"Get out and explore" is what those bags say to me. I have similar set up yet have yet to do an overnighter. Instead, I am gone all day, usually avoiding others and sometimes take my stove and make coffee. It usually below freezing here in SLC so it can get pretty exciting.
I really love the Brooks materrial. I bought myself recently a 10 liters Glenbrook saddlebag, a C17 cambium special copper saddle and cambium copper grips. I have not been able to try them out though, just for the simple reason that I do not own a bike at the moment. But no worries, the bike is more or less the next thing on my list and hopefully by the time spring arrives I will be able to make my first ride since... 1976. :-)
What you need is a friendly RAF Safety Equipment Fitter (known a Squippers), the guys who make all the pilots immersion suits and dingies etc. A friend of mine at RAF Valley made me 100% waterproof, lightweight frame-bag, bar roll and rear pannier bags for a crate of beer and a months supply of chocolate hobnobs! It's not what you know ...
Thanks for the look at the Brooks bags. I like the holster for the handlebar bag and the seat bag. Looks like it makes things super easy. I also like the valve to let the air out. Seems like nice touches. I'm looking forward to getting out to go bike packing when it's possible.
I'm intrigued by the top tube bag. My favorite bar bag is an OrNot and they are hard to come by. I might default to a top tube bag if I can't snag an OrNot the next time they produce some. Perfect for storing snacks!
That’s what I love about gravel riding! I keep exploring places and routes that I’d never see on my road bike! Keep your videos coming! I find them very inspiring. 🇨🇦🇨🇦🇨🇦🇨🇦🇨🇦🇨🇦🇨🇦🇨🇦🇨🇦🇨🇦🇨🇦🇨🇦🇨🇦
cool review ... together with the one from Wiggle I have a good understanding of the range - love the colour finish and quality ... and it would match my Cafe Du Cycliste Handlebar Bag I already own .. thanks :-)
Brookes must be one of the oldest Bike bit firms in the UK now. ! The old Brooks Pro copper rivet and B 17 saddles were and prob ,still are the best bits of leather money can buy ! At least you do not have to strap and old Yellow rain cape on top of the rear saddle bag any more thankfully lol..
Small frames often have saddlepack issues with the bag touching the tyre or, in your case, the holster, and it's not a problem specific to Brooks. In my experience contact of this kind will quickly make a hole unless the holster or bag are made of some seriously tough material. I get round this problem on my small-framed fat bike by using a PDW Bindle rack attached to the seat post, with straps to attach it under the saddle. No sway, it can't move if you accidentally kick it getting on the bike, you can use any size drybag you want and no tyre rub. Those Brooks bags sure don't come cheap but I have to say they look pretty classy.
Loving the bike, got one myself, but will let others be the guineapigs for these bags. Would probably go for brands that have been well tried and tested in the bikepacking world. Waterproofing would be a top priority for me. Not sure about the styling either, in that they don’t stand out from the crowd or look anything special. Nice video Juliet! Really helpful.
For anyone interested, I’ve received the Scape frame bag and am almost totally satisfied. It’s very well made, looks and feels good quality, solid and durable. Not tested but does look like it will keep water out. Juliet has I think the small frame of this bike. I have the XL frame so the top tube is much longer. The bag fits well to the front of the frame and has 7 loops and 6 Velcro straps. Two at the top front are right next to each other, so you only need to use one in this area. The Velcro length from the front loop only just gets around the head tube, but secures ok here. But the Velcro is way too short for the loop at the back to connect to the seat tube. With five other attachment points this will probably be ok, but if I need to use that loop I will have to add a DIY extension to the supplied Velcro. Surprised Brooks didn’t supply one longer Velcro strap to suit larger frames. No regrets on purchasing this bag though.
Morning - ish! Enjoyed that, thanks. Setup seems similar to Restrap.. Have you heard of Alistair Humphreys? He’s doing something about thoroughly exploring places within one OS map where you live, and whether that’s enough.. I’m guessing the answer near Dartmoor is that there’s plenty to explore in the local area, but worth checking out if you haven’t already. Stay safe!
Katie's looking for saddles. I suggested she speaks to you about the Cambium but I think she's sticking with her Bontragers. Your white one looks very cool.
Thanks for the nice video and Before the saddlebag wobbles like a lambs tail, i use the woho saddlebag stabilizer. This is a real gamechanger for a nice price ;-)
The zips are good BUT at best they are showerproof... especially once they get a bit worn or dirty. They are way better than non-sealed zips and storm flaps.
Would love to see more of your Gravel Bike routes please Juliet, lockdown prevented us from Camping near Dartmoor last year so hopefully try again this year, not to ‘Narly’ please otherwise my Wife will be doing a lot of ‘Bike Hiking’ 🤔
I got mine in Dec and very happy with it. I’m running it with tubes and Tannus Armour, which is something new for me. The only other thing I’ve added is Mudhuggers front and rear and a nice small Singnature bar bag from Arkel.
Thats a large front bag, wouldn't it need a front carrier and a decalouer to stop it swinging around on the handlebars and affecting handling. Thanks for the video.
@@JulietElliottsChannel sorry I should of explained. We are not planning a fixed route as such, we will start in southern Croatia and cycle Southern Europe coast line up to Normandy. We do not want to plan fixed routes but we will have different locations we need to get to each day.
Try the restrap small or medium size. On my wife's specialized diverge 2020 48cm i fitted the medium version as tight as it could be..ans she can still use one 750ml bottle there. Restrap has measurements on their websites... Or even better, @ apidura you can print them in 1:1 scale and try it on your frame...
@@Max-dj5qj thanks heaps. From apidura only the racing frame pack 2.4L fits but its not optimal. However it seems that restrap does custom at a reasonable price, I'll definitely delve into that, thank you for your comment!
May I recommend Rogue Panda frame bags? They make amazing custom bags that fit any frame. My friend has one for her 46cm frame, and I have one for my 53cm frame. You take a picture of your bike with a ruler next to it, and the bag maker uses this to assess the exact dimensions your bags need to be. It’s incredible and mine are perfect.
I heard you mention helicopter tape. Does that work well and is it easy to remove? Thanks for all of the great videos, it's been a great escape from managing Zoom classes for my daughter on top of work, and everything else...
Some say it’s hard to remove and can take off your paint. Using a hairdryer apparently can help prevent that. I use old inner tube secured to the frame, but not touching it, with electrical tape. This won’t affect the paintwork.
dlevi67 mine leaks been damp inside. And they’re made in China, not that’s a bad thing but the they put England on the outside kind of false advertising.
@@JAYZWORKSHOP Hah! Thank you for the heads up. I don't care where they are made, but if they are not waterproof then it's a different story, especially at a premium price!
dlevi67 I have no problems with the saddle bag or bar bag , mainly the top tube bag is leaking frame bag not sure sometimes it feel damp could be condensation.
Not a fan. They look cheap. I would have thought Brooks would have made some more traditional looking bags, perhaps some leather or a waterproof lightweight cloth of sorts. I think I'll keep to my Restrap and Apidura! But thanks Jules for this video.
@@JulietElliottsChannel yeah, I know, and it IS something.... but ya know, when it says England on the bags and they're premium product it kinda sticks it the craw. 😔
@@cjohnson3836 why not, they aren't any wider than handle bars and they have a lower center of gravity. I can see if you don't want to carry much or only very compressible items or if you are worried about the durability of a rack.
Cinch them up tight and don't overload them. They work well! Bags like these are designed for narrow confines, racing and travelling lightweight. It's like comparing a two seat sports car to a family SUV on holiday... different animals for different purposes.
When I got my bags I was shocked to see they are made in China, the bags are not fully waterproof my top tube bag has let water in the zips are just water resistant . They should have designed the with a Velcro flap or something. Love the seats but won’t be buying any more bags.
Michael Taylor When I got my bags I was shocked to see they are made in China, the bags are not fully waterproof my top tube bag has let water in the zips are just water resistant . Kind of false advertising when the put England on the bags.
Michael Taylor the seat bag and bar bag are waterproof, its the top tube bag let’s in water the bags material is waterproof it’s the zips are only water resistant . The frame bag feel damp inside could be condensation.
In 2019 we drove to Dartmoor to go bikepacking but Dave got tired and wanted to go back to the car. So we rode back, got the car and drove to a nice camping spot. I'll be taking her on her first proper bikepacking trip this summer (Covid allowing)
Why don't you relate Brexit to the negative influence to bicycling in the UK. Bags are great but not- even Brooks bags (my first Brooks saddle I had butchered by a tech in Ealing by Eric at W.HInds back in 1964- fantastic - made in UK) are now made anywhere near the North Circular. UK bicycling is suffering - even though the uptake of pedallers is beyond encouraging - by punitive, ignorant political impoverished, tattered flag waving ideologies which confront a real need to address the way we live - and move (i.e.cycle) in this modern world. You have a platform - use it.
"Get out and explore" is what those bags say to me. I have similar set up yet have yet to do an overnighter. Instead, I am gone all day, usually avoiding others and sometimes take my stove and make coffee. It usually below freezing here in SLC so it can get pretty exciting.
Bitter beer is ok( Unless you're gluten free like I am), but hot coffee on a cold morning... mmmmm.
I really love the Brooks materrial. I bought myself recently a 10 liters Glenbrook saddlebag, a C17 cambium special copper saddle and cambium copper grips. I have not been able to try them out though, just for the simple reason that I do not own a bike at the moment. But no worries, the bike is more or less the next thing on my list and hopefully by the time spring arrives I will be able to make my first ride since... 1976. :-)
What you need is a friendly RAF Safety Equipment Fitter (known a Squippers), the guys who make all the pilots immersion suits and dingies etc.
A friend of mine at RAF Valley made me 100% waterproof, lightweight frame-bag, bar roll and rear pannier bags for a crate of beer and a months supply of chocolate hobnobs!
It's not what you know ...
The combination of the Brooks bags and the bike is gorgeous
Thanks for the look at the Brooks bags. I like the holster for the handlebar bag and the seat bag. Looks like it makes things super easy. I also like the valve to let the air out. Seems like nice touches. I'm looking forward to getting out to go bike packing when it's possible.
I'm intrigued by the top tube bag. My favorite bar bag is an OrNot and they are hard to come by. I might default to a top tube bag if I can't snag an OrNot the next time they produce some. Perfect for storing snacks!
More exploring please , its good what you can discover locally during these times ,i like the idea of the “holster” set up of the bags.. grab n go
That’s what I love about gravel riding! I keep exploring places and routes that I’d never see on my road bike! Keep your videos coming! I find them very inspiring. 🇨🇦🇨🇦🇨🇦🇨🇦🇨🇦🇨🇦🇨🇦🇨🇦🇨🇦🇨🇦🇨🇦🇨🇦🇨🇦
Thanks! Will do!
Balls! I just bought a saddlebag, and I love Brook’s saddle, maybe 🤔 I need to check this company’s return guidelines
MORNING! So nice to hear from you Juliet.
Love the gravel bike looks amazing !!!
That colour is soo gorgeous!
cool review ... together with the one from Wiggle I have a good understanding of the range - love the colour finish and quality ... and it would match my Cafe Du Cycliste Handlebar Bag I already own .. thanks :-)
Brookes must be one of the oldest Bike bit firms in the UK now. ! The old Brooks Pro copper rivet and B 17 saddles were and prob ,still are the best bits of leather money can buy ! At least you do not have to strap and old Yellow rain cape on top of the rear saddle bag any more thankfully lol..
That is a lovely bike.
Small frames often have saddlepack issues with the bag touching the tyre or, in your case, the holster, and it's not a problem specific to Brooks. In my experience contact of this kind will quickly make a hole unless the holster or bag are made of some seriously tough material. I get round this problem on my small-framed fat bike by using a PDW Bindle rack attached to the seat post, with straps to attach it under the saddle. No sway, it can't move if you accidentally kick it getting on the bike, you can use any size drybag you want and no tyre rub. Those Brooks bags sure don't come cheap but I have to say they look pretty classy.
Would love a video on how one plans out a bike packing trip. How do you decide how far to go, where to stop, how much food to pack...
Like that bar bag. Tempting
Morning!
I AM really well and it's just the greatest pleasure to see you. :)
Good morning!
I really like this ride. Very nice.
The worlds best rider! It is fun to watch you race!
Loving the bike, got one myself, but will let others be the guineapigs for these bags. Would probably go for brands that have been well tried and tested in the bikepacking world. Waterproofing would be a top priority for me. Not sure about the styling either, in that they don’t stand out from the crowd or look anything special. Nice video Juliet! Really helpful.
Having said that, I do particularly like the look of the frame bag, having looked at a lot of brands, and have just ordered one 👍🏻
For anyone interested, I’ve received the Scape frame bag and am almost totally satisfied. It’s very well made, looks and feels good quality, solid and durable. Not tested but does look like it will keep water out. Juliet has I think the small frame of this bike. I have the XL frame so the top tube is much longer. The bag fits well to the front of the frame and has 7 loops and 6 Velcro straps. Two at the top front are right next to each other, so you only need to use one in this area. The Velcro length from the front loop only just gets around the head tube, but secures ok here. But the Velcro is way too short for the loop at the back to connect to the seat tube. With five other attachment points this will probably be ok, but if I need to use that loop I will have to add a DIY extension to the supplied Velcro. Surprised Brooks didn’t supply one longer Velcro strap to suit larger frames. No regrets on purchasing this bag though.
I’m all about the Apidura and Revelate but they look ok...nice Marin 🙂👍🏻
Thanks, have basically same set up just different maker
What's the name of the brand and is it good?
Nice setup Juliet.👍
Morning - ish! Enjoyed that, thanks. Setup seems similar to Restrap.. Have you heard of Alistair Humphreys? He’s doing something about thoroughly exploring places within one OS map where you live, and whether that’s enough.. I’m guessing the answer near Dartmoor is that there’s plenty to explore in the local area, but worth checking out if you haven’t already. Stay safe!
Katie's looking for saddles. I suggested she speaks to you about the Cambium but I think she's sticking with her Bontragers. Your white one looks very cool.
Ooooh... those bags... so pretty...
nice frame bag👍👌
Thanks for the nice video and Before the saddlebag wobbles like a lambs tail, i use the woho saddlebag stabilizer. This is a real gamechanger for a nice price ;-)
Good review, because it was real! No fake because of sponsering. More of this in future please :)
Jules great job!
Thanks
The zips are good BUT at best they are showerproof... especially once they get a bit worn or dirty. They are way better than non-sealed zips and storm flaps.
i love your style Julie, keep the 🔥 flame burning 😎👍
Thank you! Will do!
I'm getting my DSX 2 soon and I'd also like to buy the Scape Frame Bag. What size are you, small or large? Regards
Would love to see more of your Gravel Bike routes please Juliet, lockdown prevented us from Camping near Dartmoor last year so hopefully try again this year, not to ‘Narly’ please otherwise my Wife will be doing a lot of ‘Bike Hiking’ 🤔
Loved it Jules great job!
That looks awesome kit...pricey but seems to be well thought out.....
Hi Juliet, have you tried riding a wooden bike such as the gravel bikes made by Twmpa cycles?
What do you make of the DSX2? Looks good but coming from riding MTB’s so not sure if I should go the whole hog and get a drop bar.
New gifts so it's bikepacking time
Not bad looking kit , it would take me three birthdays to get the complete set as its quite expensive.
Great review Jules....but......planet x podsacs, don’t look as pretty but waterproof and peanuts compared to these prices!
Pretty bike
It's nice. But I think restrap are probably the best there is.
Looks awesome
I like your rock and roll pants .
Most of that stuff is out of stock in the US.... Looks nice.
Great vid , thanks for posting :)
No problem 👍
Apidura or Brooks frame bag? What do you use now?
IM CONSIDERING THIS ONE FOR MY FIRST REAL BIKE ANY INPUT IS HELPFUL
I got mine in Dec and very happy with it. I’m running it with tubes and Tannus Armour, which is something new for me. The only other thing I’ve added is Mudhuggers front and rear and a nice small Singnature bar bag from Arkel.
I'm not into road or gravel I'm an emtb rider I just come here to see Jules, what a cutey. Love the Ink and how grounded you are.
Regards from colombia Juliet!
Thats a large front bag, wouldn't it need a front carrier and a decalouer to stop it swinging around on the handlebars and affecting handling. Thanks for the video.
No, I’ve done multiple trips with a set up like this, it works well
Hi, Are you able to attach any rear lights after installing the Scape Seat Bag (Saddle bag) on your bicycle ?
Just attach them to the bag
@@JulietElliottsChannel I just ordered the Scape Seat Bag, Can't wait for it to arrive. so excited :)
I’m bike packing Europe depending on COVID, unsure whether to take my small road tyres or chunky gravel tyres. Anyone have a recommendation?
It entirely depends where you’re going and what route you’re taking
@@JulietElliottsChannel sorry I should of explained. We are not planning a fixed route as such, we will start in southern Croatia and cycle Southern Europe coast line up to Normandy. We do not want to plan fixed routes but we will have different locations we need to get to each day.
Fit all frames/sizes, makes me laugh! I'm yet to find a set that fits my 48cm frame and this frame bag once again is too big.
Also looking! Especially for the teeny triangle on my Ice Cream Truck.
Same on my XS frame of my Bombtrack Hook EXT. I have returned so many Topeak and Ortlieb bags and gone back to pannier racks
Try the restrap small or medium size. On my wife's specialized diverge 2020 48cm i fitted the medium version as tight as it could be..ans she can still use one 750ml bottle there. Restrap has measurements on their websites... Or even better, @ apidura you can print them in 1:1 scale and try it on your frame...
@@Max-dj5qj thanks heaps. From apidura only the racing frame pack 2.4L fits but its not optimal. However it seems that restrap does custom at a reasonable price, I'll definitely delve into that, thank you for your comment!
May I recommend Rogue Panda frame bags? They make amazing custom bags that fit any frame. My friend has one for her 46cm frame, and I have one for my 53cm frame. You take a picture of your bike with a ruler next to it, and the bag maker uses this to assess the exact dimensions your bags need to be. It’s incredible and mine are perfect.
I heard you mention helicopter tape. Does that work well and is it easy to remove? Thanks for all of the great videos, it's been a great escape from managing Zoom classes for my daughter on top of work, and everything else...
it's great, I'd definitely recommend it. I don't know about removing it as I just leave it on That's great to hear, glad you are enjoying the vids
Some say it’s hard to remove and can take off your paint. Using a hairdryer apparently can help prevent that. I use old inner tube secured to the frame, but not touching it, with electrical tape. This won’t affect the paintwork.
Morning!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!🇦🇺🤙
Are they shipping to the UK again? Those top-tube/frame bags look interesting...
dlevi67 mine leaks been damp inside. And they’re made in China, not that’s a bad thing but the they put England on the outside kind of false advertising.
@@JAYZWORKSHOP Hah! Thank you for the heads up. I don't care where they are made, but if they are not waterproof then it's a different story, especially at a premium price!
dlevi67 I have no problems with the saddle bag or bar bag , mainly the top tube bag is leaking frame bag not sure sometimes it feel damp could be condensation.
@@JAYZWORKSHOP Thank you again. More investigation required...
Are you still with Dave haven’t heard about him lately you two are legends ?
Cat bell? Be safe !! Thanks for the tips.
You bet!
Trouble is you cant order any of their kit in the UK? Anybody know a UK distributor?
Do you have Dave on rollers in the basement 😅😅 love you guys
great vid! How is Brexit gonna effect those in Britain to obtain them? I have been looking at bag systems thanks!~
It is already affected. Brooks are owned by Selle Italia, and there was article in paper about how logistics are already affected.
@@timselves1 yep, even though some Brooks stuff is made in UK it’s all distributed from Italy, even the UK orders apparently. Bonkers
Is that a Brooks saddle and if so which one. Where canI get the foam spacers? Cheers
it's a C17, the spacers come with the bag
Is that seat bag rubbing on your rear tire?
no
Not a fan. They look cheap. I would have thought Brooks would have made some more traditional looking bags, perhaps some leather or a waterproof lightweight cloth of sorts. I think I'll keep to my Restrap and Apidura! But thanks Jules for this video.
hi,we are supplying similar quality and competitive Triangle Frame Bag
What model bike what tyres please?
Marin DSX 2 bike. Not sure about these tyres but she runs WTB Raddlers on her drop bar gravel bike. These look similar.
Front bags on the front wheel, hardly safe for gravel or off road
Um... what? It’s not on the front wheel, it’s on the handlebars. I’ve done multiple off road trips with a bar bag set up
Looks like some nice kit. But you just know that it's 'Brooks England', made abroad.... 😢
Saddles are made in Birmingham
@@JulietElliottsChannel yeah, I know, and it IS something.... but ya know, when it says England on the bags and they're premium product it kinda sticks it the craw. 😔
I thought brooks were stopping shipping stuff here now ??
I am not a big fan of the seat bags for the very reason that they tend to bounce around. Prefer paniers.
Fine for touring. Can't run panniers on tech single-track.
@@cjohnson3836 why not, they aren't any wider than handle bars and they have a lower center of gravity. I can see if you don't want to carry much or only very compressible items or if you are worried about the durability of a rack.
Cinch them up tight and don't overload them. They work well! Bags like these are designed for narrow confines, racing and travelling lightweight. It's like comparing a two seat sports car to a family SUV on holiday... different animals for different purposes.
Tailfin is the answer for me.
@@mattspare8835 I call them sausage bags. LOL
Thank you! Can we drive together? :-)
When I got my bags I was shocked to see they are made in China, the bags are not fully waterproof my top tube bag has let water in the zips are just water resistant .
They should have designed the with a Velcro flap or something.
Love the seats but won’t be buying any more bags.
Evening 😩
Ohhh i want some Brooks to try on my gravel bike!!
Michael Taylor When I got my bags I was shocked to see they are made in China, the bags are not fully waterproof my top tube bag has let water in the zips are just water resistant . Kind of false advertising when the put England on the bags.
@@JAYZWORKSHOP how is a dry bag not fully waterproof? User error??
Michael Taylor the seat bag and bar bag are waterproof, its the top tube bag let’s in water the bags material is waterproof it’s the zips are only water resistant . The frame bag feel damp inside could be condensation.
The rain collects on top of the zips and seeps in top tube bag
115 gbp for a dry bag. Wow.
It’s not just the dry bag now is it?
Have you gone bike packing with your daughter?
In 2019 we drove to Dartmoor to go bikepacking but Dave got tired and wanted to go back to the car. So we rode back, got the car and drove to a nice camping spot. I'll be taking her on her first proper bikepacking trip this summer (Covid allowing)
Touches your rear tire🙃
No aero no fun ;D
Pretty hair, just sayin'
thanks. I actually 'did' my hair for the first time in a couple of years!!!!
Why don't you relate Brexit to the negative influence to bicycling in the UK. Bags are great but not- even Brooks bags (my first Brooks saddle I had butchered by a tech in Ealing by Eric at W.HInds back in 1964- fantastic - made in UK) are now made anywhere near the North Circular. UK bicycling is suffering - even though the uptake of pedallers is beyond encouraging - by punitive, ignorant political impoverished, tattered flag waving ideologies which confront a real need to address the way we live - and move (i.e.cycle) in this modern world. You have a platform - use it.
Go and have a lie down in a dark room and stop taking yourself so seriously!
who knows...i dont know...you do the math...wonderfully lazy
very very overpriced stuff this brooks is....
If you'd ever ridden far on a Brooks saddle you wouldn't say that.
Meh... it's comparable to other manufacturers... Try making your own... you might appreciate the price of this kit... :)