John Smith's Defection to the Reich | The Man in the High Castle [S4 E5]
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- In 1946, as the United States capitulates to the succeeding Nazi regime, US Army Captain John Smith must choose between two difficult paths: resist the new government or assimilate into America's new way of life.
The Man in the High Castle is an Amazon Prime original series that portrays a post-war, dystopian world where the Allies lost World War II. Watch season 4 here: www.amazon.com...
Is this the universe where Steiner was able to mobilize enough forces?
Can't hear you over the new boom boxes I installed behind the seat of my urbanmech
STEINER
ha ha, good thinking, then Downfall equivalent movie in that universe would be named "RISE UP".
@@theodoruslnh Fegelein !
Honestly loving the downfall references
I they could have made a season of stuff like this all over the world
@@generalaccount6531 this is amazon they have the budget for it. Jeff bezoz even have a personal space agency he can shill out a few bucks for costumes & sets.
I'd happily watch a spin off set in Europe during the conquest.
Would love to watch the nazis take Ireland, Britain, Russia etc. Such a stark change of events and would be shocking to watch. Have it set over a few seasons and end with the nazis leaving on a bomber to nuke DC.
The British and Irish would have fought to the bitter end. Though the Irish may have at first been okay with the nazis to watch England fall due to sour relations at the time but would soon fight back.
Britain, Ireland and Russia as well as the betrayal of Italy. Hitler betraying Mussolini and then invading iberia.
Switzerland too
Shane Hughes would be amazing since ireland was neutral during ww2
General Account other than making suprise character choices like theyve always been there
Would love to have seen what it was like in Britain
To those who don't know. In this timeline, United States never got out of the Great Depression and the presidents that came were weak.
Then there was war in Europe and the Pacific. United States was so weak that time, they couldn't afford to enter the European theater so UK fell eventually. When United States was being invaded they lost... hungry and desperate, all the Nazi had to do was put the electricity back on, keep the water running and give them groceries for the entire population to flip.
Hunger and desperation are powerful agents. Much more powerful than love for country and idealism given the right circumstances and in this case it was.
Almost like what could have happened January 6/2021....a complete change of government because the masses fear for the lose of what they perceive will be lost to them.....there was a quote I believe in the movie Midway or Tora Tora....a general officer said "if the Japanese invade the west coast they will penetrate all the way to the mid west states before they could be stopped"....and I always thought that was "hog wash"
You're right - except you left out the A-Bomb dropped on Washington D.C. in the alternate December of 1945. Even so, true capitulation wasn't declared until 1947, when American resistance hold-outs were finally wiped out and Axis occupation of the former USA was total.
@@jimmason1072 Jim Mason you forget what Yamamoto said survey the West Coast we will find every American with a gun behind every blade of grass
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They never got out of the depression because fdr was assassinated before he could become president in this timeline. Thats where the downfall of america started.
He did all this to protect his family and secure their future. But this ultimately led to the opposite
He lost Helen and Thomas to death
He lost Jennifer to the truth
He lost Amy to the system
And finally, he lost himself in the decisions he made
He also lost the alternate universe counterparts in the end.
As Heisenberg did in Breaking Bad.
Patrick Joseph Gamboa well put
Similar to all my sons
For death is a much better fate for their family then being a pawn of the Nazis.
Man it was tough seeing him not help out Daniel, and the other universe he said I always ahave you back and that we're brothers.
He didn’t know “how to stop”. He was truly a lost cause but technically still a HERO because of his decision. His final choice led to his second in command’s choice to cancel the order on San Francisco.
Helping for Daniel was pointless. He could be caught soon or later after when Smith will release him. John also knows it will be penalty for this which is means probably death for him and his family.
@Gregory Smith john smith said he did this for protect his family but just like Rudolph Wegener said. is that what you think you done? no john you got your half family killed.
@Gregory Smith That's hardly the only contradiction in the 4th season - remember that the same second in command practically begged Smith to give the order to attack just a couple of minutes before. He was introduced as a field commander fighting against the resistance (the one under Wyatt, not BCR) and was the one to suggest turning to the Reich. Then the minute Smith is confirmed dead, he gloriously tears of the cross off his neck and cancels the attack.
@Gregory Smith i pretty sure that John has nazi ideology into him
The most chilling scene to me is the officers in US Army uniform wearing the swastika armband.
Conquered men of a conquered nation.
The scary part, if the multiverse is real, then somewhere out there in time and space, this happened
@@daustin8888 Heck, some of our alternate selves could be at Hitler youths right now or officials of the Nazi party at the other universe, oblivious to our existence.
@@firemangan2731 I'd be pretty much dead
@@agentice7718 same here, name is a dead giveaway
@@firemangan2731 Most people are simply a product of their surroundings so thats certainly plausible
This was John Smith's original sin. This is the point where he is damned.
He did what he had to do for his family. Smith was never a fanatical Nazi.
That's what the SS guards in KZs and what East German soldiers said at the walls. "I had no choice. I just got orders"
Yeah they were sentenced for their crimes
Yeah, he could've easily just lifted the latch, and then pretend spit at his friend. He failed his friend and had a huge failure of imagination.
Sin or best glory? Glory i thinks!
@@ReuterL Oh yeah im sure you'd totally go inglorious bastards against a totalitarian regime.
I have always liked John Smith he was a man who would do anything to protect his family. He just got lost in the power of his job and lost sight of that.
S4, John in this world and in alternative world, both made it very clear. If he got the chance to taste power and brutality, he would slip into madness. John in this universe is extremely power hungry and is unable to abandon Nazi ideology because he loves it. The writers gave him full power, no more excuses from berlin. Yet John acknolwedges that he can not stop himself from commiting holocaust and war. John is a fanatic. Not loyal to nazi authorities, their strictess of the ideology but to nazi power and all its programs.
He was my favorite character. I was really hoping he would escape through the portal with his daughters and become a family man, but that wasn’t meant to be.
Anyone who let's an entire ethnicity be wiped out and not even blink an eye is a coward.
@@R4mbe how have you come to that conclusion
he did the right thing,
now give back calculus or I invade Belgium
The whole season was a giant roller coaster ride
Seeing the parallel version of Smith was fascinating, esp through both Juliana's and John's eyes.
Right up until the last min with the confusing crowd of people who we dont know who they are turn up. That bit was like finding out the photo on the rollercoaster costs $40
Honestly, it's hard to imagine to see American in WW2 US Army uniform have Nazi armband and perform Nazi salute.
The airlifted Nazi uniforms didn’t arrive until the following week. Plus seeing former US military so visibly switch sides would have been a powerful psychological blow. Minister of Truth Goebels got a bonus that year.
@@edbouhl3100 Many Germans who kept enrolled within the military after the unconditional surrender of the German Armed Forces and the Government kept their original Uniforms until they were dismissed. The British used German ships to clear out mines in the North Sea. Those men were enranked within the structure of the Royal Navy - but their command language as well as their uniforms remained German. Same goes for the German crew of USS Prinz Eugen, yes THAT Prinz Eugen (the cruiser accompanying Bismarck on her final journey). The US Navy commissioned the ship into its auxiliary branch and had her crew transfer her to Hawaii while training a rump crew of American sailors. Here too the Germans kept their service Uniforms but were officially enlisted within the US Navy, kept thei ranks they also had within the Kriegsmarine and received the same amount of pay as their American Comrades.
People can be... pragmatic in such chaotic times.
I thought the same exact thing.
It's downright sickening. My ancestors fought and bled in that uniform. Seeing it besmirched like that just turns my stomach.
@@Tronathon242 And that's the effect the showrunners intended to produce. The Man in the High Castle is designed to be a sickening caricature of our modern world. It's also not realistic by any means
“There was a time I thought I’d die for you, John”
Everyone HOI4 campaign in a nutshell
Nah, whenever I conquer the US there are only Imperial flags being risen on US Bases - and no need to these bullshit armbands.
@@Exodon2020 *laughs in Kaiserreich*
Been reading alot of comments on this scene. What alot of people seem to forget is that the America in this John's universe was vastly different then in ours. They never really got out of the depression, whole swaths of Americans were living in the dark, poor, and hungry. So yea, even I as a Canadian, seeing this scene hurt, He really did not have much of a choice, seeing his family starving and dying and fighting for an America that was already lost was kind of pointless.
At that point there was nothing to be defecting from. The US government was effectively disabled. If even officers were starving that is a total breakdown of chain of supply.
Continuation of the great depression, war rationing, loss of infrastructure. There'd be food supplies further into the USA, but getting it to the coastal regions targeted by invasion is a difficult process.
Man, can you imagine there's an alternate world out there with this level of stuff going on? It would be terrifying.
Shoumd we invade 51?
It'd be great. The cities look better and safer and cooler
@@rohiths9099 sign me up to high trust society
Technically it is possible. The events in this show happaned because the assasination attempt on FDR succeeded (while failing in our timeline). Thus H. Hoover becomes a president instead and the "New Deal" never passes. Because of it USA is in economic ruin and naver comes out of the Great Depression. Thus when the Japs attacked US navy falls apart because there was no industrial powerhouse to build new ships (what happaned in our timeline). USA doesnt have the capacity to help Europe even with Land Lease thus Europe falls.
Then its a matter of time because USA was a disarmed nation due to lack funds. The Japs control the Oceans. Then the Germans invade and all they have to do is bring food to the starving milions , restore power and watter services and they win.
So you are saying that having 50 genders and drag queens reading to young children is not terrifying? You are saying that certain races rioting non stop over nothing, stealing, looting in cities, millions of illegals coming over the border is not terrifying?
It's not in the video, but when Danny said "I remember when we would've died for each other" I felt it
This episode is maybe the best in the entire series, except for the finale
I totally agree....it was soooo good, then instantly sucked to high heaven.
@@pep590 yeah thats so true, the ending was total ass, but they had to make it so that the nazis get stopped or pc police would be banging down the door
The final scene and credits did feel somewhat sudden, but better to end with us wanting more than continue dragging on and let the quality decline.
@@WyattPriceTV I am going to see that in a few minutes :O
@@WyattPriceTV shitty ending :(
We need a season 5 involving a newly formed United States vs what’s left of the American Reich and the German empire.
its called WWIII. World ends glassed. not much of a season to watch.
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@Windex is love
Realisticaly their would not be. The Reich has been in charge for decades.
There would still be true believers who would fight and die for an American Reich.
There would be a sovereign Pacific states in the west and a weakened national socialist America in the east.
I doubt there would ever be "unification".
@@Infernal460 i think it's true there are true believers but in time will be a new america a unification for those people not accepted in the reich. The democracy will return to this new country.
Season 5 the german reich reinvades and wins again surley have the biggest army and bigger arsenal of weapons
@@Mccaughan95 Except the Americans have nukes this time. The Germans wouldn't want to risk global nuclear destruction.
This scene is terrifying, and i just want to thank every great man who died to defend our freedom and our liberty in that war. Thinking this could have really happened... No thank you will ever be enough for these brave man who saved us from this hell scenario.
@ There were necessary, but liberation implies they freed the nations they took from the Nazis.
While it was good that the Allies won, they weren't saints either. I'm not just talking about the Soviets; the British starving millions on India, the firebombings of Dresden and Tokyo, the nukes. War always leaves things worse than before.
And now theres Neo-Nazis
@@Prosercunus but Nazi Tyranny is worst for eastern Europe, Polish and Slavic Culture will seize to exist if the Nazis Won, meanwhile the USSR while evil has done only temporary damage
Nazi Germany was too incompetent to win the war, and there's no scenario where they possibly could have.. They were anti-intellectual barbarians who burned books and murdered all their best scientists.. The regime was doomed to fall from the beginning. There's no scenario where Nazi Germany could have ever won, let alone successfully invaded North America.
Imagine this : in a universe that axis won the war , the year is 2017. It it released a tv show showing the possibility of the Allies winning the war
The main character is a former Wehrmacht hauptmann That defected to Soviet Union. In the 1960s he is now the head of the stasi and wants to destroy movies of an alternative ww2
John Smith is the best character ever this scene got me emotional badly
I like the shot of the three soldiers staring up at the Nazi flag as the American flag is taken away. You can feel an air of hopelessness about them, that they're looking up and accepting their new reality with resigned dread.
This happened all over Europe during the real WW2. People from occupied nations coming to grips with the reality of German occupation. This was particularly painful for the military and police, as we can see here. They had sworn to defend their nation and people to the death, only to now surrender and have to serve the enemy against their own people.
I miss this show! The writing is superb!
Season 1-2 yes. The rest was dogshit
Burgundian Lullaby is a perfect theme for this show
A line from an old poem. "Only when the country is in chaos, people then realize who is truly loyal to his country."
The part where they lowered the American flag and put up the Nazi flag was one of the most wrenching parts of the entire show
I agree.
For me, it wasn't that, or even the destruction of Lady Liberty. For some reason the melting of the Liberty bell was the worst of it. Probably because that's where the Republic started.
I enjoyed it a world at peace is all that would result from this
@@chadwickmacarthur4760 Imagine a world without the banking class ☮️
Well America nowadays isn't looking white anymore 57% census 2021
This was the hardest scene to watch in the entire show
The look in the General's eye when he knew John is auto focusing on his armband look sad and full of regret. Its like he's trying to said "i just betrayed my Country and i feel asshamed, but i don't had any choice". Actually there are two choices, embrace the new world, or continue fighting. The later, by that time, seen will only give the people more harm, so a lot of US Army eventually chose the first choice.
Colonel*
The war was over, he had no country to betray, but that was no excuse for letting his friend go to the gas chambers
So hard to watch. He did that to save his family, but the man he would have been was still deep inside.
The twisted and dark irony is that, the same system he committed himself to save his family, ended up destroying his family.
Anyway this season belongs to Inspector Kido 👍
Agreed! His and Smith's arc was one of the most heartfelt arcs this season and perhaps the whole series itself.
But we can agree that Kido had a sligjtly better ending compared to Smith
@@patrickjosephgamboa187 I kinda wanted to see what became of Kido after he joined the Yakuza
@@Lord_Pilaf Me too! I think they planned for more with Yakuza Kido if they weren't cancelled. Makes you wonder what would he would have under the Yakuza since he was immediately given a high rank among them
In fact, a lot of character arcs loiked like they were planned for more if season 4 wasn't the last like Helen, Jennifer, Goetzmann(did I spell that right?), Belle, etc.
100%
This was incredibly hard to watch
Why? Its just a make believe film...
You do know movies are not real right?
Yea it was...
@@timok.2288 Just gut wrenching and disturbing how fast these people turned their backs on people suddenly deemed "inferior".
Parallel universes and alt history really makes you wonder. How many of your friends and allies would become enemies under the right circumstances.
@@Juanxlink ok guy
Juanx Link For some it’s just disturbing to see U.S soldiers join the nazis. I myself thought it was hard to watch.
Jesus christ the ending made me so sad you could tell he wanted to save his mate 😔😔
The month I guess the US Government surrendered was in March 1946. West Point the presumed last US capital because the US military declared martial law due to the absence of the Civilian government. The scene at the end was April 1946 since no cold weather existed and the Reich racial laws extended to the now conquered United States and Canada and now make Blacks officially no longer with any rights since many in the now Caged trucked included Blacks. Conclusion to the theory it would take a year for the name United States to officially ceased as a nation. Lastly the military was integrated in the world of the man of the high castle.
> make Blacks officially no longer with any rights
And this basically no sense, since historically Nazis used black troops without any issues. Especially to harass French with their longstanding issues with Algeria.
A ceasefire simply stops the fighting; when Patton shook hands with Goering, shortly after the atomic bombing of Washington DC. However, nothing is yet set in stone. Only after signing the surrender documents means that nation officially admits defeat and is at the mercy of the victor. Still recognised as a nation, but only briefly, before conditions are properly imposed. As soon as the stars and stripes is lowered, and the swastika is raised in it place, that is really when the 'United States' loses its identity. Almost immediately, swastika armbands are issued to those wishing to serve the Reich. Those who don't can still go into commerce or trade - as in the very first episode we see a US army veteran running a factory business. Or serve the Reich in other ways, such as law enforcement. But others who go off to form underground resistance cells are then declared outlaws, fugitives, criminals. However, from the moment of signing, whatever government remains is effectively passing over rule to the victor - and straight away the Reich is claiming the 'former' United States of America as Reich territory, later to be termed 'American Reich'. In Season Four, interestingly we see a coup take place, wiping out the Nazi military command inner circle (Berlin) in one fell swoop, and so by mutual arrangement between Reichsfuhrer John Smith and the ambitious Goertzmann effectively divides the Reich into two. The American Reich has full autonomy yet still allied to the Reich in other parts of the world. Meanwhile, even without European Nazi overlords, Smith is still eager to destroy the BCR (of the former Pacific States) thus uniting the American States into a single country once more - but still with fascists ideals and policies in place. However, after the demise of American Reichsfuhrer John Smith, at the hands of the resistance, a far more benevolent General Whitcroft assumes command and calls off the invasion. Placing his knight's cross upon the desk - and without any likely candidates to step in - signifies that the future of the American Reich, and that of the BCR, remains uncertain. Leaving it open to the imagination of the audience.
It's so hard to watch. Smith could've just quickly lifted the latch and made it seem like the truck door broke open, but he didn't.
Shame they never let Rommel make a cameo. All they ever said was he was 'in retirement'. I was rather surprised Goebbels wasn't a major character like Himmler was. Same goes for Bormann...I can't imagine him just fading into obscurity.
Well all of Bormann's power laid in Hitler and his trust not for that everyone hated him
Goebbels is unexplainable
There is a reason Bormann wasn't mentioned.
This scene makes my stomach clench up
This was such a lullaby to my left ear
So the General and John Smith falls to the dark side.
Ernest Wang the good side lmao
cloud tail LMAO EDGY AF XD LOLOLOL
@@cloudtail Let us know when you graduate from middle school
They joined the winners
@@cloudtail me so funny me so edgy af xd
Honestly its pretty dark and horrifying how they made men turn on each other in an organization like the U.S. Army where brotherhood and loyalty are core values.
There isn't really such a thing as loyalty to the nation or cameraderie in the military. Most servicemen are in it for a paycheck, a bed and three hot meals a day and will turn their backs on this country if they sense they are on the "losing side".
@@kazkikongokiller6447 I served. Many of the best and brightest soldiers still act like they’re in high school.
@@abraxaszee8953Same here. The brotherly love and camaraderie just wasn’t there when I was in, though I was in a signal platoon. Maybe it’s different for combat arms, but loyalties are surface deep in the military.
And people still say that John Smith should have redeemed himself in season 4. People that believed that John Smith would turn around after becoming worse in every season must be blind. Redemption needs regret. John Smith never cared for anyone except his family and never felt sorry. I can understand not liking how his character changed but there is nothing wrong with "his character or character arc".
Well he cared for freedom and for everyone in our time but that was when things got easy. In this world things isn't easy to care for eachother. Its humany mentality.
im quite late on that but if you really think about it his end is really good in a lot of way for my part the only part not ruined be the last season at the end complementing his dead he understand he did not really did anything for his family but for himself he loved the power in a lot of way similar to the story arc of Walter White in Breaking bad he did not became a worse person but only showed another version of himself
Smith may have dropped the latch and walked away, but his commander spotted him by the truck so Smith couldn't take any chances with witnesses
John smith is the protagonist of this series. I dont care about the rest since Jo dyed. Smith always tryed to protect his family. In the other world his son goes to war and probably also dyes. Smith learned the truth: No matter if you fight for freedome its not worth it if you loose your son for it. He served two completly diffrent values. His son always dyes for this values. John knows now: Not a single value is worth it to loose your family.
Dyed is something totally different you mean died :p
So much pain. So much pain for one person
As an American. This scene is my worst nightmare. I would rather die than live under the rule of a foreign power. And I’m am not the only one.
I'm sure a lot of people would have died fighting but I'd bet plenty would go along with the new regime because it was better than the death the SS had in mind
you are under a foreign power
if you have english DNA and your rulers aren't that's foreign
*Hava Nagila plays loudly during tax season*
Thats always easy to say.
It sounds good, noble, courageous. But very few today have to make these choices. Saying I'd rather die than ... is no big deal if you don't have to make good this vow.
America right now is not even European anymore
I don’t know why I can’t get over them calling it “Nazi American Reich”. “Großdeutsches Reich Von Amerika” translates better as “The Greater German Reich of America”. Besides that, “Nazi” was a derogatory shortening of “National Socialist”, like how Communists are called “commies”. There is no reason for the Reich to call itself or it’s members “Nazi” anything and it would make the resistance calling someone a Nazi more impactful.
No one cares dude
Should have made a presequal season set in this time period right after the war in 1946
Apparently fighting to the last man or making their occupation a living hell didnt mean anything
Nazism didn't only spread to Europe, it was quite popular in the States as well.
@stephenblair67 What a joke. How they are supposed to "take over the globe" after Soviet kicked them out from all Europe (because Soviet forces in Europe was much much stronger than Allied ones)? You see, you need airfields to drop Nukes into territory where it hurts. Not to mention that nukes production was very slow and, in case of Allies-Sovied conflict Soviet development of nukes will speed up even more (probably thanks to German facilities Soviet will re-capture from Allies). And let's not forget the possible international opinion backlash after such events and general low acceptance of war by USA population.
@@madzaisa They could lol.
@stephenblair67 Nukes can only do so much. It took the U.S years to get five bombs (one for backup, plus two for testing) in 1945, and they would need hundreds to take over the world. Not to mention that the Soviets got their bomb in 1949.
And I just told you that the U.S would need to produce many more nukes than they were capable of for that to be viable. At some point even with nukes you can't conquer the literal rest of the world in just two years.
And these aren't even hydrogen bombs.
The moment smith became heisenberg
SPOILERS
Season 5 was honestly a huge let down for me. First I really hope John wouldn't have to die mainly because he's hella lot more interesting of a "protagonist" than Julianna. Second I hate the fact that Kido surrendered himself to the Yakuza despite him being against them in previous seasons and his unquestionable loyalty to the empire but I do commend him for doing it to save his son.
Overall Its moments like these flashbacks which I really liked and John's reaction when he saw him again the alt world which was truly heart breaking probably more than when he saw Thomas.
Perspective Lmao this is edited and you still incorrectly had this as season 5
@@Luster... Lol
Yea season 5 was a let down for me to :(
It didn't show his friend revealing his Star of David asking "What about us John?"
He didn't defect, he surrendered; they lost the war.
Baby Thomas went quiet When the Guy entered
The trick about The world is not about doing good or bad, its about working with both and Chooseing The winning side.
Our personality is forged by the circumstances around us.
Existence shapes consciousness
I feel bad for Daniel Levine he viewed John as his brother but he was abandoned by his friend to die in a concentration camp .
Man what a stomach churner. Just seeing that armband was incredibly tough to watch.
The scene where he COULD have unlatched the truck tailgate, that's stayed with me...
From this moment, John Smith set himsemf in the road to power and self destruction. 😮
The man has a family. If the man went against the reich, possible his family would have been punished.
Hmm.... Wait. I heard that before. Where is it? North Korea?
And absolute certainty.
He could've went to the JPS, Neutral Zone or even Canada/Mexico.
@@johnd2946 not sure he would have had the chance. Looks like they arrested the ones that wouldn't switch sides
So much foreshadowing to make you think he would be redeemed but nope...
Same division as from "Hacksaw Ridge" (2016).
My left ear enjoyed this.
This guy looks good in any uniform
Every man should have had the strength to realize.... MAYBE.... JUST MAYBE they were right....
I didn't watch this show but I watched the clips and I saw comments of people who were disappointed with the ending. They were complaining they wanted to see an alternate ending to the parallel universe where the axis are victorious and how that goes. Are they stupid? Because the axis took over the America in this parallel universe but then they collapsed. The important Nazi and imperial officers were killed. The Axis powers cannot really take over America because they are destroyed. Those Nazi officers in the war room said it himself when planning to invade America, they cannot control America because only an American can do that. And a traitor of America isn't a true American such as John Smith who kills himself.
Daniel: John help me!! :(((
John Smith: *did I just hear Something???*
This scene broke my heart and sickened my stomach. I would never betray my friends not now not ever. Especially if I could save them and no one would ever have known
I have seen one friend throw another under the buss in an office, costing jobs and everything that goes along with that.
I can see this happening.
Judging by the looks of you you more then likely wouldn't of pass the nordic tests
I really wish we got more John Smith flashbacks, back to the early years of the Greater Nazi Reich. They kind of showed us some things in his nightmares, like from Cincinnati extermination camp, but I really wish we got to see it detail just how evil and depraved he became over time.
Evil is a plague, corrupting the hearts of men.
In this alternate universe, 90% of all sound is only heard through peoples left ear -_-
John Smith made the only choice available to him. most people would have done the same thing
Danny: John open de gate
John............
We were brothers
............... John..............
It's good to see that Steiner knew what he was doing... I guess the Reich had us right where they wanted us.
Anyone notice that john smith no longer had his rank insignia of captain on his shoulders..so did he start from the very bottom as private when he switched sides..i only noticed it when i watched it again.
I always knew what side Hamilton was on.
Are you refering to John smith’s actor’s role in the HBO series John Adams?
Now I want to see an alternate series where the soviets won the cold war
“Amerika” miniseries in the early 80’s.
Kinda talky and boring, without any of the sci-fi alternate worlds stuff. But yeah, soviets take over the US.
No one won the cold war
The communist won the war especially nowadays with China being almost number one America and the western world are in decline
The universe where no one could kill Fegelein
Seeing the armband on a US uniform is just eerie
Disturbing
I was really hoping by the time he became the leader of the US, he would've tried to make changes and undue all the damage that was done
when your playing tag but then your team mate betrays you: 1:20
Copied
The American dress uniform with the swastika armband hits a little different, ngl.
This season hit me so hard, what a tear jerker! I was yelling at the tv "you nazi fuck" all threw out the season... this show is amazing and what an amazing take on an alternate reality with a scifi twist.
This is how I can imagine things playing out across thousands of groups of American soldiers. It is difficult to imagine American soldiers in the event of losing a total war against the most brutal of all possible opponents so completely. Their country is dead, everything they believe in and fought for is dead. There were no good options - suicide, refuse to acknowledge or participate in the new regime, flee to the hinterlands and join the fledgling resistance, or pledge unconditional loyalty and join the new Nazi regime. The first three options range from likely to certain death, along with the persecution and likely death of your family. The last option, though of a pill to swallow as it is, was the only viable option for any lasting survival. You can certainly have some empathy for many like John making that choice. Not that it excuses his later actions. What started as a move to save himself and protect his family turned into a system he was fully indoctrinated into, carrying out the ugliest of his duties with zeal.
John Smith had always been a good man in the beginning
But as the world gone dark, he had to make a choice to protect his family
He went into a world where evil became law, and he had to follow the program to keep his family alive
Although a side of him always liked the power that comes with being a leader.
The hard choices he made, the way yningd are, the power of his position all corrupted him
But in his heart, he still sees the wrong, he still feels guilt, knowing his path is wrong
But he knew despite all he done, the pain and death he caused, there’s no going back
He’s lost, he’s trapped. He has no choice but to keep moving forward, even as his family fell apart
Thomas dying because of the evil system John help enforce
His wife and at least one daughter, seeing the truth of the world and sees it’s wrong
He ironically was losing the very reason what he sold his soul for
But after so long in the dark, he can’t see any other way but go forward
Until in his grief he thinks conquering other realities, stealing versions of his family. Will get his family back
Like Joe Blake, John Smith was too broken to do anything else, and had to be stopped
But his heart never changed at the core, which makes his life all the more tragic
Its not called defecting once you lose
Exactly. you can't defect from something that no longer exists
It must be awful to exist in this timeline, going through the Great Depression and then a massive war changes everything and eliminates your nation from existence
Great scene!
This is the universe where adolfs father doesn't punish him severely
I wish this gave a month, since we know the nuke hits Washington Dec 11 1945 and this just says 1946, how long after DC getting hit did we fight on before we gave up?
Bro season 4 was fucking amazing!
As a American, I would rather die, than see another countries Flag raised over mine!
I must have missed this whole season because I don't remember when he defecated.
That was in the third season... he came out of the restroom with a newspaper under his arm, paused and stretched, scratched his belly and then joined his family for dinner.
This scene was a flashback from season 5 - no defecation and not really a defection either: his country was beaten, he was a soldier and was brought in to the new army.
History teaches us that defecation is the wisest response to defeat, newspaper under the arm or no newspaper. It's poop all the way for the vanquished, as the crow flies.
This is probably the only good part of the last season. The rest was fraught with problems ranging from tone to general script writing, it was like the new director and writers were trying to change the show in the last season because of their own agenda but I digress. It would have been nice if this wasn't the only scene post war. It would have been interesting to see what America was like in the early days of the Reich, maybe seeing a newly founded Nazi American Army vs the Loyalists US Army would have been interesting, to sell John Smith not only as a hard character, but also show him as a sound leader and tactician as was said through the show but we just never saw it. I wish the last season was better but this is a highlight for me.
コントローラーを分解してベースを取り付ける必要があります コントローラーを毎回遣り直すする代わりに お気に入り Yamamoto once said to invade America you will find every American with a gun behind every blade of grass
Seasons 3 and 4 were messy, but this plot line was the best part. Vichy America, people coming to terms with their occupation, people never thought it could happen to France, but if the USA was nuked?
To me, the Colonel at first looks like Clint Eastwood.
Agreed! Then I realized he was way too famous and expensive for this project!
@@abraxaszee8953 You are so right my friend.
I've always wondered -- The guy at the door? Is that supposed to be Gen. Eisenhower?
No, Eisenhower in Man in the High castle led a resistance movement after the war from what I’ve heared. The general at the door however is not Eisenhower.
It's Mike Bolden. A minor character.
It feels like watching wolfenstein:New order prequel.
Am I to assume STEINER had enough force?
What i feel like right now
He was auch captain in the US Army in 1946, in 1962 he was already a General (Obergruppenführer) in the SS.
How come that he rised up so fast?
Dealing with the partisan movements gives you a sweet General spot in the army that's for sure!
Fierce loyalty and ruthlessness and timing will get a person ahead in just about any organization.