Swedwoods got this one nailed...his has a little more weight than your set up (maybe) but it's a bombproof piece of kit. It's well worth checking out his channel if you haven't seen it...he is full of very interesting takes on bushcraft, excellent quality videos as well. Great job on lightening the load, by the way.
Like I said in your last video I did this same experiment and this video reminded me of another reason why I went with the welded eye on each bit. They are all pretty good at going in but it's the pull out that I wasn't happy with. You said you could use an adapter with the Bahco ratchet to get a deeper hole, I'd be very careful with that as you may lose the bit in the hole once it unthreads from it's bottom thread and you try and pull the bit out of the hole. I also tried the tube with a socket welded to it as like Voodoo Sausages idea but once again this is fine on drive but not on removal unless you can add a locking mechanism (adding more weight) I would say the best compromise would be choose two sizes you'd use the most out of those Record triple wing cutters and weld a 6 inch long, ten mm bar (sorry I'm 50 which means I'm bi-lengthal) to it and then weld an eye onto that. That way when you withdraw you have a solid one piece connection from handle to cutter. this would (i reckon) be approx the same weight as the ratchet , an adapter and the two cutters.
It was awkward pulling the bit out I must admit. I wouldn't drill that deep anyway. I opened a can of worms up by doing these videos, just trying to put a different spin on things, I like muilti use kit, I'd never compromise on knives as they are a primary tool but an auger just isn't that important , I can play around with the concept.
@@RobEvansWoodsman It's nice to see people working through ideas, it beats the "look this is the way i do it" videos because you can see the process of how you got there which to me is more interesting.
Trial, error and compromise. Like how you have shown the various stages of development of the compact multi use auger. As you've stated the standard 1" scotch eyed auger is still the best, but I like the alternative approach for something more compact that can serve various uses. Keep up the good work.
Dave Canterbury had a great idea using a black iron 3/4" to 1/2" T-reducer and a 1/2" to 1/4" iron adapter with augers that have a tapered shank. Heat up the iron adapter after assembling to the T reducer then tap onto the auger end turning the round hole square. It will fit several augers
On the subject of making holes in things, and apologies if this strays off Rob's topic, but I've found those little sets of French-made auger gimlets incredibly useful. Very inexpensive and well worth having a couple of sizes in your bushcraft bag.
@@RobEvansWoodsman I think part of the problem is that you need it to slot back more. I have seen some interesting bits that have a screw fitting at back which can have a hex or socket which might work with a t bar or similar?
You're spot on, It's an old look at this one ua-cam.com/video/rT8XujQuo2o/v-deo.html I decided to buy a large auger with a tube welded on it for a big hole and I adapted a ratchet tap holder for smaller holes this works well.
You can make a very serviceable breakdown auger setup using a T section of pipe to make an adapter for any auger bit to make it into a scotch eye auger. It may not be light enough for your goals but it does work well. Dave Canterbury has a good video on how to make one on his UA-cam channel .
I saw it a while back, he used plumbing parts, I've had a few ideas on T-bars I can make myself just went for the easy option, had a bit of a job looking for that little screwdriver!
You might have considered this already, but I have seen scotch augers with auger bits (like the Irwin bits you have) that are used with a hex socket welded to a 1.5” diameter bit of steel tube. Use with a stick as with scotch eyed augers. If you know a welder, might be a cheap and strong alternative to your Bahco handle.
It's a good few years ago but I think it might not have been called part 1 as I wasn't expecting to make a follow up video, it's now called Lightweight auger project part 1
Swedwoods got this one nailed...his has a little more weight than your set up (maybe) but it's a bombproof piece of kit. It's well worth checking out his channel if you haven't seen it...he is full of very interesting takes on bushcraft, excellent quality videos as well.
Great job on lightening the load, by the way.
Those Irwin bits are beasts, much better than the Makita stubby augers i used originally.
Like I said in your last video I did this same experiment and this video reminded me of another reason why I went with the welded eye on each bit. They are all pretty good at going in but it's the pull out that I wasn't happy with. You said you could use an adapter with the Bahco ratchet to get a deeper hole, I'd be very careful with that as you may lose the bit in the hole once it unthreads from it's bottom thread and you try and pull the bit out of the hole. I also tried the tube with a socket welded to it as like Voodoo Sausages idea but once again this is fine on drive but not on removal unless you can add a locking mechanism (adding more weight)
I would say the best compromise would be choose two sizes you'd use the most out of those Record triple wing cutters and weld a 6 inch long, ten mm bar (sorry I'm 50 which means I'm bi-lengthal) to it and then weld an eye onto that. That way when you withdraw you have a solid one piece connection from handle to cutter. this would (i reckon) be approx the same weight as the ratchet , an adapter and the two cutters.
It was awkward pulling the bit out I must admit.
I wouldn't drill that deep anyway.
I opened a can of worms up by doing these videos, just trying to put a different spin on things, I like muilti use kit, I'd never compromise on knives as they are a primary tool but an auger just isn't that important , I can play around with the concept.
@@RobEvansWoodsman It's nice to see people working through ideas, it beats the "look this is the way i do it" videos because you can see the process of how you got there which to me is more interesting.
Cheers Mike.
Trial, error and compromise. Like how you have shown the various stages of development of the compact multi use auger. As you've stated the standard 1" scotch eyed auger is still the best, but I like the alternative approach for something more compact that can serve various uses. Keep up the good work.
I love you mate!!
Just what I wanted to hear!
Top man.👍
Dave Canterbury had a great idea using a black iron 3/4" to 1/2" T-reducer and a 1/2" to 1/4" iron adapter with augers that have a tapered shank. Heat up the iron adapter after assembling to the T reducer then tap onto the auger end turning the round hole square. It will fit several augers
I have solved the issue now, I had a large auger made and I adapted a ratchet tap to take smaller auger bits.
Auger is heavily underrated 👍 great video
On the subject of making holes in things, and apologies if this strays off Rob's topic, but I've found those little sets of French-made auger gimlets incredibly useful. Very inexpensive and well worth having a couple of sizes in your bushcraft bag.
As long as you don't repeat the "you need a scotch auger" phrase you can say what you want mate.
How about a link?
Really great idea
It's not trust me, watch next weeks mallet video.
Good video! What about a Sliding T-Bar and a hex socket? You could even get rid of the bar in favor of tube.
There has been a follow up video to this one and some other hole making tests.
@@RobEvansWoodsman I think part of the problem is that you need it to slot back more. I have seen some interesting bits that have a screw fitting at back which can have a hex or socket which might work with a t bar or similar?
You're spot on, It's an old look at this one ua-cam.com/video/rT8XujQuo2o/v-deo.html
I decided to buy a large auger with a tube welded on it for a big hole and I adapted a ratchet tap holder for smaller holes this works well.
@@RobEvansWoodsman Rex Krueger has just done a modern take on the bit and brace video which was interesting.
@@paulotoole4950 I have a brace and bit set.
You can make a very serviceable breakdown auger setup using a T section of pipe to make an adapter for any auger bit to make it into a scotch eye auger. It may not be light enough for your goals but it does work well. Dave Canterbury has a good video on how to make one on his UA-cam channel .
I saw it a while back, he used plumbing parts, I've had a few ideas on T-bars I can make myself just went for the easy option, had a bit of a job looking for that little screwdriver!
@@RobEvansWoodsman Good luck on your quest for the perfect solution. Thanks for the videos.
that item with the ratcheting gear. If the handle is solid could you hollow out lengthwise enough to take a green stick and not use the ratchet?
I gave up on this one ages ago, I made a better one.
Why not use the ratchet from a socket set ?
You might have considered this already, but I have seen scotch augers with auger bits (like the Irwin bits you have) that are used with a hex socket welded to a 1.5” diameter bit of steel tube. Use with a stick as with scotch eyed augers. If you know a welder, might be a cheap and strong alternative to your Bahco handle.
The whole point of me doing this is to avoid the heavy one use scotch auger and find a lightweight, muilti purpose alternative.
Wheres the part 1 of the video?
It's a good few years ago but I think it might not have been called part 1 as I wasn't expecting to make a follow up video, it's now called Lightweight auger project part 1
Just get the Jon Mac set then you can use all the bits you've already bought and the set,
I have since bought the same ratchet set that's in John's set, not strong enough for the Irwin bits I have. It'll do 1/2" max.
@@RobEvansWoodsmanah ok, cool,I have the set it's a good bit of kit and not that expensive if you compare it to the price of 4 scotch eyes.
My friend has the kit, great for smaller holes👍
Have you seen this set? www.workshopheaven.com/jon-mac-bushcraft-auger-set.html
Scott has that set or one similar , it costs a fair bit compared to my "put together" set.
Glad to see you're watching Steve!