I found myself getting sucked back into the melodrama of work and the stress if everything and this is exactly what I needed. Ram dass you are a real homie
I hear that. There was a time during my awakening when I didn’t know how to approach my job because I had realized that there was more to life than work. Then I remembered the importance of both honoring my incarnation and playing the roles this incarnation has in society (while being a silent observer through it all). Now I go to work with the roles I have for my boss and each of my coworkers and clients. But it’s not who I am.
Love love love it. So beautiful. Here’s a likely unpopular opinion: perhaps it wasn’t “poor Alan” after all. Perhaps Alan, as the fractal imperfectly perfect expression of source he was, with infinite free Will, made the choices he was meant to make in that particular lifetime for his highest spiritual catalyst for growth and the myriad of ways in which he impacted the lives of those around him. Ironically, a journalist for the Buddha is still a Buddha. It’s all a paradox so words become meaningless at a certain point. This is simply another of infinite perspectives. I’m not quick to judge anything or anyone ever since I see that everything has it’s divine unfolding and purpose. Often times it’s a wisdom deeper and more beyond what our monkey mind can fathom. Infinite love to all 💜💜💜
Turning to alcohol to get the high you are not getting in Samadhi is the last fig leaf the ego lurches toward to stop that frustration from overwhelming one's life. If you study the Kundalini awakening experience of Kundalini pandit Gopi Krishna hit the video icon=The terror of the destruction of his egos subconscious mind/unconscious mind revealing the superconscious mind 24/7 was incredibly difficult.But purifying the mind of all barriers to Turiya samadhi is not for the weak or faint at heart. HOW BADLY DO YOU WANT GOD vs YOUR EGOS MENTAL MACHINATIONS.?
I mean, it's hard for me to comment as an authority on Ram Dass' impression of Alan Watts. But my impression of Alan Watts is that he lived consistent with his principles.
I needed exactly this today. I’ve had anxiety about all being one. I feel loneliness and unease. I’ve had fears that everyone is not real, just people I dream up, which in a God sense is kinda true, but it’s been an unsettling time.
ua-cam.com/video/EUWSWmyWZjs/v-deo.html The more you identify as an individual the more the unease settles in and is experienced by you, its all okay, its the act of thinking as yourself as a individual while grasping at the experience of being the one that creates all the uncomfortable feelings, its all seems to be apart of the journey
Oh my gosh that’s completely normal! My take is this sounds like you are trying to identify to spirit from an ego perspective. Ego suffers in separateness. We are all connected. On a spirit level our identity will look different than a soul level. Ram Dass teaches on this I encourage you to keep asking questions. That’s how we learn: I commend you for your journey 🙏
When he put Alan Watts down in the way he did he lost me. It was a very cheap shot about a man I don't think he knew that well to say what he did in front of a large group of people. Alan thought me more in one lecture than Ram Dass ever did. Also why did he hide the fact that he was homosexual for so long? It doesn't seem like a very enlightened thing to do.
@@bordercollie1140A lot of people were in the closet.. even though homosexuality is ancient. It just sounds like your egos irritated with his comment.. I love Alan Watts. Especially the story about the astronaut. I thought Alan a Ram Dass were friends.
@@foreveryactionthereisacons1683they were friends I’ve heard in one dass lecture that they did lsd and Alan watts would talk for hours and he sounded like they were close. I don’t believe ram dass meant what he said in a negative way at all and even if it was negative I also don’t believe he holds any contempt in his heart for him at all. If he did that’s his problem and work. I’ve listened to both for hours and hours and hours they compliment eachother quite nicely. Ram dass I feel the love and rascal ness. Alan watts is on a whole other level though. I wouldn’t put it last ram dass for his actions or words to go over his head and he not understand for years. Some people don’t understand ever. Try that one on ❤
35:10 Animal Suffering 16:26 Kalu Rinpoche about Trugoa Rinpoche: when you go to the top of mountain 17:34 If you listen to my tapes everyday in traffic, you will become as neurotic as I am
I was just thinking about one of the questions posed about traumatic thoughts intruding upon meditative practice, and got me thinking about the Christian teachings of "turning the other cheek", and "If thine eyes offend thee" etc. By aligning yourself with the witness, you depersonalize perceived negative experiences, helping you live in the state of equanimity. Jesus the Christ was a true teacher of "nobodyness". The practice of fearlessly distilling with the spirit true teachings from religious dogma is a formidable task.
the feeling of seperation or closing off in your heart when getting sucked in is such a pulling phenomena it makes me attach so fast when i start to lose that feeling of peace or like heaviness
I suspect Alan Watts saw so much so deeply that it made for a very lonely life. I think he used the booze just to shut it all off and get some relief. Probably he and Trungpa knew exactly what they were doing.
WE=mc2 are never separate until the teacher shows up. ''Hey teacher, leave them kids alone!'' Ego death is what the teachers need but they want everyone else 2 need it with them. Hey, somebody, there's nobody like ME=mc2!
So far 5 minutes into his lecture he shines his opinion on someone elses journey as being less than theirs, and says weed helps you on your own journey. Ram dass always had trouble really acting through his truth, but acting beside it.
3 days after taking a Kundalini workshop in Laguna Beach California 1992 the Kundalini master from India performed Shakti pat on us.I did not feel anything supernatural at that time. 3 nights later during my meditation I saw my inner eye turn into a spiral sucking me into a black-warm-velvety soft VOID=A total disconnect from the egos mental machinations/the UNCONSCIOUS MIND.
Amazing! But it will not work for 98% of the audience but you yourself know that! The fact is that Tolle's "Pain Body" turns out to have a physical body too, which works reflexively, automatically and constantly! You must discover it in yourself first!
I didn't appreciate the animal question answer because humans directly cause a lot of suffering for animals even though we dont need to and many of us dont. Even to eat an animal doesn't require sustained suffering yet many humans cause sustained suffering. To just observe I think is contributing to even more suffering.
I doubt that Alan Watts would have ever publicly called Ram Dass the narcissist he was. Both men delivered the message but I've always liked Watts better.
@@alsdean Sorry for late reply. To my ears, Ram Dass did a lot of "humble bragging", seemed to take an invisible bow for his work with the dying and AIDS patients, and his "profound" sighs seemed affected to me. I didn't care for the way he would ask "is this all too much for you?" to his listeners, it smacked of superiority. I think Ram Dass was quite aware of his ego demons and I believe he did speak of this after his stroke. He did have some excellent insights without a doubt and I listen to him for these and (try to) disregard the narcissism.
The good stuff doesn't start till 14:00. When you listen to these videos, look thru the comments, usually someone has already chimed in with the timestamp of where the stuff begins we all came for. I don't know why they always waste time with those ridiculous intros.
yeah the actual rock in space, earth, isn't going anywhere. It's "just" the ecosystem, most spiecies, most of humanity, it's so fucking sad and dystopian
@@TheCrowDream I like this answer , whatever it means.. it's the energy I like.. I will go with Alan Watts.. yes I am not perfect .. I can be a scoundrel.. I acted out that day.. humm .. I now will sing... It's a sign of the times. lol.. Not talking it all so seriously at this .. now.
He still has a great message and can articulate the concepts better than most. As Ram pointed out, Alan knew the way very well....he just got trapped in his incarnation and he eventually knows it, he admits it in a few of his lectures. Ram Dass and Alan Watts had a great relationship, I think it was a little rocky in the beginning. They are both great.
@@richardgoodrich4783 I’ve listened to several of his videos and it’s difficult for me to follow and it’s the same thing for me when I’ve studied at the university or other places, I can feel the discrepancy in them and it becomes difficult for me to even listen. I think we can just agree to disagree and that not everyone is for everyone. I listened a lot to Osho when I first started on my path and in one of his lectures Ram Dass says that he has no business with Rajnesh and I respect that.
Dass makes a mixture of many mystical beliefs and present it as the truth. Watts is a pure pantheist. He didn't want to be called a guru or to impose any believe system. Dass didn't understand Watts, otherwise he would know that one cannot change himself. Further his complaining about drunkenness is awkward when he himself is overloaded with drug abuse. This interview with him is painful to watch. ua-cam.com/video/PJOAyvzJmuo/v-deo.html
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I found myself getting sucked back into the melodrama of work and the stress if everything and this is exactly what I needed. Ram dass you are a real homie
I hear that. There was a time during my awakening when I didn’t know how to approach my job because I had realized that there was more to life than work. Then I remembered the importance of both honoring my incarnation and playing the roles this incarnation has in society (while being a silent observer through it all). Now I go to work with the roles I have for my boss and each of my coworkers and clients. But it’s not who I am.
@@chillrick2602 right on friend.
@@chillrick2602 turn no stone, and no stone is left unturned
Ram Dass starts talking at 14:02 thanks Ragu.
Ram ram!
Thank you so much
lol, yea... I've found the transition usually happens around 13 or 14 minutes. Thanks Ragu 😍
What a super proper and appropriate way to delineate the space between Raghu and RD. I really dig the way you recognized the Both. Beautiful!
Thank you Raghu!!
Good introduction. Ram Dass starts at 14:00 talking about teachers who drink & goes on to many other helpful thoughts.
Thank you.
Love love love it. So beautiful. Here’s a likely unpopular opinion: perhaps it wasn’t “poor Alan” after all. Perhaps Alan, as the fractal imperfectly perfect expression of source he was, with infinite free Will, made the choices he was meant to make in that particular lifetime for his highest spiritual catalyst for growth and the myriad of ways in which he impacted the lives of those around him. Ironically, a journalist for the Buddha is still a Buddha. It’s all a paradox so words become meaningless at a certain point. This is simply another of infinite perspectives. I’m not quick to judge anything or anyone ever since I see that everything has it’s divine unfolding and purpose. Often times it’s a wisdom deeper and more beyond what our monkey mind can fathom. Infinite love to all 💜💜💜
Beautifully said dear one!❤️❤️❤️
Turning to alcohol to get the high you are not getting in Samadhi is the last fig leaf the ego lurches toward to stop that frustration from overwhelming one's life.
If you study the Kundalini awakening experience of Kundalini pandit Gopi Krishna hit the video icon=The terror of the destruction of his egos subconscious mind/unconscious mind revealing the superconscious mind 24/7 was incredibly difficult.But purifying the mind of all barriers to Turiya samadhi is not for the weak or faint at heart.
HOW BADLY DO YOU WANT GOD vs YOUR EGOS MENTAL MACHINATIONS.?
Ram Das feels like “home”
I love each and every one of yall 🖤
This is one of his best IMO. 😊
I mean, it's hard for me to comment as an authority on Ram Dass' impression of Alan Watts. But my impression of Alan Watts is that he lived consistent with his principles.
Calm down they were all homies and hung out often and got along
Didn't expect that Alan Watts comment out of the gate!!
My God, if Ram Dass impersonating Aldous Huxley isn't the absolute best thing I've ever heard. ❤️ 😂🤣
Thanks Ragu Sauce!
Ragu sauce ❤
Funny how Alan Watts saw himself as just an entertainer yet carried more insight and true enlightenment than any of his contemporaries
Of being drunk and not drunk - drunk from others karma....
I needed exactly this today. I’ve had anxiety about all being one. I feel loneliness and unease. I’ve had fears that everyone is not real, just people I dream up, which in a God sense is kinda true, but it’s been an unsettling time.
Ill recommend you get magic mushroom it helped me on my anxiety,I was referred to this mate..
Mycodree
Hes on instagrem,
ua-cam.com/video/EUWSWmyWZjs/v-deo.html The more you identify as an individual the more the unease settles in and is experienced by you, its all okay, its the act of thinking as yourself as a individual while grasping at the experience of being the one that creates all the uncomfortable feelings, its all seems to be apart of the journey
Oh my gosh that’s completely normal! My take is this sounds like you are trying to identify to spirit from an ego perspective. Ego suffers in separateness. We are all connected. On a spirit level our identity will look different than a soul level. Ram Dass teaches on this I encourage you to keep asking questions. That’s how we learn: I commend you for your journey 🙏
His Q&A’s are amazing! Just like his stories!
I wouldn't be so quick to write off Alan Watts..
I didn't feel he was writing him off, just expressing one of his experiences with him.
When he put Alan Watts down in the way he did he lost me. It was a very cheap shot about a man I don't think he knew that well to say what he did in front of a large group of people. Alan thought me more in one lecture than Ram Dass ever did. Also why did he hide the fact that he was homosexual for so long? It doesn't seem like a very enlightened thing to do.
@@bordercollie1140A lot of people were in the closet.. even though homosexuality is ancient. It just sounds like your egos irritated with his comment.. I love Alan Watts. Especially the story about the astronaut. I thought Alan a Ram Dass were friends.
@@foreveryactionthereisacons1683they were friends I’ve heard in one dass lecture that they did lsd and Alan watts would talk for hours and he sounded like they were close. I don’t believe ram dass meant what he said in a negative way at all and even if it was negative I also don’t believe he holds any contempt in his heart for him at all. If he did that’s his problem and work. I’ve listened to both for hours and hours and hours they compliment eachother quite nicely. Ram dass I feel the love and rascal ness. Alan watts is on a whole other level though. I wouldn’t put it last ram dass for his actions or words to go over his head and he not understand for years. Some people don’t understand ever. Try that one on ❤
Man killed himself with alcohol should not be followed like model for peaceful life
So many peaks of wisdom in this! I love your intro!!
Thank you for posting - wonderful wisdom, amazing teacher.
35:10 Animal Suffering
16:26 Kalu Rinpoche about Trugoa Rinpoche: when you go to the top of mountain
17:34 If you listen to my tapes everyday in traffic, you will become as neurotic as I am
I’m so glad to hear a sponsor on this podcast!! Love better help!! Love love love!
Thank you Raghu
Thanks Ragu!
I was just thinking about one of the questions posed about traumatic thoughts intruding upon meditative practice, and got me thinking about the Christian teachings of "turning the other cheek", and "If thine eyes offend thee" etc. By aligning yourself with the witness, you depersonalize perceived negative experiences, helping you live in the state of equanimity. Jesus the Christ was a true teacher of "nobodyness". The practice of fearlessly distilling with the spirit true teachings from religious dogma is a formidable task.
listened to this ep a few times thru and every time Ram Dass at 19:31 goes "its-a-just-a-yoga" I die laughing
Thank you for this key ❤
14:05 it starts
Watts baby!!
amazing ram dass
Jai Jai Ram Dass
the feeling of seperation or closing off in your heart when getting sucked in is such a pulling phenomena it makes me attach so fast when i start to lose that feeling of peace or like heaviness
14:00
Thanks
In Alan 10,000 watts’ defense, “ now you see it,….. now you don’t” the hide and seek theory reigns supreme.
Im interested to know how the zen master takes care of the drunk man on the japanese train while being just quiet and peaceful
He was engaging, not quiet...it was all about love.
I suspect Alan Watts saw so much so deeply that it made for a very lonely life. I think he used the booze just to shut it all off and get some relief. Probably he and Trungpa knew exactly what they were doing.
I dunno dude, the more you see of this stuff it feels like you get more and more free
Not sure if Ram Dass is misjudging Alan here. I'd say Alan was so enlightened that being a drunk wasn't a problem for him.
WE=mc2 are never separate until the teacher shows up.
''Hey teacher, leave them kids alone!'' Ego death is what
the teachers need but they want everyone else 2 need it
with them. Hey, somebody, there's nobody like ME=mc2!
💙
So far 5 minutes into his lecture he shines his opinion on someone elses journey as being less than theirs, and says weed helps you on your own journey. Ram dass always had trouble really acting through his truth, but acting beside it.
3 days after taking a Kundalini workshop in Laguna Beach California 1992 the Kundalini master from India performed Shakti pat on us.I did not feel anything supernatural at that time.
3 nights later during my meditation I saw my inner eye turn into a spiral sucking me into a black-warm-velvety soft VOID=A total disconnect from the egos mental machinations/the UNCONSCIOUS MIND.
4 hours ago and 5 dried grams later
Me too man. Me too.
The preamble to these talks are always very skippable. Perhaps time stamps can save some of your listeners time and disappointment
Yesss
Raghu loves to hear himself talk.
There is a famous drunken Buddha ! 🍺
Amazing! But it will not work for 98% of the audience but you yourself know that! The fact is that Tolle's "Pain Body" turns out to have a physical body too, which works reflexively, automatically and constantly! You must discover it in yourself first!
I didn't appreciate the animal question answer because humans directly cause a lot of suffering for animals even though we dont need to and many of us dont. Even to eat an animal doesn't require sustained suffering yet many humans cause sustained suffering. To just observe I think is contributing to even more suffering.
Love
14:04 Ram Dass starts talking
it is hard to stay balanced in this mess, in every way.
Video starts at 14:00
Starts around 14 minutes in
-41.05 ram. Dass starts
∞ Love ^
🙏🏼
Why he was making fun like that about Huxley?
I doubt that Alan Watts would have ever publicly called Ram Dass the narcissist he was. Both men delivered the message but I've always liked Watts better.
Could you explain what in ram dass makes you think that, I‘m curious:)
@@alsdean Sorry for late reply. To my ears, Ram Dass did a lot of "humble bragging", seemed to take an invisible bow for his work with the dying and AIDS patients, and his "profound" sighs seemed affected to me. I didn't care for the way he would ask "is this all too much for you?" to his listeners, it smacked of superiority.
I think Ram Dass was quite aware of his ego demons and I believe he did speak of this after his stroke.
He did have some excellent insights without a doubt and I listen to him for these and (try to) disregard the narcissism.
@@candidlyspeaking9761
I completely agree
Good god get into the talk. I appreciate all this guy does but 12 minutes in and it’s been 3 commercials and just pointless rambling
The good stuff doesn't start till 14:00. When you listen to these videos, look thru the comments, usually someone has already chimed in with the timestamp of where the stuff begins we all came for. I don't know why they always waste time with those ridiculous intros.
yeah the actual rock in space, earth, isn't going anywhere. It's "just" the ecosystem, most spiecies, most of humanity, it's so fucking sad and dystopian
40.10
Honestly I think it’s about to get heavier, quicker quick. 😕
14 minutes of? what.. what is it about me that I cant listen and just so angry at the ist 14 min. well I dont actually
If I could perfect my patience in 14 minutes it would be pure bliss. Jao!
@@TheCrowDream I like this answer , whatever it means.. it's the energy I like.. I will go with Alan Watts.. yes I am not perfect .. I can be a scoundrel.. I acted out that day.. humm .. I now will sing... It's a sign of the times. lol.. Not talking it all so seriously at this .. now.
Why do you people babble so? Everyone is here for Ram, just get to it already.
14.00 mins of absolute drivel at the start
100%. Idk why they insist on doing that.
Wow, this explains why I can’t listen to Alan Watts… it doesn’t resonate and it’s prob bc he was coming from mind.
He still has a great message and can articulate the concepts better than most. As Ram pointed out, Alan knew the way very well....he just got trapped in his incarnation and he eventually knows it, he admits it in a few of his lectures. Ram Dass and Alan Watts had a great relationship, I think it was a little rocky in the beginning. They are both great.
@@richardgoodrich4783 I’ve listened to several of his videos and it’s difficult for me to follow and it’s the same thing for me when I’ve studied at the university or other places, I can feel the discrepancy in them and it becomes difficult for me to even listen.
I think we can just agree to disagree and that not everyone is for everyone.
I listened a lot to Osho when I first started on my path and in one of his lectures Ram Dass says that he has no business with Rajnesh and I respect that.
Dass makes a mixture of many mystical beliefs and present it as the truth. Watts is a pure pantheist. He didn't want to be called a guru or to impose any believe system. Dass didn't understand Watts, otherwise he would know that one cannot change himself. Further his complaining about drunkenness is awkward when he himself is overloaded with drug abuse. This interview with him is painful to watch. ua-cam.com/video/PJOAyvzJmuo/v-deo.html
Couldn't get into Watts
Can't DO Watts...
Funny how the be here now channel went woke lmao