Lizzo Accusers Claim Dancers Feared Retaliation If They Didn't Do What She Wanted | TMZ
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- Опубліковано 1 сер 2023
- The singer's former backup dancers, Arianna Davis, and Crystal Williams, joined us Wednesday on "TMZ Live" and told us about their experiences working under Lizzo.
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what kind of lawyer agrees to let their client do a live interview before the case lmao
Yeah. This did not help them.
Put maximum pressure on Lizzo so she settles an arrangement with them to save her reputation.
Right! And on TMZ, a tabloid platform.
They want publicity. They're hoping Lizzo settles.
Meanwhile Lizzo eating DONUTS
Never treat your employees like your friends.
I think the attorney should've prepped them better. "Unspoken feelings" don't win lawsuits.
Yeah. This interview did not help them.
this isn't court this is TMZ
TMZ or court...they now have a video of them stating this was all "feelings based" I don't see this case being strong in court because of said comments.
In my opinion the defendants attorney will claim disgruntled ex employee & highlight THIS video stating this weren't discretely saidnor done, just that they 'felt' a certain way.
Just my opinion. 😊
You gotta understand that they were reliving those emotions during this interview. They definitely should've been prepared better for this interview though, but the emotions are still fresh so its hard to push through them
@@agentcodybanx8909 They're should have passed on the interview then.
This sounds more personal than something illegal 🤔
Once more, a proof that nobody should be put on such a pedestal. It's time for celebrity culture to end.
yessssssss thank you ive been saying this for years. even my favorite singers,rappers,atheletes, and actors ebsides their element i dotn hesitant to call out on their bullshit
Same comment everywhere
celebrity culture is dead. why you think we have more influencers and internet tiktok stars nowadays
Lizzo is the biggest hypocrite who manipulates her fans to stroke her precious ego when she whines that she's being body shamed after she tells everyone she loves being fat and doesn't care what people think or say.
It's so her fans will tell her how beautiful she looks because she clearly doesn't like the way she looks, otherwise she wouldn't draw attn to it and feed into the criticism.
You can't get through a day w/o yet another celeb announcing yet another personal woe for attn & sympathy. The entire culture has become a cesspool of victims, all jockeying for a kick at the can because they're addicted to attn & sympathy. GROSS!
@@MrDotman94 Why not...in response to the same old bullsh*t every time you turn around and another celeb is bemoaning over their private, personal woes!
At exactly 4 minutes into this video you can see it in the lawyers eyes that this interview was a mistake and they might not have a case anymore.
Well this aged badly....
They need to explain what “Super Fun” is defined as… because another news outlet stated Lizzo expected them to conduct inappropriate acts at private parties/vacations.
Yeah like eating 🍌out of the Yoohoo
@@vanvarner7679 they aint mention that cuz they woulda of sounded even dumber
It’s in the paperwork y’all going off interviews alone. Gotta read too
This going to be hard to prove. It’s all what they felt and what they assume was thought by Lizzie team.
They literally have emails from Lizzo's management. This is no different from a work environment expecting "team players" or "culture committee behavior" at the workplace, where you are expected to go along to get along, even if it's against your will.
This interview didn’t cover everything, there’s witnesses to many of the events named in actual documents
Everything is "I felt..." nothing factual.
There are witnesses to all her different kinds of abuse. But sadly they’ll all just be bought out.
“Energies shifting” and “looming feeling” do not make one guilty this is starting to seem very very weird 🤨 and the “other dancers being invited more” it’s giving jealousy very much so 😬
They sound like they mad cause they didnt get to go to the island
LAMO THIS
That’s all
If Lizzo wins this lawsuit (which she probably will because these girls lack evidence) she's probably gonna counter sue them for defamation of character. So I hope their lawyer knows what he's doing.
Eh. It would look bad on her to do that. And if they don't have the money, it's not worth it for her to even go through the process.
How you know they “lack” evidence? More is coming out. Pump your brakes and let it unfold before you judge.
@@denisealex213 I was basing that on their lawsuit and this interview.
Yeah, so far the headlines hold more weight than these interviews and the lawsuit itself. I really hope they're hiding receipts somewhere. I very much believe they went to thar sex show and ate the coochie banana but I'm starting to doubt Lizzo was like "you have to eat this coochie banana" LOL... especially because the girl on the left was still praising Lizzo in videos and trying to get on the next season of her show AFTER that incident. Idk. I think Lizzo might be a tough person to dance for and I also think she messed up by trusting these girls enough to mix business and pleasure... but there isn't actually any solid statements to back up the "sexual harrassment," "assault," "religious and racial discrimination" and "fat shaming" charges. And if their case turns out to be as weak as it sounded in this interview, Lizzo probably should countersue for defamation of character in the same damn court case. With that said, if Lizzo I'd guilty of being mean - I hope this changes her behavior moving forward.
@@Jana-fh7gk it seems to me like they had a falling out with Lizzo and now they wanna get back at her because most of these incidents happened a while ago but we'll see as the case unfolds.
If you're on contract, weight gain will be questionable. All your costumes have been fitted and there may be a visual already in place for your role. Actors, actresses, dancers gain and lose weight all the time to fit their roles. Also, if the lines were blurred from employees to friends, of course those "employees" would be favored for non work related trips and activities. Everything seems opinionated here and irrelevant. Now waiting for the sexual harassment part..... I mean, if you're going to a strip club in the red light district in Amsterdam, expect to see some shit. I wouldn't have gone with my "boss" tho. 💁♀️
The attorney realized he has no case because feelings are not evidence
He's still getting paid one way or another
The more these girls talk the more Lizzo’s attorneys are jumping with joy. Sounds like a lot of assumptions and feelings and very, very little hard proof to support these very damaging accusations. Assumptions don’t win lawsuits.
To the cowards who instantly call these dancers "liars" with ZERO proof: so you just AUTOMATICALLY BELIEVE EVERYTHING SOMEBODY (Lizzo) TELLS YOU JUST BECAUSE THEY ARE RICH & FAMOUS PERSON WHO DOES NO REAL HARD or USEFUL WORK?
I knew people jumped the gun 😂
Literally
@theultimatereductionist7592 how is not believing something that doesn't sound right to people, makes said people "Cowards".. That is literally the most asinine thing that I read on this topic.. 🤦🏿♂️🤦🏿♂️
@@theultimatereductionist7592 whilst I'm sure some people will blindly defend their favourite celerities no matter what for the majority of people defending her this is not the case! In the court of Law it is INNOCENT until proven guilty for good reason, it protects people in cases where scorn people make up random accusations to hurt you. Putting the fact that she's a celebrity aside it's important not to automatically jump into supporting either side until the facts are in the table! When I say facts I don't mean story's or abuse or how they are made to feel..these things alone are not evidence. I get why people like to show support to people who claim to be victims of abuse especially when it's someone with a lot of power who is accused and likewise I get why fans want to be quick to defend their favourite artist but the best thing to do is sit back and watch until we get the full story! The way you are blindly attacking anyone who defends lizzo is hypocritical there really isn't any evidence either way yet ..just because you beluve the dancers doesn't make it the truth so it's unfair to attack anyone who disagrees with you !
Why wouldn’t you want to bring the dancers that are also your friends on personal trips with you? These chicks were getting fired and they brought a lawsuit, plain and simple.
Unfortunately, their first statement makes it sound like they’re upset that they’re bad at networking.
Lizzo’s main problem is, partying with the help, and a bad legal team. Lizzo’s lawyers should have advised her to keep a safe distance from her staff outside of work hours. Perhaps dinners to bond with the team, but no strip clubs, no bars, no invites to hotel rooms, and definitely no home visits, unless it’s in rehearsal space. I have a friend who’s worked for a well known Irish band for years, and that separation of church and state is clean and contracted. Full NDA’s signed, definitely no cell phone’s allowed in rehearsal. HR policies in place, sufficient pay for the work done, rest and down time, health insurance, termination policies so everything is very clear. Let’s say Lizzo did nothing wrong here, her reputation is going to suffer big time, but for a hot minute. She’ll likely have to settle to make it all go away, bcs something tells me these ladies have proof of something more than what’s being disclosed here. Will be interesting to see how this plays out! Regardless if true or not, if Lizzo makes money for the Hollywood industry, this will be over in a few months.
You clearly know nothing about the entertainment industry to even say 'partying with the help. It doesn't work like that. Entertainers often form the closest bond with members of their entourages which include salaried people like their dancers, PA's etc. Haven't J LO, Britney Spears and even Mariah till this day have serious long term relationships with their dancers. Janet Jackson is close friends with her 90's era dancers to this day and Ashley Everett was close with Beyonce also. 'Partying with the help' isn't the issue. Her warped character is.
boom
While I don't know all the details, it seems like the dancer claiming weight shamming is talking a lot about how she 'felt,' but nothing was directly said to her. She frequently said "I would feel..," "it made me feel..."
The allegations are horrible, I just don't know how strong her case is if their nothing directly said to her, just how she felt certain ways. Or that they felt like not being down to party would keep them from getting more jobs, even though it wasn't said. I think a seasoned attorney will run with that.
Just my opinion. 🤷♀️
Not a fan of Lizzo but they are talking more about their feelings...Talk about the facts
I don't see what she did wrong if you giving off boring or rude vibes she got the right to fire you a temp at the end of the day.
The lawyer looks like a cardboard cutout in the middle... 😂
So y’all mad y’all wasn’t on the private jet and on tropical vacations??
Lawsut for being mean? Lol
These are disgruntled employees. It's obvious.
Two lawyers allowed this woman get away with saying: "looming feeling..." as a fact of abuse. This is why so many innocent people are in prison because majority of people have chosen dense over discernment. Remember, "a brain is a terrible thing to waste".
Right. "Feelings".
It's "A mind is a terrible thing to waste".
Everything they are saying is heresay and assumptions. They can't prove the people who hung out after hours and those that didn't work more or not, it seems pretty made up after a few got together to vent, blew it out of proportion and decided to embolden each other enough to sue, which is typical money grubbing. You don't sue for these things! You move on and realize it just didn't work out! And I know when I start to gain weight, my dancing isn't as good, so maybe she was slipping!
So making people eat bananas out of peoples unmentionables is ok??
Cope and seethe 😂😂😂😂
Videos have been released, try again
@@b.v3151can you drop the links?
@@b.v3151what?
It’s really 50/50. The problem is if it’s not true, the damage has been
Done and an innocent persons life has been irreparably damaged. Lizzo strikes me as a free spirit and maybe she crossed the line. She should have been more guarded and professional.
She's a bully
@@taxie27 how so?
Agreed it sounds like they're putting word's in her mouth and listening it sounds like here say rather than lizzo implicitly saying it out of her mouth
"If"? "If" Lizzo was a man, they'd be calling for her head already
This is delicate because of the ex employee’s perception of being sexually harassed and the legal definition aren’t the same thing.
BINGO!!!!!!!!!
That's what I'm thinking. A lot of their responses were about it never being said, just what they felt like they had to do.
I think any lawyer would take those comments and run with them.
They have freedom of speech. Liz-bitch has ZERO authority over them now that they no longer work for her.
To the cowards who instantly call these dancers "liars" with ZERO proof: so you just AUTOMATICALLY BELIEVE EVERYTHING SOMEBODY (Lizzo) TELLS YOU JUST BECAUSE THEY ARE RICH & FAMOUS PERSON WHO DOES NO REAL HARD or USEFUL WORK?
@@theultimatereductionist7592 no I don’t believe them because they sound like they have no case and just sone bruised feelings.
This interview has nothing to do with sexual harassment. All the other headlines say sexual harassment alleged
I keep watching these videos trying to hear what really happened but all I’m getting is she favored dancers she had more fun with
Y’all gotta read the paper work taking them to live sex shows without their consent, making them do sexual things with sex performers, pressuring girls that say no. It’s disgusting
You'd have to hear the CBS News
interview
I read the court documents and these girls are in trouble, everything in the document was all (He said she said) if lizzo decides to counter sue for defamation they have to prove everything that they’re saying is true. If any little sliver is off, they basically lose the entire lawsuit.
I think the girls were hoping for a settlement, but I don’t think it’s gonna happen because celebrities like Lizzo take their brand very seriously. And settling almost makes it seem like Lizzo is guilty.
Exactly!
“I think” “I feel” “Lizzo management” can’t really make a case abt assumptions. Ppl need to realize the weight gain comment wasn’t meant a malicious thing. When going on tour your going to get fitted so you can fit into clothes and with her weight gain they probably wanted to know so they can work with her but obviously she got butt hurt and now she’s attempting to sue her
This is perfect example of why you should NEVER let your clients speak beyond rehearsed statements. Feelings? Energy?! No reasonable judge accredits that line of accusation noteworthy…that lawyer should have ended the interview and responded later. Lizzo’s attorneys can use this opportunity to claim coordination of false allegations. I believe these women were sexually harassed by Lizzo, but this interview doesn’t help them.
I hope that have some real hardcore evidence because from this interview they have nothing.
The court filings have the professional language.
Agree. All sounds airy fairy. And they kept trying to speak in riddles.. not being clear or just straight to the point at all.
I'm sure he told them how much they can say and how much they couldn't.
EXACTLY
Girl if you're a dancer you have to maintain a certain weight even if you're a plus size dancer. This sounds like they got their feelings hurt and trust me I'm no lizzo fan at all. These girls are all vibes and feels. Wont hold up in court.
I don’t know why you guys are so ignorant. Lizzo literally made them feel uncomfortable and put them in a sexually dangerous environment trying to make them to do things they didn’t wanna do and brought sexual shit up all the time. Literally asked one of them to touch another performer. How would you feel if your boss asked you to touch another of one your coworkers? Would you not feel uncomfortable?? These girls looked up to lizzo and all she did was abuse her position of power and wanted to mess with them and do sick shit. So many of you guys put these people on a pedestal when in reality we don’t know them at all and most of them are manipulative narcissists who put on a facade that’s not who they are at all. These women are brave for trying to expose her. It’s never okay to do that especially when it’s people that are working for you. That’s so wrong on so many levels and I’m sure they’re traumatized from the shit she was doing. And even putting her fists up wanting to fight one of them too. Like there’s so many awful things she did and there’s a lot of witnesses too but sadly they’ll probably just receive money in compensation
If Lizzo was super professional and “not fun” she would have been called entitled and snobby, she’s friendly and still gets trashed. No win for celebrities
Yep....they sound like entitled school kids.
She was literally telling them to touch other performers bodies that’s not having fun that’s wrong and sexual harassment. They felt pressured to do certain things they were not comfortable with and that isn’t okay and how you treat the people that work for/with you. The way you guys treat people coming forward and idolize celebrities you don’t even know personally is ridiculous
Anyone with legal experience knows that nothing they said on this show will result in a successful lawsuit. " Energy" isn't a thing that a judge will consider. It was completely up to these ladies to partake or not. Unless Lizzo directly said to do it or get fired, no case . I personally don't care for her just because of the way she holds herself in public and around children. Nothing wrong with loving yourself but don't expose children to your " selflove" in public like that sis. I still don't think they have a case though
Agreed. Most workplace lawsuits fizzle or settle if it's not blatant out right sexual harassment and I'm not hearing that at least not enough for it to stick.
They may not have a case, but by coming forward with these allegations, it will definitely affect lizzos career, which will still be a win in they're book im sure.
I agree.
@JuanVasquez-zz1mx lmao she didnt abuse anyone from what Im hearing. They seem mad that they got let go and are on a smear campaign/blackmailing spree. Im not getting the outrage
@@lacheinc lmfao bruh i swear these hoes mad they aint get to go o the private jet .. if u cant dance cuz u gettin too fat for the fat dancers & even lizzo is "concerned about your weight" like she said that should be a sign your going too far
I'm confused on why they suing tho?
Right!
Work place discrimination, hostile work environment
@@ponny2948 So the hostile work environment is because Lizzo wanted to hang out with other dancers and not them?
Ok so Ariana is one of the best dancers there but she did gain A LOT of weight which can affect her ability to keep up with everyone. They a dancers what they do is very physical and having a huge weight gain is concerning especially over a short period of time. I would have asked the same thing, is everything okay? If she then said she suffered from anxiety and depression and has a whole eating problem that is grounds for dismissal because I can get sued for negligence. If a dancer is struggling with mental health she is not good to take on tour and do shows. Knowing this you could be putting her health be it mentally or physically in danger. It’s like blatantly ignoring red flags. Lizzo did the right thing to dismiss Ariana. As for the other two girls I don’t know enough about those.
OMG these girls would not last five minutes in the hardcore professional world. Young people are so delicate
The hardcore professional world is corrupt. They learned this. Moving on.
True that I see this on my job everyday I'm in supervision and this young generation cannot handle constructive criticism
@@anthonytaylor7928it’s not constructive criticism if your are degrading, insulting, and approaching them in an unprofessional and disrespectful way. You know nothing about the young generation oldie. 😂
@@avamadison4388 and I agree thats true if u are actually doing that . But how do we know she or her staff was actually doing that . If ur in mngt or supervision for a company u dam well know it's a lot liability as to what u say and how u say to an employee thats why u can't give a title and put a person in charge without proper HR or leadership training ive dealt with it for over 30 years .but u go ask any oldie like me as u call me and I wear it proud too and I thank u for that . How the work ethic has changed in the last ten years u can barely have a professional dialogue in the workplace and give constructive criticism to a young person without them getting Soo sensitive . I think lizzos mistake is she probably didn't separate the personal side from the professional side u can't do both they will probably settle out of Court and move on and I think lizzos and her staff will learn from it move on ..
@@anthonytaylor7928 nope it’s not called sensitive when older people think they have the upper hand and sense of pride. Just bc you worked longer dosent mean you do or know better. Oldies like you must sense intimidation through younger folks and take that out on them saying things like “I know better” “I have more experience” your just old af dosent mean you’re the best at the job. It ain’t sensitive when you’ve got people significantly older criticizing young people it’s intimidation. You never see a 50 year against another 50 year old on their work ethic.
The “um” “uh” “like” they wouldn’t last in court.
Sounds like Lizzo on a power trip and wants to be accepted in a popularity contest from the internal crew..
This is how a narcissist runs their shit. Has everyone competing for favoritism and a seat at the table.
This interview didn’t even touch on any of the serious allegations.
What's hurt Lizzo the most is the whole thing about the events in Amsterdam and what the female director stated regarding the toxic environment and why she left the documentary. That's the most telling and damaging.
All the other stuff is, sadly, weak when it comes to the justice system, for several reasons, one being that there is no direct call, nor evidence of such, to do this or that, or that their jobs were indeed on the line if they didn't do x or y, it's all hearsay so far.
Now the whole Amsterdam thing that's different as to what happened and if anyone was either forced or not, the reality is, it is not a working setting, if any video surfaces of Lizzo saying as much as "do it! Do it!", or if any witness comes forward saying they heard her saying as much, she's done.
And the statements from the female director establishes the incidence within the work environment of any such behaviour, a pattern or behaviour, that whe you piece all together a good Lawyer can make a pretty damn good case that at the least will get those involved a decent amount from a settlement.
As to the allegations of sexual harrasment, well, it's simple, once you remove how THEY FEEL and put it in the context of what THE LAW identifies as sexual harrasment, we'll be able to see if there is merit to the allegations.
Not saying they don't have the right to feel a certain way, just saying that just because you feel that way does not mean that's what happened in the eyes of law.
I heard about a female director talking about Lizzo's hostile work environment.
Saying someone’s actions made you feel “uncomfortable” can already be held as some type of harassment. This case might be that way in a different state, but in CA, if you felt in “danger” then that’s basis to press charges 🤷🏽♀️ I know, cuz I’m a mandated reporter. If someone says they felt uncomfortable, by law I have to report and it has to be investigated
3:24 LIZZO IS THE BOSS!!!!!!!!! If she is not happy with your performance DO BETTER!!!!!
I agree but Lizzo sounds like a lousy person. Who can rid a documentary because of a persons behavior and attitude? Sounds like more will come out on Lizzo.
@@omt4293remember when she blasted at the food delivery girl? She posted her picture and name…to her millions of followers 🤦♀️ I don’t think this is all lies.
I'm on lizzo side. If you're not performing at a high level for the thousands of people, we have to perform in front of to the point where I'm asking If you were drinking before you came to work then there's definitely a problem here
How about the canceled documentary? That says it all about Lizzo how she acts.
@@omt4293 The documentary wasn't cancelled though. It was released last year. The original director quit and was replaced.
@@judilicious my mistake. You’re right.
Was made for HBO Max. But the fact that an Oscar nominated filmmaker left this project because of Lizzo’s behavior says it all.
Because they weren't her besties? I'm confused...
I’ve been waiting to hear instances of, “quid pro quo.” I got nothing and here is the thing. I’m not a Lizzo fan! I’m more old school!
However, this sounds like the entire entertainment business and I feel like it isn’t going to go anywhere!
They thought they had to try to be the cool kid, so they went along to get along! Wrong move!!!
Always stand up for yourself! Stick with what you believe in!
Right like in another interview one of the other dancers that she was so scared to speak up so she peed or herself like girl that is your dumb fault
@@wanda01141 never ever! Love thy self to respect thy self!
Yeah because if they would have stood their ground and then got fired right after, then they would actually have a viable lawsuit
so their only argument is that she liked other people more than them…. like obviously she’s gonna favor the people who are willing to do more cause then you don’t have to make the choreography more strict to what they don’t want to do like they just talking about their feelings not facts or evidence about anything and also she never even called them fat it’s just the truth like the bigger your getting the harder it is to dance and dance for king periods of time there’s no way they think this did anything 😂
Sounds like your personalities weren’t a good fit with hers, and she’s the boss. I don’t know a human a live who doesn’t like easy going and flexible people, she can afford to go to these tropical places and wants to take her dancers she deems fun to be around. It’s important to think about your line you will not cross and be honest in the interview process trying to see if it’s a fit for you and The star. Really sounds like mis communication led to not being an actual good fit.
Lizzo will move more carefully going forward. She will come out even wiser,
“A looming feeling” that if you don’t do your job that you lose your job 😂
Now I see why Beyoncé is immensely guarded. Lizzo was probably way too much of a free spirit here and now she is being sued for it.
And no, you can not just gain weight as a dance and think it’s okay. I don’t care if Lizzo is big too. What is going on? People pay for your costumes. You may think your performance and energy is the same, but you may not have been given it like you think you were.
IKR
Yup. I did movie background work and this happened to me. The costume I had to wear got too snug a month later. The costume guy was furious, and yeah it’s not like there was anything I could do in that situation. The other costume person found me a better fitting costume, but I was then pushed far behind the camera.
Exactly I love that you brought this up. Because guarding herself is what gets bey accused of being arrogant. Meanwhile this lizzo situation is what happens when you’re too open or friendly with people
@@JCasR3why did you gain weight at that time?
@@mumumeme8496 Honestly, it just happened. Got lazy? Eating good lol? I didn’t plan on it. It was under 5lbs but genetically I’m endomorphic and my body does tend to store fat easier. I do a lot of cardio to stay fit.
It’s about DAMN time. Lizzo😂
Ya truth hurts, don't it Lizzo?? 😅
We truly don’t know these celebs. Yes, even Beyoncé! Never put any human being on a pedestal
You can hear anything and run with it. People have peas for brains.
Child it’s getting real messy out here in these celebrity streets 🤷🏽♀️😳😳😳😳
If it is true that would be pretty bad on Lizzo. They make her sound like a bad. But if you’re at a place and you’re working and they ask you to do something and you don’t wanna do it then why would you still be working there go somewhere else.
you must never work a day in your life to provide for anyone.
@@lalalala3968but if theyve worked theyve provided for themself thats someone. And they're right, you dont just stay there. So your just supposed to take all kinds of emotional and mental abuse willingly for a check? That sounds like someone who is going to need therapy ma'am😒. Are they paying you enough for that?? Ijs
Isn’t it true that dancers get fired for gaining weight?
Yes. Especially ballerinas.
Yes because costumes cost money. And if you get fitted for something you need to make sure you can fit in it at each and every show
I am an actress and today it is important to be a person that directors or people that you work forto consider you as a person that is fun to be around and as an actress...I always knew that people will want fun loving people with great energy around I dont want to victim blame I hope Lizzo gets what she deserved if she treated someone bad or bullied them but at the same time their arguments were based on how they felt about the situation not on facts or something that Lizzo said... also social networking and how you behave in a group setting is very important for a job like a dancer actress I had a lot of directors telling me they thought someone was talented but they didnt like their energy they spoke to much they were very cocky different reasons some of them really seem banal and hurt your feelings but you get used to it bcuz at the end of the day i would not want to work for someone that does not like me a process like tours theatre plays is very hard and you become a family so is really hard to tell who is to blame.. I hope dancers get a better treatment i heard horrible stories 😔 but i also love Lizzo ans I hope it ends well for both parts if it is possible at this point😢
Yeahhh, I am not sensing any wrongdoing. Honestly, in Germany no lawyer would take this case, because in a probationary period one can be fired for virtually anything. And Germans take labor law very seriously.
du kannst doch nicht ernsthaft glauben, dass die zwei hier in diesem interview schon alles ausgepackt haben...
@@mumumeme8496 natürlich haben sie nicht.
We all really need to hear Lizzo's side!. If some of the allegations are true then that's disappointing!.
No we don't. Believe all women right?
@stvnbryan5542 you've been waiting to say that for awhile I bet 😂
Legally its probably best if she doesn't say anything but as far as the public goes if she doesn't, its probably 50/50. This interview didn't say anything, its those 🍌 allegations thats the problem.
@@stvnbryan5542 as a woman, its more likely for a male to be guilty of SA situations statistically speaking but as we can see with the Carlee Russel situation, women lie and make up dumb stuff too sometimes but the story isnt adding up for me.
@@stvnbryan5542 To the cowards who instantly call these dancers "liars" with ZERO proof: so you just AUTOMATICALLY BELIEVE EVERYTHING SOMEBODY (Lizzo) TELLS YOU JUST BECAUSE THEY ARE RICH & FAMOUS PERSON WHO DOES NO REAL HARD or USEFUL WORK?
If money don’t exist they wouldn’t sue.
If money didn’t exist they wouldn’t be working for lezzo in the 1st place
This all just sounds like an unfair dismissal case vs all the other claims they are making. And it hardly sounds like it's unfair because the artist has a right to have a preference for people that are more like her. I don't want someone in my circle if we don't mesh or have nothing in common.
Sounds like Lizzo was looking for dancers with fun personalities. I’m pretty sure that’s not illegal. Dancers have to maintain an image. Her eating disorder is sad but not Lizzie’s problem.
I don't think it's illegal to hire dancers that are down to have fun after shows lol why did she mention that
Oh please . They were sent after her. This is a setup
No one deserves to be treated unfairly but at the same time bananas didn't get an of the this way
Sleeveless green shirt is beautiful. God bless y’all ladies
I’m sorry but what they failed to put in perspective was that both ladies were apart of Lizzo’s reality competition show in search for dancers for her tour. It was grueling, but Lizzo required excellence. It was a scene where the dancers had to perform an intense routine 5 times back to back to test stamina and they did it. The one on the left showcased acrobatic and professional training, and my question would be were you able to continue the same as when you auditioned. Lizzo might have thought of her dancers as friends and wanted them to fly with her and be around her, and if you was uncomfortable she’s your employer she doesn’t have to bring you everywhere with her. Also, if Lizzo was so bad why did the girl on the left apply/audition to tour again for Lizzo’s second season?
Exactly
Dancers do get fired for gaining weight. Hell, waitress in Vegas get fired for gaining weight and lost cases in the past when taken to court.
That's what called being in with the click ,if you are not in the click you are look over for advancement or they will try to get rid of you or make you quit by being hard on you about any things ,we call that picking on you ,that's when they are pushing you to guit so if you want to get ahead you have to be in the click
Harvey asking questions like the lawyer he is. Trying to see if they have a case.
Ohhh they have Neima as a lawyer that's great for them
I believe them - having said that I don't understand how Lizzo would criticise weight gain when she herself is obese
most narcissistic people will ignore their flaws and still criticize others !
I'm sure it's hard to keep up with all that extra weight...how are they dancers???..they've GOT to be consuming THOUSANDS of calories daily in order to be that over weight and dancing...
Pot calling the kettle black is CLASSIC! In all arenas: families, politics, bosses, everywhere!. She thinks her “fat” is exceptional…their’s is a “problem”…
I get what your saying but Lizzo didn't gain the weight at that time. I mean would we be saying this if she wasnt a bigger chick. This isn't a new thing, if she wanted her dancers a certain size she is entitled to that much. It's literally a rule for some of these dancers, why not hers? Nobody said show business was right but ppl do it. This stuff they said doesn't prove a case but the damage is done. And if she did that other stuff with the 🍌 , and they can prove that she deserves to be sued. That's nasty
That is more common than you might think😏
She losing the case when she said they wasn’t forced they basically willingly did everything
You got the proof show it in court
One girl just said management thought your behavior was unprofessional and unacceptable...and we supposed to believe them? Lol yea ok...we supposed to sue lizzo over "Unspoken rules?" Gtfoh!! 😂😂
Yeah if you aren’t cool with the talent then she may not want you around… that doesn’t sound illogical to me… 🤷🏻♂️🙄😒
Im i the only one that thinks them tmz interviewers look alike the must be brothers really look yall😂😂😂
Seems they felt this from the beginning why did they stay if it was toxic? Like a job you leave it.
no one is surprised by this
So, what exactly happened? Because all I'm hearing is that the people who spent the most time with Lizzo got the most work. This is normal in any work enviornment. Isolated people can't get promoted. Was there ANYTHING else?
It seems like Lizzo really thought her dancers were her friends and some of them were close enough to get perks and these women were not appart of that circle and then when they were invited to hang out with them and found out quickly that lizzo and these"friends"were on some super freaky stuff and that was not for them. I also understand that when u are a dancer some artist like for you to stay the same weight as when u auditiond and one of the dancers felt as though she could gain weight because of lizzos brand so she took advantantge gained some more weight thinking it would not be a problem was called out for it(but not teminated) and now they are sueing I call bs because they could have quit at anytime instead it seems like they stayed to bulid a case.
They are full of it.. They mad Lizzo fired them & they looking for a easy pay check.. 🤦🏿♂️🤦🏿♂️🤦🏿♂️
Proof ware not trying to be rude
keyword "in our minds"...."unspoken"
Preaching body positivity while allegedly bullying and shaming your employees is certainly........
Sounds like Lizzo wanted to have fun, and if you didn’t want to have fun, she didn’t want you around that much. What’s the big deal?
She asked one them to touch another performer so if ur boss tells you to touch another coworker ur just gonna be cool with it?? For a lot of people that would make them uncomfortable. That’s why she said the people that were favored were favored because they were doing the things she told them to do and they were down with whatever lizzo said. The other girls that have a brain and soul are exposing her for what she is. She abused her position of power and the adoration these girls had for her and abused them. She took advantage of them and made them feel uncomfortable and unsafe and that’s not okay. Lizzo even threatened to hit one of them and raised her fists at her. There’s so many things that just aren’t okay and I wish you guys would learn to believe women more. Yes some people lie but majority of us are telling the truth when we come out
@@nicoleclavel5836 allegedly. There is this thing called disgruntled employees. This stuff happens all the time. When you have millions of dollars, there are those people that will come after you for anything.
So y'all got fired for not meeting the criteria? Something seems fishy.
⚠⚠⚠🤔 UM! Arianna said Lizzo asked "What's wrong with you? What's going on with you? You seem different? You're not the same you used to be? This is NOT Body shamming! By all means, this is actually Lizzo genuine care, as a professional, as a friend to check in and see how you are? For Self-Care and awareness of her dancers!⚠⚠⚠
Secondly! Arianna, You are a grown person, you did not HAVE to do anything sexual, this was a GIRLS night out, not a CONTRACT performance!! You were a GROWN person to seek a LAWYER, to be on TV, to speak up to the WORLD, but you can not speak up to leave an environment of a STRIP CLUB - YOU walked in there! In Strip clubs people STRIP! Are you going in the colour in books?😴 You put your grown self in to audition for this group, grown self to leave your family to travel with this group, then be your grown self to LEAVE the strip club! LIZZO I PRAY YOU GET JUSTICE!🙏🙏🙏
Retaliation?? 🤣 like she a mob or something. The problem is with y’all is y’all allowed people to talk to you crazy all because you want the job/kinda fake spotlight . F the job! Your self respect comes first.
Their arguments wasn't very convincing, the lawsuit will go nowhere if it sticks to that
There is no concrete evidence, it is all hearsay. Plus in the end if you are unhappy with your job, you can always find a better employment.
Now we wait for lizzos side and then the real truth
The attorney should have coached them better. 😏
Sounds like she was just a shitty boss. So is that the norm now? If you have a shitty boss you sue them?
Ummm...not liking your boss or parts of your job is normal. Bosses not liking employees asking for more money or benefits is normal. Bosses hiring friends and having favorites is normal. Like nothing i heard is grounds for suing.
You should read the file and see what they were forced to do. Don’t speak if you don’t know the whole situation.
@@magnolia2 i SAID nothing i heard ... not READ. I did not see a link to read a file. I watched this video. So i commented on that.
But lizzo is bigger than this girl, so how can she even judge anyone on weight?
They sound a lil jaded … not that lizzo is a saint but I’m not buying their story ,…sound very high school ish
If they were fired or targeted for being "fat," this wouldn't be discrimination as "fat" isn't covered under the articles of discrimination.
Just Gen Zs getting to an age where they have enough savings to file lawsuits
It appear as if some people believe that you didn’t get enough shows as a result saw it fit to sue in order to reap the benefits that they did not get a chance to benefit from.