I agree with a lot of the feedback from Twitch. There is a lot of dead time in the typical spire run that can definitely be edited down, but I feel like the cuts here were a little too aggressive. In particular, one of the things I find really compelling about your runs is understanding why you make the decisions that make the run successful, so that context of what other cards you had or what the overall map looks like is helpful. Preserving the actual conversations with chat and the humor is done really well though, and the graphics and zooms make a huge difference. If a run was cut down to 10-15m rather than 6m I think it would be better.
I agree with this a lot. I think that something similar to the edited run shown could work well for a "highlight reel" for particularly funny or cool moments that happened over the course of several runs, but for recapping a single run it feels like there's not a lot of time to breathe or let the funny moments linger. I'd really love using something akin to this format for a highlight reel of funny moments every now and then though.
Yes, I guess it depends on the *purpose* of the edit. The edit here seemed to be mostly about the funny / lulz, an edit for the reasoning / learning would be a *very* different result, but no less interesting. The edit might be significantly longer though, especially when @jorbs breaks out the pen and excel.
Pretty much this. A little aggressive on the cuts and a little jarring in comparison to what we're used to. Highlight reel is a good idea. So is toning it down a little, i.e keeping the pace a little slower and the length a little longer. Keep it a little closer to actual twitch reality. I wouldn't be opposed to something in the 20-40 minute range with a lot of dead air cut out while keeping most of the reasoning and conversation intact.
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I actually feel like this concept would work better on a game like XCOM. It works fine for StS, but with XCOM you only really need to know a few key upgrades or rewards from the strategic layer, and most battle really only have a few decisive moments from the viewers POV. In StS, your resources and tools can change dramatically over just a few floors, and you’ll always be wondering if you might have missed something really cool. I get that the whole point is highlighting the coolest moments, but it still feels rushed, even having seen the particular run you showcased unedited.
It’s a good Jorbs Meme Cut, but as edited it’s not StS content. You could literally swap out the gameplay for any other game and it would hardly matter
I really like the idea of adding some more editing content to the youtube Jorbs scene, I just think that there's a healthier length between 1.5 hours and 6 minutes. A lot of the fun of watching a StS run is hearing your opinions and reasonings, and reacting with the chat to fun parts. the editing isn't bad, but maybe would better in a 15-20 minute vid with important focused sections in between smaller funny clips
Perfectly said. The preview in this video is edited a BIT too heavily for my taste. Seeing Jorbs make decisions in context is a huge reason I watch, but the humor in some of those edits is excellent
Having an occasional "clip show" style video from runs like that would be hilarious, and definitely a treat if you don't do them too often. Definite thumbs up here!
Oh God yes, I didn't expect something like these edited cuts and they seem WONDERFUL. That said, I think there's no need to make so many aggressive camera switches or memes, just cut the parts when you take about 5 minutes to do nothing, or when you go the bathroom, or some of the chat stuff, and make it like 15/20 minutes. That could make it to get more than a run in a video, if you want to get them to 1 hour, or leave them like that, with 20 minutes. Thank you Jorbs for bringing this up.
Personally, having the musing and small talk during the runs is one of the things I really enjoy about the videos. Having the heavily edited videos feels like it speeds up the runs tempo to a bit faster than what I would enjoy watching(From the strategy games you normally play).
Yeah, the whole vibe that keeps me coming back is that Jorbs is calm and low-key funny rather than making an ass of himself to sate a pre-teen and high school audience. Not saying the edited video goes QUITE that far but it's for sure banking on the things I like least about Twitch as a platform in an attempt to go mainstream.
I feel like most of the cuts felt like they were explaining the joke, and undercut the sarcasm and subtlety that makes Jorbs so funny naturally to me. That said over all it's not something I'd really be interested in, and would be disappointed if it ate into the daily uploads. A positive is the zoom ins on twitch chat, those are jokes I'd often normally miss.
I like the idea of a "jorbs digest" of snappily edited highlights from various runs, or even various games (the Among Us "dumbasses" clip deserves to be on YT for sure), so long as the full runs are still available.
The Thumbnails are actually put together by another person. I describe what's relevant to the run, what should be included in the thumbnail, and Popret actually makes the thing and chooses what jorbs to put on there. -Joanna
I really like the edited version, but I agree that the editing is a little aggressive. I particularly enjoy the small zooms and annotations showing certain cards or chat comments.
While I don't know that I would watch those edited videos too much, I could see putting your runs in an easily digestible content growing the channel, and that's always a good thing. I'd definitely give them a try.
I really enjoy the relaxing long videos. I tend to just let it play and chill out. The way the video is edited seems to cut out much of the thought process and chat interactions that make the uncut versions so nice. I think it is a great idea to test it out though. whichever the majority chooses I will live with that.
I personally enjoy all of the aspects of watching Jorbs runs. I like to see the entire "jorbs thought process" about card choices, but I also like seeing the funny moments. The editing that was shown here seemed to focus on the funny parts, but that left out parts that I love about jorbs content. I think that I would like to see edits like this that might have clips from content that doesn't make it to UA-cam, because I already watch all of your UA-cam content. Overall, I already really like the long video format for your content, but I think these edits could be a good addition to the channel, even though I will prefer your full gameplay videos.
I’m more than happy to watch long runs, that’s what I come to this channel for! The edited runs are a little bit too fast for me, it can be pretty easy to miss a tooltip/interaction unless you pause the video. :)
I really enjoyed the heavily edited content. There are times I just want to watch cool slay the spire interactions. I really hope that this new content will be in addition to continuing to upload full runs (with some kind of easy to identify labeling) so I can enjoy your voice and content in the background of my chores.
I think that the edited content is very amusing and was a fun little watch. I would hope that you continue to post your full videos as they are very good background watches.
I confess, I normally watch jorbs at 1.5x speed, and I don't watch them all, but were there more runs like this, I could slow it down and enjoy it, and the sample was good!
I certainly enjoyed the 6:30min Silent video! I think it would be a great way to show off weird/interesting runs that don't quite make it to the end-game, my biggest problem with watching your runs that you don't win is that I can't feel invested for 1.5-2 hours when you lose (and I tend to spoil vids for myself to make sure you win before watching them). Bite-sized videos of your funny moments during losses seems like a perfect way for me personally to enjoy those runs :)
I liked the edited video, but I had also seen the full run on twitch. I feel like some of the charm of the jorbisms comes from understanding the context, so it felt like a series of inside jokes that I was lucky to have that context for. Felt most similar (bizarrely enough) to Nightblu3 vids: a good mix of highlights, cuts, and memes that compliments but also feels redundant to the original content!
The edited run was for the most part well edited. The sheer number of camera jumps when jorbs is just saying a sentence was jaring. In the few minutes we saw there was 2-3 times where the camera would jump on the last word jorbs would say and it kinda just turned by brain off. The edits where it slowly zoomed in, and the one with the math across the screen where the 2 best ones imo
I watch a lot of these runs at ~4 am when I’m going to sleep. It’s nice background noise as you are not too loud and I happen to actually like the game so to me the longer videos are a win win. Edited videos that only show good stuff can be interesting, but for those of us like me and many others cutting out some things will have us lost because I’m not completely knowledgeable about every card/relic.
I'm a big fan of the longform its intresting to hear the jorbs ramblings to chat and also seeing the moment to moment decision making process , plus they make good videos to watch when the insomnia is kicking my ass
i can see myself preferring condensed edits for watcher runs like this one close runs, in which jorbs struggles to survive, are better as a complete version this way i can witness jorbs suffer more and skip boring parts
run spark notes is quite fun. the long runs are great to relax to sleep at night, spark notes are great when i want the fun of a run without the relax to sleep part.
I like the unedited runs, but also sometimes they can be a lot to sit down and watch through in full, so I'm a big fan of having a quick hit of jorbs goodness with some memes thrown in for good measure
I really enjoyed the edit. It feels like a lot of people are expecting a 6 minute clip show to replace the depth and breadth of a full run isn't a fair comparison. This is short and fun digestible content that while I don't think I would watch every time, I think could find a following with others.
For the most part, people watch jorbs for the long from content. That said, sometimes I don't have time for the long form, and I liked that style of editing
Thanks for sharing that edited video. Bottom line: I liked it a lot. It was skillfully done and quite funny. As someone who's watched hundreds of hours of your streams and VODs (VsOD?!?), in addition to having hundreds of hours in the game myself, I don't always feel that I actually get that much out of a full run video anymore. It can be cozy background chatter, or as so many others have noted, an excellent sleep aid. ;) But a funny highlight video like this would fit into my schedule way better, giving me all the best moments of a run plus some good jokes made by someone else! I would probably watch one daily, but if it were 1x-?x times a week for whatever reason, I wouldn't feel slighted. Thanks for all the great stuff, and kudos to your viewer who created that edit. Well done indeed!
I really like the edited runs. For myself, I would like to see both. I don’t know how I’d feel about a full run and an edited version of the same run. Hope the input helps Mr. Jorbs.
I really like the edited runs. The editor can put their own personality in with how they cut things up, and if I think it's a really interesting run I can find the full run and watch that. I would love to see more!
Comments on the edited run: As somebody who watches UA-cam Jorbs content at 3x speed, I can confirm that watching the edited content segment at 3x speed was a terrible idea. I went back and watched at 1x and here are my thoughts: - I agree with twitch chat that a lot of the cuts were jarring. I especially did not enjoy the diagonal equations flying across the screen. - I do think the edits captured some entertaining twitch Jorbs banter, which was good. - One of the things I'm looking for when I watch Jorbs is to see the decision points in the run, and for me this edit cut too many of those decision points out. It felt harder to track what was happening in the run. - At 3x speed I feel like I sort of am doing my own editing down, although not nearly as far. I tend to fly through most of the run at that speed and occasionally skip backwards to understand a decision Jorbs didn't explain, like "Why didn't Jorbs play bash on lagavulin turn 1 to have 1 vulnerable on turn 2? Oh, he has 2 strength already from Girya." type moments. This pre-edited version gives me less control over what gets skipped and what doesn't. For me as a viewer, I'd want an edit that really cuts down to every individual decision in the run, and I'm not sure such an edit is really able to cut anything meaningful. tl;dr it's a cool idea for content and I'd definitely watch the next few attempts to see how I feel about them and provide additional feedback, but my first instinct is that this wouldn't be my cup of tea.
This was a fun run. I enjoyed the talk in the middle as well. For me, I enjoy JOD (Jorbs on Demand) and can sit down and watch a run of spire before bed or something. If you edited it, I think that I would still watch but I wouldn't consume it in the same way. I'd probably watch it more like I'd watch the scribbles series. Just a quick thing at lunch or something.
I really liked the edit clip. Definitely made more funny by the fact I’ve already seen the full run on UA-cam, but I liked it as it was. I’d watch those weekly, as they were, but would prefer it if I’d already seen the full run :)
I like the variety of having the edited runs. Probably runs with a lot of cool decision making or cool interactions post the whole run... but for everything else you could easily make enjoyable edited videos.
I only started playing slay the spire just over a week ago and have over 50hrs played. Completed the base run on all characters but could do an ascending on run. Decided to check out a UA-cam vid or 2 and I’m glad I found this channel! Very useful, very wholesome!
I would probably watch them if they were uploaded, maybe for runs that made it to the heart or the act 4 elite fights and died. I really do enjoy the 1-3hr format for background content, or relaxing instead of watching tv at night; also as other people have said part of the enjoyment of the content comes from your interaction with chat over the course of the run. Just my thoughts, thank you for the consistently good content.
tbqh I _like_ the long runs. I hope the edited-down videos don't replace those. The only editing I really feel like I want is to remove truly _dead_ time, like when you leave your chair to answer the door or use the bathroom.
I would definitely watch the edited runs, but please upload the full runs as well (even if in another channel). I actually enjoy seeing the reasoning behind your choices (a very seasoned player) and comparing it to my own logic.
Since we are on the subject of channel suggestions, 2 things I would like to see are: A card tracker that keeps track of the last 3 cards changes made to your deck, whether added or removed Videos that are double uploads of failed runs, that way when I click on a video its not "how does he win" but "does he win" (uploading 2 failed runs in the same video masks the length of the video, and the title would only refer to the first video)
I like the idea of having edited highlights of a run, sometimes I don't have time to sit down and watch a whole run and having a condensed version can be pretty nice
they are both good, I prefer unedited however because A: your videos are great background noise when I eat or study, B: I learn a lot watching how/when you utilize the various cards in the game. Your videos that break down each individual card are great! I like watching how they are applied over theory.
I really like the edited down run. It is a fun and energetic look at the run that would be nice to get some laughs. I would be sad if it replaced or reduced full runs. I generally enjoy watching the thought process go into how you make the choices you do throughout the run
About the edited videos: I would watch both! Being able to see the gist of a run and get some of the jokes without investing 90min into a video would be great. I'm not a huge fan of the editing (i think it could be smoother with better quality), but I think its a fantastic idea worth pursuing. I often use the longer videos to go to sleep so it would be great to see how runs develop after I've passed out the day before.
I liked the edit but that's only because I watched the full run, without that, it's too fast to appreciate the humor. Unless you're planning on uploading both versions of the run, I'd say I like the long vids more. It's fun to see the chat, your explanations and decisions in full
I like having a little more time of silence so that I can also think about decisions. In a game like xcom, more heavy editing might be nice, but for STS, vods are almost just preferred for me.
I like the edited runs idea. But I like the long form as well, it's my default background noise to put on. Too many rapid cuts, but the attention to humor and important moments is really well done! Some slight adjustment and it would be great as an addition to the twitch vods! Reminds me a lot of the wizard Steve attacks against the baldman, which were hilarious and I miss whole heartedly. Aim for the 10 minutes and everyone would benefit (I use premium so ads don't affect me personally; might be worth checking your viewer/subscriber and see what percentage use premium?). But respect for focusing on viewers first, I appreciate that a lot.
I wasn’t keeping up with the deck in the edited version. When I get distracted during a regular run and don’t realise what happened to the deck I stop watching. This seems slightly exacerbated here. Looked good quality otherwise.
I really like the idea of adding edited content alongside “long play” full run videos...but that said I think this editor’s efforts looked pretty amateur compared to other similar content. Firebat’s editor in particular does this style of content and does it very well. I’m not trying to slight whoever gave you this sample but I don’t think the quality level is high enough to want to invest money into it.
I definitely agree with Firebat as a point of reference. Theres tons of room to breathe in those videos, while still cutting the time significantly. Hell I could even imagine an editted long play that just cuts out the dead time in battles and runs and saves about 1/3 of the run time.
I think mostly the problem here is not the editing. Even a simpler one would work with more emotional character. Don't get me wrong, Jorbs is emotional, but his reaction is more a "silent realization" than a burst of emotion people are used to. And for uncut videos and/or streams such reaction rather sets the long-term mood instead of creating a single memorable moment, which is better. Soo... the only solutions I see are: 1. Change the style of streams; 2. Do separate "video runs" that have a different mood; 3. Change the edit style (maybe visualise the thought process?)
This edited version works good for like really broken or really sad runs. It may be cool to make a edited version for your coolest runs additionally to the normal stream run.
I love them but I wouldn't want them to replace any of the current runs. The editing is damn good and I would watch them as condensed versions of the runs you already upload.
Personally I like the editing style but I really enjoy listening to you talk to chat and seeing the entire run is enjoyable and has allowed me to get better by watching you. I guess I could always watch vods instead. But I guess this is my primary platform for media.
I can't say whether it's better as a 6 minute sprint or a 10-15 minute condensed run that still keeps a lot of the detail, but I thought it was really fun and I thought the comedic timing in it was very good too. I definitely want to see more and I would encourage the editor to experiment and try different lengths and format to see which feels best.
There are some really good moments in the edited content and it reminds me a lot of the edited Binding of Isaac runs I used to watch. With some refinement I think it would be a great addition to the channel. I will say I do really like the long form videos so as long as it’s not a replacement I’m for it
Edited runs are paced well, if a tiny bit fast compared to the uncut content. I enjoyed it. Assuming they will not be replacing full runs, and that vod links will still be in the description if you wanted to watch the edited run in full.
I have two main things to say regarding the edited videos. 1) I think there are too many camera cuts, and personally believe that the videos would be better without the constant shifts in camera angles/zoom. 2) Although I really do think that the edited videos would be high quality content, it's just not the content that I'm looking for when I come to Jorb's youtube/twitch. I personally really enjoy the long, slow, and methodical game play, and that's what I'm looking for/in the mood for when I watch Jorbs. I could see myself watching an edited video every now and then, but the majority of the time I think that I'd just skip them.
I like the new format in the sense that I would want to watch the full run after seeing that kind of preview. It seems like it would be more of a hype video for your runs. I also agree with some of the other comments saying that this would be great for games other than StS (like XCOM or Among Us) to get UA-camrs more interested in what you're doing in your Twitch streams that isn't being uploaded or that people might have a harder time stepping into. I think it's a good idea for you to be checking out shorter-form videos, but the comments are correct that you work best as a long form streamer/UA-camr first because your runs are so relaxing and well thought out.
I would definitely watch those edited videos. I think in places the cuts were overdone, but for the most part the worked to emphasize the funny stuff that was going on and while also giving a sense of what the deck was doing. It's very UA-cam-centric content, which is very different from your un- or minimally-edited VoD content, but as someone who also follows you on Twitch the UA-cam VoDs can sometimes be redundant, and these videos wouldn't be - I would watch a well-edited version of a run that I had already seen in its entirety. It would definitely be a change in character for the channel and I can understand the various arguments against it, but I for one would watch.
I liked it :D Develops those twitch jorbs memes. Add a couple extra seconds or so to enjoy each edit more thoroughly, they felt very quick. Outside of that I thought it could be good. Nice edit Twitch viewer!
As a highlights type video, it makes sense (with slightly longer content to follow what's going on), but it would basically be for meme / extremely silly runs that you can just have a good laugh throughout 5-10 minutes of highlight reels. Definitely not something I'd want over this or overexplained content, but a few times a week having an interesting highlights reel or a unique deck or funny situation would be cool.
I agree with a lot of the feedback from Twitch. There is a lot of dead time in the typical spire run that can definitely be edited down, but I feel like the cuts here were a little too aggressive. In particular, one of the things I find really compelling about your runs is understanding why you make the decisions that make the run successful, so that context of what other cards you had or what the overall map looks like is helpful. Preserving the actual conversations with chat and the humor is done really well though, and the graphics and zooms make a huge difference. If a run was cut down to 10-15m rather than 6m I think it would be better.
I agree with this a lot. I think that something similar to the edited run shown could work well for a "highlight reel" for particularly funny or cool moments that happened over the course of several runs, but for recapping a single run it feels like there's not a lot of time to breathe or let the funny moments linger. I'd really love using something akin to this format for a highlight reel of funny moments every now and then though.
Yes, I guess it depends on the *purpose* of the edit. The edit here seemed to be mostly about the funny / lulz, an edit for the reasoning / learning would be a *very* different result, but no less interesting. The edit might be significantly longer though, especially when @jorbs breaks out the pen and excel.
This is my favorite response so far. I agree with everything you said.
Pretty much this. A little aggressive on the cuts and a little jarring in comparison to what we're used to. Highlight reel is a good idea. So is toning it down a little, i.e keeping the pace a little slower and the length a little longer. Keep it a little closer to actual twitch reality.
I wouldn't be opposed to something in the 20-40 minute range with a lot of dead air cut out while keeping most of the reasoning and conversation intact.
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I think I prefer the unedited versions more, but I really like both. I'm not sure how popular that opinion is though.
I actually feel like this concept would work better on a game like XCOM. It works fine for StS, but with XCOM you only really need to know a few key upgrades or rewards from the strategic layer, and most battle really only have a few decisive moments from the viewers POV. In StS, your resources and tools can change dramatically over just a few floors, and you’ll always be wondering if you might have missed something really cool. I get that the whole point is highlighting the coolest moments, but it still feels rushed, even having seen the particular run you showcased unedited.
It’s a good Jorbs Meme Cut, but as edited it’s not StS content. You could literally swap out the gameplay for any other game and it would hardly matter
I'd definitely watch edited runs, some A+ chuckles in here.
I really like the idea of adding some more editing content to the youtube Jorbs scene, I just think that there's a healthier length between 1.5 hours and 6 minutes. A lot of the fun of watching a StS run is hearing your opinions and reasonings, and reacting with the chat to fun parts. the editing isn't bad, but maybe would better in a 15-20 minute vid with important focused sections in between smaller funny clips
I agree! Got nothing else to add but there you go.
I agree with this
Perfectly said. The preview in this video is edited a BIT too heavily for my taste. Seeing Jorbs make decisions in context is a huge reason I watch, but the humor in some of those edits is excellent
This, and don't make them replace said run, put it as an aside at the same time. It's very great though, love it.
I agree with this, 20 mins seems about right
Having an occasional "clip show" style video from runs like that would be hilarious, and definitely a treat if you don't do them too often. Definite thumbs up here!
Oh God yes, I didn't expect something like these edited cuts and they seem WONDERFUL.
That said, I think there's no need to make so many aggressive camera switches or memes, just cut the parts when you take about 5 minutes to do nothing, or when you go the bathroom, or some of the chat stuff, and make it like 15/20 minutes.
That could make it to get more than a run in a video, if you want to get them to 1 hour, or leave them like that, with 20 minutes.
Thank you Jorbs for bringing this up.
Personally, having the musing and small talk during the runs is one of the things I really enjoy about the videos. Having the heavily edited videos feels like it speeds up the runs tempo to a bit faster than what I would enjoy watching(From the strategy games you normally play).
Its very... energetic and involved. Thats not really what I watch this stuff for. Its quality, but its not for me.
Yeah, the whole vibe that keeps me coming back is that Jorbs is calm and low-key funny rather than making an ass of himself to sate a pre-teen and high school audience. Not saying the edited video goes QUITE that far but it's for sure banking on the things I like least about Twitch as a platform in an attempt to go mainstream.
Agree with this 100%. I think the format will be successful, but I don't think I'd watch it.
@@FunnelCakeRyan disagree, its kinda offensive
I feel like most of the cuts felt like they were explaining the joke, and undercut the sarcasm and subtlety that makes Jorbs so funny naturally to me. That said over all it's not something I'd really be interested in, and would be disappointed if it ate into the daily uploads. A positive is the zoom ins on twitch chat, those are jokes I'd often normally miss.
These edited runs would be a good style for a once a month "best of jorbs" montage.
A mix of both feels ideal to me. A weekly Slay the Spire Short and for the people who want more can enjoy the unedited runs.
This is one of those runs where the heart actually died sometime in Act 1, and you just had to climb the rest of the way to deliver the news.
I kinda dig the condensed comedy version of a Jorbs run
I like the idea of a "jorbs digest" of snappily edited highlights from various runs, or even various games (the Among Us "dumbasses" clip deserves to be on YT for sure), so long as the full runs are still available.
Whoever manages the UA-cam is adorable and their thumbnails are cute AYAYA
That's thumbnail jorbs
The Thumbnails are actually put together by another person. I describe what's relevant to the run, what should be included in the thumbnail, and Popret actually makes the thing and chooses what jorbs to put on there. -Joanna
@@Jorbs Is it hard to choose between so many existing Jorbs around?
Really like the edited runs, makes it more comical in some aspects, as well as highlighting important parts of the run
I really like the edited version, but I agree that the editing is a little aggressive. I particularly enjoy the small zooms and annotations showing certain cards or chat comments.
While I don't know that I would watch those edited videos too much, I could see putting your runs in an easily digestible content growing the channel, and that's always a good thing. I'd definitely give them a try.
I really enjoy the relaxing long videos. I tend to just let it play and chill out. The way the video is edited seems to cut out much of the thought process and chat interactions that make the uncut versions so nice. I think it is a great idea to test it out though. whichever the majority chooses I will live with that.
I personally enjoy all of the aspects of watching Jorbs runs. I like to see the entire "jorbs thought process" about card choices, but I also like seeing the funny moments. The editing that was shown here seemed to focus on the funny parts, but that left out parts that I love about jorbs content. I think that I would like to see edits like this that might have clips from content that doesn't make it to UA-cam, because I already watch all of your UA-cam content. Overall, I already really like the long video format for your content, but I think these edits could be a good addition to the channel, even though I will prefer your full gameplay videos.
I’m more than happy to watch long runs, that’s what I come to this channel for! The edited runs are a little bit too fast for me, it can be pretty easy to miss a tooltip/interaction unless you pause the video. :)
I really enjoyed the heavily edited content. There are times I just want to watch cool slay the spire interactions. I really hope that this new content will be in addition to continuing to upload full runs (with some kind of easy to identify labeling) so I can enjoy your voice and content in the background of my chores.
I think that the edited content is very amusing and was a fun little watch. I would hope that you continue to post your full videos as they are very good background watches.
I confess, I normally watch jorbs at 1.5x speed, and I don't watch them all, but were there more runs like this, I could slow it down and enjoy it, and the sample was good!
I certainly enjoyed the 6:30min Silent video! I think it would be a great way to show off weird/interesting runs that don't quite make it to the end-game, my biggest problem with watching your runs that you don't win is that I can't feel invested for 1.5-2 hours when you lose (and I tend to spoil vids for myself to make sure you win before watching them). Bite-sized videos of your funny moments during losses seems like a perfect way for me personally to enjoy those runs :)
I liked the edited video, but I had also seen the full run on twitch. I feel like some of the charm of the jorbisms comes from understanding the context, so it felt like a series of inside jokes that I was lucky to have that context for. Felt most similar (bizarrely enough) to Nightblu3 vids: a good mix of highlights, cuts, and memes that compliments but also feels redundant to the original content!
The edited run was for the most part well edited. The sheer number of camera jumps when jorbs is just saying a sentence was jaring. In the few minutes we saw there was 2-3 times where the camera would jump on the last word jorbs would say and it kinda just turned by brain off.
The edits where it slowly zoomed in, and the one with the math across the screen where the 2 best ones imo
I watch a lot of these runs at ~4 am when I’m going to sleep. It’s nice background noise as you are not too loud and I happen to actually like the game so to me the longer videos are a win win. Edited videos that only show good stuff can be interesting, but for those of us like me and many others cutting out some things will have us lost because I’m not completely knowledgeable about every card/relic.
I would watch that new content every day. So bite sized and perfect for a quick break.
I'm a big fan of the longform its intresting to hear the jorbs ramblings to chat and also seeing the moment to moment decision making process , plus they make good videos to watch when the insomnia is kicking my ass
i can see myself preferring condensed edits for watcher runs like this one
close runs, in which jorbs struggles to survive, are better as a complete version
this way i can witness jorbs suffer more and skip boring parts
run spark notes is quite fun. the long runs are great to relax to sleep at night, spark notes are great when i want the fun of a run without the relax to sleep part.
I like the unedited runs, but also sometimes they can be a lot to sit down and watch through in full, so I'm a big fan of having a quick hit of jorbs goodness with some memes thrown in for good measure
I really enjoyed the edit. It feels like a lot of people are expecting a 6 minute clip show to replace the depth and breadth of a full run isn't a fair comparison. This is short and fun digestible content that while I don't think I would watch every time, I think could find a following with others.
For the most part, people watch jorbs for the long from content. That said, sometimes I don't have time for the long form, and I liked that style of editing
Thanks for sharing that edited video. Bottom line: I liked it a lot. It was skillfully done and quite funny. As someone who's watched hundreds of hours of your streams and VODs (VsOD?!?), in addition to having hundreds of hours in the game myself, I don't always feel that I actually get that much out of a full run video anymore. It can be cozy background chatter, or as so many others have noted, an excellent sleep aid. ;) But a funny highlight video like this would fit into my schedule way better, giving me all the best moments of a run plus some good jokes made by someone else! I would probably watch one daily, but if it were 1x-?x times a week for whatever reason, I wouldn't feel slighted. Thanks for all the great stuff, and kudos to your viewer who created that edit. Well done indeed!
I really like the edited runs. For myself, I would like to see both. I don’t know how I’d feel about a full run and an edited version of the same run. Hope the input helps Mr. Jorbs.
I really like the edited runs. The editor can put their own personality in with how they cut things up, and if I think it's a really interesting run I can find the full run and watch that. I would love to see more!
UA-cam Jorbs is evolving. Can we stop this man before it's too late?
This is a good way to pick up all of the funny bits of a run. I wouldn't expect to get better at the game watching this.
Comments on the edited run:
As somebody who watches UA-cam Jorbs content at 3x speed, I can confirm that watching the edited content segment at 3x speed was a terrible idea. I went back and watched at 1x and here are my thoughts:
- I agree with twitch chat that a lot of the cuts were jarring. I especially did not enjoy the diagonal equations flying across the screen.
- I do think the edits captured some entertaining twitch Jorbs banter, which was good.
- One of the things I'm looking for when I watch Jorbs is to see the decision points in the run, and for me this edit cut too many of those decision points out. It felt harder to track what was happening in the run.
- At 3x speed I feel like I sort of am doing my own editing down, although not nearly as far. I tend to fly through most of the run at that speed and occasionally skip backwards to understand a decision Jorbs didn't explain, like "Why didn't Jorbs play bash on lagavulin turn 1 to have 1 vulnerable on turn 2? Oh, he has 2 strength already from Girya." type moments. This pre-edited version gives me less control over what gets skipped and what doesn't. For me as a viewer, I'd want an edit that really cuts down to every individual decision in the run, and I'm not sure such an edit is really able to cut anything meaningful.
tl;dr it's a cool idea for content and I'd definitely watch the next few attempts to see how I feel about them and provide additional feedback, but my first instinct is that this wouldn't be my cup of tea.
This was a fun run. I enjoyed the talk in the middle as well. For me, I enjoy JOD (Jorbs on Demand) and can sit down and watch a run of spire before bed or something. If you edited it, I think that I would still watch but I wouldn't consume it in the same way. I'd probably watch it more like I'd watch the scribbles series. Just a quick thing at lunch or something.
the new youtube content bit felt like it was a slay the spire video for people who have never seen your stuff/never seen slay the spire.
I really liked the edit clip. Definitely made more funny by the fact I’ve already seen the full run on UA-cam, but I liked it as it was. I’d watch those weekly, as they were, but would prefer it if I’d already seen the full run :)
I like the variety of having the edited runs. Probably runs with a lot of cool decision making or cool interactions post the whole run... but for everything else you could easily make enjoyable edited videos.
I'd love both formats. I enjoy watching the long streams, but I would also enjoy like a 'run of the week' supercut or something.
I love the edited material. I loled a couple times. I'd watch all of them for sure.
I only started playing slay the spire just over a week ago and have over 50hrs played. Completed the base run on all characters but could do an ascending on run. Decided to check out a UA-cam vid or 2 and I’m glad I found this channel! Very useful, very wholesome!
This idea is beautiful and so much fun lmao I like it!
I enjoy watching the entire run.
Pure uncut jorbs.
I would probably watch them if they were uploaded, maybe for runs that made it to the heart or the act 4 elite fights and died. I really do enjoy the 1-3hr format for background content, or relaxing instead of watching tv at night; also as other people have said part of the enjoyment of the content comes from your interaction with chat over the course of the run. Just my thoughts, thank you for the consistently good content.
tbqh I _like_ the long runs. I hope the edited-down videos don't replace those. The only editing I really feel like I want is to remove truly _dead_ time, like when you leave your chair to answer the door or use the bathroom.
So im conflicted, i like it but we watch 3 hour "Jorbs does math on a spreadsheet " runs and i dont know if that matches the channel.
Visual spreadsheets and analysis?
maybe make a new channel "jorbs minis" for these edits and other 'off brand' short content.
I would definitely watch the edited runs, but please upload the full runs as well (even if in another channel). I actually enjoy seeing the reasoning behind your choices (a very seasoned player) and comparing it to my own logic.
as long as the edited runs don't stop the unedited runs, I would love to see them :)
Since we are on the subject of channel suggestions, 2 things I would like to see are:
A card tracker that keeps track of the last 3 cards changes made to your deck, whether added or removed
Videos that are double uploads of failed runs, that way when I click on a video its not "how does he win" but "does he win" (uploading 2 failed runs in the same video masks the length of the video, and the title would only refer to the first video)
I like the idea of having edited highlights of a run, sometimes I don't have time to sit down and watch a whole run and having a condensed version can be pretty nice
they are both good, I prefer unedited however because A: your videos are great background noise when I eat or study, B: I learn a lot watching how/when you utilize the various cards in the game. Your videos that break down each individual card are great! I like watching how they are applied over theory.
I really like the edited down run. It is a fun and energetic look at the run that would be nice to get some laughs. I would be sad if it replaced or reduced full runs. I generally enjoy watching the thought process go into how you make the choices you do throughout the run
About the edited videos:
I would watch both! Being able to see the gist of a run and get some of the jokes without investing 90min into a video would be great. I'm not a huge fan of the editing (i think it could be smoother with better quality), but I think its a fantastic idea worth pursuing. I often use the longer videos to go to sleep so it would be great to see how runs develop after I've passed out the day before.
This may just be me, but I could watch uncut jorbs run all day. But I understand the quick content too
So those Bite Sized Jorbs clips are amazing and I personally love them
I wouldn't want it to replace the existing content on the channel, but it looks like it could be a really fun "highlights"-style video.
I liked the edit but that's only because I watched the full run, without that, it's too fast to appreciate the humor. Unless you're planning on uploading both versions of the run, I'd say I like the long vids more. It's fun to see the chat, your explanations and decisions in full
I like having a little more time of silence so that I can also think about decisions. In a game like xcom, more heavy editing might be nice, but for STS, vods are almost just preferred for me.
I've always liked the long vods for how chill they are, but you're fucking hilarious so more edited stuff is great.
I like the edited runs idea. But I like the long form as well, it's my default background noise to put on.
Too many rapid cuts, but the attention to humor and important moments is really well done! Some slight adjustment and it would be great as an addition to the twitch vods!
Reminds me a lot of the wizard Steve attacks against the baldman, which were hilarious and I miss whole heartedly. Aim for the 10 minutes and everyone would benefit (I use premium so ads don't affect me personally; might be worth checking your viewer/subscriber and see what percentage use premium?). But respect for focusing on viewers first, I appreciate that a lot.
I wasn’t keeping up with the deck in the edited version. When I get distracted during a regular run and don’t realise what happened to the deck I stop watching. This seems slightly exacerbated here. Looked good quality otherwise.
A lot of people already said it. The cuts are a little harsh, but the idea of a shorter version of the runs seems really compelling.
What a strong start! I’ll keep watching!
I really like the idea of adding edited content alongside “long play” full run videos...but that said I think this editor’s efforts looked pretty amateur compared to other similar content. Firebat’s editor in particular does this style of content and does it very well. I’m not trying to slight whoever gave you this sample but I don’t think the quality level is high enough to want to invest money into it.
I definitely agree with Firebat as a point of reference. Theres tons of room to breathe in those videos, while still cutting the time significantly.
Hell I could even imagine an editted long play that just cuts out the dead time in battles and runs and saves about 1/3 of the run time.
I think mostly the problem here is not the editing. Even a simpler one would work with more emotional character. Don't get me wrong, Jorbs is emotional, but his reaction is more a "silent realization" than a burst of emotion people are used to. And for uncut videos and/or streams such reaction rather sets the long-term mood instead of creating a single memorable moment, which is better.
Soo... the only solutions I see are:
1. Change the style of streams;
2. Do separate "video runs" that have a different mood;
3. Change the edit style (maybe visualise the thought process?)
This edited version works good for like really broken or really sad runs.
It may be cool to make a edited version for your coolest runs additionally to the normal stream run.
Because of your explanations and gameplay, I bought sts and have greatly improved.
I personally watch all the full videos and am never bothered with the lengths. More content is always appreciated though!
I love them but I wouldn't want them to replace any of the current runs. The editing is damn good and I would watch them as condensed versions of the runs you already upload.
Well so the new content can be a best off episode
Or like a preview before a run start picking the best moment of the run
Personally I like the editing style but I really enjoy listening to you talk to chat and seeing the entire run is enjoyable and has allowed me to get better by watching you. I guess I could always watch vods instead. But I guess this is my primary platform for media.
I can't say whether it's better as a 6 minute sprint or a 10-15 minute condensed run that still keeps a lot of the detail, but I thought it was really fun and I thought the comedic timing in it was very good too. I definitely want to see more and I would encourage the editor to experiment and try different lengths and format to see which feels best.
There are some really good moments in the edited content and it reminds me a lot of the edited Binding of Isaac runs I used to watch. With some refinement I think it would be a great addition to the channel. I will say I do really like the long form videos so as long as it’s not a replacement I’m for it
thank to youtubejorbs today i finished ironclad ascension 20!!! deadbrach + necronomicon
Thanks for the segmented video lmao, very helpful
Montage jorbs would be exceptional. twitch chat has provided an excellent idea
Edited runs are paced well, if a tiny bit fast compared to the uncut content. I enjoyed it. Assuming they will not be replacing full runs, and that vod links will still be in the description if you wanted to watch the edited run in full.
I have two main things to say regarding the edited videos. 1) I think there are too many camera cuts, and personally believe that the videos would be better without the constant shifts in camera angles/zoom. 2) Although I really do think that the edited videos would be high quality content, it's just not the content that I'm looking for when I come to Jorb's youtube/twitch. I personally really enjoy the long, slow, and methodical game play, and that's what I'm looking for/in the mood for when I watch Jorbs. I could see myself watching an edited video every now and then, but the majority of the time I think that I'd just skip them.
I like the new format in the sense that I would want to watch the full run after seeing that kind of preview. It seems like it would be more of a hype video for your runs. I also agree with some of the other comments saying that this would be great for games other than StS (like XCOM or Among Us) to get UA-camrs more interested in what you're doing in your Twitch streams that isn't being uploaded or that people might have a harder time stepping into.
I think it's a good idea for you to be checking out shorter-form videos, but the comments are correct that you work best as a long form streamer/UA-camr first because your runs are so relaxing and well thought out.
I agree with this as a weekly highlight thing, spanning over a bunch of runs or something like that
i think half an hour is the magic amount of time to success i think, anyway i love what you do!
I would definitely watch those edited videos. I think in places the cuts were overdone, but for the most part the worked to emphasize the funny stuff that was going on and while also giving a sense of what the deck was doing. It's very UA-cam-centric content, which is very different from your un- or minimally-edited VoD content, but as someone who also follows you on Twitch the UA-cam VoDs can sometimes be redundant, and these videos wouldn't be - I would watch a well-edited version of a run that I had already seen in its entirety.
It would definitely be a change in character for the channel and I can understand the various arguments against it, but I for one would watch.
I’m fine with the edited runs as long as the long runs are uploaded as well. I need my daily fix of 2 hour jorbs for working background noise.
I remember watching this run from the simulation conversation. I felt attacked by zoom in over cards chat and such.
I really like that once a month suggestion actually since I'd get a kick out of it but it might be a bit much if there is a lot of output from this
I liked it :D Develops those twitch jorbs memes. Add a couple extra seconds or so to enjoy each edit more thoroughly, they felt very quick. Outside of that I thought it could be good. Nice edit Twitch viewer!
I think he could have given the heart a run for it's money right after the slime boss fight. What a run.
Hey, that's so cool! I know Jen Shahade through the poker community. Will have to go seek out your interview with her :)
Damn mods you are killing it lately with the seeds, keep it up.
I Love the unedited versions because They are really relaxing to watch and not cluttered. If you warnt cluttered u can watch shooter games
I think it would be great for a win streak compilation. Would totally watch a 10 win streak shrunk down into 60-90 minutes.
As a highlights type video, it makes sense (with slightly longer content to follow what's going on), but it would basically be for meme / extremely silly runs that you can just have a good laugh throughout 5-10 minutes of highlight reels. Definitely not something I'd want over this or overexplained content, but a few times a week having an interesting highlights reel or a unique deck or funny situation would be cool.