Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic Review. Forget Outlaws! This a Star Wars RPG and it rocks!
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- Опубліковано 15 вер 2024
- In a day and age in which we can safely predict that Dragon Age: The Veilguard is going to be yet another massive Bioware disappointment. In a day and age in which Star Wars Outlaws fails to meet the expectations of the OG fan of George Lucas's glorious creation...
There is not better option than to go back to a time when both Lucasfilm and Bioware used to be glorious. The time of Knights of the Old Republic! An RPG by the creators of Baldur's Gate 2, Dragon Age: Origins and Mass Effect no less!
Kotor is the way to go! Enjoy this trip down memory lane and check off this marvelous RPG off your list of things you have to do as a serious gamer! A game that is in the top tier of star wars media along with A New Hope, The Empire Strikes Back and The Return of the Jedi.
Character Creation & Character Progression - 9:26
Gameplay - 17:20
Story & Lore - 38:42
Companions Lorewise - 52:53
Companions Gameplaywise - 1:00:17
Secondary Mechanics & UX - 1:02:48
Sound Effects & Mix - 1:08:45
Music - 1:10:09
Voice Acting - 1:13:00
Graphics - 1:14:45
Performance & Stability - 1:16:58
Other Considerations & Final Thoughts - 1:18:00
For me, finding out who I am in KOTOR was more profound than finding out who Luke's father is. KOTOR is that good ❤.
Don't know if the game is good or bad, but everyone should play Kotor first. EVERY star wars game needs to be compared to KOTOR or Jedi Outcast. I don't make the rules
Person of class here!!
Everyone should play Kotor... period XD.
Jedi outcast was awesome I loved dark forces series, and rebel assault and x-wing vs tie fighter
@@jonmartin9732 Star Wars Squadrons of the more recent ones was also goodish.
And KOTOR 2
We have to live with the realization that star wars may never get another story like KOTOR or KOTOR 2
Never say never but... It's not looking good...
KOTOR felt like a a trilogy of its own. The story, the gameplay, the characters, a timeless experience for any star wars fan. Then, this was when bioware was an amazing company that cared about making games.
trudat.
My most hated VO companion saying "I will be your doom!" was stuck in my head for two decades.
Yes this is true. Then came Jack in ME" with "I will destroy you". Those are probably the two worst recurring battle phrases.
@@YeOldEntertainment Jack's line is a reference to the first ME enemies that would shout that all the time. All the gunfights in that game were a cacophony of "Enemies everywhere!!!" and "I will destroy you!".
@@GamerGarm I know. Still annoying AF.
I know what's stuck in my head now
You make great content and its only getting better.
Thanks my man. Glad you enjoy it.
I see kotor video, I click video, I like video, I comment... simple as
I click on love button and like comment. Simple as that XD.
@@YeOldEntertainment I see great underrated youtuber, I click subscribe, simple as
This review is just A-M-A-Z-I-N-G! Now you're obliged to do KOTOR 2 though.
Haha we'll see. Thanks for watching this one though!
KOTOR 1 and 2 are my top two favorite video games ever (with a slight nudge to KOTOR 2 for Chris Avellone's writing). I've lost count how many times I've played through both titles. It can be challenging at times on Taris, but a sneak-attacking scoundrel/guardian build is highly recommended for KOTOR. Maneuvering around the battlefield and sneak-attacking for big hits is a really fun way to spice up the combat as a Jedi rogue. Sad, we will likely never get anything like these games ever again. Star Wars Outlaws definitely isn't replacing the KOTOR games anytime soon, 2024 Ubisoft isn't even in the same league as old-school BioWare and Obsidian.
They are top tier stuff
KOTOR 2 remains my favorite SW product since the original trilogy. I still think about the game all these years later, and the usual "What might have beens" that comes with literally every Obsidian game from that period.
KOTOR was my 1st proper RPG that I played and got me into the crpg field too. Man I think this was the perfect entry into the series for me. This game is/was GOLD.
We'll never see a Star Wars game or property like KotOR 1 or KotOR 2 ever again.
Edit: Also the combat in KotOR isn't real time, KotOR's combat is built on a modified version of the Advanced Dungeons and Dragons ruleset also used by the Bioware Infinity Engine D&D CRPG's and, like them, uses six second combat rounds with dice rolls in the background, it only has the appearance of real time combat thanks to the animations and a switch to a third person view instead of top down/isometric.
The only downside to the KotOR games is that everything not Star Wars about them, is just proto Mass Effect, and Mass Effect simply does it all better.
Never say never but... It's not looking good.
I never really liked SW like that, but shit if I don’t loveee KOTOR 1/2
This is a top tier game. I'd recommend it to any RPG guy or gal regardless of whether or not they like Star Wars.
Even online The Old Rebuplic is better than Outlaws, c'mon.
'course
Yup playing it now.
I can agree that the first game is better, but I still enjoyed KOTOR 2 more.
Great review as always. ABSOLUTELY agree on the quest markers point. I came here to explore and find my own way, not be directed by some oh omnipresent authority figure.
I miss the days. That's why Outward deserves extra credit: A game made post-2016 that has not quest markets, no fast travel no markers on maps, etc.
@@YeOldEntertainment That's bad though. We need to make sure we are reinventing the RPG genre to cater to the new modern audiences and our changing culture around gaming!
Lol, when the Walker went down, that was funny as hell!
I have been waiting for your take on KOTOR for a while. It is one of my absolute favorites. For the most part, I think your review is pretty damn spot on (although I will still fight you about Tyranny). I enjoyed KOTOR immensely. I did feel that the plot was a bit... clumsy at times, and half of the characters are insufferable, but it hit my "wish fulfillment" button really solidly. It is also the first game that I immediately started a second play through the same night I completed it.
The older I get though, the more I have a hard time differentiating whether a game is amazing because it is objectively great, or whether it has just shaped my perspective because of when I played it. A long time ago, I was part of a play-by-post SW role playing group online. It was pretty much entirely community created, and although I didn't know it at the time, was HEAVILY influenced by KOTOR. Once I played the game a couple years later, it hit me pretty hard, and I cannot divorce the game from my RP group. Good to know that people are still enjoying these games as much as I did.
It is objectively great... because it shaped your perspective. I can say that I was there almost since the very beginning of gaming. There are only a handful of games that I experience by looking at them through the rear view mirror. I was there when every game came out. But only a few have had a lasting impact, only a few games have contributed to shape my profile as a game. KOTOR is one of those.
I'll always remember trying to beat that final bounty (was his name Starkiller?) at level 2. Since you sometimes like to hold your level at 2 so you get more jedi levels. Something the sequel wisely did was allow you to get jedi at level 2. That said, I don't recommend people do that for their first playthrough. Beating him at level 2 was always such a challenge.
Keep in mind this was a game designed for console first, PC later. So some of the jankiness comes from that. It's a better port to PC than Jade Empire was. And as mentioned in the video, GOG version is your best bet.
I too watched Star Wars on Betamax taped from the broadcast on TV. It was my Dad that recorded them.
About the "BioWare early game character duo", it goes even before KoTOR. Who does Gorion's Ward meets in the Friendly Arm Inn, the first two companions meant to join the party?
Why a male agreable, friendly and even somewhat pushover character. Is it Kaidan Onasi? Or Alistair Jacobs? No no no... its Khalid. And right alongside him is a bossy, disagreeable, arrogant and challenging lady. Is she Morrigan Williams? or Bastila Lawson? Yup, you guessed it, Jaheira.
And I know you get Imoen first, but she was added later in development when they realized there was no Good aligned thief. And sure, there's Xzar and Montaron but they are not really 'meant' to join you in the same way as Khalid and Jaheira, who even Gorion says to seek out when you leave Candlekeep. And unless you are doing an evil playthrough, they will leave you anyways.
What I am saying is that I agree with your assessment, but BioWare basically just repeated the Khalid and Jaheira duo on every subsequent game. And Carth and Kaiden even have the same voice actor!
Oh, watching your favorite betamax tape was TIGHT! As for Jaheira and Khalid. Yes, you are a 100% correct. And Khalid was the worst of them all... he even stuttered and said that he was not the best to lead the party... But I purposefully left them out for purely arbitrary reasons... I happen to like Jaheira. She's been in my party from the minute I could and all the way to the end EVERY time I've played. And even romanced her in BG2. But I don't like these other companions (Morrigan, Miranda, Ashley, Bastila, etc). So yes... I was cherry picking XD. (People on the other tribe do it all the time!)
@@YeOldEntertainment I am the opposite. I like Khalid. I was a kid when I played it the first time and I found his earnestness endearing. And, for all his faults, he was a very good tank. Because of his Str people gave him s**t but he wasn't meant for DPS. He has high Con.
But yeah, I just mentioned because you made me realize BioWare was recycling those two since forever.
@@GamerGarm But that's a different story... remember... "companions lorewise" and "companions gameplaywise" I also always took Khalid with me (except the times I took Kagain) I also though he was a good tank.
@@YeOldEntertainment Agreed. As I said, I found his earnestness endearing. IRL I wouldn't stand a guy like him, but... when I play its still nostalgia.
Same with Ajantis. I love Paladins so, Paladin Bros for life.
Going from seeing Return of the Jedi in theaters, waiting so many many years for Phantom Menace… felt bad man
Except the two-on-one light saber fight.
Can you do jobs for the empire ? Is the empire a faction you can join in Outlaws ?
I already played multiple times both Old Republic games.
I enjoy the first one more, but the second one has more fun combat and character options (buildings party members is fun)
Yes, you made me interested in playing it again.
@@dnaseb9214 Excellent!
Companions and VA are 10/10, like the arena announcer is just the best VA ever or Canderous's war stories, so good. Oh and prequels are awesome. Otherwise the review is on point 👍
If they made a sequel I think they should get rid of the spikes/parts for hacking and repairs. Because if you've invested in a hacker character it's what you're going to want to do every time you see an opportunity. If anything they could combine those 2 skills into 1 hacker style of play.
I played a engineer character. Fun to use the mechs to fight for you.
Pazaak is like a tournament in the sense that Magic the Gathering is. If you can buy a good deck you're highly likely to win
I had no issues with that. If you are good at hacking you need fewer spikes. But I'd also be cool with it being exclusively conditioned by your skill.
@@adamaccountname haha.Well... that's one way to look at it, I suppose. Not technically wrong though.
Thank you!
Thank you for watching!
This game is classic Star Wars. The sequel to this game is an appropriate critique of Star Wars, unlike The Last Jedi, which was an inappropriate critique of Star Wars.
Medichloridians are fine.
I hated when I saw that in the movie. I remember being at the theater and being superbly disappointed. When you are a Jedi you feel these things. There was no need to introduce that concept.
Kotor 1 and 2 are awesome. I'm currently playing swtor now after finishing Kotor 2 again.
Excellent
You had my like at 2:26 !
Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic is titled an RPG while Outlaws is titled an action adventure game. Lets not forget this.
And RPG will kick action adventure game in the butt any day XD
@@YeOldEntertainment agreed fully.
No joke I had finally gotten around to beating KOTOR 1 right before outlaws came out. I started playing outlaws and got so bored I went and bought KOTOR 2 and it’s been a blast. lol
I’ve just always heard about how incredible the KOTOR games are and my mind is fixated on starwars right now. No regrets.
Well .. maybe buying Outlaws ..
Star wars rebellion is a great strategy game too
47:15 I hate to be that guy but...most of these values are not, in fact, universal.
Stoicism, in particular, has always been a minority position, even in Roman times.
The things listed there are things that are generally regarded as good/things to aspire to/virtues, they are not considered bad or villainous. It does not mean that they are commonly practiced by people. These things were also commonly presented as good/things to aspire to in entertainment back in those days.
Great review ! I just disagree that the big reveal was obvious AT THE TIME, unlike what happens with Bastila (or Kreia in 2). The identity plot twist has been done to death since though.
On the UX side, this super old game at least had the great idea to have a shared inventory for everyone, without arbitrary limits. Not need to stop your epic storming of the sith base in the middle to do item juggling between party members or go back to a shop
I played it at launch. Saw it coming a mile away. Not to insult you or anything, but there was a lot of heavy, heavy foreshadowing. Some of it is even replayed for your convenience at the moment of the reveal.
Still, the twist is good and I'll rather have this than some "subversion of expectations".
Christenson’s performance I argue is one of the best since the old trilogy. Lucas isn’t the best director. Also the Metroid other M supports this a well. The actress was literally told to act with little emotion.
Other M's acting and "da baby" is the least of its problems. The control scheme is so bad, whoever made it deserves to be jailed. And they didn't even implement an alternative. Worst control scheme I have ever encountered.
old people have entered the chat, boys. lol.
Disney Star Wars is not Star Wars
True, Disney SW is a sick fanfic bullsh1t.
Hey boss, timestamps would be nice. Keep up the good work.
You have them in the description.
The best experience for this game is on Xbox.
I'm playing outlaws these days but you are right that KOTOR is way better, KOTOR even gives me more Star wars Feeling than outlaws. And of course it is a comparison bettween a RPG and an action adventure. Also the outlaws has some problems with gameplay imo that shouldn't be iin a AAA game these days.
42:59 The second game does this better
Kotor
Kotor 2
Empire at war
Dark forces
Shadows of the empire
X wing/tie fighter.
Play em instead of consuming new star wars media.
Oh and Andor is....acceptable
Well Star Wars Squadron is pretty good. (If you like space pew pew).
@@YeOldEntertainmentthe wokisms got on my nerves in Squadrons, never finished it. Kotor is one of my faves of all time, inc. 12 and even the mmorpg are great. Thanks for the vid
@@ryanillingworth5333Agreed, I had some fun with Squadrons at first, but then it became very clear they wanted to push a modern agenda and it just felt so out of place in Star Wars. Not surprised when I learned the writer for the game was an activist who used to work for IGN. I Never finished it. You can buy it for about $2 on sale these days haha.
What's the game at 13:50?
Wizardry 8
@@YeOldEntertainment Thank you
Ah, here we go again, kotor for 15th time. But why no swtor then? And yet nobody cares that it's completely different experiences
The blue girl is a kid?
Yes
oooor you could play modded Empire at War... or Sins of a Solar Empire: Interregnum 😏
I played this game for the first time last year and it reminded me that I like Star Wars after the Sequels made me jaded from the franchise. The problem are these activist morons that somehow have control over Star Wars now.
Yeh-yeh. Until further notice, we have to stick to watching the OG trilogy, playing KOTOR and KOTOR, reading the tale of the Jedi comics. Maybe check out Rebels (it's for kids but it's a decent watch, not great by any measure) maybe fish out Andor. But that's it. One day this IP will go to someone competent. But for now, it's better to be disconnected
@@YeOldEntertainment The prequels are okay in my opinion too, they ain't perfect, but at least they had something other than DiVeRSitY and sTRonK w0Man. I feel like Episode 3 made up for the other two at least, and Natalie Portman being hot as hell.
You can enjoy both. Outlaws is an amazing game, and respect the canon more than Filoni. I would say that Outlaws is the Best game of the Disney Era by far. And I love Survivor, but this is too far in quality.
man, all your subscriber already played it