Thank you for sharing this, we didn't know this was possible either until getting recommended your video yesterday. We've referenced this video in our Cinema Camera 6K review we just published so hopefully we help get the word out a bit more too!! Thank you again for sharing!! Jake
I’ve seen this video first then your video on the 6KFF and it was very awesome of you to mention this video and reference this channel! Good stuff, just like this video and I’m so glad I found it.
How the freaking crap has this not been massively public. These cameras suck at this and the fact that DR can fix it this easy is INSANE!!!! thanks dude. big time.
Are you telling me the manufacturers of the Black Magic Pocket Cinema Camera, the Black Magic Pocket Cinema Camera 4k, the Black Magic Design Production Camera 4k, the Black Magic Design Pocket Cinema Camera 6k Pro, The Black Magic Design Pocket Cinema Camera 6K, The Black Magic Design Pocket Cinema Camera 6K G2, and the Black Magic Design Cinema Camera 6K, Are bad at marketing????@@HikingWithCooper
Maybe because it only works for jello caused by the camera accelerating and the rest of the world staying still. If anything else moves, like cars or animals or kids or even a whole scenery shot from a moving vehicle, that will still be all distorted. But sure, this feature is very nice for correcting static scenes shot by drunk cameramen on galloping horses.
I actually didn’t know this either. I know the gyro stabilization but never knew it would actually fix the jello effect. Very impressive and thank you.
Great, that this knowledge gets out there! 😊 One thing to note (which made me screaming at my computer in the beginning until I learned): all electronic stabilization on the lens MUST be turned OFF (e.g. Canon‘s IS or Panasonic‘s OIS). Otherwise the camera won’t record proper gyro metadata and you won’t be able to use the gyro stabilization method inside of Resolve… Edit: Gyro stabilization only works with BRAW, not ProRes.
For anyone reading this who has a Sony camera with gyro stabilization (and can stabilize using the Gyroflow OFX plugin right in Resolve) this also means you need to have IBIS turned off in addition to any optical lens based stabilization. The gyro data needs to captures *every* movement, and if IBIS or Lens IS is doing a bit of stabilization, the gyro can't capture that and instead those "corrections" will instead turn into shakes in the footage.
Dude! Thank you. You win the Internet, this is the most insightful and important information I’ve gleaned from UA-cam all year. I love Blackmagic and the entire ecosystem.
THANK YOU for discovering this! It really works. I use your method in addition to stabilizing with gyro info in the edit page and now I can do fast panning without worrying about the jello effect. I like my BMPCC even more now 🙂 UA-cam needs more of you and not the influencers whose main goal is to make you buy stuff.
You... just... what... how did I not know about this!? I follow BM stuff like a rabid hound. I even went to a Blackmagic event where they were showcasing the BMCC6K and I talked at length with the BM reps about the new camera and how everything about it is SO GOOD, but the rolling shutter performance kills it for me. They didn't mention this feature at all despite us going through the different technical details multiple times. I'm 97% sure I will still stick with my P4K for the foreseeable future due to smaller file sizes vs. C6K, but this video of yours just opened my eyes to the absolute gigabrain side of Blackmagic's thinking. Keep the hardware cheap to manufacture and build reliable support tools to fix the small grievances that remain. All I can say is, thank you!
@@DiodeFilms Blackmagic is an engineer driven company. They add nice features but stay silent on them. Most of the marketing is specs first, not feelings driven and even vital features get overlooked.
Great observation. Their marketing and customer service is just about the worst in the business. They don't even have a customer-facing knowledge base NOR do they have a bug log. They will not communicate with their users. Just look at the 18.6 audio shift bug that was destroying projects or the 18.0 timeline deletion but that was destroying companies. They never said a word. @@KaarloMedia
WTAF Blackmagic? Why would this not be a feature? Rolling shutter is one of the biggest complaints I've both made and heard about the pockets. This should be a check box on the Inspector. A "Global Shutter" checkbox would help their sales. I don't get how they can be so good at things like creating a 12k camera and a Hollywood-changing software....yet at the same time do things like ignore their customers and not tell us that we can make their cameras much better than they are this simply. Mind = blown. Thank you so much for pointing this out. I MAY not sell my camera now.
Well it's not really global shutter. This trick only corrects artifacts as a result of the camera movement itself, as I mention in the video. Flickering lights will still zebra, and if you point it out of a car window you'll still get slanted lampposts etc.
I discovered this recently and thought it only came out with the full frame (thanks for prompting me to be more diligent with updates).... It changes so much.... this is major!
I’m happy that you literally started this channel to make the BM shooter community aware of this. I did not know about this until watching this video. I too am considering switching camera systems. Watching this unchecks a box to switch for me.
I've been meaning to start one for ages but never got round to it. I found out about this and was so annoyed that such a cool and simple feature was so difficult to learn about it pushed me to make a video about it.
Now that's someone that finally has something really interesting and out of the same old same old critique. Thanks a lot for sharing that, it really is useful!
I have heard of this benefit in using the Gyro Data maybe once before, but for the most part it’s a feature which has gotten lost. I’m glad to see someone take the time to so clearly demonstrate how this works. Thank you. At the same time, it’s interesting to see how much of the frame gets lost in the fixing-particularly when the camera moves in the vertical axis. Those black bars are huge. Despite the magic, in many cases where you only need to cover a handful of quick camera moves (particularly in long takes), perhaps an adjustment clip over the offending frames with a bit of directional blur feathered in would cover the problem almost as well, and not require losing so much of the frame area when the camera is still. Stabilization will crop to cover the worst offending maneuver in any given clip which could really throw off your framing for most of the take.
It's more small little wobbly jitters in handheld footage that I'm bothered by, which should require a much less significant crop. If I were doing something like a whip-pan, I wouldn't be too bothered by the rolling shutter because everything's blurred. Besides, if you were shooting action with something like the new full frame blackmagic 6k, my solution to reduce rolling shutter would have been to crop into s35 anyway, but instead I can just shoot the full sensor with the expectation of cropping significantly later. It does suck with a small sensor camera like the pocket 4k though...
This is massive man, big shoutout. CVP and Tobin both shouted you out for finding the best reason to consider blackmagic cameras over the competition for the price. I took another look into the documentation, manuals and it's really not documented well or at all. I knew that some stabilzation tools correct for rolling shutter artifacts, even the warp stabilizer has for years, but this was not well known. It might be because there just aren't enough shooters out there shooting on blackmagic cameras and editing in resolve and on youtube that have tested this tool post resolve 18, but damn great to know.
I totally agree that some reviewers don’t really give you the solutions to their complaints even though there is a possible solution. Great tip by the way! 👍🏼
I wasn't really criticising them for it, I didn't know about it until recently either. Even videos covering gyro stabilisation when it came out didn't seem to notice the ability to correct rolling shutter specifically. I guess its more blackmagic didn't realise that rolling shutter was a big deal... or maybe its only a big deal for me haha.
Thanks a lot. That is ridiculous. BTW. The 12k has a readout @8k at 8.7 ms, this feels like similar to a global shutter effect, but it has no gyro stabilization, so that is why the Pockets are better to handle this in post.
Just wow! Thanks for this. It always baffles me why Blackmagic likes to keep some of their camera features a secret. BTW, how are you able to see out of them dirty glasses? Looks like you've got a Pro-Mist filter on them 🤓
Holy!! I own a 6k Pro and had in mind to sell it because I only film handheld and the rolling shutter is pretty annoying. I film with a heavy rig, therefore I don’t use the software stabalizer a lot. But this is breaking news and puts the cards new on the table. I mean how do we not know about this?? Thank you mate!
Wow man 🤯 Can't believe it either! But looks like you're the 1st UA-camr to "discover" this, even CVP have just quoted you on their review of the full frame BMCC6K! The strangest thing to me is that Blackmagic haven't made a bigger deal about this. Thanks for sharing
For non bm cameras you can also do this with gyro flow software. Even if the camera does not have Gyro recording you can use an external amount of GoPro to record gyro data and use that to stabilize.
Good to know but that's too many steps. Very impractical. The fact that it can work doesn't mean it's practical to do on actual projects. Also, that's one extra gear to buy. Sorry am quite harsh tho.
@@stanleymakafui For sure! That being said, it's still less work while shooting, cheaper and much lighter than a gimbal. You will also learn what shots you can easily stabilize using resolves normal stabilizer and what shots you need gyro for. I used this method on my vacation to Germany this year and it worked great. I only needed the gyro data for a handful of shots anyway as resolves built in worked great for most of them!
Wow, thank you! I was just wondering myself a couple of days ago "Why are there so many subreddits talking about this, but no actual YT video about it?" Haha, thank you so much! I just subbed and look forward to more gems from ya!
Man! That's a game changer! Just finished a project and it something I was really frustrated about. Tried to find a fix, didn't found anything! But here you are! Thx so much!
The one thing I missed about Premiere after switching to Resolve was the built in "rolling shutter repair" effect that they've had in there for years. It didn't even crop. This gyro thing is pretty neat though.
You are a saint and a scholar, sir. Please don’t hesitate to make more videos about any other niche earth-shattering information you come across, chances are someone will find it useful.
Now this is interesting. I did have some thoughts when they did announce the gyro stabilize feature, that the camera movement data should be able to be used for fairly accurate rolling shutter compensation. I am fairly certain I mentioned it in the Blackmagic Forums as well... Though, I didn't think of looking in the color tab for options that would let me test it without the overall stabilizing. That is a great find! And yes. There are cases where it wouldn't help. For instance, I am fairly certain it only records one motion vector per frame so it can only deal with straight squash and skews. If you hard mount the camera to a vibrating surface, for example. Where the camera moves erratically in tiny amounts multiple times per frame, the worst form of the jello effect, that would need multiple datapoints per frame. Also, it only deals with motion that the camera does. If the talent turns head quickly for example. The eyes will be recorded as turning before the rest of the mouth. The camera gyro has no clue about that. And if you pan with a subject moving quickly across a background, the gyro stabilizing can probably correct the overall skew, but while you get a corrected background, you instead get a skewed subject. So I do think they should break out this feature into its own plugin and call it something like "Gyro enhanced Rolling Shutter Reduction". It's not a full fix for rolling shutter. But as you say. It takes care of a lot of the cases where you actually notice it (vibrating hardmounts notwithstanding)
You just turned my brain to jelly. To your question about whether we knew this... I have to say that having owned a BMPCC 4k for 3 years, I had no idea about this and I feel the same as you, why didn't I know?!
How in the world have i never heard of this....that is ridiculous! Set it to 0?? Who'd've thought of that! THANK YOU! I AM CONSTANTLY THINKING OF THE SAME THING!
Fascinating stuff. Makes me think the camera industry is poised for a big upset where software abruptly becomes more important than hardware, akin to the camera phone race between Google and Apple
It's really impressive seeing the difference. I'm curious if it might have different situations where it struggles. Another side note, if you can please increase your audio levels, I was listening to this in my car at basically full volume and it was hard to hear.
Well I sure am glad YOU are talking about this! Now I know about it ! And you're right to be shocked it's a hidden secret, I'm shocked !! (& you deserve my Subscription for this info!)
Yeah, this makes a big difference to me. I've been shooting n a P4K for 3+ years. Still love it but was hoping the next BMD offering would have fast rolling shutter (like the URSA 12k etc) and was a little disappointed. I've decided I'm getting the C6KFF anyway as the image looks so nice! I'm going to test this now. Like you say, it's a small number of shots that are affected by rolling shutter, but in those limted cases, this looks like a great solution...
I guess it depends on timing. I’m pretty sure this was enabled when the 6K G2 came out, so pretty much any video prior to a year ago wouldn’t even know of this feature. Reviews for the 6K full frame should know this though
S5ii has terrible rolling shutter and even worse moire. Also s5ii does not record gyro data :(. This is a HUGE find. Thank you so much for posting this
That's what prompted me to look into it. My P4k rolling shutter bothers me and its not nearly as bad as the s5ii. I expect the new blackmagic 6k will be about the same as the s5, so for me, being able to correct it is a huge advantage.
I have 3 of the older BM Production Camera 4k cameras. One of the reason I use these so much is that they have global shutter - no rolling shutter. I always wondered why they never included this in their newer cameras. I have the BMPCC6K pro too. Definitely gonna be looking into this!
Thanks for the video! I didn't know this either and have been using Blackmagic since 2020. Definitely great to know whilst considering whether it's worth going for the FF!
To compose precisely, probably smart to put some sort of frame guides on set to preemptively give you the small crop in required for this to work in post.
I just got to know about it as you made this video!! Thanks alot. I was having the same issue on chosing which camera due to this rolling shutter issue of BMD cameras
That is super cool. However, if your camera is on a tripod (or not moving much) and a vehicles pass, they will get the rolling shutter and won't get corrected. So it's a partly fix that comes with an intense crop. Still, good to know!
Sent here by @initialfocus Great video! I’ve subscribed :) This is great news! I’ve wanted a Blackmagic camera and this was one of the things holding me back, should pair nicely with an X-H2s I think. I just wouldn’t know which to use as the A Cam lol.
Unfortunately I don’t have this new feature on my camera since I have the original Ursa Mini 4.6K. The sensor readout speed on the 4.6K is 15.17 milliseconds so it’s a bit faster then the pockets and I never really had an issue with the rolling shutter effect on my images which is apparent if you really give it a good jostle. It just irks me that they took the global shutter out of the mini 4.6K like they had in the original mini 4K. I guess having 15+ stops of dynamic range was a better trade off to some. And also I can still brag about having Cinema DNG RAW. I’d take that over B RAW any day of the week. It isn’t RAW if there’s ANY post processing in camera but that’s off topic and up for debate if anyone wants to argue with me on that.
I thought gyroflow is what they're using for the built in stabilizer? I'll look into the OFX. I did wonder about situations where you might want to reduce how much correction there is for rolling shutter, like maybe if the crop is too much for you? 99% of the time I can't see me needing more specific control than this though.
I'm totally agreeing with you on this. Just found out about gyroflow being avaible as a plug in for Davinci for free, like 10 days ago. It did wonders with Sony FX6 natively without Catalys Browse also ! Pretty sure it can be tweaked for RS with the Pocket ;)@@DiodeFilms
I think most people don’t care about this feature because when you need to shoot something with that much movement/shake, you just use the appropriate tool for the job. When you don’t you can use your Blackmagic. That’s how i see it anyway. Not locked to a brand or model because i own it
The problem isn't talked about because the UA-camrs don't actually shoot.
Jaja
This^^^
This is so damn true!!!
Shots fired. lol
Fact!
Thank you for sharing this, we didn't know this was possible either until getting recommended your video yesterday. We've referenced this video in our Cinema Camera 6K review we just published so hopefully we help get the word out a bit more too!! Thank you again for sharing!! Jake
I’ve seen this video first then your video on the 6KFF and it was very awesome of you to mention this video and reference this channel! Good stuff, just like this video and I’m so glad I found it.
How the freaking crap has this not been massively public. These cameras suck at this and the fact that DR can fix it this easy is INSANE!!!!
thanks dude. big time.
Holy crap dude, this is major. How did BM not advertise this? This is such a cool discovery, thanks for putting the word out there man!
Right? They could put this as a top feature on their next release. Their marketing and CS teams are sooooo bad.
Maybe they don't know? It's sometimes happend with magic. I tried it on BMPCC4K, it looks more apparent on 60fps than 24fps logicaly. Cudos to author.
Are you telling me the manufacturers of the Black Magic Pocket Cinema Camera, the Black Magic Pocket Cinema Camera 4k, the Black Magic Design Production Camera 4k, the Black Magic Design Pocket Cinema Camera 6k Pro, The Black Magic Design Pocket Cinema Camera 6K, The Black Magic Design Pocket Cinema Camera 6K G2, and the Black Magic Design Cinema Camera 6K,
Are bad at marketing????@@HikingWithCooper
Maybe because it only works for jello caused by the camera accelerating and the rest of the world staying still. If anything else moves, like cars or animals or kids or even a whole scenery shot from a moving vehicle, that will still be all distorted.
But sure, this feature is very nice for correcting static scenes shot by drunk cameramen on galloping horses.
@@marcus3d OR just panning. I have rolling shutter problems all the time, ESPECIALLY when shooting anamorphic which exaggerates the effect.
I actually didn’t know this either. I know the gyro stabilization but never knew it would actually fix the jello effect. Very impressive and thank you.
This is incredible and groundbreaking
Great, that this knowledge gets out there! 😊
One thing to note (which made me screaming at my computer in the beginning until I learned): all electronic stabilization on the lens MUST be turned OFF (e.g. Canon‘s IS or Panasonic‘s OIS). Otherwise the camera won’t record proper gyro metadata and you won’t be able to use the gyro stabilization method inside of Resolve…
Edit: Gyro stabilization only works with BRAW, not ProRes.
For anyone reading this who has a Sony camera with gyro stabilization (and can stabilize using the Gyroflow OFX plugin right in Resolve) this also means you need to have IBIS turned off in addition to any optical lens based stabilization. The gyro data needs to captures *every* movement, and if IBIS or Lens IS is doing a bit of stabilization, the gyro can't capture that and instead those "corrections" will instead turn into shakes in the footage.
@@TaylorPassofaro True, great addition! And with a GoPro mounted on a rig plus Gyroflow you can basically post-stabilize ANY camera ;-)
Dude! Thank you. You win the Internet, this is the most insightful and important information I’ve gleaned from UA-cam all year. I love Blackmagic and the entire ecosystem.
THANK YOU for discovering this! It really works. I use your method in addition to stabilizing with gyro info in the edit page and now I can do fast panning without worrying about the jello effect. I like my BMPCC even more now 🙂
UA-cam needs more of you and not the influencers whose main goal is to make you buy stuff.
How wasn't this promoted by BMD??? This is ridiculous... Thanks for posting this!!
Owner of a BMPCC4K here (since 2019).
I had *ZERO* Clue. Thanks for this
You... just... what... how did I not know about this!? I follow BM stuff like a rabid hound. I even went to a Blackmagic event where they were showcasing the BMCC6K and I talked at length with the BM reps about the new camera and how everything about it is SO GOOD, but the rolling shutter performance kills it for me. They didn't mention this feature at all despite us going through the different technical details multiple times.
I'm 97% sure I will still stick with my P4K for the foreseeable future due to smaller file sizes vs. C6K, but this video of yours just opened my eyes to the absolute gigabrain side of Blackmagic's thinking. Keep the hardware cheap to manufacture and build reliable support tools to fix the small grievances that remain.
All I can say is, thank you!
I know, right? It's such a useful feature they really should have done more to inform people about it.
@@DiodeFilms Blackmagic is an engineer driven company. They add nice features but stay silent on them. Most of the marketing is specs first, not feelings driven and even vital features get overlooked.
Great observation. Their marketing and customer service is just about the worst in the business. They don't even have a customer-facing knowledge base NOR do they have a bug log. They will not communicate with their users. Just look at the 18.6 audio shift bug that was destroying projects or the 18.0 timeline deletion but that was destroying companies. They never said a word. @@KaarloMedia
WTAF Blackmagic? Why would this not be a feature? Rolling shutter is one of the biggest complaints I've both made and heard about the pockets. This should be a check box on the Inspector. A "Global Shutter" checkbox would help their sales. I don't get how they can be so good at things like creating a 12k camera and a Hollywood-changing software....yet at the same time do things like ignore their customers and not tell us that we can make their cameras much better than they are this simply. Mind = blown. Thank you so much for pointing this out. I MAY not sell my camera now.
Well it's not really global shutter. This trick only corrects artifacts as a result of the camera movement itself, as I mention in the video. Flickering lights will still zebra, and if you point it out of a car window you'll still get slanted lampposts etc.
I discovered this recently and thought it only came out with the full frame (thanks for prompting me to be more diligent with updates).... It changes so much.... this is major!
I’m happy that you literally started this channel to make the BM shooter community aware of this. I did not know about this until watching this video. I too am considering switching camera systems. Watching this unchecks a box to switch for me.
I've been meaning to start one for ages but never got round to it. I found out about this and was so annoyed that such a cool and simple feature was so difficult to learn about it pushed me to make a video about it.
I love it when other UA-camrs crap on Blackmagic cameras, means there's more fun for us enjoying using them :)
Now that's someone that finally has something really interesting and out of the same old same old critique.
Thanks a lot for sharing that, it really is useful!
Bloody... hell.... Black Magic seem determined to undersell themselves.... good video. I have now subscribed.
I have heard of this benefit in using the Gyro Data maybe once before, but for the most part it’s a feature which has gotten lost. I’m glad to see someone take the time to so clearly demonstrate how this works. Thank you. At the same time, it’s interesting to see how much of the frame gets lost in the fixing-particularly when the camera moves in the vertical axis. Those black bars are huge. Despite the magic, in many cases where you only need to cover a handful of quick camera moves (particularly in long takes), perhaps an adjustment clip over the offending frames with a bit of directional blur feathered in would cover the problem almost as well, and not require losing so much of the frame area when the camera is still. Stabilization will crop to cover the worst offending maneuver in any given clip which could really throw off your framing for most of the take.
It's more small little wobbly jitters in handheld footage that I'm bothered by, which should require a much less significant crop. If I were doing something like a whip-pan, I wouldn't be too bothered by the rolling shutter because everything's blurred.
Besides, if you were shooting action with something like the new full frame blackmagic 6k, my solution to reduce rolling shutter would have been to crop into s35 anyway, but instead I can just shoot the full sensor with the expectation of cropping significantly later. It does suck with a small sensor camera like the pocket 4k though...
@@DiodeFilms another issue is because this relies on gyro data from camera, it will not correct anything moving in your video.
@@Venous_fx he mentions this in the video.
@@Venous_fx If it's moving horizontal, then shoot vertically.
BMPCC fan thanks you from the bottom of his heart.
BRO!!! I was looking into a global shutter camera specifically because of this. Well bmcc6k here I come!!!
This is a crazy fix, but frame is also cropped when correction is applied, that is also need to be considered.
WOW just realized this, how is this not more talked about. THANK YOU!
Fantastic thank you!!! I can't believe this is the first time im hearing about it.
This is massive man, big shoutout. CVP and Tobin both shouted you out for finding the best reason to consider blackmagic cameras over the competition for the price. I took another look into the documentation, manuals and it's really not documented well or at all. I knew that some stabilzation tools correct for rolling shutter artifacts, even the warp stabilizer has for years, but this was not well known. It might be because there just aren't enough shooters out there shooting on blackmagic cameras and editing in resolve and on youtube that have tested this tool post resolve 18, but damn great to know.
I totally agree that some reviewers don’t really give you the solutions to their complaints even though there is a possible solution. Great tip by the way! 👍🏼
I wasn't really criticising them for it, I didn't know about it until recently either. Even videos covering gyro stabilisation when it came out didn't seem to notice the ability to correct rolling shutter specifically. I guess its more blackmagic didn't realise that rolling shutter was a big deal... or maybe its only a big deal for me haha.
It could just be they don't have the answer lol maybe they use it for the review and move on you know.
Damn! We were all knew not to tell anyone about this and now YOU have spilled the beans 🙂
I found out about this earlier this past week, and couldn’t find any tutorials on it… Thank you for making this!
Unreal! You’re a legend for pointing this out.
Thanks a lot. That is ridiculous. BTW. The 12k has a readout @8k at 8.7 ms, this feels like similar to a global shutter effect, but it has no gyro stabilization, so that is why the Pockets are better to handle this in post.
Just wow! Thanks for this. It always baffles me why Blackmagic likes to keep some of their camera features a secret.
BTW, how are you able to see out of them dirty glasses? Looks like you've got a Pro-Mist filter on them 🤓
Holy!! I own a 6k Pro and had in mind to sell it because I only film handheld and the rolling shutter is pretty annoying. I film with a heavy rig, therefore I don’t use the software stabalizer a lot. But this is breaking news and puts the cards new on the table. I mean how do we not know about this?? Thank you mate!
Wow man 🤯 Can't believe it either! But looks like you're the 1st UA-camr to "discover" this, even CVP have just quoted you on their review of the full frame BMCC6K! The strangest thing to me is that Blackmagic haven't made a bigger deal about this. Thanks for sharing
Even the blackmagic design
They don’t know about it lol ! Thank you 🙌🏻
For non bm cameras you can also do this with gyro flow software. Even if the camera does not have Gyro recording you can use an external amount of GoPro to record gyro data and use that to stabilize.
Good to know but that's too many steps. Very impractical. The fact that it can work doesn't mean it's practical to do on actual projects.
Also, that's one extra gear to buy.
Sorry am quite harsh tho.
@@stanleymakafui For sure!
That being said, it's still less work while shooting, cheaper and much lighter than a gimbal. You will also learn what shots you can easily stabilize using resolves normal stabilizer and what shots you need gyro for.
I used this method on my vacation to Germany this year and it worked great. I only needed the gyro data for a handful of shots anyway as resolves built in worked great for most of them!
Wow, thank you! I was just wondering myself a couple of days ago "Why are there so many subreddits talking about this, but no actual YT video about it?" Haha, thank you so much! I just subbed and look forward to more gems from ya!
Man! That's a game changer!
Just finished a project and it something I was really frustrated about.
Tried to find a fix, didn't found anything!
But here you are! Thx so much!
you're so lucky xD
The one thing I missed about Premiere after switching to Resolve was the built in "rolling shutter repair" effect that they've had in there for years. It didn't even crop. This gyro thing is pretty neat though.
The Production 4k has global shutter and produces an amazing image. It’s not run-and-gun friendly but it is worth a look.
You are a saint and a scholar, sir. Please don’t hesitate to make more videos about any other niche earth-shattering information you come across, chances are someone will find it useful.
Now this is interesting. I did have some thoughts when they did announce the gyro stabilize feature, that the camera movement data should be able to be used for fairly accurate rolling shutter compensation. I am fairly certain I mentioned it in the Blackmagic Forums as well... Though, I didn't think of looking in the color tab for options that would let me test it without the overall stabilizing. That is a great find!
And yes. There are cases where it wouldn't help. For instance, I am fairly certain it only records one motion vector per frame so it can only deal with straight squash and skews. If you hard mount the camera to a vibrating surface, for example. Where the camera moves erratically in tiny amounts multiple times per frame, the worst form of the jello effect, that would need multiple datapoints per frame. Also, it only deals with motion that the camera does. If the talent turns head quickly for example. The eyes will be recorded as turning before the rest of the mouth. The camera gyro has no clue about that. And if you pan with a subject moving quickly across a background, the gyro stabilizing can probably correct the overall skew, but while you get a corrected background, you instead get a skewed subject.
So I do think they should break out this feature into its own plugin and call it something like "Gyro enhanced Rolling Shutter Reduction". It's not a full fix for rolling shutter. But as you say. It takes care of a lot of the cases where you actually notice it (vibrating hardmounts notwithstanding)
I’ve never seen your UA-cam channel before, and I never write comments, but I’ve just liked and subscribed because of this video
You just turned my brain to jelly.
To your question about whether we knew this... I have to say that having owned a BMPCC 4k for 3 years, I had no idea about this and I feel the same as you, why didn't I know?!
How in the world have i never heard of this....that is ridiculous! Set it to 0?? Who'd've thought of that! THANK YOU! I AM CONSTANTLY THINKING OF THE SAME THING!
Whoa I just realized this is your first video on this channel. Congrats on a great start.
Duuuuuuuuude, this is awesome. I was really beating myself about about the bmpcc6k’s rolling shutter and wishing I got the fx3 instead
Amazing, man! I use BM cameras for several years and I didn't know that. At all! Now I have a new camera!
Fascinating stuff. Makes me think the camera industry is poised for a big upset where software abruptly becomes more important than hardware, akin to the camera phone race between Google and Apple
You actually made my head blow off. I literally am in the same situation as you, loving BM but hating rolling shutter. This solves it all. THANKS❤
This is insane... this is why i hate the marketing team for black magic... they are litterally tone deaf.
It's really impressive seeing the difference. I'm curious if it might have different situations where it struggles. Another side note, if you can please increase your audio levels, I was listening to this in my car at basically full volume and it was hard to hear.
Will do, thanks for the feedback!
Well I sure am glad YOU are talking about this!
Now I know about it !
And you're right to be shocked it's a hidden secret, I'm shocked !!
(& you deserve my Subscription for this info!)
Yeah, this makes a big difference to me. I've been shooting n a P4K for 3+ years. Still love it but was hoping the next BMD offering would have fast rolling shutter (like the URSA 12k etc) and was a little disappointed. I've decided I'm getting the C6KFF anyway as the image looks so nice!
I'm going to test this now. Like you say, it's a small number of shots that are affected by rolling shutter, but in those limted cases, this looks like a great solution...
I guess it depends on timing. I’m pretty sure this was enabled when the 6K G2 came out, so pretty much any video prior to a year ago wouldn’t even know of this feature. Reviews for the 6K full frame should know this though
Holy crap. This changes the game. Thank you, good sir.
S5ii has terrible rolling shutter and even worse moire. Also s5ii does not record gyro data :(. This is a HUGE find. Thank you so much for posting this
That's what prompted me to look into it. My P4k rolling shutter bothers me and its not nearly as bad as the s5ii. I expect the new blackmagic 6k will be about the same as the s5, so for me, being able to correct it is a huge advantage.
oh my. thank you! literally no one has mentioned this
thanks so much for telling us this🙏 tested out gyro sometime but didn't no about the rolling shutter elimination on 0, mind blowing 🤯
I own a Blackmagic 6K and DaVinci.
Thank you so much for this insight !🎉
Wow, very cool! The results are really spectacular
This is an amazing find. This kind of gives it a post global shutter effect.
This is a big big feature! Thank you man
BRO THIS IS CRAZY!!! 🔥🔥🔥 Shout out for this!
I have 3 of the older BM Production Camera 4k cameras. One of the reason I use these so much is that they have global shutter - no rolling shutter. I always wondered why they never included this in their newer cameras. I have the BMPCC6K pro too. Definitely gonna be looking into this!
Night and day difference, this is amazing!
Awesome discovery, you helped out so many people with this! Much love
Yeeeeessss! That's huge!! Thanks for the test! You did a great job!
Thanks for the video! I didn't know this either and have been using Blackmagic since 2020. Definitely great to know whilst considering whether it's worth going for the FF!
You have literally just changed the game sharing this! HERO
Super helpful. Thank you for this! looking forward to seeing some more content from you. Love that quick intro too!
YOU ARE WHAT I CALL THE ULTIMATE CREATIVE. VERY KOOL
o m g
that is the most amazing thing I have seen and heard in weeks.
Thank you!!
What!? Did not know gyro stabilization actually corrected rolling shutter. Thanks for sharing this 👍👍
To compose precisely, probably smart to put some sort of frame guides on set to preemptively give you the small crop in required for this to work in post.
Awesome stuff! Little bit long explanation imho, but the info is absolutely awesome!
Holy… this is huge. Thanks for sharing!
You just reminded me to clean my glasses! Thanks for the video!
Huge! This is such a nice find and it doesn't seem to zoom in all that much either which is also a big win
Amazing. Thanks for sharing this. I really hope that some companies will come out with global shutter cameras…or bring back Foveon or CCD cameras 😂
thaaanks a lot man!! Iw anted to buy the Blackmagic 6k pro but that was my biggest problem and you just solved it
This is great! I have never read or watch anything about this solution before, thanks for sharing.
I didn't known about this features. Thank You for sharing Yours knowledge
I have this camera. This video is very important for me. Thank you!
Incredible!! I can't believe this hasn't been spoken about before
Wow. I never knew that gyro stabilization could do that. Blackmagic has the worst marketers ever! Everyone should know about this.
BLACKMAGIC NEEDS TO HIRE THIS GUY.
I TAKE THAT BACK.
HE NEEDS TO DESIGN CAMERAS ON FORTH.
Thanks for the video. I did not know about this. I will be trying this out as soon as I can. Have a nice day.
I just got to know about it as you made this video!! Thanks alot. I was having the same issue on chosing which camera due to this rolling shutter issue of BMD cameras
That is super cool. However, if your camera is on a tripod (or not moving much) and a vehicles pass, they will get the rolling shutter and won't get corrected. So it's a partly fix that comes with an intense crop. Still, good to know!
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Great video! I’ve subscribed :)
This is great news! I’ve wanted a Blackmagic camera and this was one of the things holding me back, should pair nicely with an X-H2s I think. I just wouldn’t know which to use as the A Cam lol.
🤯🤯 amigo! Brutal info, thanks for sharing and greetings from Mexico 🇲🇽!!
I want to give you 1000k good button!! Great historical discovery!!!!!!
Unfortunately I don’t have this new feature on my camera since I have the original Ursa Mini 4.6K. The sensor readout speed on the 4.6K is 15.17 milliseconds so it’s a bit faster then the pockets and I never really had an issue with the rolling shutter effect on my images which is apparent if you really give it a good jostle. It just irks me that they took the global shutter out of the mini 4.6K like they had in the original mini 4K. I guess having 15+ stops of dynamic range was a better trade off to some. And also I can still brag about having Cinema DNG RAW. I’d take that over B RAW any day of the week. It isn’t RAW if there’s ANY post processing in camera but that’s off topic and up for debate if anyone wants to argue with me on that.
HUGE! Wow. What a find.
Thank you for this revelation.. 🙌🏾🙌🏾
More people need to see this!
Try gyroflow, it's now integrated as an OFX Davinci effet. Best gyro stab, and has some more detailed settings regarding what you aiming to fix !
I thought gyroflow is what they're using for the built in stabilizer?
I'll look into the OFX. I did wonder about situations where you might want to reduce how much correction there is for rolling shutter, like maybe if the crop is too much for you? 99% of the time I can't see me needing more specific control than this though.
@@DiodeFilmsGyroFlow is something different.
I'm totally agreeing with you on this. Just found out about gyroflow being avaible as a plug in for Davinci for free, like 10 days ago.
It did wonders with Sony FX6 natively without Catalys Browse also ! Pretty sure it can be tweaked for RS with the Pocket ;)@@DiodeFilms
Man you have my respect and thanks for this information :D From a blackmagic lover!
I think most people don’t care about this feature because when you need to shoot something with that much movement/shake, you just use the appropriate tool for the job. When you don’t you can use your Blackmagic. That’s how i see it anyway. Not locked to a brand or model because i own it
I wasn’t sure if this was gonna be BS or not but I’m shocked I’ve never heard about this before.