Best Tampers for Breville Barista Express | 54mm
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- Опубліковано 15 лют 2020
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Are you tired of using the cheap plastic espresso tamper that came with your Breville Barista Express Espresso machine? 54mm tampers are hard to come by, 54mm calibrated tampers are even harder to come by, and I've only ever found one 54mm palm tamper. In this video I'll be going over my 4 favourite tampers for the Breville Barista Express, and other Breville espresso machines. Step up your tamper game, and get yourself a better tamper for your machine. Calibrated tampers and palm tampers can really help when it comes with consistency. I highly recommend them for beginners, and experience espresso users alike.
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I have regular sized hands and had no problem using the Breville stock tamper. Perfect pucks popped out after each pull every time and no fuss cleaning the tamper. Are there better tampers out there? Yes!
It's all about feedback from the grinds as you press them down. If you're trying to kill them, it won't matter what you use.
I have the Crema. My daily fear (or rather multiple times a day...) is that I will drop this thing and it will break something or someone. In fact, I store it on a very low shelf in a cabinet so that it is not all the time sitting with such great potential energy (hah!). Thanks for the nice video!
You enunciate really well. My non-native English-speaking friends would love you.
Thank you for another great educational video. I was trying to decide which type of tamper or lever to purchase. I went with the LuxHaus.
I think espresso machines should all come with the option to upgrade to a combo distribution tool & palm tamper; especially for beginners that are concerned with inconsistent tamping from one dose to the next. I've had a Breville Barista Express for about a year, but just purchased the dist/tamper a couple of months ago. It's the best add-on I've purchased for my java shrine :-)
They just give you the shitiest one so they don't waste to much money
Excellent video. Thank you for the selection and choices.
Great video, I find the generic tamper you get with the machine is awful, so it's great to see a range of tempers that will work.
Simple, to the point, and helpful. Thank you!
This video helps a lot for me, thank you :D Am I able to use 53.5mm tamper too??
I like the one that evens out the grinds before you tamp. I always feel like I don’t know when to stop pushing down or if it’s even... great video 😊
Amira Rega and for the price, it's really two upgrades in one as Breville includes a leveler blade tool that works ok-ish, along with the ok-ish tamper. I appreciate the low profile of the palm tool as well. My kitchen is small, so storage is scarce, but vital to keep work areas uncluttered in a tiny space. And the lack of need for a tamping mat also goes over well. Agreed, great video, well a concisely presented! 👍🏻
54mm is a little less prone to channeling as the puck is thicker. 58mm pucks are thinner and more susceptible to channeling. So it’s a nice trade off for beginners to introduce the 54mm basket.
Good to know!
How do you decide on the depth of the palm tamper? Do you adjust depending on over or under tamping on the espresso out. Or is their a better way. Thanks
How much dose are you using? Can you measure your adjusted height on the crema tamper?
Cannot find a link for the 58mm Crema distribution tool. Amazon has one by Apexstone, but I'm not sure its as highly recommended. My machine is Brevile BES920.
In my twenty plus years off espresso making experience, the palm tampers provide better feedback than those with a handle and much less likely to uneven level. If you think about it, upright handles are not very ergonomic if you are pushing down on something. It's much better to have a flat surface. Consumers get easily fooled by fancy looking and expensive tampers thinking they do a better job. Just my honest opinion. Spend your money on a dosing funnel and stop wasting coffee and messing up your machine and counter.
I bought the crema and I love it. Gives me perfect tamp every time and perfect shots.
I borught one recently too. Do you have tips on setting it up for proper depth? I don't recall many/any instructions that came with it.
Where did you buy it? I cant seem to find it on amazon, its all sold out!
@@ericolsen8926 He has a video where he shows tips on that, putting it into the machine to get an imprint of the shower screen on the puck and then tamping until that is gone by increasing the depth of the tamp
@@massimocarozza381 you can also just use the blade that came with the machine, just match the depth of the tamper with the blade!
I have a Sage Barista Express (which is basically the same machine) and I just bought a 54mm tamper and it will not fit. I am wondering if a 53.5 mm will, I want the tamper to go right to the inner edge of the portafilter. The plastic one that comes with the machine does not tamp the edges. Do you have any experience with the 53.5mm, I don't want to buy another tamper that I cannot use? Thanks.
Thank you ! Good video!
I’m just wondering why does there is some coffee ground always sticks with my tamper every time after I tamp.I’m using a normal steel tamp.Please help me to sort this problem out.Thanks in advance.
Very informative video thanks. Can I ask though if Breville included the Razor tool with the Barista Express and if you use that ?
Yes, that tool is included and serves the important function of ensuring your puck is not sitting so high that it will be in contact with the shower screen while brewing. As long as you do not remove any grinds from the basket while using it, go right ahead! It serves the same purpose as the distributer tool on the back of the Cream palm tamper I linked. I opt to use a distributor tool, or simply by being mindful that I am tamping deep enough if I dont have a distributor handy. All personal preference for performing the same function :)
Pullman Espresso makes a naked portafilter, tamper and palm tamper, and distribution tool for the Breville and SAGE machines. Happy for you to check them out. :)
Hi! Would you be interested in sending some for review? :)
Hi, how can I get these in the UK?
@@Methiri are you asking about the Pullman products? Pullman Germany should be able to help you save some freight $$
@@pullmanespresso Yes, I wanted the Naked/Bottomless portafilter for the Sage Barista Express. I can't get it in the UK? So Germany is my best bet?
@@Methiri how did you go?
So, is the crema tamper the exact same tamper as the alsainte?
In lavazza dek it mentioned 20kg tamper force how do it apply it in the tamper?
Question no 2 : Flat or convex ???
Very helpful video. Is the Crema tamper leveler different from Matow? Thanks in advance
Yes, they are different both in specifications. The Crema one is 53.3 rather than Matow's 53...too much room allows for shifting the grinds when spinning. I am personally a fan of Crema's since they debuted a couple of months before Matow with Matow then selling their products for about 20% cheaper. Plus I like that Crema is Headquartered in Illinois vs. Matow in China.
Even more annoyingly, Breville portafilters are more like 53.5mm so you either have a loose fit 53mm or a 54mm base that doesn't fit, and leads to channels around the edge of the puck. But tampers with 0.5mm increments are only really found for the commercial 58mm size.
Is the crema 53.5?
One thing that frustrates me most is the coffee stuck between tamper and basket wall. Not only it’s a waste of coffee, but what effects does it do to the shot and group head? I imagine those loose coffee will get caught by the group head so contamination will occur. Even with palm tamper you see this sometimes. How to fix it?
I always lightly blow off the loose grinds left after tamping. These loose grinds will almost always exist, and should always be removed before putting the portafilter into the group to avoid excessive grind buildup
I think the palm tamper will only give a consistent depth not pressure because it always stops in the same place, so if you dose changes then the tamp pressure will change.
This is what I wonder about the palm tampers too.
You’re completely correct :)
Palm Tamper vs Calibrated Tamper
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After tamping, there is a tool that puts a bunch of tiny holes in the puck to avoid channeling. What is the name of that tool? do you have a video on it? I love your videos, very professional & fun.
It’s the WDT (Weiss Distribution Technique), and it’s done before tamping :)
@@mailapozon7981 Thanks Maila :)
Have you try the bottomless portafilter? I have no luck finding one at reasonable price.
There is one coming out for 54mm portafilters from the same company that makes the palm tamper. I'll have a video on it coming out soon!
I see that you're in Canada. I've been looking for a 53/54 mm distributor forever. How long did the Crema take to ship to you?
Its relatively quick you'll just need to pay import fees. There is also an option by MATOW that I have linked for Canadians, the link should default to that one on Amazon .ca
Are there any tricks or tips to set correct depth of the palm tamper/distributor ?
Keep increasing the depth of the tamping side until you no longer see the imprint of the shower screen on the puck after brewing. As for the distributor side, I leave that set to the minimum (shallow) at all times
We use the doser on the machine verses weighing our 18g of beans. While most of the time the weight is good, sometimes it can be off by as much as a half gram. Since we do use the doser, would we be better off with a calibrated tamper? I like the palm tamper, but my concern is if it’s a little over, or under, I may not get the same ramp pressure. Your thoughts?
If you're not constantly dosing exactly the same, I think you're right that a calibrated tamper may be your better option. You could get some undertamping with the palm tamper
2M views awesome, thanks for the insight
Does the flat side of the temple have the pressure mark? How do I know the ideal pressure level I should set? thanks
Pressure is less important that getting an even and consistent tamp. Baristas has long disproved the "35lbs of pressure" myth. Can you explain what you mean by pressure mark?
Great video , really helped !
I don't know why but my standart tamper that comes in stock with BBE is a little smaller in diameter (about 52mm or even 51mm) which leads to annoying coffee clumps stuck on the rim around it
Yup!
This is why we recommend going with one of these precision options that are fit perfectly to the basket diameter
What would you recommend for the Breville 58mm for the Dual Boiler as in Tamps. Thanks
Decent Espresso brand calibrated tamper
so the links you provided will definitely fit the breville barista express portafilter? Thanks :)
Yes! They are all 54mm versions :)
Just double check as you are checking out incase you might have switched to a different size inadvertently
thank you so much
When using the distribution tool side do you get grinds stuck between the black and silver part?
Yes, there does tend to be a little retention in that area. One of the disadvantages of an adjustable setup, the threads can be exposed at some depths. Not a huge deal! Its only a fraction of a gram
I've been just using a leveling tool and skipping the secondary tamp altogether.
Seems to give good and consistent results.
You're not the only one. If you set the depth on the distributer properly, it forces the coffee to compact. I personally have mine set to match the included tool. But, you can also go by the amount you need to avoid getting an imprint in the grounds when you install the portafilter.
the cup being used on your Breville, is it the one with one center hole or the one with multiple holes?
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Hi. I like your videos very much. Thanks a lot! I recently bought a breville/sage as the one you are using. I started setting up the machine and I have the following difficulty which I cannot overcome up to now. Despite several trials and loss of coffee beans, I cannot manage to set up the adjustment beans/espresso = 18g/36g in 25-30sec. What I keep strictly constant: coffee amount (18g) and tamping pressure. The pressure for the extraction I adjusted to about 5-6bar by choosing grinding level 5. However, I do not get the 36g in 25-30 sec but in 20-21sec. The espresso tastes horrible. I tried to go to a finer grinding (e.g. 4). The result was that I reached the high edge of espresso pressure (7 bar on the pressure gauge) and the 36g of final espresso outcome still come out in less that 25sec. I am somehow stuck. What should I do in order to get the 36g espresso out in 25-30sec and staying within the espresso pressure range at the same time? Thanks a lot.
Don't pay attention to the "pressure range" marked on the dial. Focus on getting good flow, and adjusting the extraction to your taste
@@LifestyleLab_ ok thank you. I will try to ignore these parameters.
@@dim3860 I recently bought a Sage Barista Pro and am having the exact same issue. No matter how fine the grind is, the time is always less than 20 seconds. I've temporarily overcome this by using the custom setting. So far, it's the only way I've been able to get drinkable espresso.
@@glennover6046 太极Dim Use coffee from a local coffee roaster that has the roast date on the package and is fresher than 2 weeks if you buy it. Don't use pre-packaged supermarket beans. They never give you a good shot. It's a difference like heaven to hell. Fresh beans are more clay like, less brittle, more chewy, so you get more pressure at a much coarser grind. (Breville has included the pressurized basket for supermarket beans).
18 gram is a lot for the standard double basket. Try 14 to 16 grams. And use freshly roasted (2 wks max) beans from local supplier. Huge difference.
There are some self leveling ones which work similarly to your palm one. The problem with the palm ones is if they don't go deep enough.
Thats why I like this adjustable one! It can go far deeper than you'll ever need
@@LifestyleLab_ Cool that's important I think some don't go deep enough. I want to find a good one that isn't super pricey for a 58mm.
Check out the one I use in our Rocket Appartamento review! I think Crema Coffee Products also sells a 58mm version now
How do you know how far to adjust the palm tamper?
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Is the palm tamper still effective when using smaller or larger doses of coffee? I almost grabbed one a few months back but decided not to because I thought it would need constant adjustment while experimenting with different coffee and doses (due to differing volumes of coffee). Thank you for your time!
If you keep the same dose, you can easily dial in only using grind setting while keeping the tamp depth the same. I try 3 or 4 different coffees a month and have never had a problem :)
@@LifestyleLab_ That makes sense, I think I'll get one. Thanks!
how can you compare consistency when one damper is calibrated by force and the other by distance
Boy do I have a video for you! ua-cam.com/video/pp6hTpn7258/v-deo.html
Is there a magnetic tamper upgrade that can attach to the magnet on the Breville?
Not that I know of, but that would be very smart!
Having either a bad tamper or leveling , can it make the coffee flow mostly on one side only due to the pack hitting the underneath of the machine ?
Yes, an uneven tamp will absolutely cause uneven flow
@@LifestyleLab_ k then I’m gonna have to buy one of those fancy tamper LOL
Is the calibrated tamper still effective when using smaller or larger doses of coffee?
Yes! Because there is always the same amount of force being applied regardless of bed depth. A puck tamper on the other hand will vary based on dose
So what is your recommendation for a good single portafilter for the Breville Barista Express? Also, what is a good tamper tool for single shot baskets? All I have seen is tamper tools for double shot baskets….. PLEASE ADVICE.
Tampers for single vs double shot baskets are not different, the diameter remains the same :)
@@LifestyleLab_ Oh really? I thought the narrower bottom end on single baskets doesnt fit the tamper that comes with the machine? Can you please confirm? Thanks for your fast reply - awesome work.
Single dose baskets don't taper until right at the bottom. I can 100% confirm
@@LifestyleLab_ Thanks - that was helpful. See if you can make a video explaining this in more details. There is very little content around the internet for single dose baskets.
So if I can get a 53.3mm tamper for the Breville, that would be the ideal? Nice video bro.
Yes, it will certainly help get the best tamp and avoid edge channeling :)
I don't understand how you can get a consistent tamp with the palm tamper that works on depth. If you have too much or too little grind then the pressure you put down to get the same depth is always inconsistent.
It gives a consistent tamp, with a consistent dose. Which will always be the case shot to shot with the same coffee. When switching coffee, you can adjust the tamping depth
I would like to buy a new tamper but I don't know how to measure my portafilter
What machine are you using? A quick google of the machine specs will likely give you the answer without having to measure yourself :)
What’s the best palm tamper you can buy in the UK?
Lots of options on Amazon that are identical to the one shown :) just make sure you get the right 53mm / 54mm size
which size should I buy for a snug fit? 54,5mm?
If you have a Breville, you most likely have a 54mm portafilter. It'd be best to get one that is as close to that as possible. The Crema is 53.3 and a step above some of the competition that is at 53.0.
For Sage bambino plus BSE500, what tamper motto to buy 54mm or 53mm? I heard that MOTTA 54mm will not fit too much. I have this original tamper but it is xa loose
53.3 is the precision size you need to avoid a gap around the perimeter. So check the exact dimensions
@@LifestyleLab_ THANK YOU So 54mm will be too big? I only have MOTTA 53MM or 54mm available. Will it be better the 53 than the original one that comes with the espresso machine that is in your video?
@@LifestyleLab_ I have the original sage it's too loose. I have the option to buy only MOTTA 54mm or 53mm from me what will he be better? i.e. 53mm?
I’m not sure what the exact dimensions of the Motta are. I’d recommend going with a brand like Normcore or Crema Coffee Products that makes precision 53.3mm specifically for Breville
I like the saint anthony myself.
But these are all 53mm, correct?
If I bought the crema palm tamper, should I adjust it or is it already adjusted for breville barista express ? (the distributer and the tamper)
It will need some adjusting. I set it just deep enough so that I don't see a dent from the shower screen on the puck after brewing.
@@LifestyleLab_ Ok, thank you.
2M views THATS what I do!
@@AM2PMReviews what dose amount are you using for a double cup? Can you measure the adjusted amount on your crema and share with us?
Josh Foster on my channel I show how I do it. I normally dose at 20 grams and try to get 40 out or get more yield at 50 grams out. Depends on what I roasted and when.
I've noticed the palm tamper you've linked to is 'Matow' branded rather than the Crema brand you have in your video. Are they different products from each other?
They are the same product. I link to the Matow brand when the Crema version is out of stock
What best 54mm or 58mm? (mine is 58mm)
Hi Raghad. Neither tamper size is "better", you need to get the proper size to fit your portafilter. 58mm is the industry standard, but some consumer level machines such as Breville's use 54mm portafilters
Isn’t the 54mm because it means they can have a smaller pump to make the 9 bar pressure?
From my understanding of physics it would be the other way around. Larger surface area means you need less force.
@@knipsi22 well I'm afraid it's not correct. P= F/A, this F= PA. 58mm will require larger force to get similar pressure in the portafilter compared to 54mm.
@@muhammadriduan597 Yeah, you're right. Don't think thats the reason they chose 53mm though. The pump afaik is a normal sized Ulka.
@@knipsi22 anyhow that's for brew head pressure, I don't know if it justify boiler pressure
Fun fact is that none of the Breville or Sage stock are not 54mm.. tamper is exactly 53mm and the inside of filter double or single is 53.12, 53.14mm🤷🏻♂️👀
May i know the size of the Tamper please
Precision is 53.3mm
Written size will be 54mm often
your Crema palm tamper link now goes to a MATOW tamper... hope it's just an honest mistake and not a bait and switch!
It’s the exact same product at a better price
Nice I just did a video like this!
I'm split on the combination leveler/tamper, but so far I like it for leveling but not for tamping. If you tamp to its limit - which is the point where it contacts the rim of the portafilter and can't compress the coffee any further - then the amount of tamping is changing depending on your dosage. To get a consistent tamp, then, you need to likewise adjust it in lockstep with any changes in dosage amount. Additionally, if it's adjusted too far out you will almost certainly get a lopsided tamp. So when it's dialed in, sure, it's great, but when it's not, it's kind of terrible. But it also means you have yet another tool you need to adjust when dialing in a new bean.
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So its basically 53mm tamper and not 54mm, correct?
Tamper brands seem to use those sizes interchangeably because of how the Breville baskets slightly taper. A tamper specced with either of those sizes will work for the Breville machines
@@LifestyleLab_ Great thank you.
I’ll need to watch this
I have a 54mm "convex" calibrated.. tamper Is it better than the flat one ???
That's a bit of a contentious debate in the espresso community as to which is better. A convex tamper aims to give the water an easier path through the center of the puck, in an attempt to offset the normal channeling that usually occurs around the edge of the portafilter. Short answer is, use the one you prefer, 9/10 people can't taste the difference, and the ones that claim to be able to can't decide on which is better.
Actually the size of basket for Breville 8xx series is a bit less than 54 even it declares 54mm. only 53mm works. The Force Tamper has 53mm options while provides consistent tamping and leveling.
I went searching my boys band and some how this popped up, idk wtf any of these words mean he’s saying but I’ll take 6.
Sold!
Screw tampers, levelers are where it's at, IMHO :)
My favourite is certainly the crema distributor :)
@@LifestyleLab_ I bought one of these recently. Do you have tips on setting it up property? How do you know you've set the depth of both sides to proper settings?
@@ericolsen8926 Set the tamping depth just deep enough so that you don't see an impression from the shower screen on the puck after brewing. The distributor side I leave set at the absolute minimum depth
@@LifestyleLab_ Or, you can just match the included blade tool. The end result should be pretty much the same.
Distributor tools should actually be called levelers because I don't think they really evenly distribute all layers just basically level the top layer. The breville machine might come with a thing that already does that.
god I want that palm tamper/distrubuter combo but these things are so freaking overpriced.
also i have the gastroback version and the included distributer (doesn't push the ground in so it's useless) says 54mm but the actual poratfilter size is 53.3-53.5mm. hmmmm
Distribution Tamper makes only Sense when you have everytime the Same Gramms of beans.
Is your channel called 2M Views because it's surpassed 2 million views? Will it change to 3M Views?
You are exactly right!
You don't have palms?
Lost them in the same accident I lost my head in
I bought one of the suggested tampers and it does not fit in the portafilter of the Breville Bambino Plus, which is the same size of the Barista Express mentioned in this video. Be careful!!
You may have accidentally purchased a 58mm version? All of these are purpose made for Breville.
@@LifestyleLab_ Nope, I purchased the 54mm one, directly from Amazon from the link provided below your video.
@@xabierlaibarra7216 which one did you buy? All of the links go to ones that fit the Breville and are 53/53.3"...not one would be 54" - that is the exact size of the portafilter...
Crema palm tamper is only 53 mm. Of course it will fit but rather have 54mm.
I know the designer, it is build specifically for Breville portafilters :)
@@LifestyleLab_ oh ok!
Tamping is very straight forward!!!!!
By coffee snobs n videos Makes a simple task more complicated than it really is.
The easiest one to use is the Crema. It's almost automatic tamping. The lip stops you dead from too much pressure !!!!
Tamping 101:
Fill coffee to top of basket, remove excess with straight edge and then gentle pressure to compact coffee for even distribution....!!!!
It's that simple !!!! Really is that simple !!!!!!
Don'tr over complicate a simpke task !!!!!
Breville says 54mm, but the ones you linked are 58mm.
Also you linked at 53mm, would you prefer using the 58 or the 53 with the breville 54 portafilters?
The ones linked are designed for the breville machines. Some sources use 53mm and some 54mm because of how the filter basket tapers. The 58mm are for the Dual Boiler and Oracle machines
Tamp pressure has been debunked
Yes, I even made that video, but beginners can still use some help getting consistency
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God espresso stuffa re so freaking overpriced. probably costs 4$ to manufacturer
No knowledge value in this video, it's just like a comercial
Sorry but that’s subjective
What is?
who cares about breville, i thought this is about the best temper period
All of these tampers are also available in 58mm versions :) and people with 54mm Brevilles care, like I explained in the video and in the title...
Read the title... or listen the first 10 seconds of the video.... you are dumb
Ash Ho Hey Read the title next time to prevent inserting your foot in your mouth.