I'm the vfr rider in the vid. Just to clarify, I wasn't trying to get into the mikes leadout, I was moving up. My teammate Miles was following an attack by Gavin, and then immediately went to the front. Eamon only had 2 teammates ahead of him, mikes wasn't on the front, and I was moving up to help my teammate. I don't have a problem with physical racing but you guys misrepresented the situation
@@RylHango Pure glazing. The voler rider was literally trying to help with the leadout and had a rider on the front 😭😭😭 Pushing is fine but this was just weird and petty
Great racing out there Andrew!! That was some awesome efforts and strong racing. Nice to see you representing your Team on the podium of such a hardcore Criterium.
@@RylHango you can see the Mike Bikes leadout went astray far below that little contact. Rubbing is racing and sometimes bouncing off people is racing too. I know Andrew is a super clean and respectful rider and he and Eamon and Alex Akins all have trained together in the past and all 3 of those racers started out as part of the Monterey Bay Junior Development Race Team. Andrew and Eamon are friends! Which makes this moment extra special. That Mikes Bikes leadout got a little split up at the end as you can see and they even cut themselves off in the end there!
Weird logic: I've got two team mates in front of me so I am justified in deviating from my line and aggressively trying to take out someone whose handlebar is well and truly in front of mine.
It's a fine line, because while I agree with you that it doesn't make sense to do this to a guy that has made it well past you, if they were neck and neck it wouldn't really be good etiquette to try to take the wheel from two teammates outright. You can expect that most guys would not give it up without a fight. But in this case there is nothing the mikes bikes rider can do if this kid started slotting in to steal the wheel because he is so much further ahead of him
"I'm really happy to keep all my skin." Dude! I've been there. I remember hitting a pothole that loosened my bars and blew my back tire. I was SO glad to just stay upright and roll off to the side out of the group without crashing. Great coverage and keep up the awesome work, guys!
Never seen a pedal explode like that, what a bummer way to end a race. Gotta do better with the communication too, Jeff wasted his effort and probably spooked his teammates coming in hot so late in that narrow section. It's tough when you're deep in the pain cave but that could've been ugly.
Exactly what happened to me at Merced criterium at the backside on final lap my cleat popped out and chain derailed. Lost all my momentum. Was sick. Rode straight to my car and went home. Discovered my dura ace pedal was set very loose as I clipped out while maneuvering through that tight spot. Video was great and you were set up perfectly for the win.
51st!... because commenting is a tuff sport too, and only 1 person can actually be first. Love you channel, I've been a huge fan for the last 5 years and am now a cat 2.
8:53 being short myself I've had that happen to me a few times. Not a lot by any means, but two or three times in 20 years of racing on and off. And I might have deserved it once or twice 😎.
I want to hear what Eamon thinks about the BMC rider for Disruptors on Stage 4 of Redlands. Nationsnumber1beast video has just a couple comments about that rider during the race....
Totally disagree with the contact on the rider at 8:56. He got you and is clearly half a bike length ahead of your guy. It's too late to fight him off, pedal harder next time.
@@shaunb93291 Yeah better just let them win the race because they brought guys to the front. Every rider has a right to ride past you and this kind of contact is only appropriate when it is unclear who is in front.
I have an ultra endurance athlete I speak with during each of the livestreams. I had him add some additional Z2 work to the base and build 3 plans he's working through, and he's seen big performance gains. There are likely even more who aren't regulars on the livestream Q&As.
What is up with the GIGANTIC number plates? Were the folks on the I.S.S. trying to track the race visually? Seriously, those are like printed on legal size paper, lol.
The quality control and design choices of major cycling brands are pitiful. To be fair, the consumers permit it. Glad everyone is safe, better luck next time.
throwing an elbow like that in a pro race will get you relegated. Theres a difference between protecting your line and making a dangerous move like that. If you're physically extending your arm like that, its a dangerous and unpredictable move. No need for that while your pedaling in a straight line.
I think that's when you unclip and stick your leg out to kick someone. Here he doesn't leave a gap open for the guy to come in front of him, while he is trying to butt his way into the line.
@@NorCalCycling Hey jeff. For me, watching the 8:51 moment in slo mo is pretty telling. It looks like Eamon comes off his line to merge with that other rider and body checks him away. At this level I guess you can get away with that. But where I race (admittatdly at a lower level), that would get you sanctioned. Especially aggressive when you're riding two wide on a wide straight road. Great racing but that kind of move is a bit rich for my blood. Thanks for the video!
Eamon, not trying to gas you up here, but you are wayyyy too big and wayyyy too powerful to be running carbon pedals. They are not rated to withstand that much force
This is where my master strategy of never being anywhere near 1,400 watts is golden
they wont even see it coming, such a good strategy
You have them right where you want them.
I'm the vfr rider in the vid. Just to clarify, I wasn't trying to get into the mikes leadout, I was moving up. My teammate Miles was following an attack by Gavin, and then immediately went to the front. Eamon only had 2 teammates ahead of him, mikes wasn't on the front, and I was moving up to help my teammate. I don't have a problem with physical racing but you guys misrepresented the situation
You clearly tried cutting into the leadout, that wasn’t gonna happen
@@RylHango Pure glazing. The voler rider was literally trying to help with the leadout and had a rider on the front 😭😭😭 Pushing is fine but this was just weird and petty
Great racing out there Andrew!! That was some awesome efforts and strong racing. Nice to see you representing your Team on the podium of such a hardcore Criterium.
@@RylHango you can see the Mike Bikes leadout went astray far below that little contact. Rubbing is racing and sometimes bouncing off people is racing too. I know Andrew is a super clean and respectful rider and he and Eamon and Alex Akins all have trained together in the past and all 3 of those racers started out as part of the Monterey Bay Junior Development Race Team. Andrew and Eamon are friends! Which makes this moment extra special. That Mikes Bikes leadout got a little split up at the end as you can see and they even cut themselves off in the end there!
@@TheCyclesportthanks Keith!
Critbeef will having a field day with Eamon being featured again 💀
Weird logic: I've got two team mates in front of me so I am justified in deviating from my line and aggressively trying to take out someone whose handlebar is well and truly in front of mine.
It's a fine line, because while I agree with you that it doesn't make sense to do this to a guy that has made it well past you, if they were neck and neck it wouldn't really be good etiquette to try to take the wheel from two teammates outright. You can expect that most guys would not give it up without a fight.
But in this case there is nothing the mikes bikes rider can do if this kid started slotting in to steal the wheel because he is so much further ahead of him
"I'm really happy to keep all my skin." Dude! I've been there. I remember hitting a pothole that loosened my bars and blew my back tire. I was SO glad to just stay upright and roll off to the side out of the group without crashing. Great coverage and keep up the awesome work, guys!
Never seen a pedal explode like that, what a bummer way to end a race. Gotta do better with the communication too, Jeff wasted his effort and probably spooked his teammates coming in hot so late in that narrow section. It's tough when you're deep in the pain cave but that could've been ugly.
Exactly what happened to me at Merced criterium at the backside on final lap my cleat popped out and chain derailed. Lost all my momentum. Was sick. Rode straight to my car and went home. Discovered my dura ace pedal was set very loose as I clipped out while maneuvering through that tight spot. Video was great and you were set up perfectly for the win.
thanks for another awesome vid from inside the mix
Thought Eamon was going to walk up to that house front door and ask to use the hose or request a glass of water
I'd go full mvdp at worlds after a scare like that
7:12 hey at least I pointed lol. I saw it slowing a bit so was going to attack
All good brother, you kept a cool head about the contact I wasn’t worried 👍
Andrew Carr 👍👍 Eamon, come on man, get out of my way!! Or not. Great racing Eamon, Andrew Carr, and Alex Akins!
51st!... because commenting is a tuff sport too, and only 1 person can actually be first. Love you channel, I've been a huge fan for the last 5 years and am now a cat 2.
FWIW, Eamon’s GCN+ documentary, about his time kermesse racing in Belgium, was really great
8:53 being short myself I've had that happen to me a few times. Not a lot by any means, but two or three times in 20 years of racing on and off. And I might have deserved it once or twice 😎.
13:13 _'Crit-to-Couch'_ - Eamon lays down the bike, tosses helmet in the hedge and cops a squat
A full time job ( 40+ hrs) and near 60, 8-10 hrs is all I can do. Even that sometimes can be rough.
If the boys are going to get physical out there, maybe you should invest in the new bib shorts with the airbags in them!
Looks like Eamon’s equipment malfunction made Ryan hesitate for a half second
Also who noticed Matt lead into the final corner so hot that he ended up riding up the sidewalk?
It is im not talking full physical but theres elbow rubbing and shoulder rubbing leaning etc.
hi, which camera do you use, please? The quality is really good!
That pedal explode was insane...
I want to hear what Eamon thinks about the BMC rider for Disruptors on Stage 4 of Redlands. Nationsnumber1beast video has just a couple comments about that rider during the race....
dude has the most CRIT BRO hairstyle I've evern seen.
look keo carbon blades? yeah that and the cleats breaking is the big reason i wont use those.
That HR of yours! I can't recall seeing it in the 190s in any video
ya i think it was bad data but this was also the hardest moment of the race so who knows
@@NorCalCycling yup - been there. "i was going hard, but THAT hard? maybe...."
Poor Andrew was thinking, I thought we were training partners Eamon!?
Great video!
Kid and Play throwback.
You guys had it! Bummer with the shoe-chanical
Very nice video keep going
Totally disagree with the contact on the rider at 8:56. He got you and is clearly half a bike length ahead of your guy. It's too late to fight him off, pedal harder next time.
lol seriously? Yeah no. You don’t bust in a leadout. Period.
@@shaunb93291 you don't risk taking someone off the bike for some unwritten rule. pedal harder, and make sure that gap is stitched up.
@@shaunb93291 Yeah better just let them win the race because they brought guys to the front. Every rider has a right to ride past you and this kind of contact is only appropriate when it is unclear who is in front.
Those were pretty gentle nudges, my dude. This even happens on group rides around here.
@@kidsafe Yeah the contact is fine in terms of how he did it.
Quality as allways
im using trainerroad and currently training for a 200 mile / 12 hour event. is the masterclass course something for me or is it more focused on crit?
I have an ultra endurance athlete I speak with during each of the livestreams. I had him add some additional Z2 work to the base and build 3 plans he's working through, and he's seen big performance gains. There are likely even more who aren't regulars on the livestream Q&As.
I have never seen a pedal explode like that, is this common?
Not really common, but 1400w are also not common, so...
What is up with the GIGANTIC number plates? Were the folks on the I.S.S. trying to track the race visually? Seriously, those are like printed on legal size paper, lol.
New fear unlocked… thanks Eamon 😬
Eamon gotta use track straps at this point.
Matt Koenig is a boss. Matt, if you see this comment, this is a Thank you for the Handaling Tr3evo!
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good lord talk about karma lmao
The quality control and design choices of major cycling brands are pitiful. To be fair, the consumers permit it. Glad everyone is safe, better luck next time.
In europe you start with 150 raiders wat is crazy
throwing an elbow like that in a pro race will get you relegated. Theres a difference between protecting your line and making a dangerous move like that. If you're physically extending your arm like that, its a dangerous and unpredictable move. No need for that while your pedaling in a straight line.
Incorrect
I think that's when you unclip and stick your leg out to kick someone. Here he doesn't leave a gap open for the guy to come in front of him, while he is trying to butt his way into the line.
@@NorCalCycling Hey jeff. For me, watching the 8:51 moment in slo mo is pretty telling. It looks like Eamon comes off his line to merge with that other rider and body checks him away. At this level I guess you can get away with that. But where I race (admittatdly at a lower level), that would get you sanctioned. Especially aggressive when you're riding two wide on a wide straight road. Great racing but that kind of move is a bit rich for my blood. Thanks for the video!
@@NorCalCycling 🤣
@@grandmastaflash14 dont push into someones line like that u gonna catch an elbow or a push
Fiasco! 😂😂😂😂
Big I have a truck and a small car better not merge in front of me energy
Eamon, not trying to gas you up here, but you are wayyyy too big and wayyyy too powerful to be running carbon pedals. They are not rated to withstand that much force
Shimano metal pedals for crit racing.
EJ and Jeff need to kiss and make up :(
Hilly races are far more interesting
Good example of karma. Also, these videos are making you sound more and more like an elitist. Not much humility.
Can't believe this dude thinks this haircut looks cool 😂
Aero af.