Growing up is realising the tale of the Gracie family is just that; a tale. They portrayed themselves as these pioneers of an indefensible martial art when most of bjj was just repackaged Kosen Judo they learnt from Maeda. They portrayed the “Gracie challenge” as honourable combat when most of it was just going around Brazil and jumping people in the streets. The UFC 1 bracket was handpicked by Rorion Gracie to give Royce the best chance of winning. The story of the Gracie family is one of the biggest white washes in the history of martial arts.
I dont know about the brackets. I would have avoided Shamrock at all costs rather than possibly face him in the 2nd round. Boxing was the most feared art and Rovce got that match in round 1. Kevin Rosier probably had the easiest bracket if he had made it all the way.
Sad, some people want to train bjj to replace growing up in gangs, then find out the art they're attracted to has a 'gang culture'. Bullying of sorts. Good on Cub for following his bliss and rising above the political BS
@@Alanaboo912at this point, there are so many Gracie affiliates that it's really not reasonable to lock someone out for that. A lot of these affiliates don't even like each other
I'm not surprised, I was an instructor for a gracie academy in southern California, they're childish af. Nearly 50yrs old beefing like a teenager. I had to resign because of all the drama.
Been hearing about this more and more. My son’s friend dad trains BJJ for a lil over a decade and he’s told me stories within, like their mini bullies. Mean to people. Just nasty work. He’s gotten away and trains at smaller gyms
For everybody wondering about the green and yellow belt. It's not that it's disrespectful it's just an extra lever for somebody to grab onto. That whole gym sucks that they wouldn't let him train. That's why it's so important to find a well rounded gym that does it all and you can remain loyal to.
Love the whole thing about him basically training by working as an affiliate. I spent a few years broke and working odd jobs to keep up to date with child support, and the gym I go to allowed me to train if I did odd jobs in the gym. It's a blessing that some BJJ profs are cool like that.
They all have a level of pride that sometimes gets in the way. But Renzo seems me the coolest one. At least nowadays. I was at a strikeforce event one time while he was there walking around. I had my camera out and was videoing some fighters walking past. He saw me and thought I was taking a picture. So he paused for a second to allow me to take the picture. But after about five seconds I told him I was videotaping. Then he took a step towards me and gave me a fake liver punch all while having a giant grin on his face. Still made me flinch a lot. Then we both had a little chuckle. I have video to prove it. Lol
Most of his fights until he could snag something up. He did the Homer Simpson technique essentially. Ortega did the same, but at least be could strike at a pretty good level while he was piling up the CTE. And it shows because look what he believes in lol. He’s a conspiracy doofus. But yeah so funny to me when people are like “they have such a great chin” Yes yes he sure can take brain damage and not improve their striking or striking defense for the next fight like no one I’ve ever seen 😂😂😂
lol I never realized that in MMA the ONLY person he beat who wasn’t a nobody or have a 50-50 record was alex caceres Dude was pretty mediocre at MMA at medium level and walked around like a badass in the UFC, and went 1-2 only beating caceres 😂😂 I thought he had actually beat someone of note besides caceres. Which is a good win but.. not that great. Dude really drank his own cool aid in bjj and thought it would magically transfer to mma even though his striking is 💩 lol
UFC should have hyped the shit out of the backstory. I just wanted to see what Kron could do against a legit striker with some takedown defense. That's a 47 Ronin style revenge plot.
I remember that at the US Open, I won my weight division and they tried to pull the same shit with me. They had a gang of guys up from Brazil competing, whoever won the US open was to rep America at the World’s in Brazil that year. The only guy that ended up going from the American team was Egan Inoue. Forgot all about it, until I heard Cub’s story.
Man I remember rolling with Hurricane when he was maybe a four stripe white belt or just barely blue belt at CVBJJ with Dan and Anthony! Dude was already a beast! Great times!
You know what? Cub’s a good “speaker”. He should maybe lean into that type of career as he gets older. I’ve been a fan for so long. The pace and tone with which he speaks makes for a good speaker/narrator. ✌️😎
Damn. Glad to see Quinton Rampage Jackson having his urn podcast. I was always a big fan of his during his pride days. I still remember at one of my amateur fights back in 2004 at the Body Shop where Rampage was training with Antonio McGee, right when I stepped into the cage he yelled to me “eyyyy nigga… eyy nigga… throw a flying knee or some shit” 😂😂😂 I had ZERO stand up and won via arm bar 😆. He liked disappointed 😂😂
Respect Cub always liked him and his no-BS fighting, I believe everything he said he did whoop Kron's ass, and made him look like he did not belong there but the guy has class he still gave the guy his props
Jiujitsu is just Judo that wasn't dilluted with Olympic rules. That's why all the basic moves have Japanese names and origins. The Gracie's just stole it and peddled it as their own. Jujutsu or Jiujitsu aren't Brazilian words.
Cub is surprisingly a cool story teller. Fighters like him should be given opportunities to do the hype up trailers the ufc does of other athletes sometimes
The Gracie family is just like life. There’s a few diamonds. In the rush to try to get there. Rolls Renzo’s at the same time there’s many dream killers. In the old days you only got a black belt for being a great teacher a great mentor person, the rest are brown belts for life
The Cub vs Kron fight was one of the latest examples of the problem even elite BJJ guys have in MMA ie the lack of a strong takedowns. Has haunted BJJ in MMA for many years.
Cub's been around since WEC...that is insane. Fighters like Uriah Faber, Chad Mendes, Jose Aldo, Young Chael. Dude's been around for multiple generations of Fighters.
It was actually western catch wrestling taught by pro wrestlers to the Japanese from people that competed back when pro wrestling was still real. One of Sakuraba's instructor was Billy Robinson
Ever since I was a division II high School wrestler in 1992 I've always loved physical exertion rolling on a mat just engaging with other humans and seeing if we can test each other in a responsible admirable way. Most recently I've been trying to join local Jiu-Jitsu clubs and I feel as if it's a popularity contest more than just a Jim for guys to go sweat
I was rooting for kron in that fight, had I known this, I would’ve enjoyed that fight so much more! I remember cubs speech after the fight, he mentioned the beef but didn’t detailed! You taught him a lesson… stay in the mats! 🙏🏻
Cub was always introduced by the ring announcer as a jiujitsu fighter, yet I can't remember ever seeing him do jiujitsu unless he was taken down and had to resort to it. He always wanted to keep it on the feet.
Cub's right though, Kron is tough. He took a beating from Cub and Alex and still kept coming forward. I remember when Cub was hitting hit to the body, they looked lethal. He can't strike his way out of a wet paper bag, but he's made of oak!
Cub looks like he could be the newest addition to Linkin Park.
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
God damn it
@@Favelapat 😂😂🤷♂🤷♂
Dude, Cub reminds me of Chester every time I see him. I was gonna comment until I saw yours.
@@believein1 Kind of weird, isn't it? Lol.
Cubs a legend
Legend In the loosest term possible. I guess if you consider Larry Donald a legend so is cub
@@oldironsides4107one thing I know for sure is that your not a legend.
Kron a legend hahahaha
@@oldironsides4107in the MMA world cub is definitely a legend.
One of my favorite fighters to watch. Reminds me of Carlos Condit or Yves Edwards, the way he fights. Very elusive, unpredictable.
Kron was always a Diva.
Is
Giant turd
The Gracie’s are Divas
I said the same thing...
F**k Kron. He's such a diva, and I enjoyed seeing him SUCK in MMA.
He’s a wanker. Should stick to BJJ cos he’s trash at mma
he's been around long enough to be Bear Swanson by now
He will be Ron Swanson next.
Blasphemy @@Trs-ir8ey
@@Trs-ir8ey LMAO. You win.
🎉
@@Trs-ir8eystarts a podcast with a claymore on his desk
Growing up is realising the tale of the Gracie family is just that; a tale. They portrayed themselves as these pioneers of an indefensible martial art when most of bjj was just repackaged Kosen Judo they learnt from Maeda. They portrayed the “Gracie challenge” as honourable combat when most of it was just going around Brazil and jumping people in the streets. The UFC 1 bracket was handpicked by Rorion Gracie to give Royce the best chance of winning. The story of the Gracie family is one of the biggest white washes in the history of martial arts.
I dont know about the brackets. I would have avoided Shamrock at all costs rather than possibly face him in the 2nd round. Boxing was the most feared art and Rovce got that match in round 1. Kevin Rosier probably had the easiest bracket if he had made it all the way.
am calling BS on your ufc 1 claims.
Your whole post is cap...
@@JB-un2iv are you upset that you’re a victim of a successful marketing campaign by a family of frauds?
@@JB-un2iv are you upset that you’re a victim of a great marketing campaign run by a family of conmen?
Sad, some people want to train bjj to replace growing up in gangs, then find out the art they're attracted to has a 'gang culture'. Bullying of sorts. Good on Cub for following his bliss and rising above the political BS
No real gangsters do bjj they do mma. Bjj is for nerds and soy boys
Ooo most definitely it is that way sucks
Why would a "Gracie" gym train someone fighting a Gracie
facts bruh it sucks
@@Alanaboo912at this point, there are so many Gracie affiliates that it's really not reasonable to lock someone out for that. A lot of these affiliates don't even like each other
I'm not surprised, I was an instructor for a gracie academy in southern California, they're childish af. Nearly 50yrs old beefing like a teenager. I had to resign because of all the drama.
Without Gracie you be a karate Instructor hahah
@@Jeffro5564 There isn't a single thing wrong with that.
Real karate no, but 99% of karate these days is fake dog shit.
@@Jeffro5564as if they invented grappling
What was the drama man?
I never really knew Cub was a bjj guy and went through this BS with the Brazilian BJJ mafia. RESPECT MAN
Been hearing about this more and more. My son’s friend dad trains BJJ for a lil over a decade and he’s told me stories within, like their mini bullies. Mean to people. Just nasty work. He’s gotten away and trains at smaller gyms
@@PoyTroywell bjj is the most beta marital art. So it makes sense if you think about it
Hearing his story. I am happy that Cub got the chance to fight Kron and get that win from him.
What do you expect from the family that beat a man with a pipe outside his workplace for winning a match against one of them
That's downright disgusting
Who?
@@youragronk6208 they did it to Rufino Dos Santos and Joao Baldi
Hell Ralph sucker punched Flavio less than ten years ago and knocked out his teeth
You are the only person ive seen comment on a video who knows that
The Gracies found a way to be both the biggest divas and the biggest bullies.
Kron has always been a DISGRACIE.
Not just Kron, Royce Gracie has been busted for taking steroids, further disgracing their name.
Lol
y'all smell that??????
jealously is a nasty habit ladies😂
@@andrewnguyen664 Where's your proof, and resources to back-up your BS smack talking. You'd never say that to Kron, in person; never.
@Sam_Iamknot Your a dummy. Royce did ped's before his second Sakuraba fight.
Wow, I didnt know about the history.. makes the victory so much sweeter!
indeed. Kron took an absolute ass-beating in that fight.
For everybody wondering about the green and yellow belt. It's not that it's disrespectful it's just an extra lever for somebody to grab onto.
That whole gym sucks that they wouldn't let him train. That's why it's so important to find a well rounded gym that does it all and you can remain loyal to.
Cub is so cool dude!! Straight up OG and legend of the sport!!
Much respect!!
Nice to see Cub in the house, absolute Warrior so many good memories.
I rode on the Palm Springs tramway with cub one time back when he was still fighting. He was just as chill as he is in this interview. Good dude.
When Cub gets a beautiful destruction flow going it's something else!
"When Cub gets a beautiful destruction flow going it's something else!" >>>Brian Ortega: "hold my beer".......
He had a KO of the Year moment against Billy Q
Love the whole thing about him basically training by working as an affiliate. I spent a few years broke and working odd jobs to keep up to date with child support, and the gym I go to allowed me to train if I did odd jobs in the gym. It's a blessing that some BJJ profs are cool like that.
The Gracie's sound like a bunch of Bees
you mean dung beetles lol
Buncha 😿😿😿😿😿😿😿😿😿
Kron got his ass kicked in the ufc amd it was glorious! Cub rocks 🎉
Kron did pretty well for a guy with no boxing skills
@@234i9not really though
@@234i9what? Did you watch the fight?
That fight has always been special, but now knowing the history and backstory makes it even more. Thanks Cub
I have literally heard nothing good about the Gracie’s…
You wouldn't know about MMA if the Gracie family didn't exist.
They all have a level of pride that sometimes gets in the way.
But Renzo seems me the coolest one. At least nowadays.
I was at a strikeforce event one time while he was there walking around. I had my camera out and was videoing some fighters walking past. He saw me and thought I was taking a picture. So he paused for a second to allow me to take the picture. But after about five seconds I told him I was videotaping. Then he took a step towards me and gave me a fake liver punch all while having a giant grin on his face.
Still made me flinch a lot. Then we both had a little chuckle. I have video to prove it. Lol
Wrong. UFC 1 had a whole card of non-Gracie fighters.
"Yeah man Jiu Jitsu kills your ego"
Yet all the Gracie's have ginormous egos.
Thst means jack shit bro. MMA would be here without without them clowns @drainick
Kron was a punching bag the entire fight but he kept moving forward.
Most of his fights until he could snag something up. He did the Homer Simpson technique essentially. Ortega did the same, but at least be could strike at a pretty good level while he was piling up the CTE.
And it shows because look what he believes in lol. He’s a conspiracy doofus.
But yeah so funny to me when people are like “they have such a great chin”
Yes yes he sure can take brain damage and not improve their striking or striking defense for the next fight like no one I’ve ever seen 😂😂😂
lol I never realized that in MMA the ONLY person he beat who wasn’t a nobody or have a 50-50 record was alex caceres
Dude was pretty mediocre at MMA at medium level and walked around like a badass in the UFC, and went 1-2 only beating caceres 😂😂
I thought he had actually beat someone of note besides caceres. Which is a good win but.. not that great.
Dude really drank his own cool aid in bjj and thought it would magically transfer to mma even though his striking is 💩 lol
Kron had that Diaz toughness during the fight but didn't have the striking to go along with it.
He's no punk, that's for sure. Tough af.
Gracies got exposed as soon as fighters started learning the most basic grappling.
UFC should have hyped the shit out of the backstory. I just wanted to see what Kron could do against a legit striker with some takedown defense. That's a 47 Ronin style revenge plot.
They wouldn’t have most likely because gracies wouldn’t allowed it.
DAMN he beats a bunch of hi level blues/purples as a white belt and we never knew about this...that's the level of a pro UFC fighter.
Plenty of pro mma guys have subpar JJ skills. Cub is very much a natural. Reminds me of how bj Penn was the same way.
I remember that at the US Open, I won my weight division and they tried to pull the same shit with me. They had a gang of guys up from Brazil competing, whoever won the US open was to rep America at the World’s in Brazil that year. The only guy that ended up going from the American team was Egan Inoue. Forgot all about it, until I heard Cub’s story.
We love Cub out here in Palm Springs.
Cub beat the BRAKES off of Kron. Made him rethink his whole mma career
THE OG! CUB MAN A TRUE MATRIAL ARTIST. mad respect and thank you for soooo many years and amazing years. the man
I HAD 2 CHECK OUT THAT FIGHT AFTER HEARING THIS AND IT WAS A STRAIGHT SLUG FEST 💯 👊
A 1 sided slug fest
Im glad a lot less people treat Gracie's like deities now
Hell yeah cub is a big hometown legend for us in the Coachella valley
CUBS A BMF. met him 14 years ago. Laid back dude.
I could listen to cub tell mma stories all day
Cub is such a sick fighter! One of my favorites of all time.
Man I remember rolling with Hurricane when he was maybe a four stripe white belt or just barely blue belt at CVBJJ with Dan and Anthony! Dude was already a beast! Great times!
That’s TOTALLY something the Gracie’s would do.
You know what? Cub’s a good “speaker”. He should maybe lean into that type of career as he gets older. I’ve been a fan for so long. The pace and tone with which he speaks makes for a good speaker/narrator. ✌️😎
I'm not surprised read how Dave Camarillo book they more or less hemmed him up in an office when they thought he was trying to teach jujitsu and judo.
This is why Cub will FOREVER be a legend!!! Much luv&respect from Hawaii🤙🏽
Cubs one of my all time favorites.
So entertaining to watch.
Was always a fan of Cub since WEC days. One of the best.
New fan of cub Swanson here
What’s a fued?
OMG what a story I had to go back and watch that fight again after the background!!! Thank you
I used to do valet parking with Cub and his brother in Palm Springs.... crazy
Damn. Glad to see Quinton Rampage Jackson having his urn podcast. I was always a big fan of his during his pride days. I still remember at one of my amateur fights back in 2004 at the Body Shop where Rampage was training with Antonio McGee, right when I stepped into the cage he yelled to me “eyyyy nigga… eyy nigga… throw a flying knee or some shit” 😂😂😂 I had ZERO stand up and won via arm bar 😆. He liked disappointed 😂😂
Yeah Only reason Punk gracie took that beating so Well was because he was high on the marihuana.
Cub Swanson will go down a legend. Never even knew this story - doesn’t matter. 🐐
Nice shirt, Cub!! Bo knows!!
Cub is such a good and cool dude. Hurts to hear this
I never knew about this. Fascinating how sometimes we get given a chance to rewrite history and write some wrongs. ☯
Respect Cub always liked him and his no-BS fighting, I believe everything he said he did whoop Kron's ass, and made him look like he did not belong there but the guy has class he still gave the guy his props
Wow. Can’t wait to watch the whole thing! Cubs the man.
Absolute Legend, never let anybody down!!!
Cub Swanson… respect sir 💪
Cathedral city local legend, hurricane is a beast and still does it. Let's go 760! 👊
Jiujitsu is just Judo that wasn't dilluted with Olympic rules. That's why all the basic moves have Japanese names and origins. The Gracie's just stole it and peddled it as their own. Jujutsu or Jiujitsu aren't Brazilian words.
It's feud not fued
Who cares u rabbit
Lol
Haha
Swanson vs Choi is one of my favorite fights. Cub is as game as they come.
Cubs a good dude! And a great Fighter! And the Dude got heart! Hope he wins his next one.
How'd spellcheck miss Fued?
Wow crazy story Cub Godbless you and your family.
Cub is surprisingly a cool story teller. Fighters like him should be given opportunities to do the hype up trailers the ufc does of other athletes sometimes
Cub swanson was a banger back in the day enjoyed watching him. Part of the mma history for sure
The man the Legend Cub Swanson
The Gracie family is just like life. There’s a few diamonds. In the rush to try to get there. Rolls Renzo’s at the same time there’s many dream killers. In the old days you only got a black belt for being a great teacher a great mentor person, the rest are brown belts for life
That was a great fight. Happy for Cub, he looks so much more mild mannered with the glasses.
Cub be on interviews like “I wanna shout out my familia real quick, RRRRAAAAAIIIIIIDDDDEEEERRRRRSSSS”
Cub’s awesome and also the only non female fighter I’ve seen properly use Koshi Guruma (DDP fell on himself when he tried lol).
Shout out to Cub for training at my gym CVBJJ in Palm Desert…and hes gorgeous irl!
The Cub vs Kron fight was one of the latest examples of the problem even elite BJJ guys have in MMA ie the lack of a strong takedowns.
Has haunted BJJ in MMA for many years.
Cub's been around since WEC...that is insane. Fighters like Uriah Faber, Chad Mendes, Jose Aldo, Young Chael. Dude's been around for multiple generations of Fighters.
That was a great fight!!! Body blows Body Blows BODY BLOWS!!
Gracie’s been pulling dirty shit like that forever, UFC was made just to make Royce look good, Japanese jujitsu beat those dudes up in Pride fc
It was actually western catch wrestling taught by pro wrestlers to the Japanese from people that competed back when pro wrestling was still real. One of Sakuraba's instructor was Billy Robinson
MMA story of the week - or month. Awesome interview
Very interesting story
Cum complained and shined for 3 hours straight on the podcast
never thought this about the DISGRACIES!
Ever since I was a division II high School wrestler in 1992 I've always loved physical exertion rolling on a mat just engaging with other humans and seeing if we can test each other in a responsible admirable way. Most recently I've been trying to join local Jiu-Jitsu clubs and I feel as if it's a popularity contest more than just a Jim for guys to go sweat
Cub got that LA Mexican accent
I was rooting for kron in that fight, had I known this, I would’ve enjoyed that fight so much more! I remember cubs speech after the fight, he mentioned the beef but didn’t detailed! You taught him a lesson… stay in the mats! 🙏🏻
I remember Cub from the WEC back in the mid- 2000s.
Cub was always introduced by the ring announcer as a jiujitsu fighter, yet I can't remember ever seeing him do jiujitsu unless he was taken down and had to resort to it. He always wanted to keep it on the feet.
Respect Cub!
Sad that cub didn't get his flowers enough...dude fight style is entertaining af .. today mma fans will love it
cub vs choi is legendary
That’s a sick Bo Jackson shirt. I’d love to know where to buy one of those
Cub wasn't lying about Kron being in his world. Not everyone is going to try and pull guard, they're going to take advantage of striking.
There is no doubt the IBJJF/BJJ in general is Extremely bias towards Brazilian players.
Cub's right though, Kron is tough. He took a beating from Cub and Alex and still kept coming forward. I remember when Cub was hitting hit to the body, they looked lethal.
He can't strike his way out of a wet paper bag, but he's made of oak!
He’s a punchbag
@@micahbodha6129 What's funny is he walks with his arms out in a weird way, almost like those grappling dummies or something.
He was not the same after that fight and quit mma
He looked a lot different in his next fight against Jourdain, just gave him
When you’re tough for your own good its more of a curse than a blessing because you’re walking punching bag.
Make no mistake there is no Brazilian jujitsu all it is; is Floor Judo! Maeda thought them everything! Leg lock, Kimura, armbar all Japanese…
Cub seems like an awesome dude
i even confused when VICE made a video about Kron. Why?
He's the son of the legendary rickson Gracie. He's getting into MMA. makes for a good story.
Cub is the man.
bless you man
That entitlement BS from the Gracies is weak, that sht wouldnt fly in the wrestling world.
This is a great story.
Gracie’s are such drama queens. The most undeserving fight family.
Grew up watching Cub. He’s a dog and I’ll always be a fan.