The watch media loves selling people on the idea that Panerai is dead. Fact of the matter is they're still selling a ton of watches. The local boutique in my city crushed it during this past holiday season.
Closed case backs to hide undecorated movements that don't hack. Panerai did another Brooklyn edition to the 2020-2022 PAM 1312 & 1313. Look up Perezscope article on the cost cutting and use of ETA movements (when they still call them in-house).
I would agree about the more contemporary look of the newer Luminors. I'm currently looking to add a PAM 1313/1316 to make it a trio of Panerai in my collection. IMO the 44mm suits the watch better, but hey, if you're a little smaller of wrist, then it is nice to have a 40mm option out there.
Own it and I love it. For the Paneristi who don’t want a huge chunk of watch, this is perfect. Slim, elegant, or wears equally well in a swim trunks or in a tuxedo. Fantastic!
By the way, I am a Rolex, Cartier and Omega guy… I do own a little collection of these brands! But yesterday I walked into a Panerai boutique and bought the PAM 914 very vintage look very lovely watch and I love it , more than my 3 RLX sub… 44 case size is beautiful on my wrist/ 6,8 … Guys and watch lovers please try the Panerai on beautiful, magnifique brand.
I'm pulling for Panerai but here is the problem. If I'm looking for a tool watch, there are a ton of better options out there. Some of the options are much less expensive and have a better movement as well as better brand history. For example, a simple Omega Seamaster or a Tudor BB. Even Breitling has some cool dive watches (Heritage SuperOcean) that you can get for a lot less money. Panerai has a lot of work to do to justify their pricing.
But if you want the look and feel of a Panerai, there is no substitute. Substituting a watch like a Tudor or Omega for a Panerai will never fill the void. You will always look down at your wrist and regret what you did. You bought the wrong watch. I have a PAM00112 with the sandwich dial and display case back and no other watch at that price point even comes close.
I have a Panerai PAM 048, it is 40mm and I love it in my 17cm wrist, is true that is a liitle bit chunky, but still great size!!!! I use it on original rubber strap or alligator, besides at the time it came with a deployant buckle.
As long as a watch can go in a swimming pool or snorkeling at the beach that’s good for me and 100m will do that. That IWC looks awesome ! It’s my favorite watch they produce right now. Would like to see a talking hands video of that
the watch on your wrist is what, you look across the room at your watch and it it looks just like every other watch out there. you have a Panerai on and you can tell exactly what it is and only Panerai can say that
Judging by Rolex upping the size of the Submariner for the first time in over 60 years, Patek releasing largest cases in history at 42.7mm, I don't believe this is true at all.
I never thought I'd end up with a Panerai. On a whim, I saw a ceramic model, which I thought was PVD. Note..I did not follow Panerai and had no idea of their line-up. I generally steer clear of PVD and DLC because they scratch way too easy...when the sale person said it was ceramic, I tried it on. Instant ❤ at first sight. I stewed for a week before I ended up buying it...not at the AD, as they refused to negotiate a dime off list. I picked up the PAM01441 ceramic gmt and I wear it constantly. Of course, I have a 7.5" wrist, so it's perfect. The best part is my dog can't patina this one like she likes to do with my other steel models. As far as a 40mm, I don't know...I kind of like the beefy stance. The smallest I generally go is 40mm, so I'm not sure this would be for me. 42mm..maybe, but the 44 is just awesome.
Panerai Luminor Marina Quaranta has a similar movement that Clifton Baumatic has with a closed case back. I would like to see an open case-back with their P.9010 calibre and 100m WR. I think I'm getting less than what I paid for when I'm buying a Panerai.
John, I totally agree with your take on this topic. I love Panerai. I have a Marina at 44mm and it has been in my watch box for 3 years. I would buy the 40 mm White Face. By the way most of my Friends that have left Panerai have moved to Rolex. A popular first Rolex after Panerai has been the Explorer II. Keep up the great content.
A brand is base on trust and all this have ruin the brand from collectors with all the unethical on limited edition scandal to modified “in-house movement “ . I still own a Panerai 44mm and I hope Richmont group really look into this and the brand can win back the trust of the watch community.
Eric, I just bought my Panerai PAM914 and I love it so much… I do own few Rolex’s, Cartier, Omega as well. But the Panerai is like a magic in my watch collection, the case size, the crown, the dial and the vintage look is just unbelievable piece to be added to any watch lover or collector!!!
Congrats to Panerai for finally coming out with a 40 MM watch. I still want to see Panerai make a dial that gets me more excited and leverages Italian styling. BTW, what type of movement does Panerai use?
I have a 7inch wrist, my Panerai Due fits me perfect. A 40mm was to uncomfortable with the crown I also got the watch with the metal bracelet, ordered the blue strap with the cream stitching,with the blue dial looks and feels great.
In addition to the piece in the vid, the Luminor 10day gmt in blue is ridiculously gorgeous…they also have a few ceramic models that are nice as well…they will be just fine.
I have been thinking about getting a Panerai for years. Every time I am close to pull the trigger something happens. I think the new PAM 1314 is absolutely gorgeous, and I am thinking finally I will have a Panerai in my collection.
@@CayenneTurboDriver Nope. I finally got it. The watch is absolutely gorgeous. There are things that I don't like. The movement doesn't hack which is almost inexcusable at this price range. The second is that the watch doesn't have an open case. I bought the watch with my heart, so despite of those two things I am in love with it 🙂.
Not sure why he says "their last fighting chance",...the company is doing just fine with its sales revenues and has the backing of Richemont. It doesn't get better than that. I also visited both Panerai boutiques in NYC and they are very busy with lots of people buying up their watches despite Covid.
They are a watch packed with history and a unique story. They are also a great way to get attention and that seems to be important to most people in the watch collecting business. For various reasons, of course. The weakest part of the Panerai brand are generally the actual watch mechanics vs its competitors... with that said, I would estimate that 90 plus percent of luxury watch owners would have no idea if they had a $20 Japanese automatic movement transplanted into their $10,000 watch so ... but away if you like Panerai. I do . . . 🙃
For a while now I have noticed an increasing demand for smaller watches, I personally always harp that string LOL. Are you listening to this, Mr. Breitling? Nice watch!
I bought a pam00048. 40mm, 300m water resistance, also like the date magnification. People will say panerai has to be big… I just don’t care… I found a panerai that fits me and really like it. Kind of funny on how watch community complain that panerai don’t innovate and at the same time complain when they change the case size to accommodate smaller wrists.
@r2l100 the brand continues to sell to people who like the style. And unlike other brands, there is no other that looks like their watches. So while the craze of the early 00s is dead, the brand is secure and stable.
I am all in for it. The old 40mm pam48, pam125, etc. looked like hamburgers. This is proportionate and looks like a scaled down original Luminor. I am getting a black dial. Thanks John P.
Besides the watch, by the way great watch on a great size, let's be honests one and for all, water resistance for watches is such a BS in general, i'm every now and then, maximum deepth I went it's been around 30 mts may be 35 mts which is actually a lot, if watches would really be resisting 50 mts for real or let's say 100 as most of them it's truly enough, many youtubers saying that 100mts should be enough for most of the people I would say it's not enough for just 1/100.000 people, deepths superior to 100 mts people really know what that means???... I would feel extremely satisfied with a real 50 mts water resistance watch
The depth rating is based on atmospheric pressure. 30 meters is really just splash proof. I would not swim with a 30 meter resistant watch. The min water resistance for a watch I would be comfortable swimming with is 100 meters.
@@cecaju9516 I know, that’s why I mention “if” they would resist truly 30 I would be already comfortable with it. Anyway, 100, 300, 1000 real depth is just a nonsense.
It’s such a confusing mismatch. I have an IWC mark viii which is 60 meters, but IWC say you can safely swim and snorkel with it. That’s how it should be I think, I shouldn’t need 100m rating for that.
Luxury watches are pieces of ingeneering art. So flexing their RD muscles plus design is what attracts folks to them while paying extra $$. Your logic implies everybody would just be good with a 100$ Casio since they tell time just as well if not better let alone a smart watch.
Absolutely agree John. Can wait to try this piece, I have Pam111 and love so much with my 17cm wrist it’s fits right, because this luminor case, 1950case 44mm fits not well on me, in-house 40mm classic design it’s what we want for sure 👍😎
The essence of a panerai is It’s military roots, diver functions and large size for good underwater visibility. Going smaller and becoming a dress watch is not the right way. Watch collectors want authenticity.
Great video, i have a Panerai 42mm gmt and absolutly love it, i think 40mm is a good move for the brand, i am a.diver and have omega, breitling and never ever take those watches in deep water we divers have computer watches for that so 100m is more than enough in real life, btw im waiting for your 22/20mm straps for my Panerai exactly 🙂
100m water resistant? I will allow it...Then again they should reduce the number of different variations. Their catalog should consist of the 3 main lines: Luminor, Radiomir and Submersible. Submersibles and Luminors should be always rugged 300m or more divers in sizes 40mm and bigger for Luminors and 42mm and bigger for Submersibles. Radiomiomirs can start at 38mm with 100m water resistant minimum. All models should come with an extra rubber strap indicating confidence in their diving capabilities. This also advertises the availability of different color straps to new customers. Special editions like Marenostrums should be just that: special and limited.
I wear my 45mm Radiomir pretty much everyday and my wrists are on the small side. For me the thickness is more of a problem than the diameter. Due i feel does have place in the world, still probably won't buy one unless for a his & hers collection. I feel like the trajectory that this brand is headed is to apeal to those who turned away from the brand just because of the size. And i genuinely think hit the nail on the head, and i really really hope that you are right. As a lover of the brand thank you so much for this video!
Owner of a beautiful Panerai Luminor 1950 3 Days Chrono Flyback !, I have only one question every time I see a Panerai on someone’s wrist!, IS IT REAL or IS IT FAKE ?.
Hang on a minuite, the Paneri was the cover star in last months Watchtime, and certainly in England theres some marketing but the new 100m are way off Pams USP, if Seiko can manage a 200m watch for £500 you can for 10x as much, oh and consider a better movement
You can buy a 300m water resistant panerai if you want it. You can also buy a 1000m water resistant panerai if you want it. Aren't the Rolex Yacht Master, GMT and Explorer models 100m water resistant also?
Panerai will attract haters and skeptics. But the design is so unique and iconic, it does grow on you. To my mind, Richard Mille is another brand that just doesn't give a damn what the skeptics think, they are in the league of their own. Tag Heuer Monaco is another design that will always gnenerate sketptics but it's so unique, it sets itself apart from every other watches that are conservative and safe but so normal. I have personally moved on from the normal to unique and distinctive.
Love this watch at 40mm in all three dial colours. Would never buy a 44mm as just oo big for me. I think it's overpriced though. Maybe they'll bring out a 40mm luminor base model. Hopefully!
Panerai is dead to me...just sold off my entire collection (10 watches) after they put the last nail in the coffin of my collecting relationship with the brand. Damaged my Luminor after a full service and then tried to make me feel like they were doing me a favor for fixing their mistakes. Shame on Panerai because I love their watches, but have now come to hate their shoddy customer service and lack of concern for destroying the faith of their "valued customers" in the brand. I turned in my 'Paneristi' membership card and will never look back.
I actually think the 42 was perfect. You cant reduce everything.. like how silly would a 40 mm Offshore be? Anyway, the 2 new models with orange accents were fantastic (but 44mm)
The problem with Panerai is they bring something new out too often. Look at the amount of cases sizes, case materials, dial colours etc they have released over the last 5 years. They need to go back to their roots and stick to the basics that made them so popular.
Pam’s glory days are 20 odd years ago Panerai:No need for open back,titanium sublime,44mm readable so practicable,with titanium so light,iconic case that separates the watch from all others,bang around durable,titanium watch band unbelievablely comfortable,get your leather bands at dangerous 9 not Panerai,buy pre driven watches of their best years of production approximately 20 years ago(definitely worth the money)and enjoy this iconically historical watch brand
I don't agree. The selling point of Panerai is the big open dials on oversized cases. That what makes them unique. They are period correct in size at 44 and 47mm. They now sell 38mm, 40mm, 42mm, 44mm and 47mm cases in Luminor alone. I think they are now releasing far too many models. Look at the value retention of their historic 44 and 47mm pieces compared to all of these new sizes. If you want a 40mm watch, there are hundreds out there. If you want a Panerai, buy a 44 or 47mm in my opinion. That's what Panerai is for.
I am really looking forward this watch. It is certainly not worth the asking price, but here in the UK don't give discounts at all. So I'm on the fence. More importantly the store I frequent said these are not readily available as of now and mainly boutique only. So lets see how this plays out in the end. I might get one. Having said that, I am also one of the few people who actually don't mind the Due either.
Hello John, thank you for this review. I think you should go to politics, you speak so much and the watch itself could be covered in less than 3 mins easy. :)
I love the designs, don’t love the super high price, but also 100m WR is Ok but should be higher. Also why use exotic animal strap instead of a bracelet or Italian rubber?!
Lolling at people who want 40mm panerai. Panerai has a particular case which is not suitable for tiny miny sheeps. It should stick to 44 45 and lowest should be 42. Just have good colors and better complication options across the whole range.
Nothing about the movement? Is it true that the movement doesn't hack? Why would that be? Is the movement in-house. Is this watch a decent value proposition?
Sorry but the new watch isn’t that innovative on their part! Their old watches which had 8 days(if memory serves me right) were innovative but deteriorated prematurely over the stress of the main spring force on the pivot. Why didn’t they do a bit of R&D before offering these to the public. They should use a team of designers for starters and bring something hot & new! Sorry to be a party pooper! John
The production of this watch clearly cut corners and that’s disappointing. No reason why this watch should have a SnapBack case. Should the day date not have a twin lock crown because it’s a dress watch? There’s heritage and sticking to brand ethos which this model doesn’t fully represent which is a missed opportunity.
Are you serious? At the beginning and end of this video you’re advertising for straps and in the middle of the video you ask who needs more water resistance for a watch that has crocodile straps? Straps can be changed as this is no traditional dress watch. You look at this watch and expect it to be water resistant. Are 100 m sufficient? Sure! But are 100 m what is expected from the brand and from this design?
Every dog has its day, and my god, didn’t they take advantage of their popularity. Well the party is over for them, and IMO rightly so. Special edition after special edition, poor customer service, advertising fakes, Divers that weren’t divers, not to mention Brooklyn Bridge.🤦🏻♂️ You had a good run, lads, but good luck and hype have caught up with you.
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The watch media loves selling people on the idea that Panerai is dead. Fact of the matter is they're still selling a ton of watches. The local boutique in my city crushed it during this past holiday season.
Fully agree. There are waiting lists for many models now and boutiques opening everywhere. For a dead brand, that's a strange strategy.
Closed case backs to hide undecorated movements that don't hack. Panerai did another Brooklyn edition to the 2020-2022 PAM 1312 & 1313. Look up Perezscope article on the cost cutting and use of ETA movements (when they still call them in-house).
I would agree about the more contemporary look of the newer Luminors. I'm currently looking to add a PAM 1313/1316 to make it a trio of Panerai in my collection. IMO the 44mm suits the watch better, but hey, if you're a little smaller of wrist, then it is nice to have a 40mm option out there.
Own it and I love it. For the Paneristi who don’t want a huge chunk of watch, this is perfect. Slim, elegant, or wears equally well in a swim trunks or in a tuxedo. Fantastic!
By the way, I am a Rolex, Cartier and Omega guy… I do own a little collection of these brands!
But yesterday I walked into a Panerai boutique and bought the PAM 914 very vintage look very lovely watch and I love it , more than my 3 RLX sub… 44 case size is beautiful on my wrist/ 6,8 …
Guys and watch lovers please try the Panerai on beautiful, magnifique brand.
Cartier is the watch my grandma prefers. So do her friends.
I'm pulling for Panerai but here is the problem. If I'm looking for a tool watch, there are a ton of better options out there. Some of the options are much less expensive and have a better movement as well as better brand history. For example, a simple Omega Seamaster or a Tudor BB. Even Breitling has some cool dive watches (Heritage SuperOcean) that you can get for a lot less money. Panerai has a lot of work to do to justify their pricing.
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But if you want the look and feel of a Panerai, there is no substitute. Substituting a watch like a Tudor or Omega for a Panerai will never fill the void. You will always look down at your wrist and regret what you did. You bought the wrong watch. I have a PAM00112 with the sandwich dial and display case back and no other watch at that price point even comes close.
@@bigmacdaddy1234 I completely agree with you. I also think they make great watches but I still feel they have a lot of work to do to justify pricing.
@@JamesMaccarone They are pricey for sure, but that is the price of admission for luxury goods.
@@bigmacdaddy1234 Again, I would argue that a Breitling Heritage SuperOcean is probably more luxurious at half the price.
I have a Panerai PAM 048, it is 40mm and I love it in my 17cm wrist, is true that is a liitle bit chunky, but still great size!!!! I use it on original rubber strap or alligator, besides at the time it came with a deployant buckle.
As long as a watch can go in a swimming pool or snorkeling at the beach that’s good for me and 100m will do that. That IWC looks awesome ! It’s my favorite watch they produce right now. Would like to see a talking hands video of that
the watch on your wrist is what, you look across the room at your watch and it it looks just like every other watch out there. you have a Panerai on and you can tell exactly what it is and only Panerai can say that
Exactly, you either get this or you dont.
The general public is really in the market for watches 37mm-41mm and lugs under 50mm!
Judging by Rolex upping the size of the Submariner for the first time in over 60 years, Patek releasing largest cases in history at 42.7mm, I don't believe this is true at all.
I never thought I'd end up with a Panerai. On a whim, I saw a ceramic model, which I thought was PVD. Note..I did not follow Panerai and had no idea of their line-up.
I generally steer clear of PVD and DLC because they scratch way too easy...when the sale person said it was ceramic, I tried it on. Instant ❤ at first sight. I stewed for a week before I ended up buying it...not at the AD, as they refused to negotiate a dime off list. I picked up the PAM01441 ceramic gmt and I wear it constantly. Of course, I have a 7.5" wrist, so it's perfect. The best part is my dog can't patina this one like she likes to do with my other steel models.
As far as a 40mm, I don't know...I kind of like the beefy stance. The smallest I generally go is 40mm, so I'm not sure this would be for me. 42mm..maybe, but the 44 is just awesome.
Congrats!
That is a gorgeous watch! Some years ago, I offered a preowned dealer a Rolex Milgauss + $2K for one. They said no. Different times...
Panerai Luminor Marina Quaranta has a similar movement that Clifton Baumatic has with a closed case back. I would like to see an open case-back with their P.9010 calibre and 100m WR. I think I'm getting less than what I paid for when I'm buying a Panerai.
John, I totally agree with your take on this topic. I love Panerai. I have a Marina at 44mm and it has been in my watch box for 3 years. I would buy the 40 mm White Face. By the way most of my Friends that have left Panerai have moved to Rolex. A popular first Rolex after Panerai has been the Explorer II. Keep up the great content.
Thank you !
A brand is base on trust and all this have ruin the brand from collectors with all the unethical on limited edition scandal to modified “in-house movement “ . I still own a Panerai 44mm and I hope Richmont group really look into this and the brand can win back the trust of the watch community.
Eric, I just bought my Panerai PAM914 and I love it so much… I do own few Rolex’s, Cartier, Omega as well. But the Panerai is like a magic in my watch collection, the case size, the crown, the dial and the vintage look is just unbelievable piece to be added to any watch lover or collector!!!
@@alialghoul9459 Wow 🤩. Congratulations I am excited to see the PAM914 in the metal.
i always switch it up! i am putting back my pam 090 on my wrist and rolex in the safe!
Congrats to Panerai for finally coming out with a 40 MM watch. I still want to see Panerai make a dial that gets me more excited and leverages Italian styling. BTW, what type of movement does Panerai use?
They came out with the Pam050… 40mm case size on a bracelet.
They there use there own movement now, they used to use ETA movement
I have a 7inch wrist, my Panerai Due fits me perfect. A 40mm was to uncomfortable with the crown I also got the watch with the metal bracelet, ordered the blue strap with the cream stitching,with the blue dial looks and feels great.
In addition to the piece in the vid, the Luminor 10day gmt in blue is ridiculously gorgeous…they also have a few ceramic models that are nice as well…they will be just fine.
Bought the blue sunburst Quaranta two weekends ago. Love it.
I have been thinking about getting a Panerai for years. Every time I am close to pull the trigger something happens. I think the new PAM 1314 is absolutely gorgeous, and I am thinking finally I will have a Panerai in my collection.
So, did something happen again?
@@CayenneTurboDriver Nope. I finally got it. The watch is absolutely gorgeous. There are things that I don't like. The movement doesn't hack which is almost inexcusable at this price range. The second is that the watch doesn't have an open case. I bought the watch with my heart, so despite of those two things I am in love with it 🙂.
@@hugohernandez3651 Great! And remember: Good things have flaws. Like an old roadster, ready in your garage for a Sunday drive. ☀️
It always looks like John struggles to get out each word lol.
Not sure why he says "their last fighting chance",...the company is doing just fine with its sales revenues and has the backing of Richemont. It doesn't get better than that. I also visited both Panerai boutiques in NYC and they are very busy with lots of people buying up their watches despite Covid.
They are a watch packed with history and a unique story. They are also a great way to get attention and that seems to be important to most people in the watch collecting business. For various reasons, of course. The weakest part of the Panerai brand are generally the actual watch mechanics vs its competitors... with that said, I would estimate that 90 plus percent of luxury watch owners would have no idea if they had a $20 Japanese automatic movement transplanted into their $10,000 watch so ... but away if you like Panerai. I do . . . 🙃
It doesn't matter what strap they put on it. If you have a PAM, you will inevitably have a million straps.
This is the dream panerai!
Love my PAM048. The 40mm size is perfect for a lot of people. Classic style without being the size of a satellite dish.
For a while now I have noticed an increasing demand for smaller watches, I personally always harp that string LOL. Are you listening to this, Mr. Breitling? Nice watch!
Bring back the 40mm Radiomir, then Panerai will set the world on fire.
Panerai is a very nice and beautiful watch. The biggest concern is that they cannot justify the prices. Not to talk about the movmt misshaps
That green IWC is sharp
Yes, finally got into Panerai. Tried/Ordered a PAM01316. Even thought its "44" it glues to my wrist. AMAZING dial. -
I bought a pam00048. 40mm, 300m water resistance, also like the date magnification. People will say panerai has to be big… I just don’t care… I found a panerai that fits me and really like it. Kind of funny on how watch community complain that panerai don’t innovate and at the same time complain when they change the case size to accommodate smaller wrists.
How do you find the height?
Get to know that Panerai is still keeping up with the new trend now. Thanks for the review.
Panerai isn't on it's last chance. That's hyperbolic. You keep declaring the brand dead and it keeps breathing.
@r2l100 the brand continues to sell to people who like the style. And unlike other brands, there is no other that looks like their watches. So while the craze of the early 00s is dead, the brand is secure and stable.
I am all in for it. The old 40mm pam48, pam125, etc. looked like hamburgers. This is proportionate and looks like a scaled down original Luminor. I am getting a black dial. Thanks John P.
Besides the watch, by the way great watch on a great size, let's be honests one and for all, water resistance for watches is such a BS in general, i'm every now and then, maximum deepth I went it's been around 30 mts may be 35 mts which is actually a lot, if watches would really be resisting 50 mts for real or let's say 100 as most of them it's truly enough, many youtubers saying that 100mts should be enough for most of the people I would say it's not enough for just 1/100.000 people, deepths superior to 100 mts people really know what that means???... I would feel extremely satisfied with a real 50 mts water resistance watch
The depth rating is based on atmospheric pressure. 30 meters is really just splash proof. I would not swim with a 30 meter resistant watch. The min water resistance for a watch I would be comfortable swimming with is 100 meters.
@@cecaju9516 I know, that’s why I mention “if” they would resist truly 30 I would be already comfortable with it. Anyway, 100, 300, 1000 real depth is just a nonsense.
It’s such a confusing mismatch. I have an IWC mark viii which is 60 meters, but IWC say you can safely swim and snorkel with it. That’s how it should be I think, I shouldn’t need 100m rating for that.
@@jordifernandezescobar3889 agreed.
Luxury watches are pieces of ingeneering art. So flexing their RD muscles plus design is what attracts folks to them while paying extra $$. Your logic implies everybody would just be good with a 100$ Casio since they tell time just as well if not better let alone a smart watch.
Absolutely agree John. Can wait to try this piece, I have Pam111 and love so much with my 17cm wrist it’s fits right, because this luminor case, 1950case 44mm fits not well on me, in-house 40mm classic design it’s what we want for sure 👍😎
The essence of a panerai is It’s military roots, diver functions and large size for good underwater visibility. Going smaller and becoming a dress watch is not the right way. Watch collectors want authenticity.
I fully agree. Big oversized cases with open dials are what make Panerai unique. This is over saturation.
Good looking piece. I am tempted to get one
I just pay full price 7300 and I purchased the stainless steel band for 8100 ... it's silver is a very nice watch
A 40mm 'Destro' left handed version please Panerai!!!!
Great video, i have a Panerai 42mm gmt and absolutly love it, i think 40mm is a good move for the brand, i am a.diver and have omega, breitling and never ever take those watches in deep water we divers have computer watches for that so 100m is more than enough in real life, btw im waiting for your 22/20mm straps for my Panerai exactly 🙂
100m water resistant? I will allow it...Then again they should reduce the number of different variations. Their catalog should consist of the 3 main lines: Luminor, Radiomir and Submersible. Submersibles and Luminors should be always rugged 300m or more divers in sizes 40mm and bigger for Luminors and 42mm and bigger for Submersibles. Radiomiomirs can start at 38mm with 100m water resistant minimum. All models should come with an extra rubber strap indicating confidence in their diving capabilities. This also advertises the availability of different color straps to new customers. Special editions like Marenostrums should be just that: special and limited.
I wear my 45mm Radiomir pretty much everyday and my wrists are on the small side. For me the thickness is more of a problem than the diameter. Due i feel does have place in the world, still probably won't buy one unless for a his & hers collection. I feel like the trajectory that this brand is headed is to apeal to those who turned away from the brand just because of the size. And i genuinely think hit the nail on the head, and i really really hope that you are right. As a lover of the brand thank you so much for this video!
they made 40mm Luminor Marinas a long time ago..they are available pre owned
Owner of a beautiful Panerai Luminor 1950 3 Days Chrono Flyback !, I have only one question every time I see a Panerai on someone’s wrist!, IS IT REAL or IS IT FAKE ?.
Finally I think the only way back for Panerai!. Is to team up with Swatch ( Swatch X Panerai Watch) price at or about $250~$300 !.
Hang on a minuite, the Paneri was the cover star in last months Watchtime, and certainly in England theres some marketing but the new 100m are way off Pams USP, if Seiko can manage a 200m watch for £500 you can for 10x as much, oh and consider a better movement
You can buy a 300m water resistant panerai if you want it. You can also buy a 1000m water resistant panerai if you want it. Aren't the Rolex Yacht Master, GMT and Explorer models 100m water resistant also?
Well said. They're are very attractive now for newbie.
i like the due a lot!!
gonna be my next.
Panerai will attract haters and skeptics. But the design is so unique and iconic, it does grow on you.
To my mind, Richard Mille is another brand that just doesn't give a damn what the skeptics think, they are in the league of their own.
Tag Heuer Monaco is another design that will always gnenerate sketptics but it's so unique, it sets itself apart from every other watches that are conservative and safe but so normal. I have personally moved on from the normal to unique and distinctive.
Love this watch at 40mm in all three dial colours. Would never buy a 44mm as just oo big for me. I think it's overpriced though. Maybe they'll bring out a 40mm luminor base model. Hopefully!
Innovation!!!! 😂
Panerai is dead to me...just sold off my entire collection (10 watches) after they put the last nail in the coffin of my collecting relationship with the brand. Damaged my Luminor after a full service and then tried to make me feel like they were doing me a favor for fixing their mistakes. Shame on Panerai because I love their watches, but have now come to hate their shoddy customer service and lack of concern for destroying the faith of their "valued customers" in the brand. I turned in my 'Paneristi' membership card and will never look back.
I actually think the 42 was perfect. You cant reduce everything.. like how silly would a 40 mm Offshore be? Anyway, the 2 new models with orange accents were fantastic (but 44mm)
I love my PAM 326 Luminor Daylight Titanium 44. A watch for a man wrist.
I wished the white dial came out s as a radiomir
Ok, they finally came out with a more reasonable case size, but will they ever go out with something really new? 🤔
The problem with Panerai is they bring something new out too often. Look at the amount of cases sizes, case materials, dial colours etc they have released over the last 5 years. They need to go back to their roots and stick to the basics that made them so popular.
Probably not lol
@@JohnPWatches did they not invent case materials like Carbotech and BMG? Are they not the company that lead the way in the bronze craze?
@@craiglawlor2749 I was replying to the other poster.
@@JohnPWatches oh, ok🤔
What is maximum depth an alligator can swim?
I seriously doubt case size was their main problem. People are tired of the look.
Amen to responders praise of Pam 326
Pam 15 sub and 326 chrono are the great historical Panerai watches
Both simple
Pam’s glory days are 20 odd years ago
Panerai:No need for open back,titanium sublime,44mm readable so practicable,with titanium so light,iconic case that separates the watch from all others,bang around durable,titanium watch band unbelievablely comfortable,get your leather bands at dangerous 9 not Panerai,buy pre driven watches of their best years of production approximately 20 years ago(definitely worth the money)and enjoy this iconically historical watch brand
30m water resistance ?
1950 in 41mm Handwind, no seconds or date, below 4K. Yes please
I don't agree. The selling point of Panerai is the big open dials on oversized cases. That what makes them unique. They are period correct in size at 44 and 47mm. They now sell 38mm, 40mm, 42mm, 44mm and 47mm cases in Luminor alone. I think they are now releasing far too many models. Look at the value retention of their historic 44 and 47mm pieces compared to all of these new sizes. If you want a 40mm watch, there are hundreds out there. If you want a Panerai, buy a 44 or 47mm in my opinion. That's what Panerai is for.
I am really looking forward this watch. It is certainly not worth the asking price, but here in the UK don't give discounts at all. So I'm on the fence. More importantly the store I frequent said these are not readily available as of now and mainly boutique only. So lets see how this plays out in the end. I might get one. Having said that, I am also one of the few people who actually don't mind the Due either.
Hello John, thank you for this review. I think you should go to politics, you speak so much and the watch itself could be covered in less than 3 mins easy. :)
Thanks! lol
I love the designs, don’t love the super high price, but also 100m WR is Ok but should be higher. Also why use exotic animal strap instead of a bracelet or Italian rubber?!
Lolling at people who want 40mm panerai. Panerai has a particular case which is not suitable for tiny miny sheeps. It should stick to 44 45 and lowest should be 42. Just have good colors and better complication options across the whole range.
Nothing about the movement? Is it true that the movement doesn't hack? Why would that be? Is the movement in-house. Is this watch a decent value proposition?
it’s a panerai not a cartier … it’s a tool it should be 300 m water resistant
A $7k "dive watch" with a snap on case back?? I don't think so lol
Sorry but the new watch isn’t that innovative on their part!
Their old watches which had 8 days(if memory serves me right) were innovative but deteriorated prematurely over the stress of the main spring force on the pivot. Why didn’t they do a bit of R&D before offering these to the public.
They should use a team of designers for starters and bring something hot & new!
Sorry to be a party pooper!
John
The production of this watch clearly cut corners and that’s disappointing. No reason why this watch should have a SnapBack case. Should the day date not have a twin lock crown because it’s a dress watch? There’s heritage and sticking to brand ethos which this model doesn’t fully represent which is a missed opportunity.
Are you serious? At the beginning and end of this video you’re advertising for straps and in the middle of the video you ask who needs more water resistance for a watch that has crocodile straps? Straps can be changed as this is no traditional dress watch. You look at this watch and expect it to be water resistant. Are 100 m sufficient? Sure! But are 100 m what is expected from the brand and from this design?
100m WR panerai. idk.
Too expensive for plastic cases. Panerai out prices itself.
Every dog has its day, and my god, didn’t they take advantage of their popularity. Well the party is over for them, and IMO rightly so. Special edition after special edition, poor customer service, advertising fakes, Divers that weren’t divers, not to mention Brooklyn Bridge.🤦🏻♂️
You had a good run, lads, but good luck and hype have caught up with you.
Sorry. Its still too big and boistreous. Too much watch for 2022
Hacking?
A smaller watch.
Nine minutes of long-winded blubbering by this dork, just to say “smaller watch”.
Waffle
Panerai and 40mm do not go along well together. The watch might look like Panerai but its not in its core. Oxymoron at its finest.
Nothing like people talking about and ‘reviewing’ watches they don’t physically have in their hands. Lame. Don’t care about your opinion.
he talked a lot ,,, and said nothing.
Panerai, has to be one of the most ugliest watches ever made in history! Wouldn’t take one even for free, totally disgusting watch company!
30M WR lololololol