@@Aussie27Legend It has always seemed strange to me that priests do not marry in Catholic and Protestant environments... In Orthodoxy, most priests have wives.
@@user-dk3pp2hj3v Well in all Protestant churches priests absolutely do marry in fact (Lutheran, Presbyterian, Baptist, Methodist...). On the other hand, in Orthodox and Oriental churches bishops must be celibate.
You don’t have to be female to instantly known David is a bad guy. The introduction of David is a sene where David is preaching the Gospel. It’s Hollywood… Christian community = bad : communist community = good
David is the ultimate villain. The actor they chose for the role absolutely nailed it. Even some of his speech patterns and mannerisms come directly from the game.
That's why I love them, it's a horrific and traumatic moment for Ellie, and we're supposed to feel bad that she's having to do something so gruesome for survival and as a response to trauma. We are watching her go on and on, so much longer than what was needed because she is going trough something so awful. I cried for her the entire time. I don't get why some people enjoy that and cheer her on.
@@CatinaLeon watching her kill him always makes me cry for her. Especially how she slows down and then gets a second wind and spends up in her attacks. Its pure emotion and instinct born from the trauma. It's one of the saddest things in the game/show. It is the end of her childhood essentially. She is never really a 'kid' again after that. It's a very sad moment.
Right? I've never been happy or excited during that scene, so it feels weird watching people whoop and cheer when they see it. It really makes me sad she had to go through that, and Bella Ramsey's performance especially has me in a trance every time I watch it. It's so chilling.
yes! i love watching people react to this show, and david definitely deserved it...but some of them get on my nerves when they're like cheering and yelling while she's killing him. i'm always in my room shushing them through the screen because i don't really find it to be a "hurrah" moment for her lol. ellie was 100% petrified and in the fight of fight of flight mode. it also must be so traumatizing to have to be that violent and kill someone like that.
i loved that they knew how to show an abusive person, by him hitting the girl, and then placing his hand for HER TO REACH to get back up. DISGUSTING, but pretty real.
FYI! Venison is deer meat, that one guy just called it venison because only a few people know they were eating people and he didn't want to lie but couldn't tell the truth. You're correct the preacher was sexually assaulting his followers, specifically the young girls like the one who lost her father. And a fun fact! The guy who gets stabbed in the neck by Ellie when she was on the table was played by Troy Baker aka Joel from the game!
@@SayGahTaah yeah that's because its meaning being all game animals dropped out of primary use before you were born. That doesn't change that originally it was all game animals. The usage evolved over time.
Troy Baker (James) was actually the voice actor who played Joel on the game. They actually hunt human too for food. That's what they were doing when they found Joel and Ellie. That's why they run after them. They had a code for it too: Venison: human male Elk: human female Rabbit: human child James said at the beginning "they spotted some deer a couple miles east", he was talking about Joel. When you watch the episode again knowing the code it's very creepy. They talked in code so much that when David told James to get medicine for Ellie, he had to tell him that it "wasn't code". That he actually meant that.
What I like about "Last of Us" is that Ellie saved herself when everyone expected Joel to come and save her. She had to commit a horrific act to save herself, but she did it herself in this brutal world.
Joel doesn't save her physically, but he swoops in and saves her emotionally at a vital moment. She might have walked into the forest to freeze to death, who knows.
The ending puts so many scenes that happened earlier into an entirely different perspective. When they first meet at the deer and he tells James to go get the meds, James wasn't concerned for David's safety. He was concerned what he'd do to her. Then when they start hunting Ellie/Joel down David says to bring her back with them. James looks at David funny and pretty much knows. Then James proceeds to try shooting a downed Ellie. This was a mercy ending because he knows what David was going to do to her. Some nice subtle hints throughout.
I think you are giving him too much credit. He doesn't care what happens to Ellie and in fact he wants her dead because she is with Joel who killed a member of their cult. Its that simple. He doesn't give a rats ass about who David is abusing because if he did he wouldn't be following him. You say he was worried about leaving Ellie with David to get the medicine but again no. If that was the case when he got back he wouldn't have been about to kill Ellie before David told him to lower the gun. Cult members who follow Charismatic leaders like David convince themselves that what that leader wants is right and justified so in most cases where abuse happens they turn a blind eye to it or just plain don't care and these people were far more worried about survival than about sexual abuse...they were eating people ffs so their moral compass is definitely askew.
This could not be more incorrect… Listen to the behind-the-scenes podcast featuring the two show runners and Troy Baker (who played James). It out-right disproves everything you’re saying.
I think you're really reaching with that one.. The more obvious reason for James' concern/hesitation is that he immediately recognizes that Ellie (with Joel) is the girl they were told about that killed their friend.. Also, there is no sign at all that James has any care for Ellie's wellbeing. So this mercy theory of yours is bogus..
11:52 wondering if they'll see a town that resorts to cannibalism... Ask and you shall receive. Also 51:43 Don't you just hate it when you run out of toilet paper after having human flesh for dinner?
Finally reactors who didn't cheer when she kills him. I had the same thought - "I'm so sorry." What a horrible thing to have to do - even if he did deserve it.
As someone who played the game I loved the show! They stayed pretty faithful and I can understand many of the diversions. Worst case scenario if I don’t like it I just go back and watch the game, but that didn’t really happen.
my exact thoughts. this was such an exemplary video game adaptation. i hear complaints that there was less action but the game had ot for gameplay pirposes and wouldnt fit the show
Generally the best video game adaptation I've seen, thanks for them staying true to the source material. My only real issues were the pacing and the lack of infected. In the game there's just so much more time bonding with Ellie and exploring the world, which I feel felt a little flat and I also would've liked to see that Tess backstory that they had to cut out. And the amount of infected in the game show you so much better how fucked up the world actually is. In the show it almost doesn't feel that bad, which unfortunately makes the Fireflies and even FEDRA look worse than they are because it sort of undermines their efforts and decisions.
@@Dark__Thoughts Both Fireflies and FEDRA don't want to save the world... they both want to have power. FEDRA, having old stocks of weapons, could kill all infected people on the planet many times.
since the start, bella ramsey has evidently, and effortlessly, proved just how phenomenal she is as ellie williams - every episode continues to prove that, and i truly and genuinely hope that ‘the last of us’ leads her to the emmy because she deserve it! ❤
I just played the first game again and she's really just as good as Ashley. And has her own unique personality with the character too which is similar but not a copy of game Ellie
@@babyfood9537 Yeah, both did great jobs and I love that she didn't totally emulate Ashley either. Two different versions of the same story, both of them great. I find it kind of fun that Bella and Ashley look quite similar!
@eldrafn yeah. The games are my favourite of all time, but even then I think I prefer the route they took the characters in the show. Ellie being portrayed more like a kid/innocent in the show and Joel being extremely empathetic towards her after her "first" kill were really good touches. In the game Joel doesn't say a word to her about how she feels after she's forced to kill the guy who's about to kill him. He just blows up at her about her not listening to him :( and yeah it's cool how they look similar lol Ashley playing Anna in the show was a sweet touch
what i loved the most about that final scene of ellie going to town on the creepo, is that they made it long enough, so they people that would be chanting and cheering her up for killing this man, also realize she's a 14 years old girl, that was about to get assaulted, and had to get herself through it. A FOURTEEN YEARS OLD. cause we got so desensitized to violence as people, from the amount we see on the regular, not only on the media we consume, but also regular life. people making billions over movies with super gory violence and people chanting over it every time.
The Last of Us Part 1 and 2 are my favorite games ever. I loved this show. It was such an amazing adaptation. It honored the original story so well while giving us a lot of brand new perspectives and possibilities.
RIP Callus the horse They didn't say his name in the show, but that's supposed to be Callus, the horse Joel & Ellie rode in the games. Also, Game Joel didn't like the name that Ellie chose for the horse and he would often complain about it. Now, in the show, Troy Baker (plays James in the show, and plays Joel in the game) gets revenge by shooting Callus in the show lol
Ellie is picking up Joel's mannerisms - saying "Buddy Boy" just like Joel says "your buddy" during the interrogation scene. I love their relationship so much 😭😭❤😂 I agree Milena that they hunt people. They went to a University to hunt animals?? No. They were there for people, they went to kill Joel immediately with no hesitation.
I've seen reactors who haven't played the game give David the benefit of the doubt in the beginning so I love how you immediately said "He's evil" at David that moment you saw him 🤣🤣
In latin "venari" means "to hunt" and then "venatio" for "hunting"; in Old French "venesoun" and in English it was "venison" which was originally used for the meat of any game animal, including rabbits, hares, boars, goats, and ibex. Nowadays, it's used only for the meat of antlered ungulates. I still like to use the word as it originally meant to, even if you hunt a bird, that's still a venison for me, tho I never ate any hunted meat before.
@@gracehiggins2666 well fair enough, it's not that common here either when I think about it. But reindeer meat is available in almost all stores. But I guess it's not that "wild" as they usually are in free roaming herds. But elk and deer can be bought via market places, from farms around the country and so on. Hunting of wild animals is also quite strictly regulated in Norway, it's important that animals aren't hunted to extinction. But it's also important that the herds don't grow to large and experience a collapse.
One thing I would suggest is that, after finish this season, do well the brace yourself from the possible spoilers for the next seasons. It's gonna be hard to do as the games came out several years ago and the videos are all around social media. I have seen quite a few reactors already that kinda avoid all the spoilers throughout season 1 just to get spoiled for the seasons to come afterwads.
Reactors should just pretend TLOU is not even a thing and avoid to look for absolutely anything related to the show/game on google, youtube and stuff..if they don't want to get spoiled..but it's almost impossible to avoid spoilers tbh, especially if you think that we will have to wait YEARS for season 2..most reactors will get spoiled before the next season will be out and many of them will not tell us and will just pretend it didn't happen and that it's a completely blind reaction lol
Welcome to Sliver Lake. Here, "EVERYTHING HAPPENS FOR A REASON". ----- The look on both your faces was PRICELESS!!!!! ------ To see both your eyes drop in pure terror that was intense for sure. Great reaction. Loved it.
Such a fantastic episode, Winter is my favourite part of the game and I'm sure alot of the fans feel the same, it shows just how much Joel and Ellie fight for each other, they need each other and I think the show did a great job capturing that.
The scenery in this show is a credit to Canada. It's filmed in Alberta. Calgary for most of the city settings, Canmore for Jackson and other rural settings.
11:32 Fun fact, James (the guy on the left) is the actor that plays Joel in the game (voice and motion caption "mocap" actor), I've scrolled through the comment and was surprised that nobody mentioned it...
As a player of both games, it is an excellent adaptation. I couldn't ask for a better job adapting one of my most consequential games I've ever played.
As mentioned by others, Bellie basically cleaved game Joel in this episode. In the next one you'll also see game Ellie's actress, Ashley Johnson, in probably the best & most poetic scene in the entire show. It will also feature another voice actress, Laura Bailey, which plays a minor role & character in there, just as in the first game (a few random NPCs basically), but she plays a major character in the second game.
I played the game nine years ago & I still remember my shock when I found out the true nature of these people & their "diet choices" 😅 Also, I love how they brought back voice actors from the game to play certain roles in the show, like Tommy's VA, Joel, & Ellie were all in the show.
This was my favorite reaction I have seen you do of any show. The investment you have in the characters and your expressions were priceless. You girls are great and I look forward to the finale with you.
One of the very few reactors who's sadness for Ellie overshadowed their satisfaction with David's death. Honestly don't understand how someone could watch that scene and be hyped up cheering, "Hell yeah get him get him!" Does David deserve what he got, absolutely 100%, but the scene isn't triumphant. It's bleak and terrifying. It's supposed to make you sad that a little girl is put into a situation where she's forced to be this brutal to get away from these monsters.
I can understand either way. It just depends on which feeling is strongest, really. Sympathy for Ellie or the need for "justice" for lack of a better word. I don't think most people who are cheering for Ellie don't feel bad for her also. They're just happier to see her defend herself than they are sad for her trauma. But I'm sure both feelings are there. I can't watch the end of the episode and I couldn't play this part of the game myself. I had to rely just on people summarizing it for me. But if I could actually watch the scene, I think I would probably be happier to see David punished. I know that many survivors of SA/CSA were praising the writers for having Ellie save herself rather than having Joel show up to help, because they found it cathartic to see a victim save herself in a way that many of us couldn't (but wish we could have). It was important to a lot of us that it worked out that way. Unfortunately, not all of us are in a strong enough mental state to watch that sort of thing to receive that catharsis. But I understand the need of some people to see David get what's coming to him being the strongest feeling in that moment. It's not because they don't feel bad for Ellie or see the tragedy of what she went through; my heart goes out to ANYONE who has ever been assaulted in that way to any degree. It's a trauma I wouldn't wish on ANYONE.
I have seen many reactions and your's was the best. Finally people who realize how traumatic that was for Ellie to go through. I love your thoughts and insights. Thank you.
I loved the little detail of how the writers gave Ellie the same line as tess "our luck had to run out sooner or later" just to honor her character maybe. Or maybe it's just Ellie quoting tess as she misses her dearly.
In the game, the complete dialogue Ellie says when encountering Joel, is "He... He tried to..." and then Joel interrupts I believe either with more dialogue or with the hug. I think the way it was portrayed in the series is magnificent and very much clear, I just wanted to add this detail from the game because I think it to be particularly efficient in bringing home the whole point of cannibalism not only as a literal plot route, but also as a metaphor to the kind of abuse David was planning on carrying out with Ellie... I mean, the whole fight as well as their interactions were heavily sexually connotated and that's both disgusting and excellent in the ways it plays into Ellie's character build-up.
Antelope Canyon is in Arizona but it is very close to Utah. The two famous parks in Utah are Bryce and Zion. You may have been at one of those. All stunningly beautiful places.
32:39 haha her reaction was pure gold. For this episode I just feel they should've switch to the music of the game when Ellie chops David, which is a bit sadder rather than tense, It sends a clearer message of "look what she had to do in order to survive in this world", which is actually the reason why the camara points at her and not David. That said I loved this episode, it was fantastic.
Venison originally meant the meat of a game animal but now refers primarily to the meat of antlered ungulates such as elk or deer. Venison can be used to refer to any part of the animal, so long as it is edible, including the internal organs
Interesting fact. In English the meat of certain animals has a different name to the animal themselves. Beef and Cow, Pork and Pig, Venison and Deer, Mutton and Sheep. This is because in the 11th Century after the Normans invaded England most of the upper class spoke French. These were the people eating most of the high quality meat, so the name for the meat is derived from the French word for the animals. But most of the people tending to the farms and the livestock were Saxon and spoke old English. Thus the names of the animals is derived from a Saxon word for the animals. Anyway, great reaction. Glad your enjoying the show.
And you’re also correct that venison is deer meat (it can also be some other types of Game meat, but generally it’s deer). They were just lying about what the meat they were eating was.
Been waiting for you to get to this episode, you starting with "when are we getting to cannibalism". You caught on to everything. Ellie was a fighter and was one hell of scene.
Fun fact the actor who plays James is Troy Baker. Troy also was the voice of Greed in Full Metal Alchemist Brotherhood series you both recently finished watching.
Also, if he didn't kill the guys he "interrogated", they would have come after him once they free themselves. He couldn't risk that especially how weak he was.
Fun fact about this episode, Troy Baker is in this episode, also known as Joel in the videogame. I really love that in this series they did some easter eggs like Tommy's VA appeared, in this episode Joel's VA is here and more to come later.
Every forking show dammit. Lola you beautiful smartass. Always figuring or predicting shit out right from the get go. Even in this episode. "He looks evil", "I wonder when we're gonna see a town that went towards cannibalism?". From AOT, FMA, everything else to TLOU. You guys are always on point, aware and attentive. That's why I consider this the best reaction channel. You guys got the best reactions, empathy, humane, intelligent and good freaking theories. Other reactors pale in comparison. 👍🌻😌
As a long time fan of the games, I can say that they did a beautiful job adapting the story to television. They did remove a great deal of the action sequences, but for good reason: to focus on the characters, and make sure that the action that *is* there enhances the story. What we get is a more streamlined story, with honestly a bit more heart: Pascal's Joel is more deeply nuanced in his presentation, the Bill/Frank story was completely constructed for the show. Basically, the changes that were made were smart, and everything that needed to be the same, are nearly identical, sometimes shot-for-shot. I couldn't be happier with how they have done this, and I don't know how I'll be able to make it the 18 months (or however long) for the second season!
You’re right, it is penultimate. So if you said, “We are on the penultimate episode of the season” it would be the same as saying second to last episode.
There's a bit of a theory that some of the higher level people in the group knew/had suspicions about David being a MASSIVE creep. They wanted to spare Ellie from that fate, that's why they were about to shoot her. You'll see that they don't look particularly happy about it when they surround Ellie.
Venison refers to the meat of antlered animals like Deer or Elk (Antelope in South Africa), etc. I think you both missed the ear that Ellie saw on the floor in the room she was kept in. That's why she kicked the food away. The cannibalism was a regular thing.
Bella is such an incredible actress ... I'm so impressed! And I was one of the sceptical fans of the game. Since the game Ellie is one of my favorite game characters evers. And Bella nailed it in every scene
You all are always welcome here in our state of Colorado! We love visitors, and aren’t actually full of crazy cults😅 Just beautiful mountains and good people 🙂
You two called ellie baby girl so much this episode I almost forgot that joel did it too 😭😭😂
Why does it say 3 weeks ago when they just uploaded it?
@@axirriaa i’d like to know too
@@axirriaa they upload the episodes early for patreon subs
@@gran456 no one is even talking about the video game so i’m not sure how this is relevant
@@damimami5144 right 😭
"Joel's gonna provide. What is he gonna provide? MURDER!" 🤣
Dave Venison. He was a great man. A great, tasty man.
He was always game
They kept joking about cannibalism without realizing they were cannibals
Actually his name was Alex venison. Common mistake.
he stabbed Joel though, so maybe not that great.
A man with great taste👌
People theorize that the henchman who wanted to kill Ellie rather than capture her suspected or knew why the preacher wanted her alive, and I agree.
good take imo
That’s a good one! I heard another one that they just wanted…venison.
@@Cristinas_watching They wanted to kill her to spare her from sexual abuse... they were so weak-willed that they couldn't say it to his face.
Well he was Joel in the game
I like that theory
"He looks evil" - well that didn't take long for them to figure him out haha
The poor actor haha. Imagine that’s you and someone is like your face gives me evil vibes
The great thing about this scene is how we all expect joel to come through at any second but it doesn’t happen
How does your comment say 3 weeks ago when the video just released o:
@@KaonashiSen patreon
@@bluebaconjake405 ahhh. Makes sense
Also because in the game Joel arrives and he is the one to stop Ellie
@@bluebaconjake405 thx
I love how all the female reactors I’ve watched on this episode, instantly knew something wasn’t right with David lol
unsure if a condemnation on religion but most reactors are immediately on the wrong foot as soon as he starts monologuing the bible lol
They just assume all men are evil, and sometimes they're right
@@Aussie27Legend It has always seemed strange to me that priests do not marry in Catholic and Protestant environments... In Orthodoxy, most priests have wives.
@@user-dk3pp2hj3v Well in all Protestant churches priests absolutely do marry in fact (Lutheran, Presbyterian, Baptist, Methodist...). On the other hand, in Orthodox and Oriental churches bishops must be celibate.
You don’t have to be female to instantly known David is a bad guy. The introduction of David is a sene where David is preaching the Gospel. It’s Hollywood… Christian community = bad : communist community = good
37:14 Love after he said "baby girl" we can see his broken watch. 😢
David is the ultimate villain. The actor they chose for the role absolutely nailed it. Even some of his speech patterns and mannerisms come directly from the game.
You two were the only ones I've seen that didnt celebrate her killing David. Clearly meant to be a traumatic moment.
That's why I love them, it's a horrific and traumatic moment for Ellie, and we're supposed to feel bad that she's having to do something so gruesome for survival and as a response to trauma. We are watching her go on and on, so much longer than what was needed because she is going trough something so awful. I cried for her the entire time. I don't get why some people enjoy that and cheer her on.
@@CatinaLeon watching her kill him always makes me cry for her. Especially how she slows down and then gets a second wind and spends up in her attacks. Its pure emotion and instinct born from the trauma. It's one of the saddest things in the game/show. It is the end of her childhood essentially. She is never really a 'kid' again after that. It's a very sad moment.
Right? I've never been happy or excited during that scene, so it feels weird watching people whoop and cheer when they see it. It really makes me sad she had to go through that, and Bella Ramsey's performance especially has me in a trance every time I watch it. It's so chilling.
Killing him is one thing, she eviscerated his head
yes! i love watching people react to this show, and david definitely deserved it...but some of them get on my nerves when they're like cheering and yelling while she's killing him. i'm always in my room shushing them through the screen because i don't really find it to be a "hurrah" moment for her lol. ellie was 100% petrified and in the fight of fight of flight mode. it also must be so traumatizing to have to be that violent and kill someone like that.
i loved that they knew how to show an abusive person, by him hitting the girl, and then placing his hand for HER TO REACH to get back up. DISGUSTING, but pretty real.
yep, yuck
Milena covering her ears but still watching Ellie inject the meds is just too perfect
FYI! Venison is deer meat, that one guy just called it venison because only a few people know they were eating people and he didn't want to lie but couldn't tell the truth. You're correct the preacher was sexually assaulting his followers, specifically the young girls like the one who lost her father. And a fun fact! The guy who gets stabbed in the neck by Ellie when she was on the table was played by Troy Baker aka Joel from the game!
Venison is any game meat. It has been more commonly associated with deer/elk meat, but it is any game meat.
@@cliveklg7739 never heard anything other than elk or deer be called venison.
@@SayGahTaah yeah that's because its meaning being all game animals dropped out of primary use before you were born. That doesn't change that originally it was all game animals. The usage evolved over time.
How is venison deer meat. It is pretty clearly shown that it was the girl's father
@@himanshu9418Venison was the child's father
Troy Baker (James) was actually the voice actor who played Joel on the game.
They actually hunt human too for food. That's what they were doing when they found Joel and Ellie. That's why they run after them. They had a code for it too:
Venison: human male
Elk: human female
Rabbit: human child
James said at the beginning "they spotted some deer a couple miles east", he was talking about Joel. When you watch the episode again knowing the code it's very creepy. They talked in code so much that when David told James to get medicine for Ellie, he had to tell him that it "wasn't code". That he actually meant that.
What I like about "Last of Us" is that Ellie saved herself when everyone expected Joel to come and save her. She had to commit a horrific act to save herself, but she did it herself in this brutal world.
She saved herself _PHYSICALLY,_ but Joel saved her at the end of the episode in a different way.
27:54 RIP Alec Venison
Joel doesn't save her physically, but he swoops in and saves her emotionally at a vital moment. She might have walked into the forest to freeze to death, who knows.
The ending puts so many scenes that happened earlier into an entirely different perspective. When they first meet at the deer and he tells James to go get the meds, James wasn't concerned for David's safety. He was concerned what he'd do to her. Then when they start hunting Ellie/Joel down David says to bring her back with them. James looks at David funny and pretty much knows. Then James proceeds to try shooting a downed Ellie. This was a mercy ending because he knows what David was going to do to her. Some nice subtle hints throughout.
I think you are giving him too much credit. He doesn't care what happens to Ellie and in fact he wants her dead because she is with Joel who killed a member of their cult. Its that simple. He doesn't give a rats ass about who David is abusing because if he did he wouldn't be following him.
You say he was worried about leaving Ellie with David to get the medicine but again no. If that was the case when he got back he wouldn't have been about to kill Ellie before David told him to lower the gun.
Cult members who follow Charismatic leaders like David convince themselves that what that leader wants is right and justified so in most cases where abuse happens they turn a blind eye to it or just plain don't care and these people were far more worried about survival than about sexual abuse...they were eating people ffs so their moral compass is definitely askew.
According to Troy, James primary motivation for shooting Ellie was he didn't want competition for his position as David's second in command.
This could not be more incorrect… Listen to the behind-the-scenes podcast featuring the two show runners and Troy Baker (who played James). It out-right disproves everything you’re saying.
I think you're really reaching with that one..
The more obvious reason for James' concern/hesitation is that he immediately recognizes that Ellie (with Joel) is the girl they were told about that killed their friend..
Also, there is no sign at all that James has any care for Ellie's wellbeing. So this mercy theory of yours is bogus..
Fun fact, the actor who played James is the original voice & motion captor actor for Joel in the game!
Troy Baker
11:52 wondering if they'll see a town that resorts to cannibalism... Ask and you shall receive.
Also 51:43 Don't you just hate it when you run out of toilet paper after having human flesh for dinner?
One little detail is that Ellie only managed to reach the cleaver because David released one hand to undo his pants. So yeah it came back to bite him.
I need a compilation of Milena clapping her hands when something frustrating or bad happens, I love it :D
Milena's reaction to Zaheer in Legend of Korra is my all time favorite... Milena was so hyped up she was ready to throw hands 😂
@@WorldsPhamous which episode
@@chrisbade2119 Zaheer's first episode
"When we are in need he shall provide.... YOU KNOW WHO'S HE? JOEL. AND WHAT'S HE GONNA PROVIDE? MURDER."
LMFAOOOO i fucking love you guys hahahaha
Finally reactors who didn't cheer when she kills him. I had the same thought - "I'm so sorry." What a horrible thing to have to do - even if he did deserve it.
As someone who played the game I loved the show! They stayed pretty faithful and I can understand many of the diversions. Worst case scenario if I don’t like it I just go back and watch the game, but that didn’t really happen.
my exact thoughts. this was such an exemplary video game adaptation. i hear complaints that there was less action but the game had ot for gameplay pirposes and wouldnt fit the show
I totally agree with you guys
Generally the best video game adaptation I've seen, thanks for them staying true to the source material.
My only real issues were the pacing and the lack of infected. In the game there's just so much more time bonding with Ellie and exploring the world, which I feel felt a little flat and I also would've liked to see that Tess backstory that they had to cut out. And the amount of infected in the game show you so much better how fucked up the world actually is. In the show it almost doesn't feel that bad, which unfortunately makes the Fireflies and even FEDRA look worse than they are because it sort of undermines their efforts and decisions.
@@Dark__Thoughts 🇷🇺
@@Dark__Thoughts Both Fireflies and FEDRA don't want to save the world... they both want to have power. FEDRA, having old stocks of weapons, could kill all infected people on the planet many times.
since the start, bella ramsey has evidently, and effortlessly, proved just how phenomenal she is as ellie williams - every episode continues to prove that, and i truly and genuinely hope that ‘the last of us’ leads her to the emmy because she deserve it! ❤
She's brilliant in the role.
I just played the first game again and she's really just as good as Ashley. And has her own unique personality with the character too which is similar but not a copy of game Ellie
@@babyfood9537 Yeah, both did great jobs and I love that she didn't totally emulate Ashley either. Two different versions of the same story, both of them great. I find it kind of fun that Bella and Ashley look quite similar!
@eldrafn yeah. The games are my favourite of all time, but even then I think I prefer the route they took the characters in the show. Ellie being portrayed more like a kid/innocent in the show and Joel being extremely empathetic towards her after her "first" kill were really good touches. In the game Joel doesn't say a word to her about how she feels after she's forced to kill the guy who's about to kill him. He just blows up at her about her not listening to him :( and yeah it's cool how they look similar lol Ashley playing Anna in the show was a sweet touch
what i loved the most about that final scene of ellie going to town on the creepo, is that they made it long enough, so they people that would be chanting and cheering her up for killing this man, also realize she's a 14 years old girl, that was about to get assaulted, and had to get herself through it. A FOURTEEN YEARS OLD. cause we got so desensitized to violence as people, from the amount we see on the regular, not only on the media we consume, but also regular life. people making billions over movies with super gory violence and people chanting over it every time.
After the first watch the line when preacher says to Ellie "Before i used to be a teacher to children of your age" gets a lot more creepier
The Last of Us Part 1 and 2 are my favorite games ever. I loved this show. It was such an amazing adaptation. It honored the original story so well while giving us a lot of brand new perspectives and possibilities.
17:00 Milena is so cute, she didnt like seeing Ellie sticking the needle but Milena covered her ears 😂
Race to tell them who Troy baker plays.
RIP Callus the horse
They didn't say his name in the show, but that's supposed to be Callus, the horse Joel & Ellie rode in the games.
Also, Game Joel didn't like the name that Ellie chose for the horse and he would often complain about it.
Now, in the show, Troy Baker (plays James in the show, and plays Joel in the game) gets revenge by shooting Callus in the show lol
Ellie is picking up Joel's mannerisms - saying "Buddy Boy" just like Joel says "your buddy" during the interrogation scene. I love their relationship so much 😭😭❤😂
I agree Milena that they hunt people. They went to a University to hunt animals?? No. They were there for people, they went to kill Joel immediately with no hesitation.
She even repeats Tess's "Luck had to run out sometime" when she was sitting in front of the fire with David
Unequivocally the best video game adaptation I have ever seen. It wast that hard though since the source material was already A1
The actor who plays the preacher also plays the guy who Jesse shoots in the head at the end of El Camino. Which makes me feel better haha
Yes, he was one of the two guys pretending to be FBI in Todd's apartment.
I've seen reactors who haven't played the game give David the benefit of the doubt in the beginning so I love how you immediately said "He's evil" at David that moment you saw him 🤣🤣
The passion and emotion in your reactions for thiis episode are so endearing. I'm loving this journey with you covering this series.
The “I believe him” line is so cold haha. Love it
In latin "venari" means "to hunt" and then "venatio" for "hunting"; in Old French "venesoun" and in English it was "venison" which was originally used for the meat of any game animal, including rabbits, hares, boars, goats, and ibex. Nowadays, it's used only for the meat of antlered ungulates. I still like to use the word as it originally meant to, even if you hunt a bird, that's still a venison for me, tho I never ate any hunted meat before.
You have never eaten any hunted meat? It's possible to buy it in stores quite often, at least in Norway.
@@rowaystarco That is completely unheard of in the US.
@@gracehiggins2666 well fair enough, it's not that common here either when I think about it. But reindeer meat is available in almost all stores. But I guess it's not that "wild" as they usually are in free roaming herds. But elk and deer can be bought via market places, from farms around the country and so on. Hunting of wild animals is also quite strictly regulated in Norway, it's important that animals aren't hunted to extinction. But it's also important that the herds don't grow to large and experience a collapse.
Sending LOVE to L&M for today .. watching Mr. Robot 4x7 and TLOU 1x8 on same day is tough job !! 😢
“It’s okay, baby girl. I got you.”
It’s been coming but from this moment on they are (surrogate) father and daughter.
One thing I would suggest is that, after finish this season, do well the brace yourself from the possible spoilers for the next seasons. It's gonna be hard to do as the games came out several years ago and the videos are all around social media. I have seen quite a few reactors already that kinda avoid all the spoilers throughout season 1 just to get spoiled for the seasons to come afterwads.
Reactors should just pretend TLOU is not even a thing and avoid to look for absolutely anything related to the show/game on google, youtube and stuff..if they don't want to get spoiled..but it's almost impossible to avoid spoilers tbh, especially if you think that we will have to wait YEARS for season 2..most reactors will get spoiled before the next season will be out and many of them will not tell us and will just pretend it didn't happen and that it's a completely blind reaction lol
Welcome to Sliver Lake. Here, "EVERYTHING HAPPENS FOR A REASON". ----- The look on both your faces was PRICELESS!!!!! ------ To see both your eyes drop in pure terror that was intense for sure. Great reaction. Loved it.
"Its okay baby girl" 😢
Such a fantastic episode, Winter is my favourite part of the game and I'm sure alot of the fans feel the same, it shows just how much Joel and Ellie fight for each other, they need each other and I think the show did a great job capturing that.
The scenery in this show is a credit to Canada. It's filmed in Alberta. Calgary for most of the city settings, Canmore for Jackson and other rural settings.
The actor who plays James (the first guy Ellie kills) is also the guy who voiced Joel in the game, pretty cool easter egg
12:40 That's the cutest fucking thing I've ever seen in my entire life
11:32 Fun fact, James (the guy on the left) is the actor that plays Joel in the game (voice and motion caption "mocap" actor), I've scrolled through the comment and was surprised that nobody mentioned it...
As a player of both games, it is an excellent adaptation. I couldn't ask for a better job adapting one of my most consequential games I've ever played.
James is played by Troy Baker, the original Joel
As mentioned by others, Bellie basically cleaved game Joel in this episode. In the next one you'll also see game Ellie's actress, Ashley Johnson, in probably the best & most poetic scene in the entire show. It will also feature another voice actress, Laura Bailey, which plays a minor role & character in there, just as in the first game (a few random NPCs basically), but she plays a major character in the second game.
I played the game nine years ago & I still remember my shock when I found out the true nature of these people & their "diet choices" 😅
Also, I love how they brought back voice actors from the game to play certain roles in the show, like Tommy's VA, Joel, & Ellie were all in the show.
This was my favorite reaction I have seen you do of any show. The investment you have in the characters and your expressions were priceless. You girls are great and I look forward to the finale with you.
One of the very few reactors who's sadness for Ellie overshadowed their satisfaction with David's death. Honestly don't understand how someone could watch that scene and be hyped up cheering, "Hell yeah get him get him!"
Does David deserve what he got, absolutely 100%, but the scene isn't triumphant. It's bleak and terrifying. It's supposed to make you sad that a little girl is put into a situation where she's forced to be this brutal to get away from these monsters.
I can understand either way. It just depends on which feeling is strongest, really. Sympathy for Ellie or the need for "justice" for lack of a better word. I don't think most people who are cheering for Ellie don't feel bad for her also. They're just happier to see her defend herself than they are sad for her trauma. But I'm sure both feelings are there. I can't watch the end of the episode and I couldn't play this part of the game myself. I had to rely just on people summarizing it for me. But if I could actually watch the scene, I think I would probably be happier to see David punished. I know that many survivors of SA/CSA were praising the writers for having Ellie save herself rather than having Joel show up to help, because they found it cathartic to see a victim save herself in a way that many of us couldn't (but wish we could have). It was important to a lot of us that it worked out that way. Unfortunately, not all of us are in a strong enough mental state to watch that sort of thing to receive that catharsis. But I understand the need of some people to see David get what's coming to him being the strongest feeling in that moment. It's not because they don't feel bad for Ellie or see the tragedy of what she went through; my heart goes out to ANYONE who has ever been assaulted in that way to any degree. It's a trauma I wouldn't wish on ANYONE.
It is so fun watching through this series again. You are both so smart!
RIP Venison Clark.
I have seen many reactions and your's was the best. Finally people who realize how traumatic that was for Ellie to go through. I love your thoughts and insights. Thank you.
I loved the little detail of how the writers gave Ellie the same line as tess "our luck had to run out sooner or later" just to honor her character maybe. Or maybe it's just Ellie quoting tess as she misses her dearly.
Everything in this movie repeats twice... if you watch the series carefully, it will catch your eye.
In the game, the complete dialogue Ellie says when encountering Joel, is "He... He tried to..." and then Joel interrupts I believe either with more dialogue or with the hug. I think the way it was portrayed in the series is magnificent and very much clear, I just wanted to add this detail from the game because I think it to be particularly efficient in bringing home the whole point of cannibalism not only as a literal plot route, but also as a metaphor to the kind of abuse David was planning on carrying out with Ellie... I mean, the whole fight as well as their interactions were heavily sexually connotated and that's both disgusting and excellent in the ways it plays into Ellie's character build-up.
I gotcha baby girl
It's been ten years for the first time i heard that but it always hits hard
I know the game and loved the show! Both did an amazing job.
Antelope Canyon is in Arizona but it is very close to Utah. The two famous parks in Utah are Bryce and Zion. You may have been at one of those. All stunningly beautiful places.
Two words that bring so many tears in this episode.... baby girl
32:39 haha her reaction was pure gold. For this episode I just feel they should've switch to the music of the game when Ellie chops David, which is a bit sadder rather than tense, It sends a clearer message of "look what she had to do in order to survive in this world", which is actually the reason why the camara points at her and not David. That said I loved this episode, it was fantastic.
Venison originally meant the meat of a game animal but now refers primarily to the meat of antlered ungulates such as elk or deer. Venison can be used to refer to any part of the animal, so long as it is edible, including the internal organs
Interesting fact. In English the meat of certain animals has a different name to the animal themselves. Beef and Cow, Pork and Pig, Venison and Deer, Mutton and Sheep.
This is because in the 11th Century after the Normans invaded England most of the upper class spoke French. These were the people eating most of the high quality meat, so the name for the meat is derived from the French word for the animals.
But most of the people tending to the farms and the livestock were Saxon and spoke old English. Thus the names of the animals is derived from a Saxon word for the animals.
Anyway, great reaction. Glad your enjoying the show.
You’re correct that “penultimate” means “next to last”. 👍
And you’re also correct that venison is deer meat (it can also be some other types of Game meat, but generally it’s deer). They were just lying about what the meat they were eating was.
Been waiting for you to get to this episode, you starting with "when are we getting to cannibalism". You caught on to everything. Ellie was a fighter and was one hell of scene.
Fun fact: James, David's right hand man, is Troy Baker, the actor that played Joel in the game.
Fun fact the actor who plays James is Troy Baker. Troy also was the voice of Greed in Full Metal Alchemist Brotherhood series you both recently finished watching.
In Joel's defense... Ellie did tell him to fuc*** kill them, he knew that they were not innocent because she wouldn't have said that otherwise.
Also, if he didn't kill the guys he "interrogated", they would have come after him once they free themselves. He couldn't risk that especially how weak he was.
Bella fking Ramsey everyone. 😨😭👏🏆
Fun fact about this episode, Troy Baker is in this episode, also known as Joel in the videogame.
I really love that in this series they did some easter eggs like Tommy's VA appeared, in this episode Joel's VA is here and more to come later.
The faces in the thumbnail say everything you need to know, lol.
Was excited for this one, great reaction and insight as always.
Dude that intro is the same song as the original soundtrack of the game, which is one of the most iconic soundtracks ever. Its so beautiful
Every forking show dammit. Lola you beautiful smartass. Always figuring or predicting shit out right from the get go.
Even in this episode. "He looks evil", "I wonder when we're gonna see a town that went towards cannibalism?". From AOT, FMA, everything else to TLOU. You guys are always on point, aware and attentive. That's why I consider this the best reaction channel. You guys got the best reactions, empathy, humane, intelligent and good freaking theories. Other reactors pale in comparison. 👍🌻😌
Awesome reaction as always! Really looking forward to the last episode! 🎉
The reactors I have watched that played the game were still very impressed with the Series
Antelope Canyon is in Arizona. That's my state!
As a long time fan of the games, I can say that they did a beautiful job adapting the story to television. They did remove a great deal of the action sequences, but for good reason: to focus on the characters, and make sure that the action that *is* there enhances the story. What we get is a more streamlined story, with honestly a bit more heart: Pascal's Joel is more deeply nuanced in his presentation, the Bill/Frank story was completely constructed for the show. Basically, the changes that were made were smart, and everything that needed to be the same, are nearly identical, sometimes shot-for-shot. I couldn't be happier with how they have done this, and I don't know how I'll be able to make it the 18 months (or however long) for the second season!
The action scens in the game wasn't even the thing that made me love the game.
U both are the best. I love this show and I love u both too. Can wait the last one!! I NEED IT
Love from Spain
this is such a crazy episode. my heart was pounding just watching your reaction. poor ellie :(
You’re right, it is penultimate.
So if you said, “We are on the penultimate episode of the season” it would be the same as saying second to last episode.
Milena 34:00. 😂😂😂😂
Oh boy, first Mr. Robot 407 and now this. Two tough episodes back to back.
Three of the best episodes of television ever in TV history in a single 9 episode season.
Sorry, but four. 3, 5, 7, 8.
Antelope Canyon in Arizona is so beautiful! I hope you were there or can visit there. Bryce Canyon is the one in Utah (edit: also very beautiful btw)
You guys should make a ranking video on all the intros in the shows you’ve reacted to.
There's a bit of a theory that some of the higher level people in the group knew/had suspicions about David being a MASSIVE creep. They wanted to spare Ellie from that fate, that's why they were about to shoot her. You'll see that they don't look particularly happy about it when they surround Ellie.
This has been stated to be completely wrong by the two show runners in the behind-the-scenes podcast.
Now THIS is a reaction! Really emotional. Awesome! 🫶
Venison refers to the meat of antlered animals like Deer or Elk (Antelope in South Africa), etc.
I think you both missed the ear that Ellie saw on the floor in the room she was kept in.
That's why she kicked the food away.
The cannibalism was a regular thing.
Bella is such an incredible actress ... I'm so impressed!
And I was one of the sceptical fans of the game. Since the game Ellie is one of my favorite game characters evers. And Bella nailed it in every scene
@ LM Reactions fun fact the guy who plays James, David’s lackey. He’s the guy who voices Joel in the games.
You all are always welcome here in our state of Colorado! We love visitors, and aren’t actually full of crazy cults😅 Just beautiful mountains and good people 🙂
great watch with yall, next episode will be fun!
First time i've watched Milena cry wow this was an intense episode...hehe nice reactions, brace yourselves for the finale!
Bella Ramsey was phenomenal in this episode
After listening to your post-episode discussion, you ladies need to watch Yellowjackets.