Have you considered building and selling to the backpacking community? Ultralight backers may be a niche market you could hit on. Change out the sink strainer to perferrated sheet metal and a few other changes to increase your ROI. Not a get rich scheme but put a few hundred in your pocket but more importantly would be getting your name out there.
This is the best channel on UA-cam! I like your creativity and your wholesomeness ; the whole family can watch! I especially like the colonial reenactment, and Bushcraft camping tips . Instead of 60,000 subscribers ,you should have 6 million subscribers! take care God bless
@@WayPointSurvival for some reason your comment reminds me of something my dad said the other day. He was eating some soup and he said something along the line of he wondered if they had something like bouillon cubes way back. Than I mention to him there was something like a dehydrated meat broth that dates back to the 17th an 18th century called Portable Soup.
OK, so after watching this a few weeks ago I was able to find the parts and pieces in my shop to build one of these only with a full size Altoids, I also used this concept to build a large one out of a big tomato can. Works great.
I like this idea, however as I'm making jelly all the time, the wax works great for me! I just took my used wax and cleaned it! Thank you AGAIN for another great idea!
I've been able to bring a mix of compressed wet snow/near-frozen water to a boiler in ~5 min. with a small pop-can alcohol stove. On a snowshoeing trip in the mountains in ambient temps below freezing, with a brisk cross-breeze. The wind just seems to make them burn more intensely. These small stoves are really amazing! If I had to pick just one, it would definitely be an alcohol mini-stove.
Imagination can be a creative tool. I wanted a stove that would heat most of my Canteen cup. I used a Bushcraft FireDragon Multi-Fuel Cooker. I sealed the corners of the center tray with some J.B.Weld. Making sure there would not be any leaks. Then cut some 1/4 thick carbon felt just slightly higher then the tray & the same length ( 7 pieces ) and fit them in there lengthwise. They became the wicks for the alcohol. It provides a fire under the greater majority of my canteen cup.
Wow. Not often you see something truly unique in the survival/ bushcraft genre of videos. I love this. I'm totally gonna make this and subscribe. I'm big on light & compact survival and this is great. Your kit will easily fit an esbit fuel tablet as an option to double the burn time.
You are dialing in on this Altoids camp stove projects. Very creative and well thought out. I'm thinking you could use an unused wick of a tiki torch as a fire rope, too? Looking forward to more ♨️
Yes, anything that will absorb the alcohol and act as a wick. However, the advantage of the fiberglass rope is that it will not burn up. And, one length of rope in a kit can make several stoves.
Thank you very much for not just showing what you're using but for explaining what they are used for. Great for those of us not in the US - helps us to know where to look for them. 👍 Another great little project!!
I was expecting this to be another corrugated cardboard mini, but this was a great idea. Nice job thinking outside of the box. Good tip with the salt, as well.
I made a similar stove using a small glass jar that pimento come in. I stuffed the jar with toilet ppr that I had cut to the right height. Filled in with alcohol. The screw on lid has a gasket so it does not leak. It is small enough to fit in a coat pocket. I keep it in my bug-out backpack.
Thank you for watching. It sounds like a neat idea. I have had other people tell me they have had issues with a stove like that in a glass jar that cracked the glass eventually. The best glass to use for a project like that is Pyrex if you can find one with a proper lid, which could be a problem.
Not a bad idea. If you have not seen, take aook at the Trangia Stove made in Sweden. You can buy just the burner and foil screen. I have used mine for the last 45 years and has never failed, even an -60f.
Not sure if there's another option - but that would boil much quicker if you were a bit lower/closer to the flame. Or perhaps you could put something int the bottom and then set your little burner on top of that? The "sweet spot" above any flame burner is around 1 to 1.5 inches tops. If it is getting close to a boil at that far away from the flame, I'd say you'd get a solid rolling boil being a bit closer. I happen to have one of those little Altoid cans here... going to have to make one of those! :) - have to figure out something for the grill top. That is slick whatever you've got there. I've got tons of carbon felt for the wick inside. Thanks for the great idea! Have a great New Year!
@@WayPointSurvival thanks for taking the time to teach people about the outdoors, most have forgotten we are animals, and the forest is our real home. 👍🤗
I believe that the optimal effective distance between the top of the burner and the bottom of the cup should be one inch. I could be wrong but this is based on various studies. This means that the this is how to get the maximum heat. The stand should be adjusted accordingly or the tin raised to achieve the one inch point. You may want to experiment around. You may be able to bring eight ounces to a boil within six minutes. Your idea is a great and simple one. The rectangular shape of the tin may possibly alter the boil time. There are differences in boil time based on the type of alcohol as well and it's purity or proof. Never use a petroleum based fuel, vapors are extremely combustible. You probably know most of these things. Thank you again for a wonderful idea. I love creativity. I hope this note helps. I wonder if iñstead of glass rope what would happen with Maya dust and slivers of fatwood combined underneath the screen for to boil water or using the plain tin with fatwood. Fatwood burns hot and might be able to boil water especially using thick or thin slivers. What would happen if holes were drilled in the tin top and a side feed port cut out to continuosly feed fatwood in the fire ? Would that boil water ? Oh well, you got my mind going now and I will be dreaming about it in my sleep. I am likely to get answers and forget them when I awake. Again thank you for anòther great idea !
I am strongly considering using my empty 60 ml vape juice bottles for carrying my denatured alcohol. I vape and I go through about a bottle a week. So I have plenty to use for this purpose. Brand new, empty ones are inexpensive and would likely be better for the fact that cleaning these used ones may prove difficult. Anyway, just a thought. Thanks for the video and information!
I am still learning about alcohol stoves.... I have a Trangia ( an older model which is a bit bigger.... a bit too big to fit in the slot in my folding fire box..... but it can be managed ) But talking about alcohol stoves in cold temps..... I am just experiencing it right now how low the temperature can get to get a good spread .... I agree alcohol stoves are so convenient ... light weight and efficient... and with an actual wood burning stove ( same setup of my firebox ) ( but before I used a surplus military canteen holder to hold my trangia and to burn wood inside.... but over time it got all bend and soft and wouldn’t steadily hold the stove in place ) But now here in Germany it’s starting to get cold at night and the alcohol stove needs to work more and eat more fuel ... Still trying to figure out how low in temperature I can go till the trangia won’t be as efficiently
What's next? A solid fuel tablet mini Altoid tin burner? Of course I think for hat you could use one the way it is, This Altoid tin stove of yours made me ask fr a rotary tool set for Christmas so I could make one myself.
You really made this nearly commercial quality! My alcohol stoves are made of dollar store mesh strainers and fiberglass wool... Next version I'll probably copy you ;-D To get small bottles easily, ask someone who vapes for their leftover bottles... Some vape stores might sell empty ones too, especially those who make their own liquid.
All these videos remind me of items that feel distantly familiar to me.maybe I was a hobo in another life.in either case I love your videos.thanks for making them😊
Nice 👍. Another possible 'project' to get all else in the vicinity shaking their heads 😊. 'Cannot do regular cooking on it' .. one must never underestimate the humble little home-grown alcohol burner. I have cooked Full English Breakfasts on a folding Esbit Stove with an Alcohol Burner. Patience and being prepared to refill the Burner when necessary .. a set of Aluminium Military Mess Tins ('Dixies' .. SADF issue) used as a 'Bain Marie' to keep that already cooked nice and hot and you're A for Away 😊. No rush .. and it gives one time to 'mull' .. and mulling is good. Thank for sharing .. take care ..
I agree that you can cook on it with re-filling and experience. I just don't want folks to have unrealistic expectations the first time they start using one of these little burners to heat up their stuff. Thanks for watching!
I'm fascinated by this whole series of videos, but I'm not really clear about which is the safest, easiest, most cost effective, most efficient, lightest and so forth. Can you offer some tips on how to choose the best mini stove for your needs?
That's really difficult because I don't know your personal needs as well as what you're going to be cooking and how long you're going to be out. Different stoves fit different scenarios.
First off I have to give you credit about the salt. It’s been years since I’ve learned that, and you’re the first I’ve seen who mentioned it. You need about 10% water to dissolve the salt, and if the alcohol is too pure, it’s easier to dissolve it in the water first, then add it to the alcohol, then the sodium will give a nice yellow flame. I can’t see this as terribly useful without enough fuel to boil even one cup of water, but who says the fuel has to fit in the box? As for cold weather, I copied the preheater from Trangia, with an old stainless water bottle and a dremel. I can cook in very cold weather.
Thank you so much for adding the additional information to the comment section and I agree, that it isn't that big of a deal to carry some extra fuel. I just was trying to make something that was completely in the tin and yet would at least make your drink hot even if it didn't bring it to a boil.
I've seen several stove burners built around this design. They're all good and handy to a purpose or what my grand mother in her Yorkshire accent would have called "a thing of purpose" they are all a little different from the next but all about the same
I know it won't fit in the tin, but 5 Hour Energy bottles work great for alcohol. I can fit 3 of them inside my Stanley cook pot with my Evernew stove.
I recognize those matches from the MREs..... 😏 You didn't mention the actual stove frame; it looked premanufactured, but it doesn't look like it would be too hard to make the pieces out of cans, sheet metal, etc.
You could look into Arizona penny stoves as well. Plenty of videos out on them. It won't fit in anything that compact but they do work good and burn for about 20 minutes which is long enough to boil 2 cups of water. I've made several of the older designs of the penny stove with the can bottom cut completely out and no penny and used them a few times in my adventures in areas where there were fire restrictions and plenty of snitches around instead of my wood burning rocket stove. Which is kind of silly to make alcohol stoves legal in those areas VS a rocket stove. Alcohol stoves are easy to knock over, spill and start a fire VS a small rocket stove which will just go out if knocked over but whatever. The Arizona penny version is a better design though. I liked to use Everclear grain alcohol for fuel the 48 state version which is 200 proof. No soot, just a little on a piece of tissue and a spark from a fire steel will light it, mix a little with some water and you have a good antiseptic and you can mix it with some powdered grape drink and have a little hobo wine before bedtime.
Thank you for watching and for the ideas. I have never made a penny stove but I have made quite a few of the Pepsi can stoves over the years which are similar.
Dude that's genius. I personally don't use alcohol stoves but yeah.dont get me wrong I have a stoves but don't really use them.but yeah great idea on stove and burner. 👍🔥
Really cool, but I will stick to a 3oz cat food can with 12 hole punch holes. It doesn't require a stand and I can boil 32 oz of water in my kettle with about 2.5 oz of alcohol. I am always pleased when creators mention vital information in their videos. Not everyone knows about cold temperatures and lack of vaporized fuel. Thank you for producing this video.
Very creative. If you have the stuff laying around from other projects it could be free. Flip side, it would be really expensive if you don't. Love the idea.
Over time fiberglass will fuse until it can no longer work. A better substitute for the fiberglass wick would be to pack the tin with carbon felt. Carbon felt is used by plumbers. They put this black fabric behind the frozen pipe and using a torch melt the ice inside the pipe Without Scorching the wall behind. This black fabric is sometimes called welding blanket
Wish i knew this trick back when i was homeless. wouldve been nice to have a warm cup of broth or tea in the winter time. Also, back when i used to smoke cigarettes, i found out that a regular altoids tin can fit a whole pack of Marlboro 72's in them.
GREAT CONCEPT. HOW DID YOU CUT THE STRAINER? IS THE STRAINER MADE OF A METAL THAT DOEAT GIVE OFF TOXIC GAS LIKE GALVINIZED METALS? COULD ALSO USE TIGHTLY BUNDELED FIBERGLASS INSULATION INSTEADS OF FIRE ROPE. CAN USE ALCOHOL FROM "HEAT" FUEL LINE ANTIFREEZE.
The strainer is made from stainless steel. You should never use Heet as a fuel as it is very toxic and should not be used around food. It is meant to add to the gas in your car. Denatured alcohol is meant to be used in stoves.
I've been thinking where I could get bottles small enough to fit in a tin, but well-constructed enough to carry fuel. I think Sushi soy sauce bottles (fish shaped or similar) would work, as they are small and flat. They contain about 5ml of liquid. Alternatively scientic vials for centrifugal force could be used. They are tiny, 0.5 to 2ml. Also, nail varnish bottles could be used.
Man, this is the first video I've seen from you. I bring a can of starter fluid with me in my pack and spray it into a cloth, heavily, and use it in a homemade alcohol stove but this is pretty cool. Definitely subscribing. Great channel
I use a homemade supercat stove. In temperatures below freezing, I found that repurposing a plastic schnapps bottle, filling it with denatured alcohol, and putting it in a pocket inside of my insulation layer keeps it warm enough for use in cold temperatures. Aluminum is a better heat conductor than steel, so I like using cat food cans with (plumber's) carbon felt wicks and lots of paper-punched holes. The pot sits right on top of the can. See Hiram Cook's channel for lots of alcohol and wood stove demonstrations.
James I know you could come up with another idea, you are good at what you do. I’m definitely going to make this for sure , just like the Stanley cooks set you made , well I made that and i going to make this too. Thanks for the video , keep it coming. ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️
Really enjoying this video series on Altoids projects. Just wondering what are the best uses for.the alcohol that you would use for "cleaning"? I thought denatured alcohol was toxic? Thanks James!
@@TJStellmach I completely DISAGREE. Methanol is absorbed by the skin and putting it on a wound will greatly increase the chances of an adverse event. Don't take my word, lookup methanol MSDS and you will see. Be safe.
My friends dads grandpa used a whole toilet paper roll & alcohol inside of an old small sized coffee can for their deer stands.... I remember that they used a couple of metal plates that are for electrical purposes to regulate the flame output
I always wondered if you could put a regulator like the top of a bbq has. I bet that's how the metal plates are used 😀. I wonder why no one has made an alcohol stove like the old Coleman gas stoves.
Wool should work, it wicks well. Have thought about buying some clearance all wool yarn and try something like this in a round container. “Wool is classified as a flame-resistant fabric. The textile is flammable, but it has to reach at least 1,058 degrees Fahrenheit, to ignite. The material has high water and nitrogen contents in its cells which means if it did ever catch on fire, once removed from the source of the heat, it would self-extinguish the flame.”
James nice vid we made cat stove out soda cans we use firbor glass insulation in them ! Mmm I wonder if wicks would work ? But if want a rolling boil raise the stove up so the flame is about 1 1/2inch from the bottom of the cup. I carry a transga stove with me I use it when there a burn band or it has rain a lot! To cut down time I use my little wood stove(twig stove) a lot to went I can I used both stove in the winter on the A.T. the twig stove is my back up When I run out of gas on gas stove. Take care god bless brother keep these coming
Have you ever tried using hand sanitizer or other jelled alcohol in your stoves? They are much better in all aspects as far as I am concerned, with far less spillage and greater ease of putting it were you want it and much less chance of flare up. I like to add a little 90% alcohol to my scent free sanitizer and carry it in a pump bottle that the pump locks down on. Can't fit in an Altoids tin but it holds about 2 oz.
Do you know what they use to make the alcohol jellified? I use aloe vera and alcohol to make hand sanitizer. Only asking because I would want to make sure I wasn't burning anything toxic. I doubt aloe would be toxic but IDK if it burns well either, I've never tried.
@@Doobie603 Hi Scott! So, the easiest way is to buy some calcium acetate but you can also make it if you prefer from egg shells or a bottle of "Tums" antacid tablets, basically any kind of calcium carbonate. The calcium acetate needs to be dissolved in warm water first and then added to the alcohol. Just look up diy jelled alcohol on utube and you will find many recipes for the right amount of each part.
If you look at the fancy feast stove, you really don't need the mini Altoids tin for alcohol. Just pour the alcohol directly in the big one with no screen.
I like this project and am wondering if an alcohol free mouth wash bottle that you get from the hospital in the things that they give you for toiletries like tooth paste,razor,shave cream,ECT would do for holding the alcohol and using a larger altoids tin along the solid fuel stove stand you are using to heat things with what do you think
I wonder if you could soak the rope with alcohol or hand sanitizer and then wrap some tape or a ranger band around the mini tin, before you leave for your hike/trip, and start your cooking by igniting that and squirt or dribble the containers of alcohol into the tin as the original fuel burns out? That would, maybe, give a burn time that achieves a boil, without carrying an extra separate container of alcohol.
If you did soak it ahead of time, it might eventually leak through the tape over the hinges. And, you never want to add alcohol while the stove is burning, you will cause a huge flare up and/or get your hand burned also. Always add enough at the beginning or wait until the flame goes out and the stove cools down somewhat before adding more fuel. Thanks for watching and for your questions.
@@WayPointSurvival I meant refill after it burned out. Sorry if I didn't make that clear. I worried at first that you were making a mistake with the tape, since alcohol is a solvent and I thought it would release the tape while the burner was in use and cause a spill, but after you demonstrated it, I assumed that you determined that the alcohol didn't affect the tape's glue. If the glue would dissolve after some unknown exposure time to the fuel, I don't think I'd use your burner outside of the big Altoids tin. It could let go at any time and spill out the hinges, and as you point out, the flame is invisible.
The problem with HEET is that it produces quite toxic byproducts which are not safe to have around food. That's why I prefer denatured alcohol. Thanks for watching!
I'm loving these ideas. You never know when it could come in handy. Knowledge is definitely power. Now, I have a question. So I had this Moka pot for coffee, but the top part got damaged, so now I'm left with just the bottom. I thought of getting rid of it, but thought against it just in case I may have a future use for it. After watching these videos, I'm wondering could this be used in the same way, as an alcohol burner? Or similar? There's a piece that fits into the bottom reservoir that has holes in it, then underneath that, it funnels downward. The reservoir itself has a tiny air hole, which I think the purposes of was to release steam. If you're not familiar with the parts of a Moka pot, you can Google them to see what I'm talking about. I really feel like this could be used as a mini stove of sorts. What do think and how would you suggest making it work properly? Any information is *greatly* appreciated. Thank you 🙏
I would have to see the exact Moka pot that you're referring to in order to be able to figure it out. I think you could use it that way for sure, but each pot design would offer its own challenges and limitations. Thanks for watching and for your questions.
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Now, a mini Altoids ALCOHOL burner! Thanks for watching and please leave me a comment in the section below!
Have you considered putting together an Altoids or other homemade stove diy playlist? 🙂
That's a good idea. Thank you for watching.
@@WayPointSurvival you're welcome
Have you considered building and selling to the backpacking community? Ultralight backers may be a niche market you could hit on. Change out the sink strainer to perferrated sheet metal and a few other changes to increase your ROI. Not a get rich scheme but put a few hundred in your pocket but more importantly would be getting your name out there.
Definitely a possibility. Thank you for watching!
This is the best channel on UA-cam! I like your creativity and your wholesomeness ; the whole family can watch! I especially like the colonial reenactment, and Bushcraft camping tips . Instead of 60,000 subscribers ,you should have 6 million subscribers! take care God bless
Thank you so much and God bless you too!
Awesome ingenuity as always.
Thank you so much, brother!
At this rate, Altoids will be in business for a very long time
Interestingly enough, Altoids were invented in the late 18th century. So, they've already been around for quite a long time!
@@WayPointSurvival for some reason your comment reminds me of something my dad said the other day. He was eating some soup and he said something along the line of he wondered if they had something like bouillon cubes way back. Than I mention to him there was something like a dehydrated meat broth that dates back to the 17th an 18th century called Portable Soup.
OK, so after watching this a few weeks ago I was able to find the parts and pieces in my shop to build one of these only with a full size Altoids, I also used this concept to build a large one out of a big tomato can. Works great.
Excellent, thanks for watching!
Really appreciate the tip in there about you putting salt in with the alcohol to make flames more visible in daylight.
Thank you for watching.
I like this idea, however as I'm making jelly all the time, the wax works great for me! I just took my used wax and cleaned it! Thank you AGAIN for another great idea!
Great. Glad you liked it and found it useful!
What a great concept. I think that would be a great fire extender also for those times when the tinder and kindling is wet.
Yes, indeed. Thanks for watching.
I've been able to bring a mix of compressed wet snow/near-frozen water to a boiler in ~5 min. with a small pop-can alcohol stove. On a snowshoeing trip in the mountains in ambient temps below freezing, with a brisk cross-breeze. The wind just seems to make them burn more intensely. These small stoves are really amazing! If I had to pick just one, it would definitely be an alcohol mini-stove.
Excellent. Just remember, that alcohol stoves sometimes have a difficulty getting up to heat and very cold temperatures.
Good one, James. I like this stove better, even though it doesn’t burn as long as the wax version.
Great, glad you liked it! Thank you for watching.
I'll have to try making this. The one thing with the stove which might help is raising it to that magic distance from the bottom of the pan.
Thank you for watching.
Imagination can be a creative tool. I wanted a stove that would heat most of my Canteen cup. I used a Bushcraft FireDragon Multi-Fuel Cooker. I sealed the corners of the center tray with some J.B.Weld. Making sure there would not be any leaks. Then cut some 1/4 thick carbon felt just slightly higher then the tray & the same length ( 7 pieces ) and fit them in there lengthwise. They became the wicks for the alcohol. It provides a fire under the greater majority of my canteen cup.
Excellent idea. Thank you for watching!
Thanks for the salt in the alcohol tip👍👍
You're welcome. Thank you for watching.
Wow. Not often you see something truly unique in the survival/ bushcraft genre of videos. I love this. I'm totally gonna make this and subscribe. I'm big on light & compact survival and this is great. Your kit will easily fit an esbit fuel tablet as an option to double the burn time.
Thank you so much, I'm glad that you're enjoying the channel and welcome aboard!
You are dialing in on this Altoids camp stove projects. Very creative and well thought out. I'm thinking you could use an unused wick of a tiki torch as a fire rope, too? Looking forward to more ♨️
Yes, anything that will absorb the alcohol and act as a wick. However, the advantage of the fiberglass rope is that it will not burn up. And, one length of rope in a kit can make several stoves.
Good looking out on the tiki wick. They are 100% fiberglass (Well, the Tiki brand).
Soldering drop cloth, made from carbon felt, makes a great wicking material instead of the fiberglass rope, if you can't find the latter.
Great idea. Thanks for watching and sharing.
Thank you very much for not just showing what you're using but for explaining what they are used for. Great for those of us not in the US - helps us to know where to look for them. 👍
Another great little project!!
Thank you so much!
I was expecting this to be another corrugated cardboard mini, but this was a great idea. Nice job thinking outside of the box. Good tip with the salt, as well.
Thank you and glad you liked it!
I made a similar stove using a small glass jar that pimento come in. I stuffed the jar with toilet ppr that I had cut to the right height. Filled in with alcohol. The screw on lid has a gasket so it does not leak. It is small enough to fit in a coat pocket. I keep it in my bug-out backpack.
Thank you for watching. It sounds like a neat idea. I have had other people tell me they have had issues with a stove like that in a glass jar that cracked the glass eventually. The best glass to use for a project like that is Pyrex if you can find one with a proper lid, which could be a problem.
Not a bad idea. If you have not seen, take aook at the Trangia Stove made in Sweden. You can buy just the burner and foil screen. I have used mine for the last 45 years and has never failed, even an -60f.
Yes, trangia makes some excellent stoves. Thanks for watching.
Not sure if there's another option - but that would boil much quicker if you were a bit lower/closer to the flame. Or perhaps you could put something int the bottom and then set your little burner on top of that? The "sweet spot" above any flame burner is around 1 to 1.5 inches tops. If it is getting close to a boil at that far away from the flame, I'd say you'd get a solid rolling boil being a bit closer.
I happen to have one of those little Altoid cans here... going to have to make one of those! :) - have to figure out something for the grill top. That is slick whatever you've got there. I've got tons of carbon felt for the wick inside. Thanks for the great idea! Have a great New Year!
Excellent. Thank you for the information and for watching the video!
A candle simmer cup with the slide lid works well too and you can adjust the flame with the lid.
Thank you for watching.
@@WayPointSurvival thanks for taking the time to teach people about the outdoors, most have forgotten we are animals, and the forest is our real home. 👍🤗
I believe that the optimal effective distance between the top of the burner and the bottom of the cup should be one inch. I could be wrong but this is based on various studies. This means that the this is how to get the maximum heat. The stand should be adjusted accordingly or the tin raised to achieve the one inch point. You may want to experiment around. You may be able to bring eight ounces to a boil within six minutes. Your idea is a great and simple one. The rectangular shape of the tin may possibly alter the boil time. There are differences in boil time based on the type of alcohol as well and it's purity or proof. Never use a petroleum based fuel, vapors are extremely combustible. You probably know most of these things. Thank you again for a wonderful idea. I love creativity. I hope this note helps. I wonder if iñstead of glass rope what would happen with Maya dust and slivers of fatwood combined underneath the screen for to boil water or using the plain tin with fatwood. Fatwood burns hot and might be able to boil water especially using thick or thin slivers. What would happen if holes were drilled in the tin top and a side feed port cut out to continuosly feed fatwood in the fire ? Would that boil water ? Oh well, you got my mind going now and I will be dreaming about it in my sleep. I am likely to get answers and forget them when I awake. Again thank you for anòther great idea !
Thank you for watching and for the ideas!
I am strongly considering using my empty 60 ml vape juice bottles for carrying my denatured alcohol. I vape and I go through about a bottle a week. So I have plenty to use for this purpose. Brand new, empty ones are inexpensive and would likely be better for the fact that cleaning these used ones may prove difficult. Anyway, just a thought. Thanks for the video and information!
Excellent point thank you for the information. Also, thanks for watching!
I am still learning about alcohol stoves.... I have a Trangia ( an older model which is a bit bigger.... a bit too big to fit in the slot in my folding fire box..... but it can be managed )
But talking about alcohol stoves in cold temps..... I am just experiencing it right now how low the temperature can get to get a good spread ....
I agree alcohol stoves are so convenient ... light weight and efficient... and with an actual wood burning stove ( same setup of my firebox ) ( but before I used a surplus military canteen holder to hold my trangia and to burn wood inside.... but over time it got all bend and soft and wouldn’t steadily hold the stove in place )
But now here in Germany it’s starting to get cold at night and the alcohol stove needs to work more and eat more fuel ...
Still trying to figure out how low in temperature I can go till the trangia won’t be as efficiently
Thank you so much for watching the video and glad you liked it.
Spectacular job Brother thank you for sharing I can't wait to make it
Great, glad you liked it!
Hi from Syracuse NY brother and thank you for sharing your thoughts and adventures
Thank you, earl.
What's next? A solid fuel tablet mini Altoid tin burner? Of course I think for hat you could use one the way it is, This Altoid tin stove of yours made me ask fr a rotary tool set for Christmas so I could make one myself.
Great. Thank you for watching!
Yet another excellent video! Thank you for sharing this instructional presentation!
Thank you so much!
You really made this nearly commercial quality! My alcohol stoves are made of dollar store mesh strainers and fiberglass wool... Next version I'll probably copy you ;-D
To get small bottles easily, ask someone who vapes for their leftover bottles... Some vape stores might sell empty ones too, especially those who make their own liquid.
Thank you. That's a good idea about the vape containers.
All these videos remind me of items that feel distantly familiar to me.maybe I was a hobo in another life.in either case I love your videos.thanks for making them😊
Thanks so much for watching!
Great job James. I knew you had more ideas in ya for the tin.
Thank you, my friend!
They fit anywhere I think it's simple
Thank you for watching!
Nice 👍. Another possible 'project' to get all else in the vicinity shaking their heads 😊.
'Cannot do regular cooking on it' .. one must never underestimate the humble little home-grown alcohol burner. I have cooked Full English Breakfasts on a folding Esbit Stove with an Alcohol Burner. Patience and being prepared to refill the Burner when necessary .. a set of Aluminium Military Mess Tins ('Dixies' .. SADF issue) used as a 'Bain Marie' to keep that already cooked nice and hot and you're A for Away 😊. No rush .. and it gives one time to 'mull' .. and mulling is good.
Thank for sharing .. take care ..
I agree that you can cook on it with re-filling and experience. I just don't want folks to have unrealistic expectations the first time they start using one of these little burners to heat up their stuff. Thanks for watching!
I'm fascinated by this whole series of videos, but I'm not really clear about which is the safest, easiest, most cost effective, most efficient, lightest and so forth. Can you offer some tips on how to choose the best mini stove for your needs?
That's really difficult because I don't know your personal needs as well as what you're going to be cooking and how long you're going to be out. Different stoves fit different scenarios.
Your projects are amazing!
Thanks for the time you take in presenting these ideas.
Glad you like them!
First off I have to give you credit about the salt. It’s been years since I’ve learned that, and you’re the first I’ve seen who mentioned it. You need about 10% water to dissolve the salt, and if the alcohol is too pure, it’s easier to dissolve it in the water first, then add it to the alcohol, then the sodium will give a nice yellow flame.
I can’t see this as terribly useful without enough fuel to boil even one cup of water, but who says the fuel has to fit in the box? As for cold weather, I copied the preheater from Trangia, with an old stainless water bottle and a dremel. I can cook in very cold weather.
Thank you so much for adding the additional information to the comment section and I agree, that it isn't that big of a deal to carry some extra fuel. I just was trying to make something that was completely in the tin and yet would at least make your drink hot even if it didn't bring it to a boil.
I've seen several stove burners built around this design. They're all good and handy to a purpose or what my grand mother in her Yorkshire accent would have called "a thing of purpose" they are all a little different from the next but all about the same
Thank you for watching!
Ingenious design James!
Thank you so much!
I know it won't fit in the tin, but 5 Hour Energy bottles work great for alcohol. I can fit 3 of them inside my Stanley cook pot with my Evernew stove.
Those are really great bottles!
Good extra small portable kit
Need to cook more/longer
Pull out the green cup monster hack
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Yes, indeed. Thanks for watching.
I recognize those matches from the MREs..... 😏
You didn't mention the actual stove frame;
it looked premanufactured, but it doesn't look like it would be too hard to make the pieces out of cans, sheet metal, etc.
Actually, I made the stove in a previous video. However, yes it is quite easy to make on your own.
I was searching for info on the stove frame too. Maybe put a link to the video referred to?
You’re one of the most interesting and innovative survivalist/bushcrafter around, tbh.
Thank you so much!
I didn't know about the table salt idea. Thanks for the tip.
Thanks for watching and I'm glad that you liked it!
Great add on
Thank you!
I love the idea. I'm going to make it. I was thinking of a mod to it. Using the trivet made with a hanger that fits inside.
That's a good idea! Thanks for watching.
Another project for me. You are going to keep me busy this winter. 😊
Great. Thanks for watching.
interesting concept on the stove itself. i wonder about making it out of a full size altoid tin and using chicken wire or similar to cover the rope.
You could definitely scale this up to the large size tin. Just be careful about chicken wire as galvanization has to burn off before it's safe to use.
You could look into Arizona penny stoves as well. Plenty of videos out on them. It won't fit in anything that compact but they do work good and burn for about 20 minutes which is long enough to boil 2 cups of water. I've made several of the older designs of the penny stove with the can bottom cut completely out and no penny and used them a few times in my adventures in areas where there were fire restrictions and plenty of snitches around instead of my wood burning rocket stove. Which is kind of silly to make alcohol stoves legal in those areas VS a rocket stove. Alcohol stoves are easy to knock over, spill and start a fire VS a small rocket stove which will just go out if knocked over but whatever. The Arizona penny version is a better design though. I liked to use Everclear grain alcohol for fuel the 48 state version which is 200 proof. No soot, just a little on a piece of tissue and a spark from a fire steel will light it, mix a little with some water and you have a good antiseptic and you can mix it with some powdered grape drink and have a little hobo wine before bedtime.
Thank you for watching and for the ideas. I have never made a penny stove but I have made quite a few of the Pepsi can stoves over the years which are similar.
Love this series your doing on the Altoids tin. It's my kinda style.
Thank you so much!
Thanks for all these cool projects. This would be perfect for a day hike,
Thank you for watching.
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Back again with another epic diy. Nice job brother
Thank you so much, my friend!
Dude that's genius. I personally don't use alcohol stoves but yeah.dont get me wrong I have a stoves but don't really use them.but yeah great idea on stove and burner. 👍🔥
Thank you so much!
Carbon felt/carbon fiber also makes a great wick. :)
This would be good for a short hiking trip. Thanks. ⛺
Indeed. Thanks for watching.
Really cool, but I will stick to a 3oz cat food can with 12 hole punch holes. It doesn't require a stand and I can boil 32 oz of water in my kettle with about 2.5 oz of alcohol. I am always pleased when creators mention vital information in their videos. Not everyone knows about cold temperatures and lack of vaporized fuel. Thank you for producing this video.
Thank you for watching,!
I bet it puts off enough heat to get rid of the chill for a few minutes inside a small camper. Put a piece of metal over it to catch the heat.
Indeed. Make sure there is adequate ventilation.
Love this. Also, great tip on the table salt. May save some people's skin! Thank you!
Thank you for watching.
Very creative. If you have the stuff laying around from other projects it could be free. Flip side, it would be really expensive if you don't. Love the idea.
Thanks so much for watching!
Over time fiberglass will fuse until it can no longer work. A better substitute for the fiberglass wick would be to pack the tin with carbon felt.
Carbon felt is used by plumbers. They put this black fabric behind the frozen pipe and using a torch melt the ice inside the pipe Without Scorching the wall behind.
This black fabric is sometimes called welding blanket
Thank you for watching and for putting the information in the comments.
Awesome, as always! Thanks for sharing this idea!
Thank you so much!
That's a cool little burner. Keep up with the creativity.
Thank you, my friend!
The table salt tip is great! #TheMoreYouKnow!
Great find on the ss screen.
Thank you, glad you liked it!
Hi James! I really like how you are exploring the space with this system.
Thank you so much!
I found Heat in the yellow bottle burns longer and cleaner.
Heet is also highly toxic and should never be used around food nor should you ever get it on your skin.
If you adjust the number of holes in the strainer you will jet a 'jet boil' from the fuel to provide a longer and hotter flame. jes sayin...
Thank you for watching.
Wish i knew this trick back when i was homeless. wouldve been nice to have a warm cup of broth or tea in the winter time. Also, back when i used to smoke cigarettes, i found out that a regular altoids tin can fit a whole pack of Marlboro 72's in them.
Thank you for watching.
Excellent! Thankee!
And I thank you for watching!
The only thing missing now is a small leather pouch for the can. 😀
Yes, or something else...
How about one of them soft eyeglasses pouches they give you when you get glasses?
GREAT CONCEPT. HOW DID YOU CUT THE STRAINER? IS THE STRAINER MADE OF A METAL THAT DOEAT GIVE OFF TOXIC GAS LIKE GALVINIZED METALS? COULD ALSO USE TIGHTLY BUNDELED FIBERGLASS INSULATION INSTEADS OF FIRE ROPE. CAN USE ALCOHOL FROM "HEAT" FUEL LINE ANTIFREEZE.
The strainer is made from stainless steel. You should never use Heet as a fuel as it is very toxic and should not be used around food. It is meant to add to the gas in your car. Denatured alcohol is meant to be used in stoves.
@@WayPointSurvival "Heat" is predominately methanol, and methanol is what is added to ethanol to make it denatured alcohol.
Thanks for showing us James. Nice little stove. Take care.
Thank you so much, my friend!
I've been thinking where I could get bottles small enough to fit in a tin, but well-constructed enough to carry fuel. I think Sushi soy sauce bottles (fish shaped or similar) would work, as they are small and flat. They contain about 5ml of liquid. Alternatively scientic vials for centrifugal force could be used. They are tiny, 0.5 to 2ml. Also, nail varnish bottles could be used.
Excellent suggestions. Thanks for watching.
Finally some video where the purpose is not to defend alcohol stoves and compete with gas stoves... good job
Thank you!
that's awesome. you must really like Altoids!
I do consume quite a few of them. Part of the reason is because I really like the tins.
Man, this is the first video I've seen from you. I bring a can of starter fluid with me in my pack and spray it into a cloth, heavily, and use it in a homemade alcohol stove but this is pretty cool. Definitely subscribing. Great channel
Thank you so much for watching, thanks for the sub and welcome aboard!
I use a homemade supercat stove. In temperatures below freezing, I found that repurposing a plastic schnapps bottle, filling it with denatured alcohol, and putting it in a pocket inside of my insulation layer keeps it warm enough for use in cold temperatures. Aluminum is a better heat conductor than steel, so I like using cat food cans with (plumber's) carbon felt wicks and lots of paper-punched holes. The pot sits right on top of the can. See Hiram Cook's channel for lots of alcohol and wood stove demonstrations.
Excellent. Thanks for watching!
James I know you could come up with another idea, you are good at what you do. I’m definitely going to make this for sure , just like the Stanley cooks set you made , well I made that and i going to make this too. Thanks for the video , keep it coming. ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️
Very good, thanks for watching!
James, you should wack some kind of lid on that little saucepan. It'll boil faster and easier.
Yes, that is true. However, I like to leave it off so that I can show the boiling on camera better.
Really enjoying this video series on Altoids projects. Just wondering what are the best uses for.the alcohol that you would use for "cleaning"? I thought denatured alcohol was toxic? Thanks James!
Here's a link that might help: worldwidejanitor.com/library/the-incredible-uses-of-denatured-alcohol/
@@WayPointSurvival Thank you James for the additional information in the link you provided.
Various kinds of alcohol are toxic to drink, but you won't get a toxic dose just by touching them or putting them on a wound.
@@TJStellmach I completely DISAGREE. Methanol is absorbed by the skin and putting it on a wound will greatly increase the chances of an adverse event. Don't take my word, lookup methanol MSDS and you will see. Be safe.
My friends dads grandpa used a whole toilet paper roll & alcohol inside of an old small sized coffee can for their deer stands.... I remember that they used a couple of metal plates that are for electrical purposes to regulate the flame output
Yes, those are indeed excellent heaters when done correctly. Thanks for watching!
I always wondered if you could put a regulator like the top of a bbq has. I bet that's how the metal plates are used 😀. I wonder why no one has made an alcohol stove like the old Coleman gas stoves.
Wool should work, it wicks well.
Have thought about buying some clearance all wool yarn and try something like this in a round container.
“Wool is classified as a flame-resistant fabric. The textile is flammable, but it has to reach at least 1,058 degrees Fahrenheit, to ignite. The material has high water and nitrogen contents in its cells which means if it did ever catch on fire, once removed from the source of the heat, it would self-extinguish the flame.”
Sounds like it might work. Thanks for watching!
You need to get a rolling boil to make raw water safe ...just a reminder.
Very true. Thanks for watching.
This is genius, thank you for another excellent video.
Thank you so much!
❤ super duper awesome man thank you for your design and sharing❤ everybody knows hobo means helping other brothers out❤
My pleasure!
James nice vid we made cat stove out soda cans we use firbor glass insulation in them ! Mmm I wonder if wicks would work ? But if want a rolling boil raise the stove up so the flame is about 1 1/2inch from the bottom of the cup. I carry a transga stove with me I use it when there a burn band or it has rain a lot! To cut down time I use my little wood stove(twig stove) a lot to went I can I used both stove in the winter on the A.T. the twig stove is my back up
When I run out of gas on gas stove. Take care god bless brother keep these coming
Thanks for sharing your experience and for watching the video.
I decided you are the project king 😊
Thanks so much!
Cool. Interesting tool.
Very good instructions , great looking stove , thanks for sharing , God bless !
Thanks for watching, God bless you too.
Thats awesome Thanks James
Glad you liked it!
How would a snuff can work? It also has a seal that might help on alcohol storage. It too would fit in the original altoids box....
That might work well. Thank you for watching.
That's super awesome❤ and thank you very much man❤
I'm glad you like it!
Have you ever tried using hand sanitizer or other jelled alcohol in your stoves? They are much better in all aspects as far as I am concerned, with far less spillage and greater ease of putting it were you want it and much less chance of flare up. I like to add a little 90% alcohol to my scent free sanitizer and carry it in a pump bottle that the pump locks down on. Can't fit in an Altoids tin but it holds about 2 oz.
Sounds good. Thank you for watching.
Do you know what they use to make the alcohol jellified? I use aloe vera and alcohol to make hand sanitizer. Only asking because I would want to make sure I wasn't burning anything toxic. I doubt aloe would be toxic but IDK if it burns well either, I've never tried.
@@Doobie603 Hi Scott! So, the easiest way is to buy some calcium acetate but you can also make it if you prefer from egg shells or a bottle of "Tums" antacid tablets, basically any kind of calcium carbonate. The calcium acetate needs to be dissolved in warm water first and then added to the alcohol. Just look up diy jelled alcohol on utube and you will find many recipes for the right amount of each part.
@@idontremember2995 Hey cool, that's something even I can do. Thanks for the response that is useful info!
If you look at the fancy feast stove, you really don't need the mini Altoids tin for alcohol. Just pour the alcohol directly in the big one with no screen.
Thank you for watching.
I like this project and am wondering if an alcohol free mouth wash bottle that you get from the hospital in the things that they give you for toiletries like tooth paste,razor,shave cream,ECT would do for holding the alcohol and using a larger altoids tin along the solid fuel stove stand you are using to heat things with what do you think
I think it might work!
I wonder if you could soak the rope with alcohol or hand sanitizer and then wrap some tape or a ranger band around the mini tin, before you leave for your hike/trip, and start your cooking by igniting that and squirt or dribble the containers of alcohol into the tin as the original fuel burns out? That would, maybe, give a burn time that achieves a boil, without carrying an extra separate container of alcohol.
If you did soak it ahead of time, it might eventually leak through the tape over the hinges. And, you never want to add alcohol while the stove is burning, you will cause a huge flare up and/or get your hand burned also. Always add enough at the beginning or wait until the flame goes out and the stove cools down somewhat before adding more fuel. Thanks for watching and for your questions.
@@WayPointSurvival I meant refill after it burned out. Sorry if I didn't make that clear. I worried at first that you were making a mistake with the tape, since alcohol is a solvent and I thought it would release the tape while the burner was in use and cause a spill, but after you demonstrated it, I assumed that you determined that the alcohol didn't affect the tape's glue. If the glue would dissolve after some unknown exposure time to the fuel, I don't think I'd use your burner outside of the big Altoids tin. It could let go at any time and spill out the hinges, and as you point out, the flame is invisible.
Cool idea! I'l have to give that a try
Excellent. Thanks for watching!
good mini stove ... get a bottle of HEET fuelline de-icer comes in a handy jug...
The problem with HEET is that it produces quite toxic byproducts which are not safe to have around food. That's why I prefer denatured alcohol. Thanks for watching!
I'm loving these ideas. You never know when it could come in handy. Knowledge is definitely power.
Now, I have a question. So I had this Moka pot for coffee, but the top part got damaged, so now I'm left with just the bottom. I thought of getting rid of it, but thought against it just in case I may have a future use for it. After watching these videos, I'm wondering could this be used in the same way, as an alcohol burner? Or similar? There's a piece that fits into the bottom reservoir that has holes in it, then underneath that, it funnels downward.
The reservoir itself has a tiny air hole, which I think the purposes of was to release steam.
If you're not familiar with the parts of a Moka pot, you can Google them to see what I'm talking about.
I really feel like this could be used as a mini stove of sorts.
What do think and how would you suggest making it work properly?
Any information is *greatly* appreciated. Thank you 🙏
I would have to see the exact Moka pot that you're referring to in order to be able to figure it out. I think you could use it that way for sure, but each pot design would offer its own challenges and limitations. Thanks for watching and for your questions.
YUUUUUMY! nothing better then meat cooked over denatured toxic fumes! yummmmm! i think red green made one from a car exaust....
Actually, denatured alcohol is THE fuel recommended for alcohol stoves. It is even used in the confined spaces of a boat or ships galley.