Hey there, nice video and well explained. could you (or someone who knows) tell me which addon you use for the healthplates? i like the look and espacially the way it shows the amount of holy power stacks upon :)
Maybe someone already mentioned it. Please correct me if i'm wrong, but it seems you would not want to crusade at the same time as judgement....but rather right before you TV. Granted this is splitting hairs on the level of 1 GCD..get that extra half second of 3 crusade stacks rather than the half second at 0 stacks until GCD comes up.
exactly the same method as my dps rotation. although some people uses wake of ashes first to start the fight. what do you think of that? will there any dps difference?
Big fan. Really appreciate the technical aspect of wow but haven't had the time to play at this level since BC really, so I enjoy your videos to live vicariously. I was wondering if you have posted your UI somewhere for download?
Not really, copying across someone else's UI profile almost always goes wrong unless we are using the same screen size settings. It's also much better to tailor the setup to your own tastes.
Fair enough! Also didn't you have a patreon? I swear I heard you mention it once but I don't see a link to it anywhere. Of all youtube creators your audience is one of few that's demonstrably comfortable with paying monthly for content.
Thete Gaming Thank god. That change reminded me of Hammer of Wrath from WOD. I didn't understand why they would take that out just to put it back in. As you said, crusade is borderline madness when combined with lust, but it's hella fun
Shouldn't you be popping crusade at Templar's Verdict instead of the judgement? I thought that popping crusade at TV would be better to get more uptime on max stack crusade. And is this sequence for burst viable to get quick stacks of crusade? CS>BoJ>CS+ Arcane Torrent > Crusade+JV> Wake of Ashes > JV Then back to using TV as finishers. thanks for the guides.
Hey thete, Iam a Belf Ret and usually start the fight with Arcane Torret-->Blade-->Jugment+Crusade-->Veredict and etc. Would you consider that optimal or should Arcane Torrent be saved to be used during crusade for an eventual double Veredict? Great vid as always keep it up.
Why are you not using Zeal if you have enough haste? Doesn't it bring more damage output. At least my sims tell me to use Zeal instead of TheFiresofJustice
Thete Gaming thanks for the reply, appreciate it. Another question is that your Blade of Justice choice. I see you are using Virtes Blade, I thought Blade of Wrath was a more consistent damage source. Some logs also shows it like that. what is your opinion on that have you tried BoW (my crit is %28)
Virtues blade is beginning to pull ahead at high gear, and having both zeal and virtues blade is awesome or big numbers, but having both is just most of the time too much holy power generation lost. vwe'll see if the new blade of wrath procs enough but we'll likely be using VB
Yes, though it will take some time for sims to accurately model them I think. FCM still remains top dog if you get one that's a decent item level, and Plaguehive and Ursoc's Paw seem to look better from EN.
Wow. What are ur stats %? Cause i have 31% crit and 23% haste with 24% mastery and my max dps is 550k in burst and 320 after that..and my ilvl is 883 :(
Maybe someone already mentioned it. Please correct me if i'm wrong, but it seems you would not want to crusade at the same time as judgement....but rather right before you TV. Granted this is splitting hairs on the level of 1 GCD..get that extra half second of 3 crusade stacks rather than the half second at 0 stacks until GCD comes up.
![Legion - Retribution Paladin - Full DPS Guide 7.3.2 [Basics]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/cHrCPUVpD7w/mqdefault.jpg)
![Legion - Retribution Paladin - Full DPS Guide 7.3.2 [Basics]](/img/tr.png)
thank you for making such amazing videos. I learn so much every time I watch a new vid.
Great vid. Can you give your tellmewhen rotation helper?
Hey there, nice video and well explained. could you (or someone who knows) tell me which addon you use for the healthplates? i like the look and espacially the way it shows the amount of holy power stacks upon :)
Clicked like at "you have to 'bear' in mind".... Thanks for the guide Thete
Do you have an addon pack with the addons you use ? Thanks.
Has anyone ever told you, you sound like James May talking about wow in this video?
Great video. Definitely answered some questions that I have had.
Maybe someone already mentioned it. Please correct me if i'm wrong, but it seems you would not want to crusade at the same time as judgement....but rather right before you TV. Granted this is splitting hairs on the level of 1 GCD..get that extra half second of 3 crusade stacks rather than the half second at 0 stacks until GCD comes up.
exactly the same method as my dps rotation. although some people uses wake of ashes first to start the fight. what do you think of that? will there any dps difference?
"i've lost control" haha. Lets see what Blizz does in next patch with work on secondary stats...
How is Ret DPS overall in 7.1 in raids? Can you keep up with other classes?
Big fan. Really appreciate the technical aspect of wow but haven't had the time to play at this level since BC really, so I enjoy your videos to live vicariously. I was wondering if you have posted your UI somewhere for download?
Not really, copying across someone else's UI profile almost always goes wrong unless we are using the same screen size settings. It's also much better to tailor the setup to your own tastes.
Fair enough! Also didn't you have a patreon? I swear I heard you mention it once but I don't see a link to it anywhere. Of all youtube creators your audience is one of few that's demonstrably comfortable with paying monthly for content.
Andrew Pedersen I do but don't push it. The address is shown on opening and closing title pages.
Whats your new guid, because I noticed your Human now
Is the rotation still the same as in 7.0.3?
Hello mate, it seems Divine Hammer is not affected by our haste anymore, so i guess it's not worth to take it now to mythics ?
At the moment, unless you make very big pulls, it is indeed not as good. Didn't realise they were doing that until I logged in today.
Are they still changing crusade to remove the buff to haste and add holy power generation on judgment?
No.
Thete Gaming Thank god. That change reminded me of Hammer of Wrath from WOD. I didn't understand why they would take that out just to put it back in. As you said, crusade is borderline madness when combined with lust, but it's hella fun
Shouldn't you be popping crusade at Templar's Verdict instead of the judgement? I thought that popping crusade at TV would be better to get more uptime on max stack crusade.
And is this sequence for burst viable to get quick stacks of crusade?
CS>BoJ>CS+ Arcane Torrent > Crusade+JV> Wake of Ashes > JV Then back to using TV as finishers.
thanks for the guides.
Crusade needs to be active before you spend.
so you can't pop crusade just before you're GCD is done just before you TV? I've been doing this for so long. Orz
+Charlie Pairojkul That is doing it just before.
Thank you for the fast reply. ^ ^
Hey thete, Iam a Belf Ret and usually start the fight with Arcane Torret-->Blade-->Jugment+Crusade-->Veredict and etc. Would you consider that optimal or should Arcane Torrent be saved to be used during crusade for an eventual double Veredict? Great vid as always keep it up.
As long as you don't waste it, you can use it wherever you feel comfortable.
Nicolas Dragicevic I'm doing the same as you, pretty good IMO, and 1min cd is pretty low
On Hekili, did you change anything? I would like to update as to what you have it if possible.
Yes, I changed clashes as well as the number and size of icons showing iirc.
Thete Gaming Anything to your rotation priority on it?
No, Hekili uses the APL from simcraft so it's mostly fine outside of silly amount of haste making a mess of things.
Thete Gaming Ah okay, so are the clashes a must thing to change, or is it all preference?
It needs playing about with as it takes account of latency and reactions, which are a personal thing.
Why are you not using Zeal if you have enough haste? Doesn't it bring more damage output. At least my sims tell me to use Zeal instead of TheFiresofJustice
Not all of the fight is a burst phase. Overall, the haste is not high enough to get more benefit from Zeal.
Thete Gaming thanks for the reply, appreciate it.
Another question is that your Blade of Justice choice. I see you are using Virtes Blade, I thought Blade of Wrath was a more consistent damage source. Some logs also shows it like that. what is your opinion on that have you tried BoW (my crit is %28)
I started with BoW until my crit rate exploded and now VB is the clear winner for me personally
May change tomorrow with the patch.
Virtues blade is beginning to pull ahead at high gear, and having both zeal and virtues blade is awesome or big numbers, but having both is just most of the time too much holy power generation lost. vwe'll see if the new blade of wrath procs enough but we'll likely be using VB
On cleave fights (Drags, Xavius, Cenarius) Zeal provides more DPS. At least for me.
hi !!and now with 7.1 ,some trinket got buffed,maybe last trinket ranking ll change?
Yes, though it will take some time for sims to accurately model them I think. FCM still remains top dog if you get one that's a decent item level, and Plaguehive and Ursoc's Paw seem to look better from EN.
how much crit you think is good for virtue blade to come on top?
It's down to a balance of stats because the other talents favour different ones. Only way to find out is sim your character.
Wow. What are ur stats %? Cause i have 31% crit and 23% haste with 24% mastery and my max dps is 550k in burst and 320 after that..and my ilvl is 883 :(
I don't remember what they were at the time I'm afraid; this video was done a couple of months ago.
good info!
Maybe someone already mentioned it. Please correct me if i'm wrong, but it seems you would not want to crusade at the same time as judgement....but rather right before you TV. Granted this is splitting hairs on the level of 1 GCD..get that extra half second of 3 crusade stacks rather than the half second at 0 stacks until GCD comes up.