The Hidden Bloodshed Of EVs, Cobalt Mining, & Modern Slavery (w/ Siddharth Kara)| CA #2

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  • @thisisironclad
    @thisisironclad  Рік тому +5

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    • @deemushroomguy
      @deemushroomguy Рік тому

      Coal mining is still happening... Before cobalt, coal mining was focused on for it's human rights violations... They're still happening (perhaps now, more than ever, as it's needed to power all the new E.V.s in China)... I feel like cobalt mining has taken the spotlight, but it's not the only issue with the "clean energy" world.

  • @dorranlarner8611
    @dorranlarner8611 Рік тому +17

    As someone whom spent time as a regulator overseeing the mining industry, specifically coal mining I knew the environmental issues tied to the cobalt mining existed. It makes "blood diamonds" look like childs-play.

  • @MiguelGonzalez-ei9og
    @MiguelGonzalez-ei9og Рік тому +18

    2 for 2 on a GREAT, informative programming. Even though Mr. Kara’s book dealt with Cobalt mining, he missed out another place on this planet where there’s A LOT of Cobalt AND lithium.....
    Afghanistan.

  • @Boston617
    @Boston617 Рік тому +18

    How does this channel only have 19k subscribers? Definitely one of the more professional editing jobs, and great interviews. Much love from South Boston.

    • @thisisironclad
      @thisisironclad  Рік тому +1

      Appreciate it Mike! Thanks For Watching 👍

    • @erickiyoshiphillips2323
      @erickiyoshiphillips2323 Рік тому

      They will grow man this isjust starting. His audience from his podcast will start following him and all of his viewers from other interviews will come in time

    • @ApoIIo95
      @ApoIIo95 Рік тому +1

      I subscribed just now. It is the first I am seeing this.

    • @cathywhitehead2509
      @cathywhitehead2509 Рік тому

      SPREAD THE WORD. I stumbled on you guys by chance and just reading the titles of your previous episodes gets me pumped to watch them. I have a 4 hours drive to Maine in a few days and can’t wait to have your episodes make it feel like a 10 minute trip to the corner shop!!!! I am now following and forwarded the intro video to my parents and my brothers.

    • @gunbacker9428
      @gunbacker9428 Рік тому

      @@erickiyoshiphillips2323 Andy will definitely be on Rogan again, and this channel will blow up if he plugs it on there.

  • @hunterjones9822
    @hunterjones9822 Рік тому +8

    If you want to drive a car that has a lower environmental impact then go buy a 20 year old used car. All the resources required to make it and deliver it in a finished form have already been expended and the only new pollutants are the ones it takes to operate it. Keep it tuned up and running efficiently and your good to go.

  • @nate_dodge
    @nate_dodge Рік тому +39

    Pretty wild that nobody knows this is even happening. Time to spread the word!

    • @keithgoddard4192
      @keithgoddard4192 Рік тому +8

      Throughout history, people have looked the other way when it makes their lives easier to do so.

    • @thealexsimulator2068
      @thealexsimulator2068 Рік тому +3

      People know, but the ideology supported by cobalt is stronger than people's human conviction.

    • @MrTooEarnestOnline
      @MrTooEarnestOnline Рік тому +2

      We have known this is happening

    • @Puddlesmolly
      @Puddlesmolly Рік тому

      People will not listen to the truth

    • @smitjs01
      @smitjs01 Рік тому +1

      Most of society chooses to live in delusion. They know this is going on but it’s not directly effecting them so they don’t care. Humanity is beyond sick brainwashed and evil af

  • @cant_see_me7924
    @cant_see_me7924 Рік тому +21

    The irony that we all watch this on a device that has mined cobalt in it.
    Where do we even go from here. A lot to think about.

    • @nemesisbreakz
      @nemesisbreakz Рік тому

      And the hardware that was used to produce this video. I don't know what the answer is, to be honest, but I'm only a few minutes in ,so hopefully, I will hear one.

    • @maureenobrien4807
      @maureenobrien4807 Рік тому

      The Hypocrisy. ☹️

  • @eriklarson4082
    @eriklarson4082 Рік тому +4

    Thank you for speaking on this. Everybody looks at me like I'm crazy when I try to tell them about cobalt and lithium mining.

    • @anywx550
      @anywx550 Рік тому +2

      Im on the same page bro

    • @markmiller8903
      @markmiller8903 Рік тому

      Me too. All my friends think I'm a nut. I used to bitch about the shipbreaking industry but the cobalt mining is worse.

  • @bigtinyhomeadventurebigtin5201

    Bicycle is the answer!
    Good for you and the environment
    Also super fun

  • @scottzuber6904
    @scottzuber6904 Рік тому +8

    Always the same the road of good intentions are paved with evil I could only imagine what these people go through but this is the new blood diamond

    • @Oldfarmlady
      @Oldfarmlady Рік тому

      Exactly what I was thinking. And know wondering what ever came of all of that?

  • @PinstripeJim
    @PinstripeJim Рік тому +4

    Great episode Andy. We have to make more and better educated decisions. This show needs a huge following and I expect it to grow immensely.

  • @kingofskate08
    @kingofskate08 Рік тому +3

    As a mineral dealer I understand this market a little more than most people, and the sad truth is, if you take away mining the population is often forced to take more dangerous, less paying jobs because theres no Economy. In Kivu and Rubaya especially its either mine gemstones and make 2-5 dollars a day or work at the local quarry turning sand stone into construction aggregate and make .50 cents a day if youre the most productive one. And you come to the fact that if you boycott or abandon the source then the only people who suffer are the poorest ones doing the labor. Its a clusterfuck. We have to instill ourselves into the Congo much like we did in Afghanistan, providing infrastucture, healthcare, protection from militias, improving the mindset of the population to see their own potential. We are not ready to solve this, we are only talking about it.

    • @kingofskate08
      @kingofskate08 Рік тому

      @@apotheoticoelacanth its the 3rd world, they dont care about regulating and putting red tape on mining because they are there trying to earn $2 a day to feed their families, and perhaps send their oldest child to school for an education that pales in comparison to 1st world standards. These poor people dont organize because they dont know how. And the people who own the mines are warlords, you have to remember one of the worlds longest lasting conflicts is happening in the Congo, ifs its not run by warlords you can bet theyre part of the leadership chain. It is not in their best financial interests to allow western influences anywhere near their resources. If you read the book you will understand just how difficult it is to enter one of these mines let alone make changes to the occupational safety regulations. Sadly minerals dont form within in the confides of a safe space. Please I beg you, go to Kivu and ask my friend Joseph what employment opportunities there are. If you can get there, you will find nothing, 1 store to supply basic toiletries to 2500 people, a UN humanitarian convoy that delivers water and food once every few days when the mud roads are driveable, the only electricity powers the one running light in the town center and after a hard rain it shorts out. These are desolate places my friend, they do not operate or function like the western world.

  • @antoniomilone5472
    @antoniomilone5472 Рік тому +2

    It is a short and to the point episode.
    Thank you, Andy.
    And I'll be sure to pick up the book.
    These companies need to do better, period.

  • @woaken
    @woaken 10 місяців тому

    Of course this is hardly being pushed. Thank you for bringing this to us 🙏🏽

  • @miguelcastillo-cedano8386
    @miguelcastillo-cedano8386 Рік тому +1

    This needs more coverage

  • @ӨмірбекСмағұл
    @ӨмірбекСмағұл Рік тому

    I’m really proud to see humanity still has heartbeat. Especially witnessing these badass warriors, such as you, Andy and Jack Carr. It’d be interesting to watch either of you interview more people w hearts & minds in right places.
    Subjectively, I’d suggest Preet Bharara.

  • @flightmama3191
    @flightmama3191 Рік тому

    ❤ Magnificent gratitude beautiful SOUL, i really loved your interview & Great questions🎉❤🎉❤🎉 I knew EV'S we're Not good, But I had NO idea about the Slave labor. I'm telling of these horrible atrocities and getting involved with my local community..... Thanks 4 sharing Ur TRUTHFULNESS ❣️❣️❣️ Fantastic work 💓😘💓

  • @littlespressurewashing
    @littlespressurewashing Рік тому +1

    Thanks for sharing this with everyone

  • @amymegginson-uz7jj
    @amymegginson-uz7jj 8 місяців тому

    Another Hero! Thank you for such important information!

  • @falcon5215
    @falcon5215 Рік тому +2

    Really good 1 Andy. Eye opening for sure.

  • @benmarshall3931
    @benmarshall3931 Рік тому

    Great stuff Andy. Haven't listened to Cleared Hot for a wee while, no reason other than been busy and not listening to many pods. Very good to see you diversifying. Will jump back on for some Cleared Hot also. 🤙

  • @davesclassicgaragetours
    @davesclassicgaragetours Рік тому +1

    Admittedly I had to skip through this video so I might have missed it but was the fact cobalt is used in the refining of petroleum even mentioned?

  • @ericg649
    @ericg649 Рік тому +1

    Our American privilege has shielded us from the reality of our conveniences.

  • @plunger110
    @plunger110 Рік тому +1

    Woohoo, been looking forward to this series!

  • @ratta_tat
    @ratta_tat Рік тому +2

    Lots to think about.

  • @jorrinimaway218
    @jorrinimaway218 Рік тому

    Wow, reminds me of Henry Ford during WWII. Building engines for the Axis and the Allies. Nothing has and probably will never change. This is so...I am truly at a loss for words.

  • @williamchase5698
    @williamchase5698 Рік тому

    Good info Mr. Stumpf...... keep at it!

  • @AlaskaJiuJitsu
    @AlaskaJiuJitsu Рік тому +7

    They know what they are doing, CEOs and chains of command need to be imprisoned with assets seized.

  • @Zosima45
    @Zosima45 Рік тому

    26:22 correct and exact in his explanation

  • @erickiyoshiphillips2323
    @erickiyoshiphillips2323 Рік тому +2

    Money brings the evil out of humans.

  • @jaynedouglas9556
    @jaynedouglas9556 Рік тому

    I asked my brother, who is high up in the chain at a large European/American automotive company about this. He gave me the exact stock answer Siddharth Kara said they would. I love my brother, but he chooses to be so far removed from reality that he hasn't a clue.

  • @AlaskaJiuJitsu
    @AlaskaJiuJitsu Рік тому

    Geopolitics needs to pause and fix this. Hard to believe that any fiscal policy makers not willing to redirect resources are good people. Not paying attention to these atrocities should shock people into voting appropriately. Squad leaders win wars.

    • @Oldfarmlady
      @Oldfarmlady Рік тому

      Politics will never fix this. Ever. Corporations will never fix this either. Doesn't matter if it's the tech industry, fashion , food, ect ect. The best vote you can ever cast is where you spend your money. I'm not trying to sound like I'm morally superior , hell I'm on a smart phone, staring at my solar panels & thinking about the new battery bank I just installed. Which by all definition makes me a huge hypocrite. That being said I can make better decisions for my homestead from here on out regarding my electrical purchases.

  • @gregp558
    @gregp558 Рік тому +1

    Great episode!

  • @SNLandCruisers
    @SNLandCruisers Рік тому +1

    I have bought two smart phones since 2010, I have bought two laptops since 2008. I drive a 1995 vehicle that gets fixed vs replaced. The choice is up to each person.

  • @henryhenry1974
    @henryhenry1974 Рік тому

    What Can I do to help get something done about this?
    it's a problem I of more and more often!

  • @henryhenry1974
    @henryhenry1974 Рік тому

    Yes man great topic

  • @davesclassicgaragetours
    @davesclassicgaragetours Рік тому

    Sponsor a DRC family $5-$10/day so they don’t have to go to the mine and quit updating phones and laptops so often, refuse the push to go EV and use more public transport so there’s less reliance on gas/petrol.

  • @jt.8144
    @jt.8144 Рік тому +4

    On that note, I'm buying a Subaru instead of a Tesla.

  • @vladimirmihnev9702
    @vladimirmihnev9702 Рік тому +1

    As horrible as all that is I think that if anyone stopped buying from those mines the poor people who make $1-2 a day and somehow managed to don't starve because of this, will now be making $0 a day. Which is a great way to get the good feeling that you stopped those people from working in abhorrent conditions and now they will stave but you won't see that. I don't think that is actually a good thing, to do. I don't know how to fix this, just saying that we have to be aware what our actions end up doing so to not taking a bad thing and make it worse for the people who are in fact suffering. One $ maybe almost nothing, but it's still much better than nothing at all!

  • @robertviering6785
    @robertviering6785 Рік тому +2

    The problem is that it's not clean energy!!!

  • @williamchase5698
    @williamchase5698 Рік тому

    The demand comes from the bottom..... consumer wants cheaper stuff.....

  • @270Remi
    @270Remi Рік тому +1

    I would pay double what I do for my electronics if it would help, I'd also probably buy less.

  • @johnmurphy1519
    @johnmurphy1519 Рік тому

    It's crazy how blind to it we all are

  • @bubbadiesel4961
    @bubbadiesel4961 Рік тому

    Good luck getting this through to the crazies, they don't listen.

  • @mechii254
    @mechii254 Рік тому

    its now or never action must be taken to change ways of mining this valuable mineral. the current artistic way is totaly unacceptable.horrible. unhuman. all the leadership of the beneficial companies must be summoned to give an account of it. otherwise all cobalt products must be prohibited in africa. this is insane.

  • @das250250
    @das250250 10 місяців тому

    These points are very important and the developed world doesn't want to hear it because they get uncomfortable. However, one point , you can't easily put a developed mining program inside a country where the political structure and laws simple aren't a modern developed country's structure. It appears there is too much corruption structures to do it. Maybe I am talking from inexperience . It appears that a country cannot make quantum jumps ,it needs tine to develop into democracy with lower corruption areas . This is a very difficult situation. Perhaps there can be a tax to be rolled out into that country to develop it as in free schools for those children .which serves the future of that country.

  • @henryhenry1974
    @henryhenry1974 Рік тому

    Make me weep.

  • @Oldfarmlady
    @Oldfarmlady Рік тому

    We're not going to tech or way out of this. Doesn't matter if it's our gadgets, clothes, jewelry. It all has methods and productions that are horrible and sketchy. It goes back to reduce & reuse. Folks say America in general doesn't have a culture, or atleast a universal culture. We do. Our culture is consumerism. Doesn't matter your color, religion, political views, or subcultures. Enmass we've been turned into mindless consumers. Top it off with most these days can't distinguish between a need and a want. If we go back 15-18 yrs ago to the grassroots green movement of healthy food, living a simple life. Not a cave man life ,but a life that can and does distinguish between need & want, we'd solve a lot of problems. Here & world wide. Ultimately it always boils down to us. The consumer.

  • @maureenobrien4807
    @maureenobrien4807 Рік тому +1

    WHY CAN'T THE CORPORATIONS JUST DO THE RIGHT THING - I'M SORRY I HAD TO GAG - I MEAN BUY THEM OUT - GIVE THEM SOME MONEY AND SCHOOLS AND AND HOMES AND W/E..

  • @erickiyoshiphillips2323
    @erickiyoshiphillips2323 Рік тому

    That image is like slavery it reminds me pictures of slaves in America but think of North Korea and the slaves they have their also. This is crazy even though I used electronics with cobalt I think something in the congo needs to happen. Stabilize it like a real job have protective equipment and hours of work and pay rates. This is sad but most of the things we use is from labor camps like these.

  • @texasdogg8498
    @texasdogg8498 Рік тому +2

    This is all good and well and well and good, but GIVE ME EVAN HAFER NOW!
    Edit: zoom in on his feet

  • @jamesgargoyle847
    @jamesgargoyle847 Рік тому +1

    I was thinking about buying electric lawn equipment but not now.

    • @shaunbrowne3963
      @shaunbrowne3963 Рік тому

      I have a wired electric lawn mower, and use an extension cord to power it. No social justice issues!

  • @maureenobrien4807
    @maureenobrien4807 Рік тому

    Where are the porta potties and .roach coaches...?

  • @jamessmith-hq5mr
    @jamessmith-hq5mr Рік тому

    While I would agree that the images depicted in those videos are horrible, the people participating in them are doing so at their own volition. They are not being forced to mine cobalt.

  • @Coalminer1611
    @Coalminer1611 Рік тому

    95 hours a week here

  • @Paul-gf9fc
    @Paul-gf9fc Рік тому +1

    Green energy is not really so green.

  • @isaacscafe6931
    @isaacscafe6931 Рік тому +1

    its fucking insane what pepole have become to each other

  • @shaynearthur9442
    @shaynearthur9442 Рік тому

    The situation in the DRC is really as bad as presented in Cobalt Red but, unfortunately some of the information he was provided by his sources is incorrect. Some of the major players are 100% aware of the situation on the ground and go to great lengths to manage the situation. Not all the players are utilising ASM. However, the issue is very much political and reaches into the highest level and does need to addressed

    • @sneakybow1
      @sneakybow1 Рік тому

      Cobalt gets blended and goes into the supply chain. There's zero percent chance that any of the major players can say they don't have any ASM in their supply chain. Not a chance.

  • @jamesnewsom5899
    @jamesnewsom5899 Рік тому

    Why is cobalt not just mined with machinery? Not that that is great

  • @markmiller8903
    @markmiller8903 Рік тому

    EV OWNERS NEED TO PAY REPARATIONS TO THE PEOPLE OF THE CONGO.

  • @matthewcamp9615
    @matthewcamp9615 Рік тому

    Ethical and CCP profits don’t mix

  • @maureenobrien4807
    @maureenobrien4807 Рік тому

    WHOEVER HAS THE MOST COBALT WINS...

  • @hulkangry5546
    @hulkangry5546 Рік тому

    Great work guys Keep spreading the word.

  • @jayb150
    @jayb150 Рік тому

    Sauron 5:17

  • @DarkCavalry1228
    @DarkCavalry1228 Рік тому

    When the Pyramids were being built, would you rather be Egyptian or Jewish? In America, 1875 would you rather be a US Cavalryman or a Native American? Would you have reversed that decision on 1876 at the Little Big Horn? In Germany 1942, would you rather be German or Jewish? The world is horror and chaos and chance. Blind luck and nepotism with 20/20 vision. The hard truth is that we didn't care enough about starving kids in Africa when we had rotary phones and green screen computers the size of a washing machine. And now we expect people to give up a device that they would commit suicide for? Globalism CREATES this. Everyone that flushes their fecal matter with potable water has facilitated this. This is the world we agreed to. 2023 in Texas I am glad I am an American, when the war comes to us...maybe I will regret it.

  • @Mr_Clean
    @Mr_Clean Рік тому

    I thought China held all the mining rights in the Congo 🤔

  • @DoWork316
    @DoWork316 Рік тому

    The new Blood Cobalt version of diamonds. Those who have latched onto this sacred cow will never admit any wrong doing or ignorance as with many topics. Furthermore, I believe they will double down on the lies and besmirch anyone who doubts or contradicts them publicly. That foundation has already been laid.
    As for me I am disgusted. We are seeing moral dilemmas, for some, in that they must choose whats best for all people and not their wallet.

  • @Pureblood712
    @Pureblood712 Рік тому +1

    how else would we have billionaires.

  • @patrickward7671
    @patrickward7671 Рік тому

    Looks like a bunch of people sitting on bags making sure no one else steals it.

  • @maureenobrien4807
    @maureenobrien4807 Рік тому

    The Congolese must be like you didn't want us and now you need stuff from our ground. It's á can cç sac c VC, and we all
    Need to come to grips.wirh this Third World mentality.

  • @MikeSwartz
    @MikeSwartz Рік тому

    Out of sight, out of mind

  • @t-roy1605
    @t-roy1605 Рік тому

    Siddharth Kara seems to be on something. Looks like he's going through withdrawals or something bad. I really hope he gets some help with whatever he's going through... something doesn't seem right.

  • @maureenobrien4807
    @maureenobrien4807 Рік тому

    It's primitive as fuck.
    We're so fucked up they could make us all see the movie and would we voluntarily drop off our phones after the movie - we know hardly anyone would part with their brain extension...

  • @mwhitelaw8569
    @mwhitelaw8569 Рік тому

    Interesting young man
    Vindicates my thoughts of electric vehicles

  • @andrewbrown6522
    @andrewbrown6522 8 місяців тому

    Im 100% against slavery but capitalism as we know it can not exist without a low cost base. So we need to figure out a better way.
    Ive made a point of trying to only buy north american made stuff. We have a healthy metal and petrochemical fabrication industry for supply.
    Ev are a great concept but the follow-through has been dismal imo. Manufacturers are too eager.

  • @theipc-twizzt2789
    @theipc-twizzt2789 Рік тому

    Artisanal mines make up 15% of the mines in Congo, not all of them..... This is not the norm (Physically not possible - there is around 40 mio tonnes of ore (cobalt concentration is 0,3% on average) mined in Congo)
    Also Cobalt is a mere byproduct, those mines are coppermines.
    There are estimates of 1000 children, not 10s of thousands children.

  • @itsmatt2105
    @itsmatt2105 Рік тому

    The people are digging voluntarily, no one is forcing them to dig. They did because it pays more than other work and it's WAY better than starving, which is very much an option in their area.

    • @andrew8658
      @andrew8658 28 днів тому

      Absolute brain dead take

  • @fredfrond6148
    @fredfrond6148 Рік тому

    For the record electric vehicle batteries made in China do not contain cobalt. Whatever his robust history in the topic the interviewee forgot to mention this fact. Go and check how much cobalt is in a Korean and Japanese electric vehicle battery. Chinese battery manufacturers use LFP batteries. Lithium, ferrous phosphate. Batteries with this chemistry are also much less prone to catching fire.
    I am thinking this dude just has some clever grift.
    For the record I agree that mining cobalt is an environmental and humanitarian disaster. So why are all westerners, including the guy being interviewed, support the narrative the EV batteries are the way to go?

  • @maureenobrien4807
    @maureenobrien4807 Рік тому

    Fiction - you mean LIES???

  • @straitarrow5784
    @straitarrow5784 Рік тому

    YOU ARE WRONG ! It is much cheaper and more effecient for a mining company to extract Cobalt by using bulldozers , excavators and huge trucks and employ 20 men to operate them . What you see in this video is thousands of men and boys being paid $4 per day which adds up to a bigger cost than using trucks and machinery. This is not cheap labor. The Congo government stipulates manual labor is used and they are paid $4 per day. $4 goes a long way in the Congo unlike America where $4 buys you nothing.

  • @maureenobrien4807
    @maureenobrien4807 Рік тому

    The pregnant women oh wow

  • @paperbags1
    @paperbags1 Рік тому +3

    Conservatives need to seriously consider the 2nd hand effects of unfettered American Capitalism.

    • @sneakybow1
      @sneakybow1 Рік тому

      Wtf does being conservative have to do with capitalism? Liberals are the ones pushing for EVs. Liberals exploit capitalism just the same as conservatives.

    • @pegmeininger3483
      @pegmeininger3483 Рік тому

      All people need to ask where, what and how are products being made. This is a human issue.