Why Ferrari may have a "Driver Problem" for the rest of 2024

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    Charles and Carlos had a bit of a tiff in Spain. Now that their relationship as teammates is coming to an end, is this the start of things to come? Or just a one off?
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  • @TommoOnYoutube
    @TommoOnYoutube  3 дні тому +66

    If both drivers were really told to "save the softs" at the start, do you consider Carlos to have disobeyed team orders by making that overtake?

    • @jayantchatterji3262
      @jayantchatterji3262 3 дні тому +33

      Yes because it was his home race and his emotions got the better of him there I think.

    • @gameofender4463
      @gameofender4463 3 дні тому +4

      I think he might’ve seen a chance to gain ground quickly at his home race after George took the lead.

    • @michaelfierman3256
      @michaelfierman3256 3 дні тому +4

      YES. ( !)

    • @nathanb286
      @nathanb286 3 дні тому +29

      Well him overtaking and using up more tyres ended up being the reason why he was forced onto the Russell strategy, so he kinda ruined his own race anyway

    • @IGG2002
      @IGG2002 3 дні тому +1

      NO, because Ferrari are SABOTAGING Carlos.

  • @thebateman761
    @thebateman761 3 дні тому +430

    Almost didn't even recognise the channel due to the thumbnail

    • @Limegreenedragon
      @Limegreenedragon 3 дні тому +6

      It was in the font used for Street Fighter II, so that's probably why

    • @TommoOnYoutube
      @TommoOnYoutube  3 дні тому +93

      Trying something different. FIGHT.

    • @vivekmohan4271
      @vivekmohan4271 3 дні тому +7

      ​@@TommoOnUA-cam 10/10 thumbnail

    • @Real28
      @Real28 3 дні тому +1

      ​@@TommoOnUA-cam yeah I actually love it. But I'm an 80s kid so pixel art and me go WAY back.

    • @kp-rv3ui
      @kp-rv3ui 3 дні тому

      Too little pink Tommo mate​@@TommoOnUA-cam

  • @user-tr1hx7jx4r
    @user-tr1hx7jx4r 3 дні тому +299

    Man I remember when Carlos was the greatest driver to ever live for about two weeks , the hype was crazy after he won in Australia 😂

    • @mexicanopdb
      @mexicanopdb 3 дні тому +3

      Yep

    • @sevach
      @sevach 3 дні тому +66

      "WHAT A HORRIBLE MISTAKE FERRARI MADE DROPPING SAINZ FOR WASHED HAMILTON"
      Seems like a lifetime ago.

    • @askeladden450
      @askeladden450 3 дні тому +62

      @@user-tr1hx7jx4r "ferrari fired the wrong driver" it was honestly disgusting how carlos fans went after charles even though he had nothing to do with getting rid of carlos.

    • @TommoOnYoutube
      @TommoOnYoutube  3 дні тому +78

      I mean tbh he's still very close to Charles. I know the quali H2H is pretty one sided, but the gaps have been marginal. He's still got a lot to offer, but Charles is, and always has been, the better driver IMO.

    • @askeladden450
      @askeladden450 3 дні тому +35

      @@TommoOnUA-cam carlos has always been super close to charles in qualis. But its the races where charles always has a big gap. Imola was 15s, monaco 9s (not really representarive as no one was pushing) and 8s in spain. This was the case in the past three years as well.

  • @karinap0610
    @karinap0610 3 дні тому +175

    sure leclerc's comments were maybe a bit unnecessary, but when he doesn't speak up for himself people think he's too soft or a pushover. sainz is a serial complainer so people think he is more headstrong. overall i respect your takes

    • @NewscasterNews4
      @NewscasterNews4 2 дні тому +45

      It’s funny how everyone says that Charles doesn’t have a championship mentality because he’s “too nice and diplomatic”, then he finally stands up for himself and people think he “went too far.” It’s like he literally can’t win

    • @BlackDiamondYoutub
      @BlackDiamondYoutub 2 дні тому +19

      ​@@NewscasterNews4 he can't. That's how it works with fast drivers. People will hate them for any minor flaw in personality, and if they can't they'll just hate them for being fast. Max and Ham suffered the same

    • @TommoOnYoutube
      @TommoOnYoutube  2 дні тому +3

      I hear you. It depends on how much merit and value you put on making comments and sticking up for yourself publicly, versus privately within the team.

    • @karinap0610
      @karinap0610 2 дні тому +2

      @@TommoOnUA-cam true i guess we’ll never know how things behind the scenes play into something like this. to me it seems like it’s been simmering a while and might be now starting to boil over

  • @sourensoukatsui
    @sourensoukatsui 3 дні тому +43

    This team pairing has been imploding since 2022. Remember when Charles liked a tweet about how the 2023 car would be garbage because of what Sainz Sr. said that it would suit Carlos more compared to the 2022 car.
    Silverstone 2022, Charles refused to go to Maranello. Binotto literally went to Monaco just to calm him down. Even the public statements of Mekies favored Carlos. Now, all of them are gone.
    The politics within the team ruined any chance of harmony between the two.

    • @Wickey934
      @Wickey934 2 дні тому +5

      You couldn't say it better. Ferrari needs second driver with normal background but they don't know it yet

    • @arscasico
      @arscasico 2 дні тому +6

      oof... imagine when LH comes in then hahaha!
      CL never fooled me with his PR trained act but he hides it really well for the most part.

    • @AbsoleteAim
      @AbsoleteAim 2 дні тому +15

      ​@@arscasicoStrange how Charles gets criticized for being soft, but when he finally starts to show some give, people suddenly say it's 'too much', or that he's been doing some 'PR act'.

    • @mikasr.5
      @mikasr.5 2 дні тому +1

      sainz sr has been causing problems internally within teams since torro rosso days

  • @aurionblackfyre8480
    @aurionblackfyre8480 3 дні тому +24

    I think everyone is thinking way too hard on this

  • @askeladden450
    @askeladden450 3 дні тому +64

    George and carlos had to go for hards because they were the only ones who pushed like crazy in the opening laps, thus cutting down their first stint time. So disobeyeing the team plan did kinda cost him a bit of gap to charles at the end, although it costed charles an entire position.

    • @gameofender4463
      @gameofender4463 3 дні тому

      “George and russel”. I think in George’s case it wasn’t so much about tyre wear. More trying to split the strategies like in Canada.
      So it could’ve been the same logic for Sainz. As the hards were untested and if they’d worked it’d of been a genius move.

    • @askeladden450
      @askeladden450 3 дні тому +9

      @@gameofender4463 nah, george was struggling massively at the end of the first stint, he didnt manage his tyres well so the team had to pit him early.

    • @gameofender4463
      @gameofender4463 3 дні тому +1

      @@askeladden450 It wasn’t down to tyre management though as he trying to keep Lando behind for track position and to get the clean air.

    • @TommoOnYoutube
      @TommoOnYoutube  2 дні тому +3

      But do we know for sure that was the plan from Carlos' POV before the race? That's the thing, we're not a fly on the wall to know exactly what and wasn't agreed.

    • @askeladden450
      @askeladden450 2 дні тому +4

      @@TommoOnUA-cam the biggest clue for me was charles saying on the radio 'carlos came too close there' in a surprised tone referring to when carlos was was within 0.5s in lap 2 or 3. That hints that he was under the impression that carlos would also be managing his tyres at that stage. Either he had been given wrong info on carlos' strategy or carlos overrided the strategy himself. I dont know why charles would deliberately go so slow in the last corner (which was needed for tyre management) and putting himself under big threat from behind if he hadnt been ensured that both cars would be managing.

  • @Marina-sb3lm
    @Marina-sb3lm 3 дні тому +171

    It's funny how Sainz said that Charles complains too much even tho sainz is the one always whining on radio

    • @luismasanchez9367
      @luismasanchez9367 3 дні тому +8

      Not really

    • @F1dude.
      @F1dude. 3 дні тому +33

      "Nooooooo Ricky! It cannot be, they have to talk to me after the race"

    • @TommoOnYoutube
      @TommoOnYoutube  3 дні тому +53

      King of Karen ngl

    • @BwInNewJersey
      @BwInNewJersey 3 дні тому +11

      Exactly. The contract pressure must be getting to him. The amount of energy and focus he expelled on getting passed by Lewis was not a good look.

    • @FCB001
      @FCB001 3 дні тому +10

      @@luismasanchez9367 he whined about Lewis 😂

  • @gameofender4463
    @gameofender4463 3 дні тому +85

    Imo, it’s because Carlos probably feels like he has a point to prove against Charles. It’s the: “you’re replacing the wrong/faster driver” idea.
    Now, as much as I like Carlos, Charles is just a better/faster driver. But I wouldn’t be surprised if Carlos does whatever he can to finish ahead of Charles by the end of the season.
    Having said that, this could be good for Charles to cement his authority at Ferrari before Lewis turns up next year.

  • @William_Organ
    @William_Organ 3 дні тому +11

    Carlos pointing the finger at people for complaining is hilarious. If he spent less time whinging on track about legitimate overtakes and his own driving errors, maybe he'd finish higher.

  • @feiwei4271
    @feiwei4271 3 дні тому +32

    I feel like Carlos’s mind has certainly changed recently, he used to be so calculated and decent with tyre management. Ever since China, he seemed so desperate and trying to get in front of his teammate without considering tyre life at all.
    It’s not the first time Carlos did it this season, they touched in China as well when Carlos ran Charles wide.

    • @DannyBoy3
      @DannyBoy3 3 дні тому +23

      It’s not really something new though. In Austria last year Sainz was ignoring track limits and tire wear to try and get teamorders to get ahead of Leclerc. That gave him a penalty and cost him points

    • @feiwei4271
      @feiwei4271 3 дні тому +10

      @@DannyBoy3 That’s true, now I remember that one.

    • @andriusbruzas9211
      @andriusbruzas9211 3 дні тому +20

      It was always Sainz going on the line against Charles, never just staying behind and going on radio to say he is faster even when he is not. On the other hand Charles was always covering for him when behind. Singapore was won in part because Charles sacrificed his race and backed everyone up to give space. Just now that people are noticing.

  • @choochoooliver
    @choochoooliver 3 дні тому +35

    Sacked, looking for a new seat and his home race. Perfect storm.

    • @vasekkosar3931
      @vasekkosar3931 2 дні тому +2

      ... And to add to that your teammate still being quicker than you. That must have also played a part...

  • @mikasr.5
    @mikasr.5 3 дні тому +41

    Ironic considering sainz has been the one complaining about other drivers all season

  • @mnihadk2658
    @mnihadk2658 2 дні тому +7

    1:11 you forgot something, S-M-S was the faster strategy,but carlos stint in the mediums were really bad , that they had yo pit him for the harder compound

  • @ellea7927
    @ellea7927 3 дні тому +29

    I think Leclerc has had it. That's what happened. Too many times of Sainz getting in his way for no reason to ruin an agreed strategy (see Austria last year, China this year), and he had to swallow his pride too many times. Sainz has complained and quite frankly said worse on Leclerc, but when the other party does not engage in said discourse it dies down pretty quick. It's a long season so Fred needs to intervene now before it spirals. Sainz may be out of the door, but he has a contract to fulfill and if he acts in "his own interest" they can just kick him out and slot in a junior driver. It's that easy.

    • @SryNotSry33
      @SryNotSry33 3 дні тому +2

      Yes... Easy to slot a junior driver and lose the opportunity to potentially fight for constructors

    • @ellea7927
      @ellea7927 3 дні тому +4

      @@SryNotSry33 Mate if one of your drivers is willing to bang into your other driver at every race, then yes the result will be just the same for a constructors fight.

    • @Wickey934
      @Wickey934 2 дні тому +3

      Exactly, Sainz is Ferrari's biggest problem

    • @stefan.marsenicc
      @stefan.marsenicc 2 дні тому

      @@SryNotSry33Ferrari has money, im sure Hulk for example would be more than glad to drive for Ferrari until the end while Ollie gets seat to prepare for next year

    • @SryNotSry33
      @SryNotSry33 2 дні тому +1

      @@ellea7927 bang? They never crashed in years, racing hard is part of the sport. See podium press conference when they were talking about lando's squeeze on max. Entertainment. Same goes for Sainz when he cried when Lewis passed him on the limits. It's part of the sport.

  • @glenrobinson10
    @glenrobinson10 3 дні тому +5

    Ferrari already made their bed. They gave Leclerc the biggest contract in F1 & let the other driver go. It's admirable trying to keep things fair but not to the detriment of the team.

  • @meirl5700
    @meirl5700 3 дні тому +6

    The graphic for hamilton and russells tyres are the wrong way round 🤓

  • @saahil_xd
    @saahil_xd 3 дні тому +18

    Damn, i didn't see vasseur's comment. But I agree with the fact that leclerc has been a bit of a handful this weekend since free practice itself. So vasseur maybe was not impressed by his composure this weekend.

    • @nollienick1121
      @nollienick1121 2 дні тому +1

      I gave up on Charles when he dropped it in France in 2022 in open air.

  • @DifferentCorner42
    @DifferentCorner42 2 дні тому +9

    About the fighting in Monza and in Spain. Charles said in the post race in Barcelona that the overtake was FINE. He didn't have a problem with fighting on track, it's the ignoring of what was agreed upon before the race that pissed of Charlie boy. And he is totally right. I get Carlos wanting to look good, but not like this. And it's not the first time he does and says shady shit, just this time Charles wasn't having it and spoke his truth😅

  • @RashidHasanRafi-ru7fn
    @RashidHasanRafi-ru7fn 3 дні тому +21

    9:26 underlying frustration.
    He is getting dropped from Ferrari while driving very well, and is not going to get a top seat next year.
    You can definitely see where that comes from

    • @Mishybells
      @Mishybells 3 дні тому +14

      Than he should’ve taken the offer Ferrari had on table for him 1+1 but he wanted the same offer that Charles was given, also during Monza 23 Sr was yapping to all media journalists bout Jr to Audi in 26. You play with Ferrari & you get burned. Now bud is searching for a team to drive for 25, & he was the ONLY driver available at the start of the season but no top team wanted him! Dunno why? 🤷🏻‍♀️

    • @Wickey934
      @Wickey934 3 дні тому +6

      Is driving very well in a room with us?

    • @RashidHasanRafi-ru7fn
      @RashidHasanRafi-ru7fn 3 дні тому +1

      @@Wickey934 dafqu you talking about?

    • @Wickey934
      @Wickey934 2 дні тому +1

      @@RashidHasanRafi-ru7fn You said Carlos is driving very well which isn't true at all

    • @RashidHasanRafi-ru7fn
      @RashidHasanRafi-ru7fn 2 дні тому

      @@Wickey934 you think Carlos isn't driving well?

  • @luckymo_on
    @luckymo_on 3 дні тому +55

    The double standards r hilarious to me Carlos have always publicly criticised charles or ferrari in his radios or post race interviews but the moment leclerc does it, it becomes a huge issue and everyone s on his back for " betraying " the team... Now y that is i have no idea maybe charles words just carry more weight?? Who knows

    • @Dark.Valkyrie
      @Dark.Valkyrie 3 дні тому

      Yup i hate social media and journalists they are the worst they create narratives that should not exist and then all start to become toxicity

    • @DannyBoy3
      @DannyBoy3 3 дні тому +8

      Exactly. The narrative is crazy

    • @Snazzy16
      @Snazzy16 3 дні тому +23

      The narrative everyone has is so absurd. As soon as Charles breaks his perfect PR facade, everyone goes crazy. I mean it’s a competitive sport and he’s allowed to be frustrated. Carlos always does this too. Weather it’s in Austria 2023, China 2024, now. And people will always say Charles needs to speak up or he’s too soft but when he does the reaction is crazy

    • @luckymo_on
      @luckymo_on 2 дні тому +5

      @@Snazzy16 I know! Damned if he does damned if he doesn't!! He can't win

    • @nollienick1121
      @nollienick1121 2 дні тому

      Well Carlos will always loss these. Sense Charles is liked more. Personally I hate these little behind the back things.

  • @oscrito
    @oscrito 3 дні тому +61

    I think it’s just so out of character of Charles - known for being level headed, calm, patient, to comment on Sainz during his home GP in such a way (regardless of who’s at fault for the incident), and let’s not forget Charles’ deliberate attempt to crash into Lando during FP3. The whole weekend seemed off for Charles…you know it’s bad when even Fred told him to stop complaining…

    • @gameofender4463
      @gameofender4463 3 дні тому +29

      It is quite out of character for Charles. I think he’s just incredibly frustrated.
      Like, he won Monaco. And maybe thought he could go for the championship and then it’s just gone downhill fast.
      No points in Canada, and now Mercedes have turned up with Lewis & George maximising their car. And now Carlos is seeming like he’s now interested in getting ahead of Charles.
      So it’s yet another thing to think about, one after the other.

    • @TommoOnYoutube
      @TommoOnYoutube  3 дні тому +21

      I'm glad Fred pulled him up on it. It's just not worth the agg of putting comments like that out. I'd totally forgotten about that FP3 nonsense too actually - not a good look at all.

    • @Dark.Valkyrie
      @Dark.Valkyrie 3 дні тому

      Exactly my thoughts he was frustrated​@@gameofender4463

    • @DannyBoy3
      @DannyBoy3 3 дні тому +25

      That‘s what Carlos has been doing for years though. He has constantly criticized Leclerc and Ferrari in the media but the second it’s done to him, it’s too much?

    • @oscrito
      @oscrito 3 дні тому +1

      @@DannyBoy3 the discussion was never whether it was right or wrong (i think issues like this, like tommo has said, should be discussed internally), but rather it’s so out of character of Charles. Carlos is known for whining, which makes his quote ironic, but still, it’s unlike Charles to act in such a way during a race weekend, meaning there must be some other hindering factors causing his frustration, perhaps as @gameofender4463 has suggested, from the WDC/WCC pov.

  • @BwInNewJersey
    @BwInNewJersey 3 дні тому +29

    Very similar to the Gasly Ocon incident in Monaco -One driver chose to ignore clear team orders before the race. That would piss me off as well.

    • @michz2156
      @michz2156 2 дні тому +7

      I don’t know where you guys get that, Leclerc simply assumed that. Vasseur said that they never implied Carlos not pushing or overtaking. He said that the usual strategy here is to manage on the first stint and then the overtaking happens after going to the pits but that he could push. And looking at data Carlos in the first stint was managing the tyres far more than Charles, i think he just saw a chance and took it.

    • @greenfj1466
      @greenfj1466 2 дні тому +8

      ​@@michz2156Carlos said in the post race interview that he chose to be agressive in the first stint which is why he got the worse strategy, Leclerc managed his tyres and got the better strategy so it's pretty much Sainz's fault

    • @IGG2002
      @IGG2002 2 дні тому

      @@greenfj1466 It's Ferrari's fault. If they didn't even negotiated with Lewis Hamilton, we wouldn't see Ferrari civil war like we did now.

    • @nesrineg6496
      @nesrineg6496 2 дні тому +1

      @@IGG2002 you won't them to keep carlos by force if they didn't wont him its ok he doesnt have to be an ashole

    • @IGG2002
      @IGG2002 2 дні тому

      @@nesrineg6496 The team make a big mistake. Everyone knows how Mercedes treated Bottas. If Valtteri joined Ferrari in 2017 instead of joining Mercedes, he could have won the WDC at least once.

  • @pabloruedaarzoz8065
    @pabloruedaarzoz8065 2 дні тому +3

    It's funny cause for some spaniards Monza was Leclerc being a kamikaze. Brits and spaniards will never be on the same page when it comes to f1 narratives I guess

  • @nathancomley2721
    @nathancomley2721 3 дні тому +6

    13:31 "That's all it takes"
    Love your optimism Tommo! 😂

  • @davidszabo1765
    @davidszabo1765 3 дні тому +12

    Carlos is now at the "find out" phase

  • @userb3nje909
    @userb3nje909 2 дні тому +1

    This kicked in straight after the Catalunya race report and the volume difference was huge lol.
    Loud AF

  • @James_the_Prince
    @James_the_Prince 3 дні тому +3

    I think both guys have been really frustrated after the last couple of races , feels like they went from arguably the best car to 18 points in 2 races ... Yikes... Obviously from my pp.. I'm a Carlos fan but I'm not biased (unlike Tommo) he unnecessarily squeezed Charles and sometimes is ott.. but then Charles unnecessarily spoke out to the media and Carlos just reacted to that. End of day. They didn't crash... Leclerc finished ahead.. why does he need to say anything at all?
    It's all this drama Tommo I just love it 😁

  • @jackfuller6818
    @jackfuller6818 2 дні тому +1

    The Hamilton and Russel tyre graphic is the wrong way round lol, great video as usual

  • @DB-a-Boeing-Dr
    @DB-a-Boeing-Dr 3 дні тому +2

    And now Alpine have made him a offer over the Spain weekend which I believe was why no announcement was made. Flavio is splashing the cash already and with Dohan and Schumacher running side by side test sessions this week I dont think a double change is off the table yet. I think that Carlos even entertaining a Alpine offer to the extent it held up any announcement is worry. Its time for him to stop playing hard to get and sign so he can just get on with racing.

    • @mattle841
      @mattle841 День тому

      He's just using the alpine offer for leverage on other comtract talks. No one wants to go to that team

  • @magi0500
    @magi0500 3 дні тому +4

    What a thumbnail

  • @vatsaldvora
    @vatsaldvora 3 дні тому +9

    This idiotic Netflix show has made everyone wanting off field drama everyday. Everyone starts looking into small on track tussles and want it to be a huge deal. I’m sure it’s nothing

  • @barryallen381
    @barryallen381 2 дні тому +1

    Side note. Has anyone ever benefitted from the hard tires? It seems like either no one knows how to use them, the teams can’t figure them out, or Pirelli just make the hard tires utter garbage.

  • @frankhuurman3955
    @frankhuurman3955 2 дні тому

    1:39 didn't even notice Bottas just immersing himself in the argument, what a dude

  • @ashikaraj7810
    @ashikaraj7810 3 дні тому +1

    Outside of the incident itself i think the way both drivers commented abt it to media wasn't a great for the team especially since their form has gone down a little since monaco. With Merc above them, it already wasn't a great weekend and their fight is like a cherry on top. Just makes it look like ferrari are having a meltdown after starting well for a 3rd season in a row.
    Especially carlos's comment was a little surprising since Charles is known for usually NOT saying anything bad abt the team, so maybe things are a lot different inside the team

  • @akhila2521
    @akhila2521 3 дні тому +5

    "He doesn't have a crystal ball
    But he's gotta make a call"
    Tommo spitting bars🔥

  • @fronk5082
    @fronk5082 3 дні тому

    Thumbnail is fire, love how you express your creativity in these ways

  • @octanegamer1576
    @octanegamer1576 3 дні тому +17

    God that Street Fighter thumbnail

  • @allthegoodonesweregone
    @allthegoodonesweregone 2 дні тому +10

    I think it must be hard accepting there's a huge chance he may not win a world championship creeping into Carlos' mind. He probably also struggles to comprehend why he can't match Leclerc in the same machinery even though they're generally quite close to each other over the years in qualifying generally.
    Leclerc will win a championship for Ferrari if they simply nail the regulations. If Newey comes to Ferrari and matches their upwards trajectory then you can understand why Carlos might be resentful.

    • @maite16551
      @maite16551 2 дні тому +5

      I almost fully agree with that. Sainz probably won't win a wdc, while leclerc has the best chance out of the whole grid considering he was in the wdc lead several times and if not for Ferraris shitty decisions could've made it in 2022.
      And yes, Carlos frustration is understandable and totally okay to have, but he shouldn't let it out on his team and teammate while he's still driving with them. That's just a dishonorable mentality and makes him look bad with potential future teams. His driving is becoming more and more reckless and he as well as Leclerc are paying the price.

    • @1greenMitsi
      @1greenMitsi 2 дні тому +1

      Only he has pretty much matched Charles in the same machinery, outscored him the first year together

    • @maite16551
      @maite16551 2 дні тому +5

      @1greenMitsi yeah and that was the only time he outscored Leclerc in a Ferrari. And not to forget, especially on 2023, where Charles still came out ahead of in in the points, he was a race winner only due to Charles sacrificing his race because of team orders..

    • @nollienick1121
      @nollienick1121 2 дні тому

      Man Charles is the most hyped up driver besides mick. He is good but seems to always make mistakes that cost him.

    • @1greenMitsi
      @1greenMitsi 2 дні тому

      @@maite16551 well theyve literally only been together 2 full seasons...so theyre one a piece....

  • @rileyrolstone
    @rileyrolstone 2 дні тому +10

    One of the things that frustrates me that other people have pointed it out is that there’s a double standard for Charles. When, in the past, he has kept it for internal debrief he’s been called a pushover/weak/etc. but then in situations like this where he does say that publicly (like he’s been told by media/fans/SM/etc) then he’s causing drama/should have kept it internal. I just don’t see how he wins here?
    I also don’t see how Carlos wins when at least twice this season now he’s come into contact with his teammate and/or pulled a penalty on Charles. I’m thinking this incident and when he ran Charles off track. That can’t be enticing to future teams?

  • @lesliea.428
    @lesliea.428 День тому

    I think what Carlos means when he says “complaining after the race” is probably during the debrief that we don’t see. Because I agree that he doesn’t complain too much, other than about himself or when the team royally fucks up like in Montreal.

  • @genluk
    @genluk 3 дні тому

    That Squarespace ad caught me offguard Tommo, well played

  • @cult_personality
    @cult_personality 2 дні тому +5

    Ppl forgetting here is that the issue isn’t just about team orders. Its the way he chocked Charles. He could have tried a better move. It could have endup with a double DNF too.

  • @OnRestrictionn
    @OnRestrictionn 2 дні тому

    Where did you get the hat from? Been looking for a yellow one for quite a while

  • @crully84
    @crully84 2 дні тому

    3:30 Standard Lommo moment with the tyre graphics for the Mercs

  • @evandrochaves9596
    @evandrochaves9596 2 дні тому

    now imagine checo continue to fumble up so badly red bull just tear the contract and decides to go for piastri, and somehow he accepts, then carlos goes to mclaren revive the bromance but now in competitive grounds, and red bull finally has another driver who eats pressure for breakfest (I certainly think norris would crumble under red bull pressure, but piastri is raikkonen levels of chill)

  • @TheDutchStarWarsGuy
    @TheDutchStarWarsGuy 2 дні тому +1

    Okay, Tommo, the best teammate pairing is McLaren, not even close.

  • @harleynewton12
    @harleynewton12 2 дні тому +2

    I liked the original title and thumbnail better :(

  • @judethedude96
    @judethedude96 3 дні тому +12

    It was a shit attempt of an overtake though

    • @florisbackx1744
      @florisbackx1744 2 дні тому

      Max and Russel could deal with it, weird that teammates can't. Russel let max pass for strategy reasons, Leclerc could have done the same. Instead he tried to defend, the defending is actually what lost him the time.

    • @judethedude96
      @judethedude96 2 дні тому +3

      Leclerc was firmly on the apex and sainz from the outside collided with leclerc then cut the corner lol

    • @stefan.marsenicc
      @stefan.marsenicc 2 дні тому

      @@florisbackx1744lol? he was literally just there, Sainz attacked and Charles let him do it, as he said he wasn’t mad about overtake, but Carlos literally pushed Leclerc as much as possible (Leclerc right was literally on the curb and there was no more room on the right) and continued to squeeze him and he clipped Charles wing and then went off track

  • @SakibLH44
    @SakibLH44 День тому +1

    Where’d you get the cap!

  • @Laney-t1d
    @Laney-t1d 2 дні тому

    I don’t think Carlos would ever regret driving for Ferrari. It’s too iconic.

  • @kp-rv3ui
    @kp-rv3ui 3 дні тому +1

    Sainz has been heavy on the "no fucks given" type of conduct ever since the Hamilton deal was announced, so I can only assume he already has a seat secured?

  • @jkliao6486
    @jkliao6486 3 дні тому +1

    Genuinely sounds like Carlos is just venting

  • @Angrynood
    @Angrynood 3 дні тому

    Certain fans coming out of the woodwork but I'm just excited to see some close racing.

  • @j0ee07
    @j0ee07 3 дні тому

    you couldn't have chosen a better thumbnail for this lmao

  • @MrBritishComedy
    @MrBritishComedy 2 дні тому

    As for Sainz' future, according to Michael Schmidt, who happens to be the most knowledgeable F1 experts with sources in the paddock that are usually right, Audi is probably not an option anymore. They originally wanted to announce that he'll be joining Williams last week already, but now Alpine also seems to be on the mix. This possibly has to do with Briattore's new advisory role at Alpine who understands that Sainz is the best available option on the grid, and if that doesn't pan out, there's also gonna be a testing shootout between Mick Schumacher and Jack Doohan.

  • @MrShadowCZE
    @MrShadowCZE 3 дні тому +1

    3:29 switched strategies between em but whatever :D

  • @Uzair_Of_Babylon465
    @Uzair_Of_Babylon465 3 дні тому

    Great video keep it up you're doing amazing things 😁👍

  • @AudyBharksuwana
    @AudyBharksuwana День тому

    Personally I want to see Carlos at Sauber(Audi) more than I want to see him at Williams, like 60:40. Mostly because of all the promotional stuff I can see them do with like (Saint+Audi)x2 with his dad.
    But I do like the idea of Alex + Carlos at Williams too.

  • @MoGumbo_
    @MoGumbo_ 2 дні тому +1

    Bruh, they have a little argument and yall start acting like the titanic just hit the iceberg

    • @nollienick1121
      @nollienick1121 2 дні тому

      Because it’s against the grids sweetheart Charles. He can’t do anything wrong to them. Like crashing in the lead in open air. He is hyped to shit.

    • @stefan.marsenicc
      @stefan.marsenicc 2 дні тому

      bcs this doesn’t happen the first time? its just the first time Leclerc speaks up about it instead of post race debrief with the team

  • @jackishy1261
    @jackishy1261 2 дні тому

    Don’t forgot it’s after the race and they not had a proper debrief to really discuss the entire thing, you’re also full of adrenaline after to race too

  • @tomcannon5106
    @tomcannon5106 2 дні тому

    You put the wrong tyre graphic up for Lewis and George. Lewis went soft-medium-soft 😅

  • @mnokov2554
    @mnokov2554 3 дні тому +1

    3:35 lommo moment

  • @LegoSnoopDogg
    @LegoSnoopDogg 14 годин тому

    Carlos could become the third F1 driver to have been in Williams, Ferrari and McLaren, with Nigel Mansell and Alain Prost also having done this

  • @neo1711
    @neo1711 3 дні тому

    The street fighter thumbnail man

  • @alifpr
    @alifpr 3 дні тому

    Ah yes the two Ferrari drivers with the gooey UwU bromance, Charlie and Carl.
    Jokes aside, I always appreciate you uploading midweek to save the whole week, Tommo! I agree with your point that Fred was very good in handling the situation post-race, and I love how Bottas is there just chilling while the whole thing was burning down in front of him😂
    OH and I love love love the thumbnail!

  • @FrayedACCL
    @FrayedACCL 2 дні тому

    Bottas just standing there like 👁👄👁
    I love it lmao

  • @drewd2
    @drewd2 3 дні тому

    I would probably go with Audi. Sainz can use the excuse that it's a new project if he doesn't do well, and if he does do well then he'll look really good. It's a really tough decision, though.

  • @flamingburritto
    @flamingburritto 3 дні тому

    Loving the thumbnail ngl. Never ditch the pinkish/salmon background tho. (ps: what exactly is that color called?)

  • @DelaneySeamus
    @DelaneySeamus 2 дні тому

    I dint know why but i freaking love the tire geaohic

  • @bichta2837
    @bichta2837 3 дні тому +1

    you have put the wrong way around tiers on mercedes strategy mate 3:30

  • @jadj2309
    @jadj2309 3 дні тому

    Damn this thumbnail is creative and cold

  • @ArqFad
    @ArqFad 2 дні тому

    Hey Tommo, where can i buy that Ferrari yellow cap??

  • @y_fam_goeglyd
    @y_fam_goeglyd 2 дні тому

    To be honest, they're behaving like a right pair of Charlies at the moment!

  • @lifestyleofadreamer
    @lifestyleofadreamer 2 дні тому

    Vcarp split the strategy too ..

  • @nollienick1121
    @nollienick1121 2 дні тому +1

    He’s gonna be like vettle when he left Ferrari. I still find it funny people want to go to them lol.

  • @MurrayMaunder
    @MurrayMaunder 2 дні тому +1

    Just two bulls going at it, as it's always been in F1. Nothing to see here. Carlos is effectively watching the end of his F1 career coming. He's 29 and having to start again in 2025. It's rather sad as he was a big part of the McLaren revival in 2019/20 and a very good operator. I think he should do a Kimi or Fernando and take a sabbatical, maybe Indy 500 with McLaren.

  • @FunkyKarting
    @FunkyKarting 3 дні тому +1

    Just an inchident

  • @kbswift27
    @kbswift27 3 дні тому

    Makes me sad to see them fight

  • @arjunnair8037
    @arjunnair8037 2 дні тому +1

    New thumbnail who dis?

  • @melissapetzer3560
    @melissapetzer3560 2 дні тому

    I love how Bottas is always there when the tea is hot. My man

  • @ZoRacer
    @ZoRacer 2 дні тому

    Its Chucky vs Chucky now, and I am rooting for Chucky!

  • @isakibrahim8316
    @isakibrahim8316 3 дні тому +10

    Because Carlos knows it’s his last season and he wants to go out with a bang, love that leclerc called him out post race interview

  • @Dark.Valkyrie
    @Dark.Valkyrie 3 дні тому

    I believe the frustration comes bcs they have not the car to fight for podiums or wins after monaco they have been 2 races now that they lost momentum Ferrari fault in my opinion

    • @stefan.marsenicc
      @stefan.marsenicc 2 дні тому

      except Leclerc absolutely had the pace, Ferrari left him out too long in first stint… he was matching Lando in second stint and was on pace with Max in the last stint

  • @davec8921
    @davec8921 2 дні тому +3

    I think they could have a driver problem next year too

  • @DisamerdScroll
    @DisamerdScroll 3 дні тому

    The "what if situation" on Carlos isnt Mcclaren, its Toro Rosso if he stayed there he would have had the call up to the main team when Daniel went to Renault (ironically replacing Carlos at Renault)
    But yeh current situation is just frustration of circunstances, they always have been close in race and quali and tend to be next to each other fairly often and race hard but dont over think the whole situation, emotions are high u gonna say some slight mean stuff then argue with each other and move on
    I mean just this season in china, they had a heated moment and I bet they had a discussion over it afterwards

    • @stefan.marsenicc
      @stefan.marsenicc 2 дні тому

      he was never getting RB seat cause as much political influence his father played in Ferrari, he did so in Torro Rosso, if RB wanted to keep him they wouldn’t let him go lol

  • @MalcolmTann0
    @MalcolmTann0 3 дні тому

    Maybe because Sainz hasn’t got a job for next year

  • @sergeantsupreme4395
    @sergeantsupreme4395 3 дні тому

    We didnt forget you saying Ferrari had the perfect driver lineup btw 😭😭😭

  • @obscuraapit
    @obscuraapit 3 дні тому

    These are grown up adults just giving their opinions, pretty sure neither of them took anything to heart. And I doubt anybody in Ferrari is loosing sleep over this either.

  • @AlexM-mi7kt
    @AlexM-mi7kt 3 дні тому +6

    I mean Charles would do the same, so🤷‍♂️

    • @andriusbruzas9211
      @andriusbruzas9211 3 дні тому +4

      But he does not, though. Whad did he do Singapore last year? Team said 5s gap to Sainz, he had to slow down and invite people in his DRS range, did it.

    • @Wickey934
      @Wickey934 2 дні тому +4

      1. He wouldn't cook his tires at the beginning of the race trying to desparatly pass his teammate
      2. Even if he would the overtake would be cleaner

    • @nollienick1121
      @nollienick1121 2 дні тому

      @@andriusbruzas9211 last year when he didn’t have a seat?

    • @nollienick1121
      @nollienick1121 2 дні тому

      @@Wickey934 he is a pole merchant. Settle down kid

    • @andriusbruzas9211
      @andriusbruzas9211 2 дні тому +1

      @@nollienick1121 Yes, as this never happened last year with Sainz, he surely did not do any naughty stuff then. Monza never happened

  • @TiagoMorbusSa
    @TiagoMorbusSa 2 дні тому

    Squarespace be like "imma give tommo some money"
    Tommo "Carlos Sainz is RUBBISH!!!!"

  • @joshualamp2438
    @joshualamp2438 2 дні тому

    Carlos reacted that way because the interviewer baited him, if he had heard the full statement he likely would have brushed it off.

  • @sofknupbeat
    @sofknupbeat 3 дні тому +30

    Sainz has no reason to be subordinate to Leclerc or to really follow Ferrari's orders anymore. They kicked him to the curb so he is racing for himself now.

    • @luckymo_on
      @luckymo_on 3 дні тому +22

      The kind of attitude that guaranteed no top team wanted him

    • @F1dude.
      @F1dude. 3 дні тому +3

      It makes sense. They kicked him out of the team even though he made less mistakes thsn Charles snd beat him in the championship. He might aswell go for it, the number 1 objective is to best his teammate

    • @Yano5151
      @Yano5151 3 дні тому +6

      That’s a good way of showing future teams that you can work in a collaborative environment

    • @otusthenocturnal187
      @otusthenocturnal187 3 дні тому +14

      ​@@F1dude.He only beat Charles in 2021 (by like 5 points, mind) and has been trailing him in every single metric ever since then.

    • @TommoOnYoutube
      @TommoOnYoutube  3 дні тому +10

      I'd understand that for sure. It's just balancing whether it's worth it or not. Ocon's insubordination with Alpine only makes him look worse as an option elsewhere right?

  • @double10performance27
    @double10performance27 День тому

    Carlos Sainz is a slightly faster Sergio Perez. He almost only wins when better drivers DNF.

  • @furkanalbayrak5129
    @furkanalbayrak5129 3 дні тому +9

    I love how Charles didn’t just talk behind Carlos’ back and actually just confronted him. I’m loving the new spicy Charles.

    • @nollienick1121
      @nollienick1121 2 дні тому

      Yeah. Such a good driver. lol. Pole merchant.

  • @Pricelessmile
    @Pricelessmile 3 дні тому +24

    Sainz isn't a Ferrari driver next year. He is driving for his F1 future so of course he's not going to just bend over and be a good boy. That's what Ferrari have done and have to deal with. I don't blame him at all if he's not the best teammate or team player for the rest of the season

    • @askeladden450
      @askeladden450 3 дні тому +20

      @@Pricelessmile you really think other teams are going to look at that be like: 'yeah we want someone who doesnt give a sh*t about the team when it doesn't suit him'. There is a reason no top team showed any interest in him.

    • @luckymo_on
      @luckymo_on 3 дні тому +8

      Right that makes sense make teams chose u as one of their team members by showing just how much u can not be a team player Great idea there

    • @1greenMitsi
      @1greenMitsi 3 дні тому +2

      @@askeladden450 well you would think other teams interested in his services would focus on the time when he was under contract and not the time when it is clear that he woudlnt be renewed (and not for performance), since incumbent teams will be offering a multi year contract he will revert back to the default team player

    • @Lora_Beolab
      @Lora_Beolab 3 дні тому +4

      but he already has an f1 future, teams have offered him tens of millions of dollars, he just want's to get as much trofees as he can while he still has the car capable of doing so

    • @askeladden450
      @askeladden450 3 дні тому +2

      @@1greenMitsi so in case he plans to leave that team in the future as well, he will waste an entire year of theirs too? And its not like he has a good record in normal circumstances either. He has always ignored team orders. I like that about him, but big teams wont, especially since he isnt as fast as max, charles, or even george or lando.

  • @JJfromIA
    @JJfromIA 2 дні тому +1

    I've said it before and I'll say it again... Unless Ferrari come up with a dominant car that can torch the field, Charles won't be a world champion. He's fast but doesn't have the temperament of a champion.

    • @Wickey934
      @Wickey934 2 дні тому +5

      What made you think that? What do you want from him? 🤡

    • @maite16551
      @maite16551 2 дні тому +5

      I actually think especially Charles has the right temperament for being a world champion, out of all the drivers on the track. He has the right drive and hunger, he's strong willed on track and his skills are worthy of a wdc. I genuinely think, especially after 2022, if Ferrari provide him with a altleast halfway wc worthy car he can will make it. Even Verstappen called him the most likely to be a world champion

    • @nollienick1121
      @nollienick1121 2 дні тому

      I agree. People just hype him up. He is a great driver. But I feel he lacks that killer mindset. I’d like to be proven wrong, but I’m not so sure. And he is at Ferrari 😂

  • @musculusiv4172
    @musculusiv4172 17 годин тому +1

    Whatever Carlos does I hope wont sign anything more than a 1 year deal...

  • @Joserider123
    @Joserider123 2 дні тому

    I think this has been taken too far. Both of them are super competitive drivers and it seems one person is getting more hate than the other. Honestly i really couldn't care less about who gets more hate. I'd rather see both Ferrari drivers get podiums and be free to fight if they have a gap good enough to allow that.
    Team orders have always played a part and disobeying them has been seen as bad, but sometimes its not worth listening to because it'll compromise one driver for the benefit of the other. And in f1, you do not want to be a 2nd class citizen to your teammate.
    Also, seeing people say that carlos disobeyed team orders and yeah even though it is negative and not good, because it gives the impression that you know better than the strategists and engineers. Furthermore, hes already lost his seat and if you anyone knows about having a job, when you leave or quit but still have to come to work, sometimes staff and especially managers will treat you differently and knowing that Ferrari has just dropped Carlos for Hamilton out of nowhere, its clear that hes done with the team and personally i dont blame him. Not having a say about it and just being let go by a team you thought that had your support into the future but doesn't offer a long term deal will frustrate anyone. Keeping the same enthusiasm and drive when your team is just kicking you out shows you like to be played like a fiddle and your oblivious to the whole ordeal.
    Carlos does complain too much sometimes. Like I understand, things dont go your way and his situation on his drive is still being asked, but he has to remain focused and not let his emotions get to him.

  • @bp8__163
    @bp8__163 2 дні тому

    your hamilton russell tire strat is reversed in the graphic