Perhaps I'm missing the point, but when would one put these mirrors into the "wing" position, with no "mirror" function whatsoever? Whilst parked? For photo opportunities? On a track day? £400 (is that correct?!), is a lot of money, even by Rizoma's standards, for something that seems to offer, at best, a crystal clear view of one's cuffs.
Received my 2023RR a couple of weeks ago and I am very annoyed at the useless rear view mirrors...they are almost dangerously useless at speeds above 20mph...for such a beautifully engineered bike I just don't understand what BMW is doing with this important piece of road safety now searching for a fix- once again thanks for your reviews.
At £395 price difference ill stick with the fake ones. Its ridiculous to charge over £400 for a mirror that really and truly have poor visability but just looks good
Frankly speaking, these stealth mirrors really don't serve that much good purpose, even the visibility is very limited. So, knockoffs or original both are not really not that much worthy to buy. But yeah, for looks one can definitely go for these.
Rizoma mirrors are superb once you've had them you can put them on any bike all you need is the adaptor, quality and finish are so good you could put them on your mantelpiece, with slight convex and anti glare you won't use anything else. Got them on my scooter and bike
I just bought my first motorcycle, i got an mt07, and I absolutely hate the stock mirrors. They're gigantic, and yet i can't see a thing out of em. Was looking at the rizomas but there's no way in hell im gonna drop $400+ on mirrors
The fake ones come loose alot and vibrate an extreemly loud squeel if you ride above 10,000rpm, but if you ride at 8k and under they work very well for $60USD on Amazon.👍
Just took delivery of my 23' s1000r today, used alot of your content to help me make a decision on my bike. Thank you, oh and I ordered the Rizoma Stealth mirrors, the factory mirrors are garbage.
Iv been looking at the rizoma, but the price is ridiculous. For the money the Ali express doesn't look bad, and does make it tempting, but when you actually compare it to the branded stuff for example ducabike stuff, you can see that Ali express is low quality
idk about these it would be great if someone did a video of exactly how much coverage they give you on viewing the rear because for how small they are how can they? I hate my bikes huge mirrors but they are fit for purpose and give me coverage that i need. Can't say i wouldn't mind a set of these though just not the thought of something behind me i can't see.
May i know from where to buy them + what other mods do you have on the bike? I see you have the shield + the back seat. Can you please put the name of the items or the links. Thank you
I’m sorry i did buy my mirrors from Ali express and they are exactly the same as the Rizoma mirrors.. i think you have the wrong ali express knock-offs. The one’s in ur video look different from mine.
Super cool I like these question! do both types of Rizoma mirrors give the same level of rearward vision ? since the stems don't look that long Dom nice one 👌
@@christianfierro5393 no great view on the reals, as they are the only mirror with minimal vibrations. But where they sit you have to drop your elbows to see behind. You get use to it.
They do. Personally I don’t mind, but others complain. You need to ride yourself for a 3 hour stint, if you have no complaints after 2/3 hours you’ll be fine. 👍🏻
Not really, its not about the asthetic details, the functionality, relaiability and optical specifications of the original are not even closely matched by the fakes, and riding a motorcycle you should never riska even the slightesl details. Weather they break at speed or give you false image, it is a no brainer you should steer away from the fakes.
@@ahmadmahairi8115my man, there is lit no difference, I look at the “fake” as another style, it doesn’t have to be identical 🤷🏿♂️, 400$ vs 140$ ? I will gladly take the knockoff all day every day 💯
@@ahmadmahairi8115 if you should never risk anything on a motorcycle as you say, then why go for mirrors like this? Surely the ones that have been created by the manufacturer (who probably spent a lot of money designing them) would be the better (or as you put it, less risky) option? Aesthetics and practicality very rarely go hand in hand - these 'stealth' mirrors very much seem to be form over function.
$500 USD for these damn things. Holy crap. For something that doesn't protect your body or keep you safe!. At that price I'm saving an extra $200 to get an alpinestars airbag vest. There is absolutely no reason to spend that kind of money on mirrors just to look down at them and barely even be able to see behind you. I'll shoulder check thank you very much. NOT WORTH THE PRICE.....only for looks ( which are badass not gonna lie). Maybe if they drop to 150-200, NOT 5-600 including shipping to the states.
Price is subjective. My friend who has them loves them and of all the cheaper mirrors I’ve tested (probably spent twice what these cost testing), they’re not very good.
there is lit no difference, I look at the “fake” as another style, it doesn’t have to be identical 🤷🏿♂️, 400$ vs 140$ ? I will gladly take the knockoff all day every day 💯. I have both on 2 different e-bikes and they both use the same purpose for me, same visibility. Is the real better built ?! For sure, but the 400 isn’t attractive to me at all compare to what I get from the 140 version 🤷🏿♂️
It's ridicules to spend that much money on some thing that only looks good when you can't use them. Kind of dumb. I think I'm going to just take my mirrors off because they aren't the good any ways. I might just get me a mirror and stick it in my pocket and when I need to see behind me, I'll just pull it out and hold it up. It would be easier then reaching out in front of the bars and flipping them up.
They are very good and probably the most useful of all the mirrors as they are rock solid against the vibes of the bike. Any other mirrors combo is around £200 plus so not too extortionate. However because of price I’m not running them either 😂
To be fair bikers are mostly cool, sena on your helmet, camera etc. the bad ones are the scooter roadmen and you know when they are about. They’ll take the bike, not the mirrors
@@yodomcat I have a 2022 HD Heritage Classic and they designed the windshield and passenger backrest to be removed with no bolts.....gone in 30 seconds if somebody wanted!
Perhaps I'm missing the point, but when would one put these mirrors into the "wing" position, with no "mirror" function whatsoever? Whilst parked? For photo opportunities? On a track day? £400 (is that correct?!), is a lot of money, even by Rizoma's standards, for something that seems to offer, at best, a crystal clear view of one's cuffs.
Yup you pretty much summed it up.
Received my 2023RR a couple of weeks ago and I am very annoyed at the useless rear view mirrors...they are almost dangerously useless at speeds above 20mph...for such a beautifully engineered bike I just don't understand what BMW is doing with this important piece of road safety now searching for a fix- once again thanks for your reviews.
Was the same on the RR, though slightly better. 😔
At £395 price difference ill stick with the fake ones. Its ridiculous to charge over £400 for a mirror that really and truly have poor visability but just looks good
Visibility is good, much better than the £300 equivalent. In fact I’d go as far as to say these are the only mirrors that actually work on this bike.
Beauty almost always costs more. They look stunning
Frankly speaking, these stealth mirrors really don't serve that much good purpose, even the visibility is very limited. So, knockoffs or original both are not really not that much worthy to buy. But yeah, for looks one can definitely go for these.
Rizoma mirrors are superb once you've had them you can put them on any bike all you need is the adaptor, quality and finish are so good you could put them on your mantelpiece, with slight convex and anti glare you won't use anything else. Got them on my scooter and bike
Still don’t worth 400$ for some metal and glass imo
I just bought my first motorcycle, i got an mt07, and I absolutely hate the stock mirrors. They're gigantic, and yet i can't see a thing out of em. Was looking at the rizomas but there's no way in hell im gonna drop $400+ on mirrors
The fake ones come loose alot and vibrate an extreemly loud squeel if you ride above 10,000rpm, but if you ride at 8k and under they work very well for $60USD on Amazon.👍
I will be buying the cheap ones. Ive purchased plenty of Rizoma stuff in the past but theres no way i am paying £400+ for some mirrors.
Excellent summary 👍😎
The answer to them spinning from wind pressure is a serrated washer under the mirror stem with locktite on the bolt,,no ,,movement.
Just took delivery of my 23' s1000r today, used alot of your content to help me make a decision on my bike. Thank you, oh and I ordered the Rizoma Stealth mirrors, the factory mirrors are garbage.
Congrats! You’ll love it, such a great bike!
@@yodomcat Thanks, keep up the great content
I’m glad I bought the real ones.
hope it is wider a bit just to make the FUNCTIONALITY BETTER
My mate has these on a daily and loves them.
What’s the name of those mirrors at the end? Thank you very much! 4:19
They’re the Rizoma Circuit 👍🏻
I bought AliExpress and my mate got genuine.. hardly any different.. but your cheap ones look terrible 😞..
Yeah they were bad. I’m sure the fakes are catching up 👍🏻
How much?
They have identical ones to risoma now
Hi mate could you please give me the link ? Thank you 👍🏼
@@DOHC.V4 Hi mate could you please give me the link ? Thank you 👍🏼
Iv been looking at the rizoma, but the price is ridiculous. For the money the Ali express doesn't look bad, and does make it tempting, but when you actually compare it to the branded stuff for example ducabike stuff, you can see that Ali express is low quality
idk about these it would be great if someone did a video of exactly how much coverage they give you on viewing the rear because for how small they are how can they? I hate my bikes huge mirrors but they are fit for purpose and give me coverage that i need. Can't say i wouldn't mind a set of these though just not the thought of something behind me i can't see.
How does installation work with rizomas since the OEM mirrors have indicators in them? Are you left with no front indicators?
No indicators in them on the s1000R only the RR. So straight swap (with an adapter for the bolt).
May i know from where to buy them + what other mods do you have on the bike? I see you have the shield + the back seat. Can you please put the name of the items or the links. Thank you
If you check my main channel I have video on the mods
I’m sorry i did buy my mirrors from Ali express and they are exactly the same as the Rizoma mirrors.. i think you have the wrong ali express knock-offs. The one’s in ur video look different from mine.
I’m sure they’ve improved the Ali’s by now. This video was when they were still brand new.
how's the visibility of rizoma stealth mirror
Surprisingly good! Not like the stock but they don’t vibe so useful. My friend has had since release and still loves his
Are you saying "rizoma cups"? At the end?
I put circuits on mine. But after a crash gone back to HJR bar ends.
@@yodomcat yeh man. Was only curious cos I fancy those for my GSXS 1000
Super cool I like these question! do both types of Rizoma mirrors give the same level of rearward vision ? since the stems don't look that long Dom nice one 👌
The stealths are smaller, but I felt I could see more 👍🏻
which bike is the red one at 2:00? looks dope
MV Agusta Brutalie RS
@@yodomcat thank you!
Do you have a link for the Rizoma Cups shown in the end of the video ?
Rizoma Cicuits. Still vibe 😿
Yikes. Debating on ditching the bar ends for the stealths but man they’re expensive
@@dolaniv the stealths are solid, my friend bought them and really rates them.
I'm just wondering if my shoulders won't block the view. Because they are quite low and narrow. Do you have this issue?
I’m 5’10” and would need to drop my elbows but wasn’t an issue. You can get risers but I think that will make them look silly
Great vid!
🙏🏻
Hi pal just wondering if you managed to do a review of the cup mirrors that you got cheers
They are the circuits. Look nice, shit vibes.
where you take the adapter fort the mirrors
Goes in the mirror stem 👍🏻
can you put a link to the knock off mirrors... they look really good
Just AliXpress mate
@@yodomcatdear... did the knock offs allowed you to see the rear? I own an f900r and the originals are super expensive
@@christianfierro5393 they did but you have to tuck your elbows in (depending on your height) but this is same for real ones
@@yodomcat really appreciate your answer... so original or fake, the view is bad on both correct? Thanks a lot again
@@christianfierro5393 no great view on the reals, as they are the only mirror with minimal vibrations. But where they sit you have to drop your elbows to see behind. You get use to it.
Can you fit them on any bike or ??
You can with the kit for your bike.
Hi is it true that the bmw s1000r vibrate a lot including the handelbar ?
They do. Personally I don’t mind, but others complain. You need to ride yourself for a 3 hour stint, if you have no complaints after 2/3 hours you’ll be fine. 👍🏻
Thanks for your feedback. Will do. Cheers
what is the other style rizoma mirror in your video?
Circuit. But still vibe to shit for £300
@@yodomcat I can get an open box stealth for $375, how bad is the visibility on them stealth?
@@dukatista657 it’s good 👍🏻
Can someone provide me the link for the $40 ones? I cant find them 😔
AliXpress
Are those the 20cm or 23cm mirrors from Aliexpress?
It didn’t specify a size
Whats up with RizomO? :/
Dunno 🤷🏻♂️ sounds better… they should change their name.
I’m struggling to believe there’s any Real rear view from them, from their apparent size. Can anyone comment they actually are effective as RVM? Tia
My friend has them on his and loves them
@@yodomcat thanks catman. I love them too… but can he see past his elbows??
@@TheGreatestBeyonder yeah you need to tuck them in
Sir where can we get this type of mirrors
Alixpress
I was thinking about getting some but seeing as all you seem to get is a great view of your shoulders, I'll give them a miss - cheers!
I think some newer ones are better, but you get what you pay for..
Maybe u should of fitted one rizoma one alli on test ride to compare views etc
Where you find the cheap one?
Have you a link?
Ali express
@@yodomcat i know but i cant find it 😥
Would these fit on a grom ?! 🤩
They do bike specific versions, don’t think a grom though
I'd take the knock offs any day of the week, saving over 300 quid, for the sake of a few minor aesthetical differences seems like a no brainer tbh
Not really, its not about the asthetic details, the functionality, relaiability and optical specifications of the original are not even closely matched by the fakes, and riding a motorcycle you should never riska even the slightesl details. Weather they break at speed or give you false image, it is a no brainer you should steer away from the fakes.
@@ahmadmahairi8115my man, there is lit no difference, I look at the “fake” as another style, it doesn’t have to be identical 🤷🏿♂️, 400$ vs 140$ ? I will gladly take the knockoff all day every day 💯
There isn't anything special about these mirrors just overpriced. They're about 100 quid if you're lucky.
@@ahmadmahairi8115 if you should never risk anything on a motorcycle as you say, then why go for mirrors like this? Surely the ones that have been created by the manufacturer (who probably spent a lot of money designing them) would be the better (or as you put it, less risky) option?
Aesthetics and practicality very rarely go hand in hand - these 'stealth' mirrors very much seem to be form over function.
Where can i get the cup mirrors? Thanks
Performance Parts 👍🏻
@@yodomcat thanks mate
I prefer 40$ mirrors and not 460$ mirrors, like they took more 420$ for the quality? come on dude thats a scam.
Price is subjective, if you earn big 460 is someone else’s 40
@@yodomcat Thats a scam for mirrors, even normal mirrors cost less
$500 USD for these damn things. Holy crap. For something that doesn't protect your body or keep you safe!. At that price I'm saving an extra $200 to get an alpinestars airbag vest. There is absolutely no reason to spend that kind of money on mirrors just to look down at them and barely even be able to see behind you. I'll shoulder check thank you very much. NOT WORTH THE PRICE.....only for looks ( which are badass not gonna lie). Maybe if they drop to 150-200, NOT 5-600 including shipping to the states.
Price is subjective. My friend who has them loves them and of all the cheaper mirrors I’ve tested (probably spent twice what these cost testing), they’re not very good.
Shame you cant see anything with either.
With the official ones I thought visibility was excellent
Rizom A !!!!!
I know, I know. No clue why I was calling them Rizom O 🙈
there is lit no difference, I look at the “fake” as another style, it doesn’t have to be identical 🤷🏿♂️, 400$ vs 140$ ? I will gladly take the knockoff all day every day 💯.
I have both on 2 different e-bikes and they both use the same purpose for me, same visibility. Is the real better built ?! For sure, but the 400 isn’t attractive to me at all compare to what I get from the 140 version 🤷🏿♂️
Bro c'mon 400 bucks!
Too cheap?
That's Pounds Bro ! WAY more
Like fake🫡
Where can I get the fake mirrors?
Aliexpress
It's ridicules to spend that much money on some thing that only looks good when you can't use them. Kind of dumb. I think I'm going to just take my mirrors off because they aren't the good any ways. I might just get me a mirror and stick it in my pocket and when I need to see behind me, I'll just pull it out and hold it up. It would be easier then reaching out in front of the bars and flipping them up.
They are very good and probably the most useful of all the mirrors as they are rock solid against the vibes of the bike. Any other mirrors combo is around £200 plus so not too extortionate. However because of price I’m not running them either 😂
Omg way too expensive 🙈
Love the video and mirrors , but you are not afraid that some dumb idiot is gonna steal them ???
To be fair bikers are mostly cool, sena on your helmet, camera etc. the bad ones are the scooter roadmen and you know when they are about. They’ll take the bike, not the mirrors
Yeah you are right man @@yodomcat
One bolt and thieves are off with your $500 mirrors......basically your deductible! Nope......
Yup, same for £1,100 Akra can, £900 screen (3 bolts), oh and if you have the billet pack!
@@yodomcat I have a 2022 HD Heritage Classic and they designed the windshield and passenger backrest to be removed with no bolts.....gone in 30 seconds if somebody wanted!
Stelfy
RizoMA. rizoMA. Not MO 😅
"Risomo"
Yeah dunno why I was pronouncing them rizomo…
Sorry.. hate to be negative but they look terrible
Each to their own 👍🏻
These mirrors should be on a racer imo.
On a naked it looks weird tbh.
I get your reasoning, but I do like them. Especially in comparison to what else is out there.
rip off
Rizomo 😭 its RizomA......🤨🫤
Yeah sorry I mispronounced, dunno why?