We need one on the Colleen ballinger situation and how she grooms her fans into a toxic bullying inappropriate relationship where she exploits them for money, views, tricks them into doing work, and has inappropriate sexual coverstations either her underage fans ✨👏
She's in the right 100%. Who cares what she brought up? He was rude to her, she can be rude back. His actions are far worse than hers. This isn't even up for discussion. If you're rude to someone and they're rude back, you got what you were looking for.
“You’ve been on one episode of stranger things” and your mid. Comparing to bringing up an addiction that almost killed him and paralysed him for a year
nah not really his original video he didn't even insult her he said she got hired because she was in stranger things which is true. She then went at him and he said don't get cooked, she said she wanted to get cooked, she got cooked, she brought up him almost dying from drug addiction, he apologised, she brought up 13 year old tweets, then she cried. But ofcourse when a white girl cries she just can't be wrong in your eyes 🥺
I get he has a problem with how Faze is run, by why target her? Talk to your organization, lol. As far as her bringing up his overdose, while its a super low blow, if you take the low road and attack someone, expect them to meet you there. I nor anyone is obligated to be respectful to those who don't respect us. Just my 2 cents
talking to the organization won’t do anything at all, they’ve tried doing it that way a million times lmao, he wasn’t necessarily roasting her he was talking shit about the corporate people at FaZe recruiting yet another celebrity just to get more clout which isn’t her fault but talking shit about her being recruited is going to lead to her getting offended even though it’s not personal. And he already said that he didn’t give a shit about her bringing up his drug use, he was annoyed that she was playing victim when they both directed low blows at each other
@@mooteditsGoing public would have been fine. Being an asshole to a coworker like this doesn't equal that. All I got out of this is that faze is an org I should stay the fuck away from.
42:51 he is infantilizing her EVEN THO they are 1 year apart! HE IS abusive if he ever does this to children . he is being emotional by the way he is reacting
wow she's such a sweet young lady. wtf is wrong with this dude? just an animal. props to her to for being the daughter of casper, that's pretty cool. starship troopers troopers stand up!
Bro goo look into the full story i can’t lie rain came off hard but as someone who grew up watching faze rain he genuinely wants his company to go back to the way it is and he paved the way for gaming content creators by creating faze a gaming clan that took over the mainstream like bruh your watching people that are only making rain look bad
@@pacegravity7635 I know what it is to be a decent human, I know what it is when someone is a piece of shit. I know right from wrong. This guy is a piece of shit and it's an over time thing, not just a single incident.
Yeah Rain has just always been a fiery, emotional dude. It would have been sooo simple to side with Grace and aim his frustrations at the suits who are fucking up the company and tbh the whole esports industry. But no, he just had to make things weirdly personal and sexist against Grace. It's such a shame as a big fan of OG FaZe and even Rain back in the day.
@@julieannewaller7541 after she was harassed over something not within her control at all? like yes she shouldn’t have made a comment on it but a) she’s new to this sort of thing and b) she’s literally just responding to the unnecessary harassment she’s getting just for being signed. the problem is and should be with the leaders of faze, not grace.
@@julieannewaller7541 idk why yall are constantly trying to play victim for Rain. he said in his videos, and in private to Grace, that he didn't give a shit about her bringing up the drug thing. he literally told his followers it was lame to play the victim for him lol
@Julieanne Waller I think she was bringing it up bc he was treating her like she was beneath him. She was basically saying look. We are both humans we've both been thru shit and you should treat me with the same respect that i have given to you. It def didn't come across great, just my opinion!
I think people have to remember that she grew up with a mother that was addicted to drugs, she's very familiar with how the deceptive and manipulative behaviour of an addict can be. I'm pretty sure she recognizes that behaviour in him around 45:00 , it can be traumatic af.
Great point!! And it seems like you are great at being empathetic/sympathetic (sorry I’m an idiot and half the time never can figure out which one applies lool)
@@allisoncastle You aren't stupid bb! sympathy is caring about the feelings of others even if you have not shared their experience. Empathy means you know how they feel from personal experience of the same situation and are sharing that compassion.
Honestly, I could hear it in her voice, it sounded like she was remembering conversations with her mom who aside from being an addict also abused her; I would have straight up cried if I was her
I think she brought it up as saying you are no better than me, i am no better than you. We are equal and you should treat me as such and respect me. At least thats my take. Team grace 💯💯💯
Until people stop using b*tch and pussy words to describe bad behavior or being scared + it also describes women, that is when those boys become men and respect women up until then, I trust no man saying and using those words and keep saying we respect women.
I agreed with Ethan that it seemed mean spirited to bring up his drug abuse issues. There was no reason to mention it. But the dude was bullying her so he sucks.
sorry for coming in 2 months late but if the guy is literally bullying her for being a woman in gaming and being a pity feminist hire, i’m not saying she should have gone there but when he’s making potshots most people would also snap and fire back after a while
she has tonnes of clout in hollywood (her great grand uncle is the silent film actor Harold Lloyd, she's the great-great-great grandneice of THE Mark Twain, her grandmother is Princess Elizabeth of Yugoslavia and her great grandfather is Robert Mitchum and her Father is Rico) and still got treated like dirt and then goes and tries to make it in another industry and gets the same treatment.
The comment section is polluted a f lmao Not even talking about the ones attacking Grace, but also Hila and Olivia?? Like, do yall even know what it means to have your whole career, competence and achievements dismissed as "feminist tokenism"??? He basically insinuated her whole life she has been nothing more than a beneficiary of "diversity politics" ?? And said she doesnt even deserve that bcos she's "mid" ?? That's one of the greatest insults one can conjure up against a young woman. It can kill your self worth, esteem and make you doubt everything and everyone. It can cause you to get a severe imposter syndrome, rendering you unable to enjoy your hard earn achievements. Sorry to break it to yall, but It's just as bad as trying to put someone "in their place" by bringing up their past misfortunes and that's on that. Yall just cant seem to wrap your head around the fact that physical health and mental health are equally important and absence of one can affect another. Both people are wrong but that dude should've just stayed away from her and directed his anger towards the ones who really caused it. He started shit, he escalated it and now yall mad at HER to the point of even dragging these women with her for understanding what it means and what it feels like to be reduced to your genitalia and soft voice and what's associated with it?? Lol get rekt.
bro rain & faze fans have a problem when they introduce people who have no idea about gaming/history of faze. She indeed is a token used by corporate faze, it’s the same thing as when a POC gets introduced to something unnecessary with no logical reasoning. Yes Rain is trying to make corporate side of faze a nightmare & succeeding. Corporate side knew this would happen 💀
7 months late but YES, beyond tired of the “aw she went too far” narrative with women who slap back at misogynistic men. People saying “oh he JUST called her mid” no, he reinforced the age old misogynistic narrative that women’s value = their f*ckability to men, therefore if a man/men doesn’t find them attractive they have no value and should stfu/disappear/whatever. Ethan even said “I mean there’s certain things you just shouldn’t make fun of somebody for” yeah like being a woman?? All these people acting like her 1 comment ab his overdose was so much worse than his *repeated* misogynistic comments towards her just prove how insanely normalized and ingrained into our minds misogyny really is
I'm around the same age as all of the OG FaZe guys having grown up with FaZe and loving gaming and trickshotting back in the day. It's so sad to see that while I have matured and progressed as a human adult, most of these guys so very clearly have not. They are still locked in their 2013 teenage brains. You can't fully blame them, as becoming rich and famous on the internet at such a young age, and then getting basically groomed by businessmen, definitely leads to its own unique struggles. But there comes a point when you are still accountable for your own actions. Rain's frustration with FaZe is sooo misguided. Instead of being mad at the boomers fucking up the industry he directs sexist hate to a random girl online? Kinda weird bro.
He literally made multiple videos explaining about how he got fucked over by the boomers. They go on and do the same shit and invite someone who has no place to be in other than shes famous. Yes she plays valorant she is nowhere near the pro level and she had no affiliation with the trickshotting part of faze she doesn’t deserve to be in faze. So what he did was mean but he did it to prove a point to the corporate people that he has power. Well thats why I think he did it and hell in a way it worked she removed faze from her twitter name. I do agree that it was stupid and immature but just telling the corporates to stop clearly wasn’t going to work
@@username-mf4mu firstly, it's grossly exclusionary to say someones value is based on childish ass trickshotting. Secondly, gaming orgs and orgs as a WHOLE can not grow if they don't cast a bigger net. Which is vital to keeping an org alive. Thirdly, it's disgusting to say that it's ok to send waves of hate and sexist remarks and angry fans at a woman IN YOUR ORG because you have a problem with MANAGEMENT'S decision to hire her. If he wanted to go the route of raising a fucking shit stink online, he should have been addressing FAZE AND MANAGEMENT, not her. She was just a new member she hadn't done anything to him at all when this started. Oh that's right I forgot, if he HAD attacked the organization over sexist feelings about a woman in the org, they probably would've fired them as they should.
And show where rain went off like that after she implied rain was still on drugs & brought up his drug overdose and nearly died and then she deleted her stream.
@@julieannewaller7541 a recovering addict should always show more humility, though, because we can only keep what we have (clean time) by giving it away (carrying the message to the still suffering addict). My point is, this would’ve been a very productive teaching moment for both substance abuse awareness and the toxic bs between two adults. Instead, it looks like both sides were too immature to reach that outcome. In the end, Rain definitely started this like a fu***** child. Faze Clan as a whole is a joke and a shell of what it used to be.
i feel bad for her!! although she shouldnt have said “i know you as the one that almost od on stream” i still dont think that was really as bad as everything he said
@@therealgremlin. assault? I didn't say that buddy, learn to read. I said it was borderline sexual harrassment, which it is. Talking about whether or not you want to fuck someone out of nowhere is obviously very inappropriate.
I think that the one thing she said was worse then any single thing he said but he said way more little digs at her. Like she did a quick single stab with a knife that cut deep but he would do like a hundred punches at her every time he talked
@@kharonhaden5136 except that's not true though is it? Because he's said multiple times that he doesn't care that she brought it up. So calling it a quick single stab with a knife that cut deep isn't true. It didn't cut deep. He just portrayed that it did to get more people to hate on this girl until he was over it and admitted he didn't care
Both of em need to wake up. But that dude has some serious issues. Even if he rewatched his video over and over he sees nothing wrong with the way he apologized. It's not sincere at all. The dm apology was way better but wtf
Her bringing up the drug stuff wasn't appropriate. You could reasonably interpret it as her showing they're both flawed and that they're not worth attacking each other over, but also could read it as her saying "Don't go after me for trickshotting when I could go after you for your overdose" which is pretty gross. But you could reasonably interpret it either way, like Ethan and Hila. But Rain is the reason for this even being a situation. He's the one who made it personal, and turned the sights on her. Also "politics" to him is apparently bringing on someone who isn't a dude. That in and of itself reveals the sexist sentiment underneath phony criticism. He has the same 13 year old internet troll mentality in a grown man's body, that we see with a lot of others these days. He thinks life is a COD lobby. No, people don't have to just take senseless insults and abuse because "who cares what I think" You're allowed to be criticed for being a shitbag, and falling back on "why do you care/you shouldn't care about--" bullshit is cowardly not taking responsibility for bile that comes out of your mouth. Rain is a toxic gaslighting shitbag. Grace seems a little inexperienced like Hila picked up on, but the fact she was willing to have a dialogue with that clout gremlin makes her look like a saint. Unfortunate she inherited this situation, all because shitbags like Rain weren't enough for the brand. She's better than the FaZe shit, leave and let it to die like it already was. She has so much more resources.
I think she meant that: she knows rain as 'the guy who overdosed on stream' when he was judging her as 'the girl from one episode of stranger things' That's how I understood it. It did feel incomparable though...
coming back to this after spending the last 2 months watching Rainn’s snapchat story, he’s definitely let Andrew Tate become his new daddy and I’ve lost any old respect I had from the golden days of FaZe. and that’s not just a guess, he’s talked Andrew up on multiple podcasts before and after the police arrested him
Yikes. As someone who is trying to escape from a narcissistic brother, the way hes talking with her is so triggering. We havent talked in months (though living in the same house) but this still takes me back to the convos Ive had with him that would end just like that. I hope shes doing ok ❤
I was about to say he sounds like my narcissistic relatives I finally went no contact with, I started trembling with rage. That was exactly how they talked to me, I got so pissed I wasn't there to tell him off in person
Rain was completely in the wrong in this situation but i think the comment about his overdose was kinda fucked up from a moral standpoint but I don’t personally give a shit
Love this summary. I also agree. Yeah, is it not the nicest thing? Sure. But women don’t owe niceness or decency to anyone who fully does not respect them as a human being.
The world that we live in that some idiot I've never heard of, would make a video saying if he had a consenting Grace from Stranger Things trying to sleep with you, you wouldn't even on your drunkest night with a straight face????? Get the fuck out of here. Also, love this segment with Olivia. MOAR Olivia please. 😌 She's the queen.
Listen I Stan Olivia and with rain and his outburst saying the “wouldn’t touch her on my drunkest night” comment is an L but in the clip where grace brought up his OD past was clearly a dig they didn’t show where she also brought up some other Faze members SA allegations so it was CLEARY a dig towards them and rain. Rain even said in a video that he does want women and have diversity in faze clan but not in a shitty corporate way. Obviously what Nordan said was shitty and was definitely being an asshole and she doesn’t deserve the harassment, hate and disrespect that she received. I say this with peace and love 🙏
30:03 I’m tired of people acting like having connections is wrong. In my town farmers hire the people they know same with workers and companies. Why is it so bad for Hollywood? It’s the same concept
The only point that says faze rain has is that a professional Esports organization should be hiring strictly on the ability to play games at the highest level. However women have been stomped on and pushed out and not treated like equals in the gaming space when this is the one sport ever invented designed to be equal
Rain was trying to say that she did not make a good fit in faze, multiple times saying that he would not want his Mom, girlfriend or Drake in faze. People are let into faze knowing nothing about trickshotting is fucked honestly... THATS HOW IT WAS BUILT. Nobody in this video knows anything about faze.He is saying that because she was on stranger things This is the way faze is going... They Will recruit drake because they are a bunch of suit boomers. Anything for money into the company even if its disingenuous. This is a Very unprepared and misinformed interpretation of the whole thing. Nobody in this video was ever a OG faze fan and nobody here knows rain at all. Rain has stated he tried to go internally with all of this now he is exposing faze, while some of what he is saying is misdirected and mean hes gonna do it however He wants to do it, in His Own company... He built it.
i just think its weird that while her premise was to gain some sort of similarity, or common ground in regards to his OD, why would she end the video with "were not on the same plane"...?
Is it an American thing to eat chilli con carne without any type of carb? As a Brit that’s SO WEIRD to me that she just ate a bowl of what I would consider sauce 🤔
I don’t know shit about faze but I know more about what’s going on with faze rain than the girl who is supposedly did all the research on him. I accidentally saw one video three months ago😂
Ooh so he is on a wheelchair because of that overdose? I think this girl seems to be a very sweet person, but she shouldnt have touched a very sensitive topic like that
Faze’s actions are atrocious but she did make a couple errors here: first was putting out the video bringing up his overdose. That was a low blow let’s all be honest here. The second was when they were trying to squash beef for her to bring up that old tweet. I’m just trying to figure out what was the strategy here? If you’re trying to make peace you don’t come to the table and antagonize the other party like that. His response was also horrific but I’m confused what was the purpose of her going there anyways? I think deep down she didn’t want to make peace and was still upset(which she has every right to be) and wanted to still clap back at him. You would have to do some serious dirt digging to do back to find a now decades old tweet. And also what was the point? She proves he’s misogynistic(which he is clearly) and then he’s suppose to agree? Then what? Still on her side in this whole dispute tho.
It actually would be great if he admitted to being misogynistic. Acknowledgment is the first step to fixing or changing something, and no misogynist is going to heal until they recognize the problem
@@Anngrl69 you are absolutely right about that. What I was trying to say is this was not the way to squash beef. The conversation should have been kept to him saying sorry for his tweets and his video and her saying sorry for what she said in her video, shake hands, hug it out, whatever and then that’s it, end the conversation. Although I do gotta admit he definitely would have done something else sexist towards her had she continued to stay in Faze Clan.
calling someone mid isn’t misogynistic😭 if a guy called another guy ugly it would just be considered a mean comment, but when you call a girl mid it’s misogynistic, makes no sense
FaZe Rain’s entire point is that FaZe Clan is supposed to be the best gamers. That’s what FaZe was and should be, but the organization keeps bringing on people who aren’t good at gaming. Just because you like content of personality rather than watching the best of the best, doesn’t mean that they should be in FaZe. That take just missed the point. Saying that she admits that she’s not good at gaming but you like to watch that content anyways, means you know nothing about FaZe, who is this girl bro
It’s about taking good gamers that don’t have name for them self and giving them a name. Like imagine being a lil kid dreaming of joining faze and they come out with a recruit challenge faze5 and your grinding all day and getting on right after school to grind for clips and imagine doing all that for them to recruit GRACE like she already has a name for her self and don’t know shit about faze like y’all don’t understand it’s literally spitting in the those lil kids faces and saying you’ll never have a chance to join faze
@@pacegravity7635yes definitely that too, FaZe used to bring people in who weren’t known and were amazing gamers. It gave them the spotlight. They shouldn’t bring people in who is already known and brings no gaming value to FaZe
And them talking about trickshotting and clowning rain for that completely blew over there head faze literally came up from tirckshotting like that’s how they were know back in the day and being in faze not knowing what a trick shot is literally crazy like that’s what they are know for
It’s about taking good gamers that don’t have name for them self and giving them a name. Like imagine being a lil kid dreaming of joining faze and they come out with a recruit challenge faze5 and your grinding all day and getting on right after school to grind for clips and imagine doing all that for them to recruit GRACE like she already has a name for her self and don’t know shit about faze like y’all don’t understand it’s literally spitting in the those lil kids faces and saying you’ll never have a chance to join faze
Like y’all watched Aiden Ross react to it and instantly said Aiden agreed with Grace when Aiden literally calls rain 5mins into the vid and talks to rains
Love to see Ethan harping about someone calling a girl a bitch online. Surely Ethan hasn’t ever done that, many times even, that would be hypocritical!
He’s said like a million times over the past year that he’s trying not to say that word anymore because it’s wrong to call women that, and that he hates that he has ever used it in the past. I get you all just jump onto a random video to hate though. Just try to be accurate about it.
to be honest ethan and hila, you 2 do not understand what faze used to be. it was like a family growing together back in new york, rain being the main inspiration of that by showing everyone there how it’s done, never asking for a penny in return. it was all good hearts who didn’t care about the money yet. now faze is a content farm who partners with literally anyone if it benefits them, that’s what upsets rain.
To be honest @wurhybb, you do not understand what the problem is. It’s not grace’s, right? It’s faze rain and whoever they sold it to. …so why be so nasty to Grace? He turned his anger to an innocent person who got hired by the person he hates. Be upset to the owners, not the new hire. He’s being a bully.
Them being cool back in the day doesn’t give him a free pass to bully and make fun of a new co-worker. Any work place off the internet? his comments would have gotten him fired. Full blown SH.
Ive heard faze as a gamer in general but I've never consumed any of there work. He honestly sounds like a hell to work with. She made a slip up by this dude is on another level mean.
@@kazen16 not even the talent side of the og crew. just what they did, it hadn’t been done before. it’s just with how much rain put into this brand you can’t expect him not to be mad about it yk? faze is his whole life’s work at this point
@@makeupandvlogs2071 because he sacrificed his childhood after 14 to build faze. this is his life’s work just being sold around like a nice car nowadays. not saying he’s right, just saying you can’t expect him not to be mad about it yk?
the reason he seemed so hostile at the end is because he was super polite and apologetic in the beginning of the video until she kept making digs at him, she even said that she wanted to meet a troll in person meaning she wasn’t meeting up with him in good faith, she wanted to try and make him look bad which obviously pissed him off
I’m sorry, but Grace is a grown adult and y’all are treating her like a kid. While Rain handled this in a really shit way and his comment was definitely rooted in sexism. Rain treats it as just Shit talking and Grace takes it all personally and way deeper than he does. Rain doesn’t give af about the corporate part of Faze. Grace is part of that side of Faze. She was caught in the crossfire which she didn’t deserve, but like Rain said he would have said that to anyone that got signed. And yes the higher ups most definitely knew he was going to do this because he already shit talked the other celebrity signings. Grace said they didn’t tell her rain was already going at corporate signings. You guys legit skipped parts of the video with context on why he doesn’t see it as Sexism because he has thick skin since he was in that side of the internet culture and why he’s going so hard on this. Grace isn’t built for drama which is ok not everyone is and Rain should have picked up on that and toned it down, but he’s passionate about Faze and Grace apparently kept talking shit about him on stream so he said fuck it, he has free reign to keep talking shit back. I’m not saying what he did was right, but that’s how he sees it. Grace was definitely a corporate sign and that’s fine. Rain should have gave her a chance to see if she was actually going to be just another celebrity signing like Snoop, Bronny, Yachty and whoever or if she was going to be what he thinks a true Faze member should be. He’s not entitled to that at all, but he is a founding member and is tired of seeing his company keep going down this road. He isn’t doing any of this because he’s gatekeeping women, he’s trying to stop the useless signings of celebrities. Because he said that mid/drunkest night comment all of a sudden you guys are making it out to be this war on women in gaming. To my knowledge he never said anything when they signed Kalei. Kalei plays Call of duty and is pretty good, but I can’t find a video of him talking about her. I agree they need more women in gaming, but Rain doesn’t want anyone to be signed man or woman because they’re famous he wants them to be signed because they know what Faze use to stand for and that was GAMING. I do feel bad for Grace because she didn’t deserve any of this at all, but let’s not act like she isn’t an adult .She set this meeting up in the first place, and imo she folded because she couldn’t explain why she isn’t a corporate signing. All she had to say was Rain should have gave her chance before talking shit to see what she even was going to do because she does play Valorant and streams and imo that’s already way better than the other signings. But I get it The gaming culture does have a misogynistic/sexist problem. It’s very toxic towards women. Rain just didn’t think about it like that and had tunnel vision on criticizing a celebrity who happened to be a woman. Also they should have at least watched the entire video without skipping to get full context. Grace admitted what she said about Rains Drug abuse was in bad taste and seeing Hila trying to justify it was legit annoying because she did bring that up with bad intentions. All in all Rain handle this like an Idiot, but let’s not make this out be something that it’s not. Also Grace could have completely dunked on Rain using him as example one of Misogyny in gaming. Rain may not think this isn’t rooted in misogyny, but it’s so ingrained gaming and life it definitely can be interpreted as such and she not wrong for thinking it was.
1. Him childishly calling her “Mid” is in no way a comparison to her not only throwing his overdose in his face, but almost manipulating the blow by bring up her mother’s addiction almost like saying “I can make fun of you for this bc I have a close family member who did the same thing”. 2.It was obviously a dig bc it wasn’t even in correlation with her point. Hila was reaching so hard trying to find a correlation😭 3. Rain is a idiot for even going after her in the first place, direct your anger towards the ppl who you should actually be mad at. 4. I get why rain was annoyed at her being hung up on the fact that he called her mid, like ok yea it was rude and childish asf but how much audacity do you need to hang that over someone head when you literally threw something like a overdose in their face, like let’s be forreal
Don’t downplay his blatant misogyny. He was being awful well before she brought up the overdose. Just because she made a low blow doesn’t excuse anything he’s said or done to her for literally no reason.
@@therealgremlin.It’s not a buzzword, other people are just educated enough to label a systemic problem, rather than lack the critical thinking to identify it in the first place 🙄
@Roar here I’ll explain it the way I would explain it to a 5th grader so you’ll understand better. He has no reason to hate on her, he has an issue with the fact that she is a woman. Hating someone for being a woman is misogyny. Do you understand now?
@@emmaolivas4005 but that’s literally not true💀 he hates other members of faze clan too that are males. He literally insulted a male during this whole situation as well. Jus bc it’s a male hating on a woman doesn’t mean the sole purpose of him hating on her is because she’s a woman. Stop trying to box people in these controversial categories just bc you don’t like them and wanna deem them as a evil person by any means possible.
She doesn't have to? Just because someone apologizes doesn't mean they meant it. He straight up used her. He knew if he drug her into this then it would get more attention. He is disgusting. And unfortunately the drugs he used can be playing a big factor in all of this. And that is sad. But it's not an excuse. And saying sorry doesn't always make up for actions.
@@kaceeharrison3715 but she is actively trying to use the company he built to push her name without any involvement with the people of faze, the fans, the community of faze. this is the whole point. she doesn't belong in faze and she cant handle it. faze rain doesn't need her faze don't need her the fans of faze don't need her she doesn't belong simple. there are plenty of women who game with the faze members and deserve her spot but wont get it because daddy didn't star in a movie. we have faze kalei , we got faze ewok we don't need faze get eaten by a demogorgon and this whole he used her to push his message is so dumb dude If you watched the video and have been keeping up with the situation rain calls out every recruit he don't like male female or hippo. she needed faze and she cant handle the fact the faze fans didn't need her
@@kaceeharrison3715 after watching the video, I believe faze rain genuinely wanted to apologize and make things right . That’s why he wanted to meet and talk to her. But throughout the video she was being the aggressor by calling him misogynistic and sexist while I believe he was trying to make peace at first. He got defensive by the end and thus the video ended in a shit show
I love h3 but they call guys gross and ugly and mid all the tim but once its a girl… and again. Makjng fun of his drug addiction/overdose vs calling someone mid is completely different realms….
Y’all sound like y’all never watched faze y’all are just milking this content like other faze members that shouldn’t have been recruited and other content creators
Olivia's power point presentation segments are genuinely so good and entertaining, hope we get more!
We need one on the Colleen ballinger situation and how she grooms her fans into a toxic bullying inappropriate relationship where she exploits them for money, views, tricks them into doing work, and has inappropriate sexual coverstations either her underage fans ✨👏
It like a granddaughter showing her grandad whats new lol
Ian’s PowerPoints were the best
@@yourmomoclock1092yes we do! Colleen is disgusting
Literally my fave segment
She's in the right 100%. Who cares what she brought up? He was rude to her, she can be rude back. His actions are far worse than hers. This isn't even up for discussion. If you're rude to someone and they're rude back, you got what you were looking for.
“You’ve been on one episode of stranger things” and your mid. Comparing to bringing up an addiction that almost killed him and paralysed him for a year
@@username-mf4mu You're defending a bully? Also, it was definitely more than those two comments.
nah not really his original video he didn't even insult her he said she got hired because she was in stranger things which is true. She then went at him and he said don't get cooked, she said she wanted to get cooked, she got cooked, she brought up him almost dying from drug addiction, he apologised, she brought up 13 year old tweets, then she cried. But ofcourse when a white girl cries she just can't be wrong in your eyes 🥺
@@TheDsdcd What's the point in saying why she got hired? That's still some form of insult and not needed.
@@TheDsdcdweird ass take away you must be a faze fan
i absolutely love olivia’s powerpoint segments, even if i’m not interested in the topic. i stan olivia so hard
Found her burner account^
@@Cryptum404 wow such an original joke i laughed so so hard
I *become* interested by her powerpoints
Dude fr. I was listening live, at work lol, and I wasn’t too into it. Now I’m re watching I’m so into it haha
I get he has a problem with how Faze is run, by why target her? Talk to your organization, lol.
As far as her bringing up his overdose, while its a super low blow, if you take the low road and attack someone, expect them to meet you there. I nor anyone is obligated to be respectful to those who don't respect us. Just my 2 cents
this is my exact opinion
talking to the organization won’t do anything at all, they’ve tried doing it that way a million times lmao, he wasn’t necessarily roasting her he was talking shit about the corporate people at FaZe recruiting yet another celebrity just to get more clout which isn’t her fault but talking shit about her being recruited is going to lead to her getting offended even though it’s not personal. And he already said that he didn’t give a shit about her bringing up his drug use, he was annoyed that she was playing victim when they both directed low blows at each other
He said he has tried that for a very long time but it was getting him nowhere so he's going public about this whole thing now.
@@mooteditsGoing public would have been fine. Being an asshole to a coworker like this doesn't equal that. All I got out of this is that faze is an org I should stay the fuck away from.
Disrespecting an innocent woman is an easier target. He’s a bully
Hila saying “he needs to find God or something” SENT ME
She’s the best 😂
Love when Hila and Olivia are both in the discussion
What’s scary is that he doesn’t seem to be an exception… he seems to be the norm
42:51 he is infantilizing her EVEN THO they are 1 year apart! HE IS abusive if he ever does this to children . he is being emotional by the way he is reacting
wow she's such a sweet young lady. wtf is wrong with this dude? just an animal. props to her to for being the daughter of casper, that's pretty cool. starship troopers troopers stand up!
also wtf that guy is supposed to be "rich"? he lives in a starter apartment like he works at carls jr?
Bro goo look into the full story i can’t lie rain came off hard but as someone who grew up watching faze rain he genuinely wants his company to go back to the way it is and he paved the way for gaming content creators by creating faze a gaming clan that took over the mainstream like bruh your watching people that are only making rain look bad
@@jeover8039 like you know nothing bro
@@pacegravity7635 I know what it is to be a decent human, I know what it is when someone is a piece of shit. I know right from wrong. This guy is a piece of shit and it's an over time thing, not just a single incident.
@Roar are you one of the faze follower incels?
Yeah Rain has just always been a fiery, emotional dude. It would have been sooo simple to side with Grace and aim his frustrations at the suits who are fucking up the company and tbh the whole esports industry. But no, he just had to make things weirdly personal and sexist against Grace. It's such a shame as a big fan of OG FaZe and even Rain back in the day.
Grace. Who deleted her stream after she went on a rant about his drug problems & drug overdose.
Which had nothing to do with the situation
@@julieannewaller7541 shes def wrong for that too lol
@@julieannewaller7541 after she was harassed over something not within her control at all?
like yes she shouldn’t have made a comment on it but a) she’s new to this sort of thing and b) she’s literally just responding to the unnecessary harassment she’s getting just for being signed. the problem is and should be with the leaders of faze, not grace.
@@julieannewaller7541 idk why yall are constantly trying to play victim for Rain. he said in his videos, and in private to Grace, that he didn't give a shit about her bringing up the drug thing. he literally told his followers it was lame to play the victim for him lol
@Julieanne Waller I think she was bringing it up bc he was treating her like she was beneath him. She was basically saying look. We are both humans we've both been thru shit and you should treat me with the same respect that i have given to you. It def didn't come across great, just my opinion!
You cant convince me he wasnt negging her with the insults
I think people have to remember that she grew up with a mother that was addicted to drugs, she's very familiar with how the deceptive and manipulative behaviour of an addict can be. I'm pretty sure she recognizes that behaviour in him around 45:00 , it can be traumatic af.
Great point!! And it seems like you are great at being empathetic/sympathetic (sorry I’m an idiot and half the time never can figure out which one applies lool)
@@allisoncastle You aren't stupid bb! sympathy is caring about the feelings of others even if you have not shared their experience. Empathy means you know how they feel from personal experience of the same situation and are sharing that compassion.
@@cthulhuhoops Aw thanks 💗 and thanks! Haha
Honestly, I could hear it in her voice, it sounded like she was remembering conversations with her mom who aside from being an addict also abused her; I would have straight up cried if I was her
I think she brought it up as saying you are no better than me, i am no better than you. We are equal and you should treat me as such and respect me. At least thats my take. Team grace 💯💯💯
try using your critical thinking skills for one second... oh wait
@@zoobiezaa 1000 bucks says you can’t even drive yet 💀
@@Justhppy2behere hopefully ur pretty wealthy
@@Justhppy2behere I’ll let you borrow 1k to pay him since I’m sure you don’t have it
@@zoobiezaa Try again noob.
Until people stop using b*tch and pussy words to describe bad behavior or being scared + it also describes women, that is when those boys become men and respect women up until then, I trust no man saying and using those words and keep saying we respect women.
I agreed with Ethan that it seemed mean spirited to bring up his drug abuse issues. There was no reason to mention it. But the dude was bullying her so he sucks.
sorry for coming in 2 months late but if the guy is literally bullying her for being a woman in gaming and being a pity feminist hire, i’m not saying she should have gone there but when he’s making potshots most people would also snap and fire back after a while
she has tonnes of clout in hollywood (her great grand uncle is the silent film actor Harold Lloyd, she's the great-great-great grandneice of THE Mark Twain, her grandmother is Princess Elizabeth of Yugoslavia and her great grandfather is Robert Mitchum and her Father is Rico) and still got treated like dirt and then goes and tries to make it in another industry and gets the same treatment.
The comment section is polluted a f lmao Not even talking about the ones attacking Grace, but also Hila and Olivia?? Like, do yall even know what it means to have your whole career, competence and achievements dismissed as "feminist tokenism"??? He basically insinuated her whole life she has been nothing more than a beneficiary of "diversity politics" ?? And said she doesnt even deserve that bcos she's "mid" ?? That's one of the greatest insults one can conjure up against a young woman. It can kill your self worth, esteem and make you doubt everything and everyone. It can cause you to get a severe imposter syndrome, rendering you unable to enjoy your hard earn achievements. Sorry to break it to yall, but It's just as bad as trying to put someone "in their place" by bringing up their past misfortunes and that's on that. Yall just cant seem to wrap your head around the fact that physical health and mental health are equally important and absence of one can affect another. Both people are wrong but that dude should've just stayed away from her and directed his anger towards the ones who really caused it. He started shit, he escalated it and now yall mad at HER to the point of even dragging these women with her for understanding what it means and what it feels like to be reduced to your genitalia and soft voice and what's associated with it?? Lol get rekt.
Lol relax you're a nobody
bro rain & faze fans have a problem when they introduce people who have no idea about gaming/history of faze. She indeed is a token used by corporate faze, it’s the same thing as when a POC gets introduced to something unnecessary with no logical reasoning. Yes Rain is trying to make corporate side of faze a nightmare & succeeding. Corporate side knew this would happen 💀
7 months late but YES, beyond tired of the “aw she went too far” narrative with women who slap back at misogynistic men. People saying “oh he JUST called her mid” no, he reinforced the age old misogynistic narrative that women’s value = their f*ckability to men, therefore if a man/men doesn’t find them attractive they have no value and should stfu/disappear/whatever. Ethan even said “I mean there’s certain things you just shouldn’t make fun of somebody for” yeah like being a woman??
All these people acting like her 1 comment ab his overdose was so much worse than his *repeated* misogynistic comments towards her just prove how insanely normalized and ingrained into our minds misogyny really is
It would be cool if Olivia had follow up presentations on topics she has covered especially if there’s more context to those topics
20:44 Olivia:“You just do a lil dance before” olivia is so funny with the little words she says i cant
I'm around the same age as all of the OG FaZe guys having grown up with FaZe and loving gaming and trickshotting back in the day. It's so sad to see that while I have matured and progressed as a human adult, most of these guys so very clearly have not. They are still locked in their 2013 teenage brains.
You can't fully blame them, as becoming rich and famous on the internet at such a young age, and then getting basically groomed by businessmen, definitely leads to its own unique struggles. But there comes a point when you are still accountable for your own actions. Rain's frustration with FaZe is sooo misguided. Instead of being mad at the boomers fucking up the industry he directs sexist hate to a random girl online? Kinda weird bro.
He literally made multiple videos explaining about how he got fucked over by the boomers. They go on and do the same shit and invite someone who has no place to be in other than shes famous. Yes she plays valorant she is nowhere near the pro level and she had no affiliation with the trickshotting part of faze she doesn’t deserve to be in faze. So what he did was mean but he did it to prove a point to the corporate people that he has power. Well thats why I think he did it and hell in a way it worked she removed faze from her twitter name. I do agree that it was stupid and immature but just telling the corporates to stop clearly wasn’t going to work
@@username-mf4mu firstly, it's grossly exclusionary to say someones value is based on childish ass trickshotting. Secondly, gaming orgs and orgs as a WHOLE can not grow if they don't cast a bigger net. Which is vital to keeping an org alive. Thirdly, it's disgusting to say that it's ok to send waves of hate and sexist remarks and angry fans at a woman IN YOUR ORG because you have a problem with MANAGEMENT'S decision to hire her. If he wanted to go the route of raising a fucking shit stink online, he should have been addressing FAZE AND MANAGEMENT, not her. She was just a new member she hadn't done anything to him at all when this started. Oh that's right I forgot, if he HAD attacked the organization over sexist feelings about a woman in the org, they probably would've fired them as they should.
Oh when he starts screaming and calling her a bitch …… That’s so embarrassing omg…………
22:15 I'm not defending her bringing it up, but I think the only reason she smiled was because she fumbled her words here.
Definitely what I thought to since I do the same thing when I stumble over my words
Chrissy wake up, I don’t like this
And show where rain went off like that after she implied rain was still on drugs & brought up his drug overdose and nearly died and then she deleted her stream.
@@julieannewaller7541 a recovering addict should always show more humility, though, because we can only keep what we have (clean time) by giving it away (carrying the message to the still suffering addict). My point is, this would’ve been a very productive teaching moment for both substance abuse awareness and the toxic bs between two adults. Instead, it looks like both sides were too immature to reach that outcome. In the end, Rain definitely started this like a fu***** child. Faze Clan as a whole is a joke and a shell of what it used to be.
i feel bad for her!! although she shouldnt have said “i know you as the one that almost od on stream” i still dont think that was really as bad as everything he said
yeah he borderline sexually harassed her. Shitting on him for OD'ing on stream is not good, but I can't blame her for slapping back
@@therealgremlin. assault? I didn't say that buddy, learn to read. I said it was borderline sexual harrassment, which it is. Talking about whether or not you want to fuck someone out of nowhere is obviously very inappropriate.
I think that the one thing she said was worse then any single thing he said but he said way more little digs at her. Like she did a quick single stab with a knife that cut deep but he would do like a hundred punches at her every time he talked
@@kharonhaden5136 except that's not true though is it? Because he's said multiple times that he doesn't care that she brought it up. So calling it a quick single stab with a knife that cut deep isn't true. It didn't cut deep. He just portrayed that it did to get more people to hate on this girl until he was over it and admitted he didn't care
Both of em need to wake up. But that dude has some serious issues. Even if he rewatched his video over and over he sees nothing wrong with the way he apologized. It's not sincere at all. The dm apology was way better but wtf
Her bringing up the drug stuff wasn't appropriate. You could reasonably interpret it as her showing they're both flawed and that they're not worth attacking each other over, but also could read it as her saying "Don't go after me for trickshotting when I could go after you for your overdose" which is pretty gross. But you could reasonably interpret it either way, like Ethan and Hila. But Rain is the reason for this even being a situation. He's the one who made it personal, and turned the sights on her. Also "politics" to him is apparently bringing on someone who isn't a dude. That in and of itself reveals the sexist sentiment underneath phony criticism.
He has the same 13 year old internet troll mentality in a grown man's body, that we see with a lot of others these days. He thinks life is a COD lobby. No, people don't have to just take senseless insults and abuse because "who cares what I think" You're allowed to be criticed for being a shitbag, and falling back on "why do you care/you shouldn't care about--" bullshit is cowardly not taking responsibility for bile that comes out of your mouth.
Rain is a toxic gaslighting shitbag. Grace seems a little inexperienced like Hila picked up on, but the fact she was willing to have a dialogue with that clout gremlin makes her look like a saint. Unfortunate she inherited this situation, all because shitbags like Rain weren't enough for the brand. She's better than the FaZe shit, leave and let it to die like it already was. She has so much more resources.
I think she meant that: she knows rain as 'the guy who overdosed on stream' when he was judging her as 'the girl from one episode of stranger things'
That's how I understood it.
It did feel incomparable though...
Honestly she’s better than me cause I would’ve played the same game and hit him with your dad left you after he said she was mid lmao
Feel she is sooooo nice person for not punching him in the face
coming back to this after spending the last 2 months watching Rainn’s snapchat story, he’s definitely let Andrew Tate become his new daddy and I’ve lost any old respect I had from the golden days of FaZe. and that’s not just a guess, he’s talked Andrew up on multiple podcasts before and after the police arrested him
Chrissy definitely ain't mid. She's gorgeous
Yikes. As someone who is trying to escape from a narcissistic brother, the way hes talking with her is so triggering. We havent talked in months (though living in the same house) but this still takes me back to the convos Ive had with him that would end just like that. I hope shes doing ok ❤
I was about to say he sounds like my narcissistic relatives I finally went no contact with, I started trembling with rage. That was exactly how they talked to me, I got so pissed I wasn't there to tell him off in person
Rain was completely in the wrong in this situation but i think the comment about his overdose was kinda fucked up from a moral standpoint but I don’t personally give a shit
Love this summary. I also agree. Yeah, is it not the nicest thing? Sure. But women don’t owe niceness or decency to anyone who fully does not respect them as a human being.
The world that we live in that some idiot I've never heard of, would make a video saying if he had a consenting Grace from Stranger Things trying to sleep with you, you wouldn't even on your drunkest night with a straight face????? Get the fuck out of here. Also, love this segment with Olivia. MOAR Olivia please. 😌 She's the queen.
we are gamer and I am 47 years old and it is so toxic people are crying out there, the faze crew are the worse
Olivia should’ve went over the faze vs rain stuff because they completely don’t understand the context that led to grace being in the crossfire
i love olivia’s power points! always get excited for these
she unfortunately doesn’t add context behind them
@@nothisispatrick1753 agreed
Hila looks amazing as always. I hope she’s doing this for herself and not the bullying she gets
@Zen Dissonance 💯💯💯
Wdym? I'd say she gets even more bullied now just seeing the comments men post about her recently
She’s such a stunning queen
Keem did this. Thank you Keem😂
Listen I Stan Olivia and with rain and his outburst saying the “wouldn’t touch her on my drunkest night” comment is an L but in the clip where grace brought up his OD past was clearly a dig they didn’t show where she also brought up some other Faze members SA allegations so it was CLEARY a dig towards them and rain. Rain even said in a video that he does want women and have diversity in faze clan but not in a shitty corporate way. Obviously what Nordan said was shitty and was definitely being an asshole and she doesn’t deserve the harassment, hate and disrespect that she received. I say this with peace and love 🙏
Poor Olivia's always getting talked over on her powerpoint
30:03 I’m tired of people acting like having connections is wrong. In my town farmers hire the people they know same with workers and companies. Why is it so bad for Hollywood? It’s the same concept
this is one of Hila’s best looks ever
The only point that says faze rain has is that a professional Esports organization should be hiring strictly on the ability to play games at the highest level. However women have been stomped on and pushed out and not treated like equals in the gaming space when this is the one sport ever invented designed to be equal
There’s something called faze 5 bro you actually get ranked and recruited by skill grace didn’t do that…
Listen to the shift in his voice after she says she doesn’t like him. That definitely hurt his feelings 😂 43:59
Omg the crew shitting on trick shots is making me so frustrated while I laugh. I went so hard for those stupid dance killcams as a kid
Give us the Lego segment highlights you heathens! I wanna be bricked up with the homies
Olivia stays quiet af when they talk about nepo babies 😮💨😮💨
Rain was trying to say that she did not make a good fit in faze, multiple times saying that he would not want his Mom, girlfriend or Drake in faze. People are let into faze knowing nothing about trickshotting is fucked honestly... THATS HOW IT WAS BUILT. Nobody in this video knows anything about faze.He is saying that because she was on stranger things This is the way faze is going... They Will recruit drake because they are a bunch of suit boomers. Anything for money into the company even if its disingenuous. This is a Very unprepared and misinformed interpretation of the whole thing. Nobody in this video was ever a OG faze fan and nobody here knows rain at all. Rain has stated he tried to go internally with all of this now he is exposing faze, while some of what he is saying is misdirected and mean hes gonna do it however He wants to do it, in His Own company... He built it.
Also rain isnt in a wheelchair anymore... misinformed
Hila is so beautiful I love her so much also Olivia is my powerpoint queen. I love the education I am receiving.
i just think its weird that while her premise was to gain some sort of similarity, or common ground in regards to his OD, why would she end the video with "were not on the same plane"...?
Is it an American thing to eat chilli con carne without any type of carb? As a Brit that’s SO WEIRD to me that she just ate a bowl of what I would consider sauce 🤔
No, we def eat it with rice or cornbread.
@@carnuatus glad to know Ham is the weird one
What? Chili is a sauce ⁉️😭
@@rVnsunshine not like a condiment but like a curry sauce ? Idk if you get me
Hila is so stunning
Olivia did a bad job at providing context that led to everything. Before grace
Hard abuser vibes from this dude yipes
Love When liv gives us the class presentation
Bring back Ian’s PowerPoints please
😭😡how can you let people affect your emotions??😡😭
Fucking hell. Olivia’s research skills is about on par with a baked potato
I don’t know shit about faze but I know more about what’s going on with faze rain than the girl who is supposedly did all the research on him. I accidentally saw one video three months ago😂
Ooh so he is on a wheelchair because of that overdose? I think this girl seems to be a very sweet person, but she shouldnt have touched a very sensitive topic like that
The only thing I agree with Faze Rain on is that Stranger Things is kinda lame lol
Faz was a failure and had to get bailed out.
Can’t wait til Love gets here!!
Faze’s actions are atrocious but she did make a couple errors here: first was putting out the video bringing up his overdose. That was a low blow let’s all be honest here. The second was when they were trying to squash beef for her to bring up that old tweet. I’m just trying to figure out what was the strategy here? If you’re trying to make peace you don’t come to the table and antagonize the other party like that. His response was also horrific but I’m confused what was the purpose of her going there anyways? I think deep down she didn’t want to make peace and was still upset(which she has every right to be) and wanted to still clap back at him. You would have to do some serious dirt digging to do back to find a now decades old tweet. And also what was the point? She proves he’s misogynistic(which he is clearly) and then he’s suppose to agree? Then what? Still on her side in this whole dispute tho.
It actually would be great if he admitted to being misogynistic. Acknowledgment is the first step to fixing or changing something, and no misogynist is going to heal until they recognize the problem
@@Anngrl69 you are absolutely right about that. What I was trying to say is this was not the way to squash beef. The conversation should have been kept to him saying sorry for his tweets and his video and her saying sorry for what she said in her video, shake hands, hug it out, whatever and then that’s it, end the conversation. Although I do gotta admit he definitely would have done something else sexist towards her had she continued to stay in Faze Clan.
50:20 Join and Leave NASDAQ Any % Speedrun
Hila has been slayyyyyying lately
22:12 I need to know what happened with SSSniperwolf now
Faze Down!
Ig I can’t call women mid anymore with out being sexist 🤣
Shit is crazy.
I wish miz and ethan would do something together, anything, it would have to be something very silly
More Olivia powerpoints please!
i was here before any comments
No me
@@bylthe727 nah uh
@@r.i.pmydog7723 yeah huh
calling someone mid isn’t misogynistic😭 if a guy called another guy ugly it would just be considered a mean comment, but when you call a girl mid it’s misogynistic, makes no sense
Ethan and Hila call men ugly all the time.
that was a reffernce to the movie this the end he just forgot about it
the opioids thing makes it all make sense
What does calling someone "mid" mean?
Below average basically calling someone ugly
@@kawaiiki123 You mean just average?
Forgot this podcast is for people who are different
FaZe Rain’s entire point is that FaZe Clan is supposed to be the best gamers. That’s what FaZe was and should be, but the organization keeps bringing on people who aren’t good at gaming. Just because you like content of personality rather than watching the best of the best, doesn’t mean that they should be in FaZe. That take just missed the point. Saying that she admits that she’s not good at gaming but you like to watch that content anyways, means you know nothing about FaZe, who is this girl bro
It’s about taking good gamers that don’t have name for them self and giving them a name. Like imagine being a lil kid dreaming of joining faze and they come out with a recruit challenge faze5 and your grinding all day and getting on right after school to grind for clips and imagine doing all that for them to recruit GRACE like she already has a name for her self and don’t know shit about faze like y’all don’t understand it’s literally spitting in the those lil kids faces and saying you’ll never have a chance to join faze
@@pacegravity7635yes definitely that too, FaZe used to bring people in who weren’t known and were amazing gamers. It gave them the spotlight. They shouldn’t bring people in who is already known and brings no gaming value to FaZe
55:45 Rain said they didn’t even ask members inside bruh
if you haven’t been a fan of FaZe since the beginning then you’re missing a lot of context
And them talking about trickshotting and clowning rain for that completely blew over there head faze literally came up from tirckshotting like that’s how they were know back in the day and being in faze not knowing what a trick shot is literally crazy like that’s what they are know for
Ethan is 100% factual in every sentence 🫡
I hope this is sarcasm
I don't think Rain is a loser lol. Grace doesn't have 10 mil either so what does that make her lmao.
It’s about taking good gamers that don’t have name for them self and giving them a name. Like imagine being a lil kid dreaming of joining faze and they come out with a recruit challenge faze5 and your grinding all day and getting on right after school to grind for clips and imagine doing all that for them to recruit GRACE like she already has a name for her self and don’t know shit about faze like y’all don’t understand it’s literally spitting in the those lil kids faces and saying you’ll never have a chance to join faze
get rekt with a hard R
LMFAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
you guys do not know the full story
bruh fr this was painful 😹
Like y’all watched Aiden Ross react to it and instantly said Aiden agreed with Grace when Aiden literally calls rain 5mins into the vid and talks to rains
Beauty is subjective
Love to see Ethan harping about someone calling a girl a bitch online. Surely Ethan hasn’t ever done that, many times even, that would be hypocritical!
well some girls are bitches, it's not hypocritical if its true
He’s said like a million times over the past year that he’s trying not to say that word anymore because it’s wrong to call women that, and that he hates that he has ever used it in the past. I get you all just jump onto a random video to hate though. Just try to be accurate about it.
you when people change over time: 🫨🤯
@@reillyschimmel9323 me when people cope 😴
to be honest ethan and hila, you 2 do not understand what faze used to be. it was like a family growing together back in new york, rain being the main inspiration of that by showing everyone there how it’s done, never asking for a penny in return. it was all good hearts who didn’t care about the money yet. now faze is a content farm who partners with literally anyone if it benefits them, that’s what upsets rain.
To be honest @wurhybb, you do not understand what the problem is. It’s not grace’s, right? It’s faze rain and whoever they sold it to. …so why be so nasty to Grace? He turned his anger to an innocent person who got hired by the person he hates. Be upset to the owners, not the new hire. He’s being a bully.
Them being cool back in the day doesn’t give him a free pass to bully and make fun of a new co-worker.
Any work place off the internet? his comments would have gotten him fired. Full blown SH.
Ive heard faze as a gamer in general but I've never consumed any of there work. He honestly sounds like a hell to work with. She made a slip up by this dude is on another level mean.
@@kazen16 not even the talent side of the og crew. just what they did, it hadn’t been done before. it’s just with how much rain put into this brand you can’t expect him not to be mad about it yk? faze is his whole life’s work at this point
@@makeupandvlogs2071 because he sacrificed his childhood after 14 to build faze. this is his life’s work just being sold around like a nice car nowadays. not saying he’s right, just saying you can’t expect him not to be mad about it yk?
Hila don’t know what she talkin bout 😭
neither do you it seems
Tough watch…
the reason he seemed so hostile at the end is because he was super polite and apologetic in the beginning of the video until she kept making digs at him, she even said that she wanted to meet a troll in person meaning she wasn’t meeting up with him in good faith, she wanted to try and make him look bad which obviously pissed him off
The only comment that actually points out that they viewed everything out of context. We don’t have to pick sides to admit that.
I’m sorry, but Grace is a grown adult and y’all are treating her like a kid. While Rain handled this in a really shit way and his comment was definitely rooted in sexism.
Rain treats it as just Shit talking and Grace takes it all personally and way deeper than he does.
Rain doesn’t give af about the corporate part of Faze. Grace is part of that side of Faze. She was caught in the crossfire which she didn’t deserve, but like Rain said he would have said that to anyone that got signed. And yes the higher ups most definitely knew he was going to do this because he already shit talked the other celebrity signings. Grace said they didn’t tell her rain was already going at corporate signings.
You guys legit skipped parts of the video with context on why he doesn’t see it as Sexism because he has thick skin since he was in that side of the internet culture and why he’s going so hard on this. Grace isn’t built for drama which is ok not everyone is and Rain should have picked up on that and toned it down, but he’s passionate about Faze and Grace apparently kept talking shit about him on stream so he said fuck it, he has free reign to keep talking shit back. I’m not saying what he did was right, but that’s how he sees it.
Grace was definitely a corporate sign and that’s fine. Rain should have gave her a chance to see if she was actually going to be just another celebrity signing like Snoop, Bronny, Yachty and whoever or if she was going to be what he thinks a true Faze member should be. He’s not entitled to that at all, but he is a founding member and is tired of seeing his company keep going down this road.
He isn’t doing any of this because he’s gatekeeping women, he’s trying to stop the useless signings of celebrities. Because he said that mid/drunkest night comment all of a sudden you guys are making it out to be this war on women in gaming.
To my knowledge he never said anything when they signed Kalei. Kalei plays Call of duty and is pretty good, but I can’t find a video of him talking about her.
I agree they need more women in gaming, but Rain doesn’t want anyone to be signed man or woman because they’re famous he wants them to be signed because they know what Faze use to stand for and that was GAMING.
I do feel bad for Grace because she didn’t deserve any of this at all, but let’s not act like she isn’t an adult .She set this meeting up in the first place, and imo she folded because she couldn’t explain why she isn’t a corporate signing.
All she had to say was Rain should have gave her chance before talking shit to see what she even was going to do because she does play Valorant and streams and imo that’s already way better than the other signings.
But I get it The gaming culture does have a misogynistic/sexist problem. It’s very toxic towards women. Rain just didn’t think about it like that and had tunnel vision on criticizing a celebrity who happened to be a woman.
Also they should have at least watched the entire video without skipping to get full context. Grace admitted what she said about Rains Drug abuse was in bad taste and seeing Hila trying to justify it was legit annoying because she did bring that up with bad intentions.
All in all Rain handle this like an Idiot, but let’s not make this out be something that it’s not.
Also Grace could have completely dunked on Rain using him as example one of Misogyny in gaming. Rain may not think this isn’t rooted in misogyny, but it’s so ingrained gaming and life it definitely can be interpreted as such and she not wrong for thinking it was.
1. Him childishly calling her “Mid” is in no way a comparison to her not only throwing his overdose in his face, but almost manipulating the blow by bring up her mother’s addiction almost like saying “I can make fun of you for this bc I have a close family member who did the same thing”.
2.It was obviously a dig bc it wasn’t even in correlation with her point. Hila was reaching so hard trying to find a correlation😭
3. Rain is a idiot for even going after her in the first place, direct your anger towards the ppl who you should actually be mad at.
4. I get why rain was annoyed at her being hung up on the fact that he called her mid, like ok yea it was rude and childish asf but how much audacity do you need to hang that over someone head when you literally threw something like a overdose in their face, like let’s be forreal
Don’t downplay his blatant misogyny. He was being awful well before she brought up the overdose. Just because she made a low blow doesn’t excuse anything he’s said or done to her for literally no reason.
@@therealgremlin.It’s not a buzzword, other people are just educated enough to label a systemic problem, rather than lack the critical thinking to identify it in the first place 🙄
@Roar well homie mad cause she can stand up to the bullshit and he cant😂😂😂😂😂.
@Roar here I’ll explain it the way I would explain it to a 5th grader so you’ll understand better. He has no reason to hate on her, he has an issue with the fact that she is a woman. Hating someone for being a woman is misogyny. Do you understand now?
@@emmaolivas4005 but that’s literally not true💀 he hates other members of faze clan too that are males. He literally insulted a male during this whole situation as well. Jus bc it’s a male hating on a woman doesn’t mean the sole purpose of him hating on her is because she’s a woman. Stop trying to box people in these controversial categories just bc you don’t like them and wanna deem them as a evil person by any means possible.
Just by looking at the dude with the pedo mustache, I could tell he was gonna hate on faze and rain just by his looks and how he talks crazzzy
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stop cutting a 40 minute conversation and justifying shitty takes. man apologized 30 times in the video she didnt want to accept it.
She doesn't have to?
Just because someone apologizes doesn't mean they meant it.
He straight up used her.
He knew if he drug her into this then it would get more attention.
He is disgusting. And unfortunately the drugs he used can be playing a big factor in all of this. And that is sad.
But it's not an excuse. And saying sorry doesn't always make up for actions.
@@kaceeharrison3715 but she is actively trying to use the company he built to push her name without any involvement with the people of faze, the fans, the community of faze.
this is the whole point. she doesn't belong in faze and she cant handle it. faze rain doesn't need her faze don't need her the fans of faze don't need her she doesn't belong simple.
there are plenty of women who game with the faze members and deserve her spot but wont get it because daddy didn't star in a movie.
we have faze kalei , we got faze ewok we don't need faze get eaten by a demogorgon
and this whole he used her to push his message is so dumb dude If you watched the video and have been keeping up with the situation rain calls out every recruit he don't like male female or hippo.
she needed faze and she cant handle the fact the faze fans didn't need her
@@kaceeharrison3715 and coming and the man for his overdose is CRAZY and I would reassess who you call disgusting 👀
@@kaceeharrison3715 after watching the video, I believe faze rain genuinely wanted to apologize and make things right . That’s why he wanted to meet and talk to her. But throughout the video she was being the aggressor by calling him misogynistic and sexist while I believe he was trying to make peace at first. He got defensive by the end and thus the video ended in a shit show
Show the context actually? Nah?
I love h3 but they call guys gross and ugly and mid all the tim but once its a girl… and again. Makjng fun of his drug addiction/overdose vs calling someone mid is completely different realms….
Gotta say. The thumbnail for this is so on point. Olivia showing us how she got the job.
She didn’t make it
Damn. I never wanted to be a man telling a woman she made a sexist comment, but here we are.
Y’all sound like y’all never watched faze y’all are just milking this content like other faze members that shouldn’t have been recruited and other content creators