How Kunkka’s Ghostship Actually Works

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  • Опубліковано 23 жов 2023
  • Kunkka's ultimate ability Ghostship has a really interesting mechanic that involves reducing and delaying damage taken. In this video we go over the two buffs it provides, Admiral's Rum and Rum Hangover. We also take a look at an interesting way to make Ghostship invisible for both teams, which is probably a bug.
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  • @spiralingspiral72
    @spiralingspiral72 8 місяців тому +166

    It took me a few months as a kid to realize that the noises from the Ghost Ship aren't people cheering, it's literally an entire crew screaming in their last moments.

    • @kayatoastedd
      @kayatoastedd 8 місяців тому +12

      took me years

    • @sowab909
      @sowab909 8 місяців тому

      😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

    • @wilsonborbaneto3003
      @wilsonborbaneto3003 8 місяців тому +23

      I was today years old when I learned that

    • @boloks124
      @boloks124 8 місяців тому +1

      Insert depressed mr.incredible meme....

    • @Youmu_Konpaku_
      @Youmu_Konpaku_ 8 місяців тому +3

      Yep he crashed his crew as a final attempt to fight tidehunter

  • @DeniZonZ
    @DeniZonZ 8 місяців тому +73

    Even if I already knew how this ability works, your videos are always entertaining, keep up the hard work!

    • @zzadrianzz
      @zzadrianzz  8 місяців тому +3

      Thanks a bunch! :)

  • @zeko2258
    @zeko2258 8 місяців тому +85

    It is invisible because the ship spawns below the map and rides under it.

    • @zzadrianzz
      @zzadrianzz  8 місяців тому +19

      Ahh is that really it? That's interesting but I suppose makes sense. Funny how that works if it's true.

    • @zeko2258
      @zeko2258 8 місяців тому +3

      @@zzadrianzzI read somewhere long ago that dota is coded in such a way that some objects are pre-rendered underneath the map to save resources. So when time comes when it needs to appear, they just pop it up onto the map instead of rendering the pixel necessary for that object. Since Kunkka’s Ghost ship animation is spawned at the same plane as the “undermap” when casted from the edge, the animation just lets it cruise the undermap instead of surfacing. When normally, they would pop it off the undermap onto the actual map before letting it cruise.

  • @joeljoseph4965
    @joeljoseph4965 8 місяців тому +20

    Can you please make a video on how creep aggro actually works or an overall rundown of some basic mechanics of the game like stat bonuses, high ground, aggro, etc

  • @foley4371
    @foley4371 8 місяців тому +5

    Wow . I play kunkka a lot and for once i thought there would be nothing in this video that I don't already know but I was wrong... The actual ghost ship . What a find... Keep up the good work

  • @nanio.6772
    @nanio.6772 7 місяців тому

    just discovered your channel, I've been playing since dota 1 and there are a lot of changes that I don't know about.
    well, I can read update logs but I'm lazy so I rely on videos like yours and the actual gameplay. :)

  • @thewayofrise
    @thewayofrise 8 місяців тому

    Thanks for the information. You really appreciate hangover buff when you play hard support! that reduction damage will save you a lot of time! (Every time I see Ghostship I just run for it xD )

  • @6Unknown_Source9
    @6Unknown_Source9 8 місяців тому

    Great Video as always,
    maybe some Movement Speed info next? something like Turn Speed, Slow Resistance and slow immune

  • @user-bq1xp1ih9z
    @user-bq1xp1ih9z 8 місяців тому +1

    I really love this format. Im here since ember’s fists video. Although, I think you can’t do much content from this format in long term as a creator, I still love it, I learned so much actually.
    P.s. sry for probably bad grammar

  • @ferryxhidayat
    @ferryxhidayat 8 місяців тому +4

    Thanks for the video
    I play a lot of Kunkka, and i got 2 people so far, complained that my ult is "killing" them. Hope they see this video

    • @myonionsmatter7843
      @myonionsmatter7843 7 місяців тому

      Yeah it’s funny, it’s real life concept of not feeling pain if you think about it.

  • @xerxesmontes9828
    @xerxesmontes9828 8 місяців тому +28

    So THAT's why ana survived in ti8. . .

    • @doctor_sako
      @doctor_sako 8 місяців тому

      Actually not, kunkka was in the enemy team 🤣 he survived coz of the flaming guard (third ember spirit spell)

    • @kayne7380
      @kayne7380 8 місяців тому +19

      ​@@doctor_sakothe ghost ship was stolen by a rubick on OG

    • @doctor_sako
      @doctor_sako 8 місяців тому

      @@kayne7380ah sorry, my bad

    • @user-th2cp8uh8r
      @user-th2cp8uh8r 8 місяців тому +11

      ​@@doctor_sakojerax was rubick, and stole the ghost ship that's why

    • @bickdig511
      @bickdig511 8 місяців тому +2

      @@doctor_sako jerax rubick stole the ghost ship. without it ana would die , flaming guard is not enough to survive. He cast alot of spell and arcane curse duration is increased

  • @kregitos9
    @kregitos9 8 місяців тому +4

    "Now that was a fail boat"
    This line is confusing, the buff itself is probably the strongest part of the spell, think about it bristleback takes 40% less damage from back this is even more, for the whole team potentially.
    Yes, you take the dmg later, but most fights can be over at that point.

  • @BigDBrian
    @BigDBrian 8 місяців тому

    There's some spots on the map that are way below the rest, maybe you can spawn a ship from them and have it be 'invisible' too

  • @Biit88121
    @Biit88121 8 місяців тому +1

    My favorit combo since dota 1 „normal pick“ on sentinel…
    Kunkha+sven.. (the stormhammer into torrent boat…) and then the boat +warcry buff makes em just max movespeed and like 90%physic dmg reduce..

  • @eZARZ13
    @eZARZ13 8 місяців тому

    Love your vids, Gj

  • @_HaSSaaN_
    @_HaSSaaN_ 5 місяців тому

    Kunkka is my most successful hero of all time. Thanks for making this video

  • @eggmanrulz
    @eggmanrulz 8 місяців тому +1

    Can the damage from the hangover tick be reduced by damage reduction from pipe or crimson?

  • @sammyd5098
    @sammyd5098 8 місяців тому +1

    The old kunka aghs made using ult really confusing.

  • @jeffz870
    @jeffz870 8 місяців тому +1

    Can you do ogres multicast next? It has some weird inconsist effects with lens

  • @patrickj.pilardiaz3849
    @patrickj.pilardiaz3849 8 місяців тому

    another W from Adrian ;)

  • @munafa23
    @munafa23 8 місяців тому

    THANK YOU SO MUCH HOPE U GRANTED HEAVEN!!!

  • @m136dalie
    @m136dalie 8 місяців тому

    That last one was kinda cool

  • @Hiarin
    @Hiarin 8 місяців тому

    I just saw Yatoro picking Martyr's plate on Spectre, do you know how that interact with dispersion? is all the damage redirected by martyr's plate get dispersed?

  • @moomoon974
    @moomoon974 8 місяців тому

    can you explain slark's passive for next video?

  • @expertluck566
    @expertluck566 8 місяців тому +1

    Im a top 20sh kunkka with thousands of games and I didn't know how buffs from multiple ships interact lul

  • @farizdanialz
    @farizdanialz 8 місяців тому

    Hi zzAdrianzz. I play a lot of Necro aghs recently. And i found out the build is quite OP especially late game comeback. I watch the replay and combat log, but still didnt understand how does the Aghs remove the HP so drastically. Can you explain it. (Sorry my english not so good)

  • @TwistOfTransistor
    @TwistOfTransistor 8 місяців тому +2

    One of the coolest ultis on any moba

  • @dankvada4588
    @dankvada4588 8 місяців тому

    great stuff as always. i wish you digged into the timings of kunkkas spells as well

  • @acceleratingthesupernatural
    @acceleratingthesupernatural 8 місяців тому

    Excellent content my man. I hope you make it in this UA-cam game

  • @daryl9892
    @daryl9892 8 місяців тому

    the most lowkey op skill rn

  • @varlsenjoyer
    @varlsenjoyer 8 місяців тому

    Wow 😮i love it

  • @benjamingeorge8241
    @benjamingeorge8241 4 місяці тому

    Does anyone know if Valve patched out the invisible Ghost Ship trick or is it still there in the game?

  • @vegetablebirdgmail1493
    @vegetablebirdgmail1493 7 місяців тому

    very GOOD, i didnt even know, no wonder , i tried to kill kunka and I realized i could never kill him, im so confused as what ameks him suddently so tanky

  • @bLu_3
    @bLu_3 8 місяців тому +1

    requesting for spirit breaker shard

  • @jaapgerritsen84
    @jaapgerritsen84 8 місяців тому

    Mayb you can dissect IO in a new video? One of my favorite heroes, hard to play and alot unknown. Can you?

  • @devinsiriwardena7296
    @devinsiriwardena7296 8 місяців тому

    It went well.

  • @toqnxzz
    @toqnxzz 8 місяців тому

    periodic damage from intoxication of the same type as dealt or magical?

  • @DominicXThienohazard
    @DominicXThienohazard 8 місяців тому

    ok this makes me taking kunkka as a spellcaster no longer a carry.

  • @prostomaxym
    @prostomaxym 8 місяців тому +1

    Damage delay is very similar to how monk's stagger works in wow.

    • @orven_lou
      @orven_lou 8 місяців тому +1

      Maybe bcos it's the inspiration of the rum hangover buff.

  • @ZurinArctus0
    @ZurinArctus0 8 місяців тому +2

    this is why Armlet of Mordigian was OP/Broken for kunkka back then because the damage delay was 50% or more if I recall correctly and while using armlet with right timing make kunkka basically hard to kill early game

  • @brandonlow8942
    @brandonlow8942 8 місяців тому

    Been playing for 15 years and never even know how ghost ship works! Good explanation

  • @WesleiMB
    @WesleiMB 8 місяців тому +1

    I didn't even knew kunkka ult had a passive

  • @tacogodboomdogg
    @tacogodboomdogg 8 місяців тому +1

    I forgot if you mentioned if the rum could be purged.

  • @ayatoshintaro7565
    @ayatoshintaro7565 8 місяців тому

    Did they change the rum? I remember the rum gets applied to all nearby ally the moment it gets casted or maybe i remembered it wrong

  • @Pmon21
    @Pmon21 8 місяців тому

    underated buff: sure it will nerf next patch.
    so it's best to abuse this delay mechanics with mordigan. too op at early

  • @BronzeHead
    @BronzeHead 8 місяців тому +3

    I'm like immortal and didn't know how rum worked lol, I thought it was a big flat dmg reduction, not just delaying 40% of dmg, that's crazy, especially the rum hangover not being lethal

  • @reiros
    @reiros 8 місяців тому

    ive been playing dota for more than a decade and i don't even know this!

  • @ThatLampTho
    @ThatLampTho 8 місяців тому

    After over a decade i find out from this video that the damage after the rum is non-lethal. I always wondered why they don't die 💀

    • @mr.nobody896
      @mr.nobody896 8 місяців тому

      Same. I thought it only delayed the dmg. Never knew the delayed dmg didn't kill.

  • @KaworuGG
    @KaworuGG 8 місяців тому

    Never seen a single failure on Stream. RTZ bless is real

  • @DrJimmable
    @DrJimmable 8 місяців тому

    Maybe I'm stupid, but I didn't get the multiple ships part. When the buff from the second ship is applied, does it refresh all memorized damage too?
    For instance, I get the first buff, take 55 pure damage (45 will be dealt later), then I get the buff from the 2nd ship. Will these 45 points be dealt? And if so, will they be dealt after the second buff ends, or when the first one was supposed to end?
    I really hope you understand all that, sorry

    • @JetFiiire
      @JetFiiire 8 місяців тому +2

      It's the second option you said.
      It works just like your average weekend: you're drunk for 10 seconds, so you only feel half the damage done to you. If you get drunk again halfway through, it simply delays the hangover phase by another 10 seconds.
      Then 10 seconds after you stopped drinking your last rum (Dota heroes have very fast metabolisms it seems), you will sober up and suddenly feel every damage you have taken while drunk.
      Moral of the story: stay drunk

    • @N-MT
      @N-MT 8 місяців тому +1

      Tested this, when the buff got refreshed, the damage will still be accumulated, not dealt. Assuming you have the ghost fleet talent(making it possible for the buff to last 20-30 sec), the damage you taken will still be accumulated and got dealt later after the buff ends(10 seconds). Also worth to note the damage dealt by the rum can't get reduced when you got another rum damage reduction buff(for instance when you refresh and cast it again later).

    • @DrJimmable
      @DrJimmable 8 місяців тому

      Thanks for the explanation, guys. Gotta go store some rum then

  • @prince11338
    @prince11338 8 місяців тому +1

    Ofcourse if you still have a DoT applied besides the non-lethal ghostship, you can still die

  • @user-xj3hc9oz8z
    @user-xj3hc9oz8z 8 місяців тому

    Noob here. How is muerta a good support in this patch?

  • @kelvinong1908
    @kelvinong1908 8 місяців тому

    How does wrath king skeletons work? Sometimes i press it but thrs no skeleton coming out😂

    • @okasudewa5050
      @okasudewa5050 8 місяців тому

      You get 1 skeleton charge for every 2 enemies you kill, so if you don't have the skeleton charge or just killed 1 enemy after you take the skill, the skeleton won't spawn as you have no skeleton charge

    • @ManuelRodriguez-po1bu
      @ManuelRodriguez-po1bu 8 місяців тому

      I don't think you need a video for that, have you tried reading the tooltip of the ability?

  • @kf_isher1149
    @kf_isher1149 8 місяців тому

    asdf

  • @user-hl7ls9mt4e
    @user-hl7ls9mt4e 8 місяців тому

    WOW I DIDNT KNEW THAT EVEN THO IM IMMORTAL 6K. I thought kunkka ulti deal half the percent of the damage that dealt on enemy on me