Alex, great video. Thank you for posting. At about 10:50, I am pretty sure that is a rangefinder toggle for the different lenses, not a self timer. I think the M4 has a self- timer, but it is on the other side. Cheers from northern Ontario
Just got mine yesterday. Traded off all my Nikon film cameras and manual lenses to go over to Leica following my move to the M11. Considering all the choices of Leica film cameras I think I’ll be really happy with the M4 P.
I have a M3 and M4 and use the Leica Summicron 50mm, Voigtlander Nokton 50mm, and Voigtlander Color Skopar 35mm, all are superb. I had the Leica IIIf with a Leica Elmar 50mm and it made great images but I just didn’t like the loading of the camera.
Nice shout out to Johnny Martyr ! He is local to me and a really nice fellow. I had both the M4-2 and M4-P and enjoyed them. Currently have an M3 and M4 but am mostly shooting my M9 and Monochrom these days.
Johnny is an awesome guy! I had the chance to try an M8 once; great cameras, but the sensor on the Monchrom is undoubtedly amazing! Thanks for watching! 🍻
Awesome video! Love the history as always. I didnt know there was history in Canada with Leitz. What a dreamy camera! I love the ltm mount, the Canon L3 is my main rangefinder, and the lenses including the Jupiter's are really nice. It's great they can be adapted to this body as well as using the newer third party lenses.
Thanks! Yes Leitz’s Canadian history is often overlooked! A few years back I tried to get a tour of the plant in Midland (still around) that has a museum. But sadly I would need a security clearance! The LTM is a great mount! Thanks for watching 🍻
There are of course other lens producers, true. But, as you mentioned correctly: Leica glass quality is often partly even man made and quality controlled. And I tried as well some other brands like voigtlander, zeiss, but the only one that really comes close to the Leica lenses is the Canon 50 1.4 with LTM or the current Leica mount. On film and digital cameras… the other brands never “caught” me. So: get just one lens at the beginning but spend some money on that. You will go on from there and won’t regret it. Other lenses will come by time.
I’ve used dozens of different film cameras and my M4-P is my favorite. BTW most M4-P top covers have two sync ports. Yours and mine have a single sync port. The later models use the same top cover as the M6 with a single sync port but my camera has an early serial number so I suspect my top cover was replaced with a later version spare part.
Good information! There is something special about shooting with a rangefinder. Another nice rangefinder to try out is the Zeiss Ikon ZM...I like mine as much if not more than my Leica M6.
I always love your presentation, but today I think you forgot that the M4-P don’t got a self timer. Under the Viewfinder you got the field of view selector. I think it just the same as I’m my M6TTL. I really miss the self timer on my M6TTL, that had to be sacrifice for the battery compartment.. The M4-P, isn’t it a M6 without a meter?
Thanks for the comprehensive report. Would you say that the 4-P is the vintage equivalent of the current M-A? I am selling all my Nikon analog cameras and lenses to get the M4-P so I can use all my M-11 lenses when I go for film.
I owned am M4-P once, and regretfully-ish sold it before it got even way more expensive. I thought it was wonderful, but the primary reason I sold it is because the lens investment is just so steep. I had a great 35mm Zeiss, but I found the cost to be too prohibitive on my ability to build a kit. I could probably manage that better now, but then again, the 28 and 50 I'd want would still be way too expensive. haha.
Ah I hate when you sell off something and regret it! And yeah I would have to sell off a lot of gear to get the M4-P kit I would want! Thanks for watching 🍻
I have the 40mm Summicron C and the M Rokkor 28/2.8 (plus an external finder for 28mm) that “belong” to my CL. But I’m thinking I’d like to have two bodies and the longer RF baseline, so the M4-P may be just the ticket. Keep the 28 on it, use the CL with the 40. It’s only money …
Thx. I notice you switched to your Gossen halfway through. Any reason for that? I used to have the Gossen, but got rid of it as it was too big, but would be interested in how the Reveni incident handles, especially using with a Rangefinder (I have a Contax ii)
In the years before WW2 Leitz and his family transferred many of their Jewish employees to their overseas branches, notably in Britain, Canada and the USA. This also entitled them to take their families with them and a lot of Jewish people aquired extra family members. This operation became known as The Leica Train and it's a facinating story of how Leitz kept the Nazi's happy whilst helping the Allied nations. They essentially played for both both sides. This is akin to Schindlers List, they did it under the noses of the SS and Gestapo and used their money to bribe their Nazi paymasters.
Alex, great video. Thank you for posting. At about 10:50, I am pretty sure that is a rangefinder toggle for the different lenses, not a self timer. I think the M4 has a self- timer, but it is on the other side. Cheers from northern Ontario
Yeah that is the toggle! Thanks for watching and the kind words 🍻
Thanks for the vid. FYI, there is no self timer on the M4-P. That's the viewfinder frame line preview lever.
As many others have pointed out. Thank for watching 🍻
Just got mine yesterday. Traded off all my Nikon film cameras and manual lenses to go over to Leica following my move to the M11. Considering all the choices of Leica film cameras I think I’ll be really happy with the M4 P.
Oh you will be happy! Congratulations on the new arrival! And thanks for watching 🍻
Dear Habs 8691 great point! I would not have caught that had you not brought that to my attention. Most greatful.
Excellant history of Leica camera! Thank you for the documentary.
Thanks! I’m as much a history nerd as I am a photography nerd! Thanks for watching 🍻
I have a M3 and M4 and use the Leica Summicron 50mm, Voigtlander Nokton 50mm, and Voigtlander Color Skopar 35mm, all are superb.
I had the Leica IIIf with a Leica Elmar 50mm and it made great images but I just didn’t like the loading of the camera.
Those Barnack Leicas were a PITA to load. Thanks for watching 🍻
Nice shout out to Johnny Martyr ! He is local to me and a really nice fellow. I had both the M4-2 and M4-P and enjoyed them. Currently have an M3 and M4 but am mostly shooting my M9 and Monochrom these days.
Johnny is an awesome guy! I had the chance to try an M8 once; great cameras, but the sensor on the Monchrom is undoubtedly amazing! Thanks for watching! 🍻
Awesome video! Love the history as always. I didnt know there was history in Canada with Leitz. What a dreamy camera! I love the ltm mount, the Canon L3 is my main rangefinder, and the lenses including the Jupiter's are really nice. It's great they can be adapted to this body as well as using the newer third party lenses.
Thanks! Yes Leitz’s Canadian history is often overlooked! A few years back I tried to get a tour of the plant in Midland (still around) that has a museum. But sadly I would need a security clearance! The LTM is a great mount! Thanks for watching 🍻
There are of course other lens producers, true. But, as you mentioned correctly: Leica glass quality is often partly even man made and quality controlled. And I tried as well some other brands like voigtlander, zeiss, but the only one that really comes close to the Leica lenses is the Canon 50 1.4 with LTM or the current Leica mount. On film and digital cameras… the other brands never “caught” me. So: get just one lens at the beginning but spend some money on that. You will go on from there and won’t regret it. Other lenses will come by time.
The Canon is a truely special lens! But it’s all up to the photographer who is using the camera to use what catches them! Thanks for watching 🍻
I’ve used dozens of different film cameras and my M4-P is my favorite. BTW most M4-P top covers have two sync ports. Yours and mine have a single sync port. The later models use the same top cover as the M6 with a single sync port but my camera has an early serial number so I suspect my top cover was replaced with a later version spare part.
Interesting about the sync ports! And yeah the M4-P is something special! Thanks for watching 🍻
Good information! There is something special about shooting with a rangefinder. Another nice rangefinder to try out is the Zeiss Ikon ZM...I like mine as much if not more than my Leica M6.
I will keep the ZM on my wishlist of cameras to try and review! Thanks for watching 🍻
Been using mine for 4 years now. Vulcanite on the back has peeled off, one of the sync ports is gone. Best camera.
I love a well used camera! Thanks for watching 🍻
I always love your presentation, but today I think you forgot that the M4-P don’t got a self timer. Under the Viewfinder you got the field of view selector. I think it just the same as I’m my M6TTL. I really miss the self timer on my M6TTL, that had to be sacrifice for the battery compartment.. The M4-P, isn’t it a M6 without a meter?
Thanks! Yes I did mess that bit up I realised that after the fact! And yes the M4-P and M6 are closely related! Thanks for watching 🍻
Thanks for the comprehensive report. Would you say that the 4-P is the vintage equivalent of the current M-A? I am selling all my Nikon analog cameras and lenses to get the M4-P so I can use all my M-11 lenses when I go for film.
Thank you for the kind words! Yeah I would say that the M-A is the modern version of the M4-P. Thanks for watching 🍻
I owned am M4-P once, and regretfully-ish sold it before it got even way more expensive. I thought it was wonderful, but the primary reason I sold it is because the lens investment is just so steep. I had a great 35mm Zeiss, but I found the cost to be too prohibitive on my ability to build a kit. I could probably manage that better now, but then again, the 28 and 50 I'd want would still be way too expensive. haha.
Ah I hate when you sell off something and regret it! And yeah I would have to sell off a lot of gear to get the M4-P kit I would want! Thanks for watching 🍻
I have the 40mm Summicron C and the M Rokkor 28/2.8 (plus an external finder for 28mm) that “belong” to my CL. But I’m thinking I’d like to have two bodies and the longer RF baseline, so the M4-P may be just the ticket. Keep the 28 on it, use the CL with the 40.
It’s only money …
Thx. I notice you switched to your Gossen halfway through. Any reason for that? I used to have the Gossen, but got rid of it as it was too big, but would be interested in how the Reveni incident handles, especially using with a Rangefinder (I have a Contax ii)
I switched because the batteries in the Reveni Conked out! A full review of the Reveni in October! But it handles beautifully!
Also I still think I would go for a Leica iiig as the ltm lenses are cheaper
Nothing wrong with a good Barnack Leica! Thanks for watching 🍻
In the years before WW2 Leitz and his family transferred many of their Jewish employees to their overseas branches, notably in Britain, Canada and the USA. This also entitled them to take their families with them and a lot of Jewish people aquired extra family members. This operation became known as The Leica Train and it's a facinating story of how Leitz kept the Nazi's happy whilst helping the Allied nations. They essentially played for both both sides. This is akin to Schindlers List, they did it under the noses of the SS and Gestapo and used their money to bribe their Nazi paymasters.
It is such a great bit of history! Thanks for watching 🍻
I really didn’t need to watch this …
Little GAS attack? My job here is done. 🍻
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