1395 7 місяців тому +1

      Sunak's paternal grandfather was from Gujranwala (in present-day Pakistan. while his maternal grandfather was from Ludhiana (in present-day India, both cities at the time were in Punjab province, British India. His grandparents migrated to East Africa, and then to the United Kingdom in the 1960s

    • @naradaian
      @naradaian 7 місяців тому

      What are you smoking - he is a transnational elite - he isnt from anywhere and is loyal to who owns him…relying on ethnicity went out 1000’s of years ago

    • @frankezane583
      @frankezane583 7 місяців тому

      Go back to sleep Fatima……Sunak doesn’t care about RSS, it’s all about money and power

  • @Hesham_963
    @Hesham_963 7 місяців тому +8

    Nigel Farage's interview on BBC was clearly anti-Muslim and Islamophobic however we didn't hear serious backlash. How would the reaction been had Muslim was replaced by Jew.

  • @sheilamashali6426
    @sheilamashali6426 7 місяців тому +2

    Peter Osborne an authentic honest journalist.

  • @TheDragonaf1
    @TheDragonaf1 7 місяців тому +4

    16:32 and 29:32 is an amazing breath of fresh air

  • @ukhilali7418
    @ukhilali7418 7 місяців тому +13

    Sunak / Starmer both ultimate liars!!. full stop 🛑

    • @naradaian
      @naradaian 7 місяців тому

      Dont forget Sturgeon and whatever the welsh loon is called

  • @sailyousuf
    @sailyousuf 7 місяців тому

    I find Peter Oborne always speaks his mind without fear or favour he sides with marginalised people even if its unfashionable he has my respect and many like me kudos to him .

  • @ABDULRHEEM-kr1kr
    @ABDULRHEEM-kr1kr 7 місяців тому +8

    Convey message of Islam to all people of the world and to everyone who will come also convey message of Islam to all world leaders................

  • @brasherish
    @brasherish 7 місяців тому +9

    Fascinating interview with Peter Oborne.

  • @richardcaves3601
    @richardcaves3601 7 місяців тому +5

    Nah, from NZ, I can tell you for absolute certain, that it's not the two party system that's buggered UK politics. It's the Westminster first-past-the-post election system. If, and when, the UK joins the rest of the civilised world, and adopts a Proportional Representation election system, specifically, STV or Single Transferable Vote, system, the two party lock on elections will be broken.
    It's down to you to either set up a single issue party - Electoral Reform Party - or to back whichever minor party that promises this.
    You get what you vote for.😊😊😊😊😊😊
    You get exactly the amount of democracy you bother to get off your arses and work for.

  • @Rantitoutloud
    @Rantitoutloud 7 місяців тому +1

    Loved that perspective from both of you

  • @MJB0110
    @MJB0110 7 місяців тому +9

    Be they from the left or right good luck to the Independent candidates. They might help save our democracy.

    • @naradaian
      @naradaian 7 місяців тому

      Dont be daft it isnt a democracy and it was never ours

  • @AdamAdam-t7v7r
    @AdamAdam-t7v7r 7 місяців тому +1

    Excellent exchange of perspectives by Peter and eloquently chaired by brother Jalal…. Would be great to have Peter back post elections…. Would be also great to see what Peters thoughts are in relation to Afghanistan and the future with British foreign policy.

  • @erikdalna211
    @erikdalna211 7 місяців тому +4

    We should learn the UKIP lesson. A party doesn’t need to win to radically change things. All that’s needed is to scare one of the main parties so much that they change their behaviour.
    This election isn’t our time but if we start now and get organised we will be able to make a difference when people start questioning Labour.

  • @daventry2
    @daventry2 7 місяців тому +1

    I agree with Peter Oborne, British muslims actually embody British values more than some sections of the indigenous community. Muslims are an asset to any community, they have a highly functioning moral compass, we see this when parents started protesting outside of schools on the issue of RSE and their stance on Gaza. Where others were debating the pros and cons on moral and societal matters, muslims have insight & lead from the front. Mr Oborne stands with people of decency and integrity, those qualities are part and parcel of any responsible muslim who takes their role seriously within the family, in education, at work and all other areas of society.

  • @ike637
    @ike637 7 місяців тому +2

    In a 2 party system , such as the uk has , (usa, Australia, canada). All mossad have to do is buy both sides. Its much harder to do where theres multi party systems.

  • @1goal1
    @1goal1 7 місяців тому +2

    Great podcast.

    • @EMidMSO
      @EMidMSO 7 місяців тому +1

      It really was wasn't it. I'm not usually a Podcast fan, but I was hooked from the start. Great guest & superb interviewer. The idea that the independent Islamic candidates were the real patriots is so true & a very important insight.
      PR with diverse parties is essential for our multicultural society, not least to avoid entryism, Manchurian candidates (eg: Helen Whately ex McKinsey & Company), minority capture (eg: ERG etc) & government by lobbyists (eg: Tufton St). Subscribed

  • @faizankut
    @faizankut 7 місяців тому +2

    Excellent interview

  • @عبدالله-ن6ه2ص
    @عبدالله-ن6ه2ص 7 місяців тому +3

    My brother, I advise you to host Mustafa Barghouti. He is a son of Jerusalem, a politician, and part of the government. He knows the Palestinian issue better than anyone else.
    Dr. Talal Abu Ghazaleh, one of the eyewitnesses to the Nakba, I recommend hosting him
    Salman Al-Ansari is the best political commentator you can get about what Saudi Arabia is planning regarding the Palestine issue.

  • @AndyWarpol
    @AndyWarpol 7 місяців тому +7

    I want to see Oborne debate Douglas Murray. Murray who is far too intelligent to claim ignorance as an excuse for his current stance on Israel (and apparently being fine with the tens of thousands of deaths of children).

    • @pierzing.glint1sh76
      @pierzing.glint1sh76 7 місяців тому

      Douglas is effectively a Zionist propagandist at this point, he has a very fixed point of view.

    • @naradaian
      @naradaian 7 місяців тому +3

      Its not a stance he is an owned sockpuppet who reads,the script provided his stance is pretending to be an intellectualand sort of patriot

    • @sign69
      @sign69 7 місяців тому +2

      how do you perceive murray as intelligent he has some plausible conservatism but then he's just a loony muppet...

    • @EMidMSO
      @EMidMSO 7 місяців тому

      Sorry, I'm all for free speech but .... Douglas Murray is just too revolting to listen to

  • @AshrafZaman-dy6cr
    @AshrafZaman-dy6cr 7 місяців тому +1

    Vote Workers Party and make the change .

  • @Abzy886
    @Abzy886 7 місяців тому +6

    Looking forward to this eppy

  • @peacenow6618
    @peacenow6618 7 місяців тому

    جزاک اللہ خیرا

  • @AishaMoses-dp6rn
    @AishaMoses-dp6rn 7 місяців тому +5

    I admire Peter Oborne. He is a person with integrity. But his admiration for Margaret Thatcher is misplaced. She was not honourable. She may have been willing to stand up to Israel but she also avidly supported apartheid South Africa and tried to undermine the anti-apartheid movement. She was also totally bigoted against the Irish. Also, free market capitalism was a terrible idea that played and is still playing a big part in the erosion of democracy and any ideas about a rules based international order. Just look at the US.

    • @dweamy1
      @dweamy1 7 місяців тому

      I totally lost it when she was positive about Pol Pot!

    • @minekara6407
      @minekara6407 7 місяців тому

      None of the state we are in would be if Thatcher was around. She was an excellent PM despite her faillings

  • @naseemkad
    @naseemkad 7 місяців тому +1

    Muslims believe in helping the weak, kindness towards the elderly, stand up for truth and a caring people largely working in caring industries such as the NHS and many risked their lives during COVID

  • @bridget9396
    @bridget9396 7 місяців тому +4

    Why is Peter Orban not mentioning the Workers party of Britain? I do like him but just wondering.

    • @minekara6407
      @minekara6407 7 місяців тому +1

      He has appeared on moats a number of times with George Galloway

  • @s0vy
    @s0vy 7 місяців тому +5

    We will survive another 14 years under the Tories in sha Allah. I cannot survive that long seeing Hind and Sidrah’s face every night.

    • @schaudhry4976
      @schaudhry4976 7 місяців тому

      😢🇵🇸

    • @TessTearoe-zp5xv
      @TessTearoe-zp5xv 7 місяців тому

      You are delusional. Labour/Tory same thing

    • @s0vy
      @s0vy 7 місяців тому

      @@TessTearoe-zp5xv I think you misunderstood, I didn't say I would vote for them

  • @mohamedyusuf5569
    @mohamedyusuf5569 7 місяців тому +2

    Sunak and Keir are two politicians who have similar approach to politics but on two different mediums.

  • @TezLivin
    @TezLivin 7 місяців тому +4

    Excellent analysis, but wrong about Thatcher, Kinnock and Lammy the Liar.

  • @naradaian
    @naradaian 7 місяців тому +3

    It was all going so well until Peter said ‘Starmers moral standing….’

  • @ruthgillett3136
    @ruthgillett3136 7 місяців тому +2

    Of course Starmer is doing the same ‘triangulation’ as Blair, except it’s actually Blair who is doing it through Starmer. No one should kid themselves that Starmer is capable of doing any of this on his own. Galvanised by naked, blind, personal ambition, Starmer will do everything he is told. They can’t hide his inadequacies when it comes to debates and Blair can’t do that for him, the solution is to limit his debates to only Sunak and not allow him to go up against anyone more competent. Starmer was head hunted by Blair, whose son was sent to clps to try to gauge what the people of Westminster thought before he was put in position to succeed Corbyn

  • @abdelchadli1637
    @abdelchadli1637 7 місяців тому +1

    Pragmatic , straight forward analysis😂🎉😅

  • @alexh1487
    @alexh1487 7 місяців тому +1

    Be A Decent Human Being. and all of a sudden all the other labels don't mean anything. He is right....

  • @azadbux4653
    @azadbux4653 7 місяців тому

    Im a proud brit, thank you sir

  • @jim-es8qk
    @jim-es8qk 7 місяців тому

    It's working exactly like it's supposed to. Keeping the political debate in the centre ground and away from extremism. Why would an election be hijacked by muslim issues?

  • @viscountengland7826
    @viscountengland7826 7 місяців тому +2

    This presenter criticised George Galloway as an opportunist. I hope you take any criticism back of GG.

  • @муза-ъ8б
    @муза-ъ8б 7 місяців тому +1

    great

  • @louisdisbury9759
    @louisdisbury9759 7 місяців тому +1

    I have to say this, I've migrated to Asia here I cannot own property, work, or get permanent residency I have to renew my visa every year, But Ive learned to speak the language,Ive learned the country's history and have Integrated with the locals as far as I can as a Foreigner, and I respect the laws here the people's religion and beliefs and I now live in a local community and am treated by everyone here as one of their own,and I also accept fully because of the difference in culture and my DNA make up here I will never be native to the region. That's something everyone can learn from when living in a country whose culture doesn't align with the country you're moving from. Multi culture doesn't exist here in Asia and it never will.

    • @Kman666
      @Kman666 7 місяців тому

      It's easier to integrate when the society has not completely lost its moral and ethical moorings.

  • @maryannechilds6459
    @maryannechilds6459 7 місяців тому +1

    Feinstein n george galloway gv me hope for democracy. Unelected sunak is a non starter.

  • @deedee8568
    @deedee8568 7 місяців тому +1

    Wow, I believe there are criticisms of David Lammys opinion, on video; keep your hat on.

  • @wasifmahmood834
    @wasifmahmood834 7 місяців тому +1

    Some Adam Curtis throwback there.

  • @kenjack6674
    @kenjack6674 7 місяців тому +4

    Come on peter he has NO Morals 😊..and Never has had 😊

    • @ellengran6814
      @ellengran6814 7 місяців тому

      I would argue most western leaders today have the same moral as Donald Trump. They believe in winners and loosers. Peace is achieved by war (destroying the opponent), not by negotiation/mutual respect. Unike Trump, they use nice words like democracy and freedom, but their actions are the same = brutal force to get their will.

  • @varinderpalsharma4420
    @varinderpalsharma4420 7 місяців тому

    Voting any party means selecting capitalism as an ideology.
    Voting in Islam is alone for a ruler who implements Islam.

    • @TheThinkingMuslim
      @TheThinkingMuslim  7 місяців тому

      Sorry brother, but this is a rather simplistic view of what the independent movement is about.

  • @beammeup8458
    @beammeup8458 7 місяців тому +1

    We are moving towards anarchy: I am not politically wise... even I can see that... WE NEED CLEVER PEOPLE TO GIVE US ANSWERS ....but every one is being so clever after the event : no one has a way forewarn. Democracy has failed. 0

  • @Shaggy-8392
    @Shaggy-8392 7 місяців тому +6

    What do you expect. He is a hindu supportive of the RSS/BJP and is a friend of apartheird israel so of course he will frame muslims in an islamaphobic way.

  • @ESuccessMasters
    @ESuccessMasters 7 місяців тому

    🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻💕💕💕♥️♥️♥️🌟🌟

  • @emzed6053
    @emzed6053 7 місяців тому

  • @georgyporgy2887
    @georgyporgy2887 7 місяців тому +1

    Muslim's voting for Labour and Tory ? 😂 That's worse than Turkeys voting for Christmas- or Lambs voting for Eid!

  • @RayOfHope8
    @RayOfHope8 7 місяців тому

    ❤️❤️🌹🌹🌹🤲🤲🤲🤲

  • @sadeekahsaban162
    @sadeekahsaban162 7 місяців тому +1

    Um ya🙄 we didn't need the non-muslim guy to tell us that ‼️

  • @EditFahey
    @EditFahey 7 місяців тому +1

    I am just a bit worried about voting Indipendent cause it is a big roof with no clear unified ideas apart from being opposition to Labour and Tory . Voting Indipendent might turn up giving your vote for something you don't agree.The enemy of my enemy is not my friend!!VOTE GREEN

  • @kayedal-haddad
    @kayedal-haddad 7 місяців тому

    Former Muslims who voted Labour - where do they go?

    • @erikdalna211
      @erikdalna211 7 місяців тому +2

      Green and independent.

    • @johnwright9372
      @johnwright9372 7 місяців тому +3

      The same place all the former Labour Party members and traditional Labour supporters go. New party. It would be disastrous for Muslims to allow the country to be divided along religious lines, as it would play right into the hands of Israel and its allies. It isn't all about one group.

    • @erikdalna211
      @erikdalna211 7 місяців тому +1

      @@deepsareen1 Off you go then.

    • @minekara6407
      @minekara6407 7 місяців тому +1

      Workers party of Britain

  • @mariamacielm8691
    @mariamacielm8691 7 місяців тому

    The mayor of London isn’t a Muslim ???? What happens in London ?

  • @DeixisDeixis
    @DeixisDeixis 7 місяців тому

    42:59 the attack on Britishness

  • @Hbj0000Rsia
    @Hbj0000Rsia 7 місяців тому

    Most parties the pick certain people or section and pick on them to cover their failures as well as using the as a hat trick when needed

  • @brendaal-rifai2919
    @brendaal-rifai2919 7 місяців тому

    I thought Hindus consider Muslims anathema so that's probably no surprise to see Rushi Sunak behave this way.

  • @inferno8008
    @inferno8008 7 місяців тому +1

    @28:49 we know exactly who the big money people are...lets be honest Peter..

  • @MicheleLLOYD-bk2mt
    @MicheleLLOYD-bk2mt 7 місяців тому

    ALL faiths should be respected, for many reasons. Chief being that people NEED THEM, DESPITE them BEING THE SAME AS SANTA.

  • @F-J.
    @F-J. 7 місяців тому

    Labour are no better. Labour are baligerant.

  • @littlechestnutorchard
    @littlechestnutorchard 7 місяців тому +1

    Muslim, don’t intimidate by the current politics. What is happening is carefully planned and executed social engineering project by certain part of the political spectrum. The objective is change the public perception against you for the future operation like what happened before the Iraq war.
    Study hard , get married early and make plenty of children , if necessary change your names to make it less visible to islamafobs . Involve with politics. Create a much better image than your rivals. This a very long struggle against a certain group of people but at the end you will succeed.

  • @pauloseara1638
    @pauloseara1638 7 місяців тому

    First past the post will sort all the issue with the loss of support of muslims to Labour or Conservatives over Palestine.
    End of problem.
    This is the old liberal classic strategy.

  • @laowai769
    @laowai769 7 місяців тому +1

    "We stick up for the underdog", except for the time when you colonized a quarter of the world, killed 50m in Australia, Maori, slave trade etc. 😂 😂 😂 😂 By stick up for he must have meant kill and enslave.

  • @albarrany-ny2ol
    @albarrany-ny2ol 7 місяців тому

    What is the difference between settlers and colons? Do settlers and colons has any right in the land of the indigenous people evicted or decimated by their soldiers?
    Are colons and settlers are not just the branch of the colonising army, and are the essence of colonialism. Think of “sans culottes“ sending a group of mercernaries to occupy a foreign territory, then these sans-culottes follows to occupy the cleared space, hence becoming the settlers of this foreign territory. Of course, to keep and maintain what remains illegal acquisition, they get armed and some of them will have to join the mercenaries to reinforce and expand their presence.
    Whether called settlers or colons, these are no legal civilians, they are all mercenaries. Hence, why the right of the indigenous to resist is limited to fighting an army and does not include the settlers? Who defined the terms?

  • @mikeharvey9811
    @mikeharvey9811 7 місяців тому

    Democracy for sale ….geo…excellent book on who’s behind our politicians. Bar

  • @mariamacielm8691
    @mariamacielm8691 7 місяців тому +1

    The difficulty is to separate the good Muslims from the powerful ones who wants sharia law and change the laws of land !

    • @TessTearoe-zp5xv
      @TessTearoe-zp5xv 7 місяців тому

      It’s ridiculous, they are 6% of your population, don’t be the poster child for Islamophobia.

  • @yasirmalik11
    @yasirmalik11 7 місяців тому

    Muslims should rethink Politics and Poltical engagement lock, stock and barrel. How original they can think will decide not just their future but the future of this country too.

  • @faizafernandez5728
    @faizafernandez5728 7 місяців тому

    Labour is even worse.