If you turn of vibrations you can still get a pretty strong force feedback with it. The reason behind the louder FFB might be that maybe the G27 has faster motors and it can vibrate quicker. Although I'm really happy with mine, you just have to turn down FFB a bit to be quiet at night.
I got a G27 for 2 years now and it makes the same rattle even from the box. Though it hasnt caused me any problems and is still working perfectly fine after harsh use in drifting in games like Assetto corsa and LFS.
The rattling noise on the g27 is due to the spring supported counter bearings for the FFB motors. When the FFB motors actuate it compresses the counter bearing spring. By faulty design however there is too much wiggle room and the counter bearing is moved back creating the god awful rattle. I saw a tutorial to fix this by installing an 8mm nut and bolt behind the spring to reduce the wiggle room, and that seemed to work for some others however i don't know if i'm ready to take apart my g27 and start drilling.
lol the noise is due to bad settings like having road effects too high set profiler to 100-0-0-0-900 and in game 70 gain and all other effects at 0 and it will be silent and be sure to set 900 dg in game too
Nothing wrong with the wheel , lower your FFB settings in profiler. Profiler settings for g27 in Assetto Corsa: 70% 0% 0% 0% 720 degrees Setttings in Assetto Corsa Advanced tab: Gain 100% Filter 0% Damping 0% Min Force 0% Kerb Effects 30% Road Effects 20% Slip Effects 5%
Yes, i agree. I've been using similar settings for a long time. It's just that devs still use very 'stupid' settings as default for G series, lol. Kinda frustrating when you need to play with settings for days and just want to enjoy for an hour or two a day...
Where've you been for the past few years? In cave?! :-P Joke aside, sims have come to a new level of realism. I am talking about rFactor 2, Assetto Corsa (own both)... triple display for more FOV, Oculus Rift and much more just to add a little more to realism.
@@Yukanhayt-Mhenow yeah I got really into it for a while after this comment. I realized that the high end wheels were out of my price range so I dropped it for now. The cheaper ones just don't feel right as far as realism goes. But boy learning to drift in Assetto Corsa sure was fun.
I experienced exactly this rattling with my last G27. As I had another G27 before, I know that not all of them produce this loud rattling sound. With the old one, you could hear hardly any noise when going hard over curbs or something else. Only at very high FFB settings there was a little bit of rattling, which is normal because of the helical bearing. If I were you I, would contact the dealer or the logitech support, in order to change the wheel. Could you please do me a favour and take a look at the serialnumber of your G27 (it's located on the bottom of wheelbase).
Hi! Thanks for your comment! I'm still in need of help, some people say it is normal to behave like that but i just can't play AC anymore on it. Even on much lowered settings i can feel it. Now it's stuck in my head... Hope Logitech does something. M/N: W-U0001 P/N: 841-000042
Sssaga Benches According to the P/N number you posted, you got the same crappy old version of the G27 as I got last year. In the meantime there were released at least two newer versions of the G27. Newest one is the G27 Refresh (P/N: 941-000092) which was released in the middle of last year. The predecessor of the newest version has P/N: 941-000045. So you see that your dealer gave you a very old G27. This huge rattling which is shown in your video is NOT acceptable!!! I know by my own experience that there are G27s on the market, which don't produce such a noise. So you should talk to your dealer. If he doesn't want to exchange your wheel, contact the logitech support and submit them your video. I'm sure that they will find a solution which will satisfy you. So I wish you good luck!
the only downside of G25/27 are the footedals potmeters that need to be cleaned every couple of months for the rest i never had the need to upgrade from the G25,,its still sufficient and even better as the g27 if you accept it has less buttons and no shifterlights the internal upgrades done to G27 are not nessacarily a step forwards got my G25 in 2009 ,and if it ever breaks ill be getting another
bassax7045 gearbox is better with G27 but it lacks sequential. Don't get me wrong, i come from EU so H all the way but when a car has seq. shifter like in many leagues i want to drive as it should be driven :) In this case it's a letdown but due to imroved H shifting. Good thing mods exist.
Sssaga Benches thru,, the shifter is more solid ,but NO H shift change knob,,nifty lights on it too,,but the FFB gearing in the wheelbase is better designed in the good old G25,,in the G27 they bend the ends but overall pretty similiar decent wheels
Maaz S both G 25 & G27 are H-shifters and paddle shifters. G25 also has sequential shifthing mode - rally mode or a nice handbrake usage if using paddles :)
@ExcZist's Studio English isn't even my first language & I can speak/type it better than you. You can't skip for that long, you'll get kicked out of your school. Even so your parents won't let you stay at home. Stop lying kid.
@@thefalloutfan I've already bought the G25 as it was cheaper but anyway its really good wheel with good force feedback I was on budget but still really nice wheel.
I get this rattle from my G27 in AC also. I get some rattles in iRacing with FFB turned up to 20+ when driving down a straight then braking hard so the wheels lock up. same noise like a vibrating clatter, I have been speaking to the seller of my G27 but I really don't want the faff of sending it back and I can't work out if this is normal or not or if my wheel is knackered. One thing I will advise is to push the stumps for clamping down and lock them in place, if you feel the locking stumps when not pressed they move / wobble and make some noise. Pushing them down then locking them in place with a slight turn stops them from rattling but of course this is a very minor difference made.
I like better the G25, In games (i-racing, automobilista, A.Corsa, ..rfactor2...and so) the FFB, and whatever these wheels can give to your hands, the G25 is Perfect. To me the G27 is like a broken G25
My G27 isn't that loud and banging. And i also don't use that much FFB. I feal every bump through it but it's never twitchy in an uncomfortable/ridiculous way. I really feel it but it's never as if the steering wheel is trying to break loose from your grip. Always trying to perfect the steering to be as smooth and accurate and still be as realistic as possible in the game, in that way everything feels right and the car does almost exactly what i want. The car and controls in 99% sync, the only thing i would wish for is if the steering wheel had is a steering lock function so you could adjust it to the game, because in racing the steering is locked to 180 or less degrees so it would be nice if i could lock my steering as well.
Roffel Swagman Try the g25. If you are in to realism and driving older cars. You need more force feedback to get the feel of the cars. g25 is much tronger. I had to modify my g27 to get rid of the wheel play and rattle sound when driving on curbs. Wheel play comes when turning/adjusting at high speed. This is because of the FFB going through heli cut gears witch moves. I know this because i have dismantle the g27 put a lot of work into getting rid of the rattle and wheel play. Now it only lack the power of the g25. I would trade my g27 in a g25 any day
same problem in g27, the feedback is more noisy when i turn right, thats a common problem for all g27. the noisy is made by a small white piston connected at the feedback engine. in internet there is a fix that usa a bolt and a screw
Hey, do you have any ideea why is your G27 calibrates twice during boot-up? I have the same issue with my G25 on a Asus M5a99x evo and it's driving me nuts. What mobo do you have?
Well, mine was bought from a buddy and it only calibrated once on startup, but at my place it does that twice. To be honest, I wish it didn't at all. It just sounds like it's going to break itself, not to mention it makes my monitor tremble on the desk and waking everybody in the house...stupid Logitech engineers.
Sssagaman your G27 sounds too noisy. I think it is faulty. Did you send back already? I have a DFGT and now i found a way to connect g25/g27 pedals to it. I have to buy a used one. That could be a strong combination, becuase that wheel is less loud than g24/g27 and there are a lot of buttons already located on it
I wish Logitech would release a new wheel. I am still using a Logitech Wingman Formula Force GP wheel. It still works like new. Logitech wheels last forever. But I don't really want to buy a G27 cause they have been around for at least 4 years. Still no news of a new wheel yet though so I guess I'm gonna have to buy the G27 simply for an upgrade. But it would be nice to see a newer wheel hit the market.
1:30 ye i think its normal because it does that in every wheel
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My MOMO pedal's gave out on me. I'm buying a used G25 for a good price, it's an impulse buy. Is it a mistake not waiting and saving some more money for a used G27 or I'm fine with the G25. For example G27 would be around 60 euroes more over the used G25 price, but it's harder to find.
+Ivan Kolić I still use both wheels, well G25 is driven by bro. We both have custom diy homemade wooden playseats (finally we can drive them beasts as it's meant) and compete in assetto corsa against each other :) Both wheels are great, take cheaper one.
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Thanks for the reply. I'm going to pick up the G25 on Tuesday. I'm so stocked :) It's a huge difference over the MOMO wheel. I'm also playing AC.
Ivan Kolić you could also get DFGT as it uses same motors as G25 so FFB is good, also 900° rotation, has seq. shifter but the downside is plastic pedals (no clutch). Friend who races F1 mods in rFactor 2 is driving on it and has alien skills. Numerous guys claiming he's cheated (league racing) yet i've seen him in person at my house lap a fantastic lap on my G27 which he never drove before. He did mention a stronger ffb and better wheel though (apart from much stiffer brake pedal :D). But G27 does use helical gears, a bit different aproach to G25 but to me it's the same ffb in precision & strength. It's just that most G25 are a bit loud when turning wheel, yet another friend has picked a G25 which is almost silent. It's also a matter of how lucky you get with a pick :)
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+Sssaga Benches Yeah I know about the DFGT. I can almost get a new one for the price of this used G25. But I want the stick shift and the clutch for manual transmission cars in AC. And I want to learn to heel toe. Also I hate the pedals on DFGT cause they're basically the same as MOMO's which have given me too much frustration with spiking, and modding with replacing pots.
I'm pretty sure that the reason that the G27 makes those noises is because of the helical gears that it has. This is why it is quieter than the G25 but makes those noises.
Yes. That's the downside. The G27 does that rattling when turning right because the teeth are angled to that direction but when you're turning left it's quiet. I have a G27 and i've had a half year experience with it and 1.5 years with a DFGT so i know what's what.
Gustav1337 My G27 has never made any noise... until recently it makes very quiet rattle sounds if the FFB is extra intense.. nothing anywhere near this and 99% of the time it's totally silent. I've had it for like four years.
Sssaga Benches On Gran Turismo 6 I currently use 8 (down from 9) out of 10, on LFS (which is the only PC sim I play right now) the FFB felt stronger than that wherever I had it set. (my settings were lost a while back and I haven't set it up again) I probably used it above the point of clipping on LFS more than a few times but there's no point to use it that high. I like strong FFB, though.
So the wheel makes noise only when the "feedback" thing is activated? What If I just deactivate it and play without feedback, will any of the wheels still make noises?
Sssaga Benches To not play with the sound... I really just want to shift and steer without any BS , last time I tested a wheel the FFB was just some "vibrations" and they were annoying. Also, now that Logitech released the G29 which isn't even compatible with older games all the stores in my country stopped selling G27 and G25, so my only chance is buying second-hand
Abra Cadabra Trust me, you'll want FFB. Problem is, you need good settings for best FFB possible in specific PC game/car. Run rFactor 2 demo (freeware) and you'll see the best possible FFB the G25/27/29 can give you :) Problem is that you need to lower (overall) FFB effects so the motors can output the proper feedback otherwise you get meesed up info in your hands if the FFB is too strong for both motors. Thus loud sound. Always run logitech profiler with fixed settings and do change only in game menu. That goes for all games. Or you could run specified settings in profiler for each game. I need hour or two just to get optimal FFB when i test new sim-racing game. Also, G25 has a bit different FFB as G27/G29 but all of them are in same league. No worth buying new G29 when you can get G25 in good shape for quarter the price.
+Sssaga Benches Which one do you prefer 25 or 27? I don't care about the noise as long as it is normal operation. Which do you think is more durable. Just wondering as I plan to buy used one and need to know what to look and listen for so as not to buy one that is near worn out on its last legs. Only issue I have read was center calibration issues which I believe can be easily fixed but lower the value of a used unit. Would improper FFB setting cause premature wear and tear? Anything else? Thanks for your advice in advance.
I just bought a g27 And it does not make noise like that. Has a lot more ffb though. If I set it to 200 degree rotation it can actually hurt hands. 450 degree is perfect for gt5 and gt6 though. The standard 900 degrees is too sloppy and the ffb is kinda weak
I own DFGT and its making that same noise but when turning left not right. Dealer says that it is the way it should be... To me it sems like there is something wrong with it.
I have a g25 but the force feedback motors sound wierd once I turn 45 degrees and is constant after that, any clues? Might just pull it apart again for the 5th time
Sssaga Benches I would assume so go knock on Solid wood and then knock on a solid METAL\ALU surface should be much more quiet... His desk rattles a little
I have mine on harder wood and it doesn't rattle a bit, Only the slight noise from the game, (besides the glitchy cars in Project cars) the karts mess with the wheel and it rattles to the point you can't play without all around turrning off force feedback.
if you have those additional ffb effects in AC turned on... like the kerb effect.. it's normal.. I personally turned them all off.. because that are just additional "fake" effects which they putted in because some people wanted these... but it is not the "truth" of whats happening so I turned them off and have just the pure "real" ffb which doesn't rattle like that.. and btw if you think this is bad.. try rfactor 2 without ffb smoother... lol.. I thought I can put my wheel into a trashbin after a drive there.. you think the wheel will explode :D
You are RIGHT on the money !! I do have a g27 my self and experience`d every single word you wrote in comparison to he g25.. But since the g25 is out of sale i made modifications to the g27. No rattle or wheel play in curbs or when turning between right and left at high speed withe very little movement but much force. It took me a day to dismantle and put it back, and still i would choose the g25 just because it has more force feedback power.
Just go for the g25 wheel. It`s a risky business to modify it. Im about to find a suitable replacement for this application and sell it as optional. I don`t want to reveal it before the option is available. But the wheel play and noise is going to disappear .
Yeah, thats something most people tend to do whenever they by something "expensive".. Just fall in love with the god damn thing. If you like to drive older cars, the bigger G27 gives more realistic feel to it with the ability of almost 100% more force feedback even with the bigger wheel. Because of the heli cut gears, some of the torque goes "horizontally", pushing the gears "sideways"... Don`t know if i explained this in a understandable way. Pardon my English (i`m from Norway) But please do the upgrade when i get the parts available. The buttons and noise reduction is a nice thing to have if you don`t live alone in the house.. :P
wally19 Whow, crazy. My g25 just gave out after 7 years too, and I also just got a g27. For me the FFB is not nearly as loud as the G25...However, to me it feels like the G27's FFB is not as sensitive when going over rumble strips for instance.
I'm not sure what you have done to your g27, but ive had mine for 4 years. i run FFB at 100% in project cars, and on iRacing pretty high also and my FFB isn't in anyway that noisy, never has been never was. I've never had a g25 so i cannot comment on that, but your g27, is unrealistically noisy.
I was almost going to order one of these. But thank's to your video and the response's here, I will not be ordering one. It seam's to me that Logitech has been going down hill as a company in the last few year's or so.
Both units are old verisons (G25 & G27). Later revisions are much better, friend's G25 acts much better vs this one shown in video. If you get the latest revisions of any of the units you should get it.
mano me ajuda ai a minha direcao ta muito mas muito dura e quando coloco em opcoes pra configuirar as marchas so pega os botoes o cambio da marcha mas posicoes nao funciona. porque ??
Sssaga Benches i have a g25 and it really depends what you connect it to, I have a playseat evolution and you don’t get the bangs and vibrations like you do with connecting it to a work top
+Phijaga g27 is the biggest piece of shit. have you ever opened one up? £170 should be a good quality wheel. no. its cheap plastic shite on the inside. the lubricant they use makes the plastic brittle and will crack. cheap shite, customer support is useless and refused to replace it under warranty and instead go to the 'retailer to return it', sorry shithead but GAME had no information what so fucking ever on warranty returns. horrible customer support, horrible build quality, 'leather' steering wheel? LOL. its noisy, it grinds the gears and its a horrible wheel.
+Will D Hi Will, I find it is a good wheel, I have no problems. It isn't cracking, and it works good. You have very much metal, and that is good. Some places are with plastic. I have warranty for 3 years. I find, that the wheel is not horrible, It is better than the scrap G25. This is my opinion, and I will stay to this opinion.
+top memes Mate, 170 pound is super cheap for 3 pedals, a shifter and a wheel. If you want hardcore stuff that the pro's use expect to spend 1500 - 2000 USD on a steering system . 700-1000 on pedals. And then a shifter ranges anywhere from 200 - 500. You are buying a consumer product,of course it's plastic lol.
+wolfox712 Yup, just happend this week. The new G27 i got after i RMA'd the one in video has worn out i guess after quite a use in Dirt Rally. The evening before it worked great, no rattling or weird sounds/feel/feedback but another day i started it up with Mini classic in rallycross and the wheel went nuts with rattling - checked also in AC and did hear some rattling over curbs that wasn't present before. I'll see what i can do with it, but i know it's broken atm just like in video. Don't know if i can still RMA it (in time). The build quality of Logitech is just not the best. At least that goes for G27. Hence plastic-fantastic jokes. What i am trying to say is that G27 is better than G25 since it is really quite until it wears out. After it is worse than G25 and that wheel sound of G25 comes as a soft sound compared to horendous rattling of G27. Lowering FFB is NOT a help, it's like you need to play with FFB off.
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Didn't even know wheels did that, if mine started to do that I would poop myself.
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If you turn of vibrations you can still get a pretty strong force feedback with it. The reason behind the louder FFB might be that maybe the G27 has faster motors and it can vibrate quicker. Although I'm really happy with mine, you just have to turn down FFB a bit to be quiet at night.
I got a G27 for 2 years now and it makes the same rattle even from the box. Though it hasnt caused me any problems and is still working perfectly fine after harsh use in drifting in games like Assetto corsa and LFS.
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tjaa just turn it aggressively left and right then turn it on and off and repeat. I know it sounds weird but it works.
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The rattling noise on the g27 is due to the spring supported counter bearings for the FFB motors. When the FFB motors actuate it compresses the counter bearing spring. By faulty design however there is too much wiggle room and the counter bearing is moved back creating the god awful rattle. I saw a tutorial to fix this by installing an 8mm nut and bolt behind the spring to reduce the wiggle room, and that seemed to work for some others however i don't know if i'm ready to take apart my g27 and start drilling.
you have your degrees of rotation on the wrong setting for these wheels, it should be set to 900.
lol the noise is due to bad settings like having road effects too high set profiler to 100-0-0-0-900 and in game 70 gain and all other effects at 0 and it will be silent and be sure to set 900 dg in game too
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The G25 sounds like its gonna break at anytime wtf ;-;
Awesome video tho :)
That's cause older steering wheels didn't have all the newer stuff. All older steering wheels were noisy
Yeah its just a loud wheel, I've had mine since launch and its still going strong now ha
Near the very end I was watching your desk. Every time the force feeedback came on, it looked like it was shaking Hell out of your desk :D
Nothing wrong with the wheel , lower your FFB settings in profiler.
Profiler settings for g27 in Assetto Corsa:
70%
0%
0%
0%
720 degrees
Setttings in Assetto Corsa Advanced tab:
Gain 100%
Filter 0%
Damping 0%
Min Force 0%
Kerb Effects 30%
Road Effects 20%
Slip Effects 5%
Yes, i agree. I've been using similar settings for a long time. It's just that devs still use very 'stupid' settings as default for G series, lol. Kinda frustrating when you need to play with settings for days and just want to enjoy for an hour or two a day...
Woah, I didn't even know racing games got this serious. Some people really really like racing games. Holy crap. Cool.
Where've you been for the past few years? In cave?! :-P
Joke aside, sims have come to a new level of realism. I am talking about rFactor 2, Assetto Corsa (own both)... triple display for more FOV, Oculus Rift and much more just to add a little more to realism.
you should see the high end wheels.
You should see them now
@@Yukanhayt-Mhenow yeah I got really into it for a while after this comment. I realized that the high end wheels were out of my price range so I dropped it for now. The cheaper ones just don't feel right as far as realism goes. But boy learning to drift in Assetto Corsa sure was fun.
I experienced exactly this rattling with my last G27.
As I had another G27 before, I know that not all of them produce this loud rattling sound. With the old one, you could hear hardly any noise when going hard over curbs or something else. Only at very high FFB settings there was a little bit of rattling, which is normal because of the helical bearing.
If I were you I, would contact the dealer or the logitech support, in order to change the wheel.
Could you please do me a favour and take a look at the serialnumber of your G27 (it's located on the bottom of wheelbase).
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Thanks for your comment! I'm still in need of help, some people say it is normal to behave like that but i just can't play AC anymore on it. Even on much lowered settings i can feel it. Now it's stuck in my head...
Hope Logitech does something.
M/N: W-U0001
P/N: 841-000042
Sssaga Benches According to the P/N number you posted, you got the same crappy old version of the G27 as I got last year.
In the meantime there were released at least two newer versions of the G27. Newest one is the G27 Refresh (P/N: 941-000092) which was released in the middle of last year. The predecessor of the newest version has P/N: 941-000045.
So you see that your dealer gave you a very old G27.
This huge rattling which is shown in your video is NOT acceptable!!!
I know by my own experience that there are G27s on the market, which don't produce such a noise.
So you should talk to your dealer. If he doesn't want to exchange your wheel, contact the logitech support and submit them your video. I'm sure that they will find a solution which will satisfy you.
So I wish you good luck!
Thank You for this info!
the only downside of G25/27 are the footedals potmeters that need to be cleaned every couple of months
for the rest i never had the need to upgrade from the G25,,its still sufficient and even better as the g27 if you accept it has less buttons and no shifterlights
the internal upgrades done to G27 are not nessacarily a step forwards
got my G25 in 2009 ,and if it ever breaks ill be getting another
bassax7045 gearbox is better with G27 but it lacks sequential. Don't get me wrong, i come from EU so H all the way but when a car has seq. shifter like in many leagues i want to drive as it should be driven :)
In this case it's a letdown but due to imroved H shifting. Good thing mods exist.
Sssaga Benches thru,, the shifter is more solid ,but NO H shift change knob,,nifty lights on it too,,but the FFB gearing in the wheelbase is better designed in the good old G25,,in the G27 they bend the ends
but overall pretty similiar decent wheels
+bassax7045 There is no need for shiftlight, you can use your smartphone as well :-)
to be honest i don't even notice those rpm lights. Just a decorative thing.
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Do anyone know why they removed that function to switch between tiptronic and manual on the gearbox on the G27?
it was too cool
The paddles make it pointless from a money saving business view...
I want a g27 cause that shifter looks awesome
I'm here with a DFGT :/
the g27 looks like its having a seizure in the video
According to some users it is natural (yes, NATURAL!) that it behaves like that. If not, it will in time with usage. G27 uses different approach.
''seizure''
Thanks for the daily dose of laughter. Cracks me up every time :)
there nothing spécial in the shifter
BlueJays King It looks beautiful. Isn't it an H-Shifter or something? My DFGT is just sequential ;(
Maaz S both G 25 & G27 are H-shifters and paddle shifters. G25 also has sequential shifthing mode - rally mode or a nice handbrake usage if using paddles :)
Omg, how can you drive in game with so wrong settings?
I want the G27 to get started and to teach myself to drive a Manual transmission
It doesn't really work like that but ok
@ExcZist's Studio It is not possible to get your license in 14 days. By your lack of grammar it's not likely that you're 25 aswell.
@ExcZist's Studio English isn't even my first language & I can speak/type it better than you. You can't skip for that long, you'll get kicked out of your school. Even so your parents won't let you stay at home. Stop lying kid.
Swooty there is a such thing as dropping out of school. At least here in the United States there is.
@ExcZist's Studio Then why didn't you say it earlier!? You said you skipped school, how the fuck do you skip being HOMESCHOOLED!!!?????
2:41 I actually find why I always hear a drill from the neighbors :D:D:D
0:42 lol it moved by itself! is that normal?
Yes.
Is the G25 still a good wheel in 2019?
No prefer the g27 or g29 or on Xbox g920 sorry for my english im french
@@thefalloutfan I've already bought the G25 as it was cheaper but anyway its really good wheel with good force feedback I was on budget but still really nice wheel.
@@droopy2228ok me i have g27
Droopy222 What games do you play and how would you recommend I set it up for the best performance? I just bought the G25 recently.
I get this rattle from my G27 in AC also. I get some rattles in iRacing with FFB turned up to 20+ when driving down a straight then braking hard so the wheels lock up. same noise like a vibrating clatter, I have been speaking to the seller of my G27 but I really don't want the faff of sending it back and I can't work out if this is normal or not or if my wheel is knackered. One thing I will advise is to push the stumps for clamping down and lock them in place, if you feel the locking stumps when not pressed they move / wobble and make some noise. Pushing them down then locking them in place with a slight turn stops them from rattling but of course this is a very minor difference made.
why is it jamming to the right like that?
I'm pretty new in the racing wheel stuff, is this normal?
No it's not normal but just turn it aggressively to the left and right and restart it
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I like better the G25, In games (i-racing, automobilista, A.Corsa, ..rfactor2...and so) the FFB, and whatever these wheels can give to your hands, the G25 is Perfect.
To me the G27 is like a broken G25
Yea, and btw the g35 has the most ffb cause of the straighr gears inside, this is why it is so loud
My G27 isn't that loud and banging. And i also don't use that much FFB. I feal every bump through it but it's never twitchy in an uncomfortable/ridiculous way. I really feel it but it's never as if the steering wheel is trying to break loose from your grip. Always trying to perfect the steering to be as smooth and accurate and still be as realistic as possible in the game, in that way everything feels right and the car does almost exactly what i want. The car and controls in 99% sync, the only thing i would wish for is if the steering wheel had is a steering lock function so you could adjust it to the game, because in racing the steering is locked to 180 or less degrees so it would be nice if i could lock my steering as well.
Roffel Swagman Try the g25.
If you are in to realism and driving older cars. You need more force feedback to get the feel of the cars.
g25 is much tronger.
I had to modify my g27 to get rid of the wheel play and rattle sound when driving on curbs. Wheel play comes when turning/adjusting at high speed.
This is because of the FFB going through heli cut gears witch moves.
I know this because i have dismantle the g27 put a lot of work into getting rid of the rattle and wheel play. Now it only lack the power of the g25.
I would trade my g27 in a g25 any day
same problem in g27, the feedback is more noisy when i turn right, thats a common problem for all g27. the noisy is made by a small white piston connected at the feedback engine. in internet there is a fix that usa a bolt and a screw
which one is which? which one was noisy and which one was ok?
G25 is the one with noise. g27 the other one
Hey, do you have any ideea why is your G27 calibrates twice during boot-up? I have the same issue with my G25 on a Asus M5a99x evo and it's driving me nuts. What mobo do you have?
I have no idea too. Faulty unit i guess or just G27 feature.
My mobo is Gigabyte EX58-UD5.
G25 calibrates only once also on Gigabyte MAFXT790-UD5P
Sssaga Benches My G27 only calibrates once upon startup
Well, mine was bought from a buddy and it only calibrated once on startup, but at my place it does that twice. To be honest, I wish it didn't at all. It just sounds like it's going to break itself, not to mention it makes my monitor tremble on the desk and waking everybody in the house...stupid Logitech engineers.
Twice and its normal for asus motherboard.
i think what happend with ur g 25 is the gears have worn so there is no grips on them
Sssagaman your G27 sounds too noisy. I think it is faulty. Did you send back already?
I have a DFGT and now i found a way to connect g25/g27 pedals to it. I have to buy a used one. That could be a strong combination, becuase that wheel is less loud than g24/g27 and there are a lot of buttons already located on it
I'd love to have the G27 because it looks so epic
@Draax Im guessing the G27 would be better than the other model since its an improved version?
Something is stuck in motor gears or a loose part may be you should open it and check?
RMA'd it and got new wheel. Still makes the same noises just at much lower level.
:/ they are making poor quality wheels now :P
2020?
what kind of program did you use in video ?
after all this time, what you prefer and recommend? G25 or G27?
Cheers
Whatever you get cheaper.
At least not as noisy as driving force GT but damn, it still does it's job.
I wish Logitech would release a new wheel. I am still using a Logitech Wingman Formula Force GP wheel. It still works like new. Logitech wheels last forever. But I don't really want to buy a G27 cause they have been around for at least 4 years. Still no news of a new wheel yet though so I guess I'm gonna have to buy the G27 simply for an upgrade. But it would be nice to see a newer wheel hit the market.
The G27 has been refreshed. The only differences I can work out are the box.
The G25 is having a stroke while also having a mental shutdown
Which one you prefer by forcefeedback and vibratio for assetto corsa? g25 or 27?
So which one is the g27 and the g25 now? I´d like to buy myself one of those aswell and i dont really know whats less noisy/better now
***** Wow, i serously forgot to add that :/ I thought people knew it by default when searching pc wheel ^^
Anyway, 0:12 left=G27, right=G25
OP
1:30 ye i think its normal because it does that in every wheel
My MOMO pedal's gave out on me.
I'm buying a used G25 for a good price, it's an impulse buy.
Is it a mistake not waiting and saving some more money for a used G27 or I'm fine with the G25.
For example G27 would be around 60 euroes more over the used G25 price, but it's harder to find.
+Ivan Kolić I still use both wheels, well G25 is driven by bro. We both have custom diy homemade wooden playseats (finally we can drive them beasts as it's meant) and compete in assetto corsa against each other :)
Both wheels are great, take cheaper one.
Thanks for the reply. I'm going to pick up the G25 on Tuesday. I'm so stocked :) It's a huge difference over the MOMO wheel.
I'm also playing AC.
Ivan Kolić you could also get DFGT as it uses same motors as G25 so FFB is good, also 900° rotation, has seq. shifter but the downside is plastic pedals (no clutch).
Friend who races F1 mods in rFactor 2 is driving on it and has alien skills. Numerous guys claiming he's cheated (league racing) yet i've seen him in person at my house lap a fantastic lap on my G27 which he never drove before. He did mention a stronger ffb and better wheel though (apart from much stiffer brake pedal :D). But G27 does use helical gears, a bit different aproach to G25 but to me it's the same ffb in precision & strength. It's just that most G25 are a bit loud when turning wheel, yet another friend has picked a G25 which is almost silent. It's also a matter of how lucky you get with a pick :)
+Sssaga Benches Yeah I know about the DFGT. I can almost get a new one for the price of this used G25. But I want the stick shift and the clutch for manual transmission cars in AC. And I want to learn to heel toe.
Also I hate the pedals on DFGT cause they're basically the same as MOMO's which have given me too much frustration with spiking, and modding with replacing pots.
Dawid
I'm pretty sure that the reason that the G27 makes those noises is because of the helical gears that it has. This is why it is quieter than the G25 but makes those noises.
Yes. That's the downside. The G27 does that rattling when turning right because the teeth are angled to that direction but when you're turning left it's quiet. I have a G27 and i've had a half year experience with it and 1.5 years with a DFGT so i know what's what.
Gustav1337
Thank You! Just what i wanted to hear.
Gustav1337 My G27 has never made any noise... until recently it makes very quiet rattle sounds if the FFB is extra intense.. nothing anywhere near this and 99% of the time it's totally silent. I've had it for like four years.
ConnorWolf Thanks for your feedback! May i ask what settings you use in LP (global & specific) and in-game.
Thank you!
Sssaga Benches On Gran Turismo 6 I currently use 8 (down from 9) out of 10, on LFS (which is the only PC sim I play right now) the FFB felt stronger than that wherever I had it set. (my settings were lost a while back and I haven't set it up again) I probably used it above the point of clipping on LFS more than a few times but there's no point to use it that high. I like strong FFB, though.
So the wheel makes noise only when the "feedback" thing is activated?
What If I just deactivate it and play without feedback, will any of the wheels still make noises?
It wont male any noise
+Abra Cadabra Why would you want to play without FFB? Just curious.
Sssaga Benches To not play with the sound...
I really just want to shift and steer without any BS , last time I tested a wheel the FFB was just some "vibrations" and they were annoying.
Also, now that Logitech released the G29 which isn't even compatible with older games all the stores in my country stopped selling G27 and G25, so my only chance is buying second-hand
Abra Cadabra
Trust me, you'll want FFB. Problem is, you need good settings for best FFB possible in specific PC game/car.
Run rFactor 2 demo (freeware) and you'll see the best possible FFB the G25/27/29 can give you :)
Problem is that you need to lower (overall) FFB effects so the motors can output the proper feedback otherwise you get meesed up info in your hands if the FFB is too strong for both motors. Thus loud sound.
Always run logitech profiler with fixed settings and do change only in game menu. That goes for all games. Or you could run specified settings in profiler for each game.
I need hour or two just to get optimal FFB when i test new sim-racing game.
Also, G25 has a bit different FFB as G27/G29 but all of them are in same league.
No worth buying new G29 when you can get G25 in good shape for quarter the price.
+Sssaga Benches Which one do you prefer 25 or 27? I don't care about the noise as long as it is normal operation.
Which do you think is more durable.
Just wondering as I plan to buy used one and need to know what to look and listen for so as not to buy one that is near worn out on its last legs.
Only issue I have read was center calibration issues which I believe can be easily fixed but lower the value of a used unit.
Would improper FFB setting cause premature wear and tear?
Anything else?
Thanks for your advice in advance.
Just got mine in, been using it for a week. Maybe its your PC?
I just bought a g27 And it does not make noise like that. Has a lot more ffb though. If I set it to 200 degree rotation it can actually hurt hands. 450 degree is perfect for gt5 and gt6 though. The standard 900 degrees is too sloppy and the ffb is kinda weak
I had a problem with the FFB of my g27 but it fixed itself I don't know how.
I own DFGT and its making that same noise but when turning left not right. Dealer says that it is the way it should be... To me it sems like there is something wrong with it.
hey man i was wondering if you could use the g25 pedals on the g27 thanks
Them thing are REALLY good dancers
Thisd is not a dance off, it's more of a cage fight.
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what are you doing when pushing the buttons at the beginning? really curious , never have seen this done.
how do you get g25 working on win 11
install the drivers in compatiblity mode if it not install normal
2:26 chainsaw
I have a g25 but the force feedback motors sound wierd once I turn 45 degrees and is constant after that, any clues? Might just pull it apart again for the 5th time
sounds like there's a washer loose where the wheel connects to the hub; where the top of the steering column would be
False on wood is the sound louder
Diepenth Diepe Are you trying to say that mounted on steel/aluminium bars it will be less louder?
Sssaga Benches I would assume so go knock on Solid wood and then knock on a solid METAL\ALU surface should be much more quiet... His desk rattles a little
Sssaga Benches The wood does rattle a lot, From how mines set up It doesn't rattle nearly as much.
XxTheUndeadxX 177 that can make a different
I have mine on harder wood and it doesn't rattle a bit, Only the slight noise from the game, (besides the glitchy cars in Project cars) the karts mess with the wheel and it rattles to the point you can't play without all around turrning off force feedback.
I had the same problem with the G27 at 1:23 , conslusion: Buying G29
Until you get same problem. G29 is NOT an improvement at all.
It was normal, just a ffb test, OMG, G27 was better than G29, in ffb, in button, in amount of things
if you have those additional ffb effects in AC turned on... like the kerb effect.. it's normal..
I personally turned them all off.. because that are just additional "fake" effects which they putted in because some people wanted these... but it is not the "truth" of whats happening so I turned them off and have just the pure "real" ffb which doesn't rattle like that..
and btw if you think this is bad.. try rfactor 2 without ffb smoother... lol.. I thought I can put my wheel into a trashbin after a drive there.. you think the wheel will explode :D
bro this is very nice video. you helped me decide what to buy thank you
Thank you. Do check description box for more info.
It doesn't like being touched by the looks of it
You are RIGHT on the money !!
I do have a g27 my self and experience`d every single word you wrote in comparison to he g25..
But since the g25 is out of sale i made modifications to the g27.
No rattle or wheel play in curbs or when turning between right and left at high speed withe very little movement but much force.
It took me a day to dismantle and put it back, and still i would choose the g25 just because it has more force feedback power.
majonesn
So there's nothing LEFT anymore to say about it, RIGHT?
^^
Sssaga Benches haha... LEFT a nice comment there ;)
Just go for the g25 wheel. It`s a risky business to modify it. Im about to find a suitable replacement for this application and sell it as optional. I don`t want to reveal it before the option is available. But the wheel play and noise is going to disappear .
Yeah, thats something most people tend to do whenever they by something "expensive".. Just fall in love with the god damn thing.
If you like to drive older cars, the bigger G27 gives more realistic feel to it with the ability of almost 100% more force feedback even with the bigger wheel.
Because of the heli cut gears, some of the torque goes "horizontally", pushing the gears "sideways"... Don`t know if i explained this in a understandable way. Pardon my English (i`m from Norway)
But please do the upgrade when i get the parts available. The buttons and noise reduction is a nice thing to have if you don`t live alone in the house.. :P
I will reveal the upgrade here within a few months i hope. Then you can choose to buy or diy. ;)
train more on the shifting, i'm not being a troll.
same here. My g25 is broken after 7 years, and i have a new g27 and the FFb is noisy as hell... is better in some aspects but is worse in others.
wally19 Whow, crazy. My g25 just gave out after 7 years too, and I also just got a g27. For me the FFB is not nearly as loud as the G25...However, to me it feels like the G27's FFB is not as sensitive when going over rumble strips for instance.
I'm not sure what you have done to your g27, but ive had mine for 4 years. i run FFB at 100% in project cars, and on iRacing pretty high also and my FFB isn't in anyway that noisy, never has been never was. I've never had a g25 so i cannot comment on that, but your g27, is unrealistically noisy.
Can u help me with a power adaptor. I am not having . So plz suggest me from which online site to buy in india
Have you found a solution to g27 problem?
I was almost going to order one of these. But thank's to your video and the response's here, I will not be ordering one. It seam's to me that Logitech has been going down hill as a company in the last few year's or so.
Both units are old verisons (G25 & G27). Later revisions are much better, friend's G25 acts much better vs this one shown in video. If you get the latest revisions of any of the units you should get it.
THAT THING IS ALIVE XDXD
klk tranqui
This is Franko
is this a tesla or why is it moving by itself?
is g25 good wheel to take in 2017 (for 120$) ?
If in good condition, that is working.
thx for the info man, also ffb wise, is logitech gt wheel ok or shoud i go to g25/7? thnx
Ivan Grbavac definitely g25 or g27
i have a g25 till 8 years and its run fine ;) and it rattles till 8 years :D
tsaimto i feel you ^^
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So who the best budget?
2:00 why tf they are getting heart attacks 😂
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mano me ajuda ai a minha direcao ta muito mas muito dura e quando coloco em opcoes pra configuirar as marchas so pega os botoes o cambio da marcha mas posicoes nao funciona. porque ??
1:32 no for g27 need 900 in settings
The G27 can sound like that thing at the back of a butcher shop at times :)
MadCape nice one!
As you can see in the real world the sound difference between the two is minimal. Get some volume on there how it should be and you won’t hear neither
You are missing the point of this video. G27 is broken here.
Also, friend has G25 which is very silent and not loud like mine (G25).
Sssaga Benches i have a g25 and it really depends what you connect it to, I have a playseat evolution and you don’t get the bangs and vibrations like you do with connecting it to a work top
I have the G27 and I can say: It is the best wheel, I ever had. It is not faulty, and it works very silent! 100x better as the G25!
+Phijaga So no issues similar to the G27 in the video?
+Sssaga Benches
No
+Phijaga g27 is the biggest piece of shit. have you ever opened one up? £170 should be a good quality wheel. no. its cheap plastic shite on the inside. the lubricant they use makes the plastic brittle and will crack. cheap shite, customer support is useless and refused to replace it under warranty and instead go to the 'retailer to return it', sorry shithead but GAME had no information what so fucking ever on warranty returns. horrible customer support, horrible build quality, 'leather' steering wheel? LOL. its noisy, it grinds the gears and its a horrible wheel.
+Will D
Hi Will,
I find it is a good wheel, I have no problems. It isn't cracking, and it works good. You have very much metal, and that is good. Some places are with plastic. I have warranty for 3 years. I find, that the wheel is not horrible, It is better than the scrap G25. This is my opinion, and I will stay to this opinion.
+top memes Mate, 170 pound is super cheap for 3 pedals, a shifter and a wheel.
If you want hardcore stuff that the pro's use expect to spend 1500 - 2000 USD on a steering system . 700-1000 on pedals. And then a shifter ranges anywhere from 200 - 500.
You are buying a consumer product,of course it's plastic lol.
i hope you can turn off the "Rumble" Function.
aTz FloyD it's force feed back -.-
+Spoon _ that was the joke lol..
how is that a joke? I don't find it funny at all...
paresiera here that do not sell . I looked everywhere and not sell :(
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perdona, podrias pasarme el programa de logitetch profiler que no lo encuentro en ningun lado. Gracias
Si! support.logitech. com/en_us/product/g27-racing-wheel#download
What is happening at 1:06 ?
my g25 still runs amazing in 2020, would you believe it
Hell yeah, I bought mine 5 months ago for a good price! I'm in love! Plus I use Android app sim dashboard that I can make a virtual button box!
I just bought a used G25, it'll arrive next week. I'm very excited because this will be my first wheel ever.
@@productivitygod7887 Yo dude i just sold my DFGT. Thinking of buying a G27 or G25. I found a G25 for cheap. Would you recommend it ?
are the paddle shifters noisy?
does anyone know about that clunck when you hit full lock on g27 is it a problem I have it and its very loud
Hey i want it for pc, to play gta v. so which one i should buy in today's date ?
Right now fry's has the g27 for 200 used I love it and recommend it
+Herobrine21704 Thankyou for you suggestion.
Not used but USD
muito top
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@@16ibyk94 aha türk
Buyur kardesim bende g29 var shifter para yetmedigi icin kendim tofas vites modifiye ettim
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@@Wrosex assetto corsa
I have a g29
I have never experienced any of this wirmerd behaiviour
Haha, just be happy you DO NOT have such issues.
I have a G27, that crazy thing doesn't happen so it's not normal. and yes I went on the profiler and properties.
happened to me..
and yes i did the same thing.
+wolfox712 Yup, just happend this week. The new G27 i got after i RMA'd the one in video has worn out i guess after quite a use in Dirt Rally. The evening before it worked great, no rattling or weird sounds/feel/feedback but another day i started it up with Mini classic in rallycross and the wheel went nuts with rattling - checked also in AC and did hear some rattling over curbs that wasn't present before. I'll see what i can do with it, but i know it's broken atm just like in video. Don't know if i can still RMA it (in time).
The build quality of Logitech is just not the best. At least that goes for G27. Hence plastic-fantastic jokes.
What i am trying to say is that G27 is better than G25 since it is really quite until it wears out. After it is worse than G25 and that wheel sound of G25 comes as a soft sound compared to horendous rattling of G27. Lowering FFB is NOT a help, it's like you need to play with FFB off.
+Sssaga Benches but i bought mine barely used lol
assetto corsa guys!
whats some games for g25 logitech im looking for some
2:23 i thought your blender was on xD
+Christian Takkebos That probably IS a blender xD
Blending the small bits of plastic and metal coming off in there.
Hopefully the milkshake was nice xD
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THE test dont damage the wheel?
Halcon Blanco
I also wonder this.
OP
that damn thing sounds like a machine gun
Headshot ??? xD
+TheDefinite Gamers XD
My Ffb doesn't make near that rattling
welches ist eigentlich besser möchte mir nemlich eins fon denen kaufen
+Chris Gilles Get the cheaper one.
did the g XX have clutch pedals?
Both G xx have a clutch.
nice! . but these thing not cheap.. ok.
yo quiero conseguir uno a donde lo compraste