Can a 3D printed enclosure get low?
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- Опубліковано 7 лип 2019
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it took about 1 minute in to realize I don't know shit about audio. Great stuff!
lucky you, it took me ten seconds.
@@MrSenolan 0.1nanosecond.... THE FLASH!
I knew from the thumbnail......
same here
you and me both person you and me both
Holy shit so much bass from such a tiny package. Mind blown.
Tiny?? It's enormous, IMO
Milton B I think Victor means over all size is HUGE!. I'm sure if you took the speakers from the Bluetooth and put them in the same box layout as the 3" driver you would have something better than both. :-)
A teufel rockster cross is smaller i guess and produces more bass😄
@@mxz2024 How flat/even is the bass response on the Teufel? That's the biggest problem with such a small speaker. You can get a lot of bass with the right enclosure, sure, but there will be huge spikes and drops depending on the exact frequency. Ideally you'd want the response graph to show a perfectly flat line from 25hz up to 100hz, but with such a small cone amplified by such a crazy chamber it turns the graph into a bucking bronco.
@@djhenyo true but i prefer a bit more deep bass since its more fun and for an outdoor speaker its better to have a bit boosted bass
Overall teh teufel cross spund good for a portable speaker and is rugged.
I thought the bass part was badly distorted so I googled the original and it turns out the output of your speaker is exactly what the song sounds like. What I thought must have been distortion is the result of how the artist created the song. This was an excellent video showing what can be done with a solid design and made DIY. Nobody would have thought this possible only 20 years ago. Great job!
You need a video of that woofer just in a small sealed cube for comparison.
Using a sealed enclosure requires double the power to achieve the same level of sound so it's very inefficient and mainly used for people that demand small enclosures and don't care about power usage, but it will be very tight bass response.
@@npham54 It's very efficient at damping, hence... Well, any serious high quality of reproduction speaker will be a sealed box. Unless we go into esoteric shit like infinite baffle.
@@NGC1433 what do you mean 'esoteric shit like infinite baffle' Im sorry it may be due to the fact that im not a native english speaker , but i really dont understand what that means exactly
@@baronnashor158 The baffle is the face of the box that the driver is mounted in. The purpose of a box is to keep the sound waves from the back from destructively interfering with the sound coming off the front. A sealed box does this by damping the back wave, but it limits bass response since the sealed air chamber acts like a spring trying to resist movement of the driver.
A long tube like this design allows the back wave to come out in phase with the front (at the tuning frequency) which then adds to the front sound wave, making for more bass. The tricky part is to get a broad enough tuning to avoid the huge peaks and valleys in the response which give that boomy one note bass sound.
An infinite baffle is really just a giant wall that the speaker driver is mounted in. No box to add damping and limit excursion, and since it is 'infinite' the back wave will never come around the outside and interfere with the front wave. Nor wil it reflect off the inside of the enclosure and push on the cone. Infinite baffles sound amazing, but as you can probably guess are not even remotely affordable, or portable. It's what you do if you can afford to build a house around your stereo.
@@belstain thanks I always wondered what infinite baffle is when I see it on AVS forums and other places but never cared to look it up. Very interesting.
oh shiiiit im not even into audiophile level equipment but this video was very interesting, cheers mate
This is actually science, not audiophile pseudo-science where most of it is made up to add ridiculous price tags on basically thin air.
the driver has pretty poor frequency response range for high end audio gear, but this is still impressive output for a 3d printed enclosure
@True WingChun Sounds like you got your cable directions mixed up, better order some more Shunyata Sigmas buddy. All he said was this is real science, there are gains to be had on certain things yes. But most of the super high end audio equipment out there is never worth it. You *can* get gains from cables and other things sure, but that's on the level of like.. making sure you're not buying shitty RCA's from Walmart. Going beyond a certain level is just chasing perfection, and if you're after that level of perfection you might as well hire the band to play in your listening room every time you want to hear them.
@True WingChun this should be a copypasta if it isn't already
there's a lot of noise in the lower end, but the fact that something so tiny can output that much bass is nuts. it's not super high quality, but i'm sure you could design one that is. i feel like this one was just to get the point across. very impressive.
I'm a simple engineer. I see a 3D printed enclosure for speakers done by Hexibase I click like.Its that simple!
Just imagine the sound bar you could make with two of these and the appropriate mid-range and tweeters. Even without a floor mounted separate sub. Nice work.
TheCgOrion I have been looking into passive soundbars and i think you’re absolutely right! I am looking into making a passive LCR soundbar that you can power with any 5.1 receiver or like you stated, a 2.0 sound bar that will actually sound good when listening to music
The quality of that mic tripped me out
Very impressive! Looking forward to seeing the revisions for this enclosure.
Anyone else notice that he splits the video *on beat*?? Details covered, my man. Subscribed!
Bravo my man! You put together this video very well from the material to the details, please keep up the great work! I would enjoy seeing more builds like this with different drivers and enclosure types!
Thanks for the info. Designed and 3D printed my own case. Followed similar straight line approach and got surprisingly excellent response. Fits perfectly in the back seat of my old school 325 convertible with a simple 100watt sub amp.
When he took his "ears" and walked out of the room... Holy shit. Subbed, Bud. This is impressive.
I was so hoping for a download link for the box to print for myself lol
@@HexiBase sort of looks like you could create a slot type setup if the wall thickness isn't an issue for strength with that filament. Maybe a little smaller male portion to allow for a good amount of epoxy to ride in the slot and glue the two together. Probably don't need the wave profile if you do the slot.
@@HexiBase If you haven't already, try printing the two halves flat, then lightly sand to knock down any imperfections, then JB weld. You could also attempt plastic welding, certain chemicals will melt the surface of certain plastics, making them 'weld' together; though I'm not sure how effective this would be over that much surface area.
Because of the complexity of the inside of the box, if sanding then bonding doesn't resolve the issue, you may have to get more creative in how you print this.
@@HexiBase I'd love to have the plans to print the box even at it's current state. :) Great work! Maybe make it downloadable for a donation or a small fee? :)
If it would've been Printed in ABS, Acetone is a great "seal and bonder" for ABS. I glue my ABS prints primarily with Acetone, as it feels after drying like on solid piece.
But great work you did Anyways.
Printing that with most normal Printers might be hard, specially warping might be critical. I have a delta, I can't print it, Printbed is round...:D
You could have a slot on one side with a raised ridge on the other. Fill the slot with epoxy and put em together! Should work to seal any leaks.
Huge difference! Really appreciate your approach, that’s some nice equipment and skills to match.
I saw people mentioning you on the 12VTalk podcast I was on. I don't know why UA-cam hasn't recommended more of your videos to me. You're amazing! Your level of knowledge and ability to explain is off the charts to me. Thank you! Subscribed!
always impressed with your skills!
DIY speaker video where the maker actually knows stuff about audio, this is something you dont see often or at all really lol I love this a lot man
Bro this sounded so freaking cool. I love how you switched between the speakers on the beat. It sounded SOO GOOD. Felt like some sort of lofi mix or something. Lovin the vibes~!
Wow! That's quite a HUGE difference, amazing! Great work.
It it quite impressive. Sound wave is so amazing 😍.
Of Course it can!!! I've been looking at that sub FOR a while just never could think of any application to use it in
Absolutely loved what you did with that T-Line! Incredible!
Just came here out of curiosity as I do a lot of 3D modeling and printing. Amazing to see what audiophiles are doing with the 3D printing technology. Thank you for sharing and the time & effort in preparing everything. Cheers!
For the bass that it handles, instead of JB welding smooth surfaces, I would use the middle 50% of all of the walls to make a tongue and groove. It will increase the area of the adhesion surface, and eliminate any air leaks you may get from separation on smooth surfaces.
Finally a channel with content on audio equipment with a solid technical background. Subscribed
Excellent test. Shows the MASSIVE potential for this type of application.
Feeling inspired, took me back to my days in car audio/electronics. they sounded like they needed to be played together to get full range.... nice project and thorough .. thanks
This is reminiscent of Dr. Bose at MIT. His work in the area of direct reflect speaker design led the way for the entire miniaturization of home audio. It also made him a few bucks in the process! 😉 Noise cancellation was only theoretical before he started experimenting and then he mastered it. I definitely think there is so much possible with 3D printing it should push consumer audio to amazing places just like u have done here! Nice work.
The driver with the 3d printed enclosure sound soooo fine.
I remember like 15 years ago, when my brother an I built our own subwoofer enclosures with particle board and we had this 18" sub with a shallow deflection and I put it in the apartment I lived in during my apprenticeship. It was a bass horn and the low end rumble carried 6 stories down into the basement. It was like someone was running a asphalt steam roller through the building. The music wasn't even that lout but the tuning of the driver and the enclosure was bang on with the resonance frequency of the building. That was the first time we utilized a software to determine the dimensions we needed. MADE ALL THE DIFFERENCE. You can't just slab together a box and hope it sounds good. You will always maximize the sound by using the displacement and range you want the driver to work in.
Thanks for sharing, you woke a childhood memory I cherish a lot. Especially thinking of the people that came out on the streets, looking up and wondering what the rumble was...you couldn't actually trace the woofer very well at all, the building resonated THAT WELL with it. Think of a sub the size of a 8 story apartment block 100m long haha.
Oh and the bass horn was the size of a dresser and weight in at 70kg, including the woofer.
This takes me back to the days when me and my friends created sub boxes with wood. We came up with many differant designs and some were very successful.
Great fun for an aspiring engenieer back in the day. Awsome technology to play with today.
That would actually work great in a car audio application where space is an issue. That box would fit perfectly under my seats or in the back of my 4runner.
CAMYOTA R.C. You wouldn’t get much bass out of the 3 inch though
@@JacobEcret lmao what if you just print a big ass one in pieces and put a sub in THAT
@@joshd7438 use wood. faster and cheaper.
@@digibluh different sound
@@joshd7438 wood almost always sounds better
It'd be cool to see a stereo version of this, and with Bluetooth and AUX in. but I know this is the "Beta" version
Love how u did this great way to compare
Nothing seemed rushed - super clear and to the point. I liked, and I subscribed.
defiantly needs a tweeter or small full-range from 500hz up lol
Yes but it is a subwoofer so what do you expect
Or just buy 2 of these. Build 500 Hz crossovers and get 2 inch tech BMR drivers for the mids ands highs. You will get pretty decent bookshelf speakers out of the build.
Gabriel Vieira granted but he was talking about using this as a Bluetooth speaker,unless I misunderstood. I bet it could actually sound really good if you matched it to a full range like David suggested
He was talking about getting the proper sound with the speaker using technology like the 3d printer making it possible to dial in the exact specs and the speaker truly performs to its fullest ability. He sad this was a subwoofer, not a Bluetooth replacement. He was showing the difference in sound vs a Bluetooth for bass response as most Bluetooth speakers has a pair of 2" sometimes larger woofers normally with bass radiator.
bass should be rooted to the front next to sub. 1" apart in the middle
I dont know how I ended up with your video, but I’m glad i did. It is truly an amazing demonstration.
I’m an instant fan and subscribing!
Obviously I don’t know what you do with these boxes you build. Might i buy the completed speaker from you - if no one has already asked?
IslandBoy Slot You could ask someone to print it for you
@@maxs.8146 Klixtra ;)
@@Max-do6yj anyone making the boxes he created to sell ?
First off, this is the first video of yours that I've stumbled across, and MY GOD. Such a great quality video, the work and effort that went into making sure everything was thorough, bravo! Second, the bass you managed to get out of that little guy is insane! Makes me want one!
That was awesome! I cannot believe how beautiful that bass line was.
I have a pair of that TB, any chance you could make the cad available to print at home?
Can’t like this one enough! Impressive to say the least
Outstanding! Stunning audio from your home made sub. Respect.
You are awesome dude!
I'll definitely do this.
Thx for sharing your passion and project 🤙🏻
Restoring faith in traditional speakers vs. Bluetooth noisemakers.
I like the way, even the headphones (plural) are organized in his studio.
Thanks for sharing [shake]
The quality of his enclosure and the sub have nothing to do with being wired vs wireless. He could hook this up to a bluetooth receiver and it would sound the same. He actually seems to have the bluetooth "noisemaker" directly wired in. So that's fairly irrelevant.
jbl bluetooth speakers sound good
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Amazing. Maybe a groove for an o-ring and wholes for screws to hold it together.
Read that as “whores for screws to hold it together”
You work with great professionalism.
I like your seriousness and details.
His passion is a reference
This is an awesome video - great description of the project!!! Thank you!
I'm glad for listening this difference on my 5.1 and not on my phone. :-D
your 3D printed one sounds way better than a mass-produced one
Yea, those mass producers "fudge" their numbers to where you don't know what you're truly getting, and what you do get sounds rough and limited in its performance. Massive room for re-design and improvement. This is genius designed and makes those poor mass produced subwoofers feel inadequate, and cry with bass envy, and are in massive need for therapy to work through their inadequacy issues. Some of those mass produced guys turn to alcoholism, break down, and crack their speaker frames introducing a noticeable rattle that makes them feel even more inadequate until one day they end it all and burn up their voice coils. Better to be non existent than be a sub par sub woofer.
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yeah but 100times more expensive :D
@@banny123456 its not 100 times more expensive if you already have 3d printer. its only like 5 times more expensive ?
not quite... the other one is a smallbox player/speaker.... compared to a bigbox player/speaker of sony or jbl, the printed one wont be THAT much better
dont forget this is just a speaker, nothing more...
Combine this with some Raspberry Pi stuff, a bit of bluetooth, an SDR tuner unit, a small touch screen, about 4 18650 rechargeable lithium batteries, a few buttons and/or quaternary encoder knobs, the right amplifier circuit, and you'd be able to make a completely modern boombox better than you could currently get at the store.
Thumbs up for all the effort and resisting the temptation to make this vid longer than needed. Good job.
Wow. It sounds so good. You are operating on another level, man.
U just made your own beat 😂 by shifting the video between two speaker
i should build one of those on a larger scale in my subfloor into the basement where my theater room is. omg!
That would be cool as hell! Let me know when you get it done and I'll come over and we'll watch a good movie with some amazing action and bass... JK 😁
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if that's your "theater" sub. prob won't sound much like a theater. but sitting outside at a cookout or something...
p.s. you can still build your own custom sub (parts express) but i wouldn't go with a 3" driver.
Very beautiful enclosure design!
This is highly useful. I have a couple of drivers from a Bose wave system that had the mad idea to create 3D printed enclosures for. This is a great proof of concept for my project. Thanks so much for this!
You should design a complete 3d printed bluetooth speaker (boombox) with a deep bass.
I am convinced that it will sound very good.
Greetings from Poland :)
Dang it hits so deep and low and its basically a computer subwoofer thats crazy. I subscribed for sure lol
This is how they make bass drivers for space limited devices like phones and tablets. If you open one up, you'll see a sealed rectangular chamber, with a similar pattern inside.
Just wow. That bass is remarkable in the comparison!
You’re a madman! Nice work!
Like some others commenting, I'd very much appreciate the STL/CAD file to download! Either way, thanks for the vid... Subbed!
Sounds nice (at least through UA-cam and my headphones)
You are fantastic and I will be sharing your channel and info in my future videos. Such great view
Extremely well done. Nice calculated and build.
Damm thats damm impressive! But i see from the woofer design itself..its quite capable to produce good sound quality..
Subbed!
@Apollo Smile literally 😂
double damn
Dann that damn damn!
For a better seal you can always make a female/male sides so when you put them together they seal better. With some silicone in the slot around it should have a perfect seal, some screws for added rigidity and longer lifespan would be great as well to avoid the 2 pieces from separating. A
Also it sounds very empty. It definetly needs a tweeter or a full range to lift the highs a little.
Great box nonetheless
That’s wild dude!! Sounds amazing!!
I can’t believe I found you again!! You have been amazing me since the tv speaker boxes. You’re amazing!
Finally a yt vid with audio quality that actually does justice to my ultimate ears.
When you finish tweaking the design, can you post up the download link for it? Id be veryy happy to pay for it. Amazing video as always!
Wow! Absolutely impressive work!
Man you got me hooked, Awesome video and such an amazing set up. Until next time Have a great week.
Was expecting to hear the comparison with a regular sub bass box not a tiny Bluetooth radio.
Good video and info though, I was wondering if my PLA Bluetooth sound system I'm building would produce good bass.
True audio geek shit... i love it.. the ppl who dislike this video just didn't understand the concept... and they never will👍🏾👏🏾🤘🏽
ok wow ...what a sound, lovely
This video quickly sparked my interest... It did not take long for me to subscribe to your channel! I’m sure I will learn A LOT about Audio from now on.
you just first who make video like this, about concert speakers and other audio system. i have concert speakers and amplifiers. your channel best ever. i from Ukraine
Love these videos! Mini deep hitting subs. Would it be possible to make an enclosure design in the spare wheel well? That could be quite an interesting video. Or just a video on how to get deep bass in a small enclosure :)
@@bent540 wow so helpful and kind what a wonderful human beinf you are
That is an awesome idea.
Some people hide behind their monitor and fuels themselves by insulting others. I just Hope he has a world of bad luck his way.
On another note! Yeah, it's a great idea for a video i think :)
There are many subwoofer enclosures for spare wheel wells. JBL make one that you can add to any car.
@@unintentionallyfire I know. But it would still be awesome to build a custom box that is perfect ly Tunes with for example a DD Redline 6.5 or 2 of them. Or a drone tuned box. Those jbl Boxes and what ever sound fine i guess. But a custom made box that is tuned to a spesific driver will always be better in my world :)
Can’t believe how well the bass is playing low so far away at 7:45 from that little driver
Holly molly! I did *NOT* anticipate so much on the low-end with a 3-incher! You have some real dedication in these, man! 🙌 Cheers!
I would love to see this same principle applied in a three-way box 40-250hz 250-2000hz 2k- 20k with a sub box handling 60hz-40hz and another sub for 40 and below, as low as the 3d printed stuff will let you go
Should have explained what you thought it was equivalent to retail wise. Based on the binaural mic the bluetooth speaker sounds tiny, and the bass on the 3d print is impressive but distorted. Should have included a direct clip of the track for reference as well.
francis chow the song has distorted sounding bass which doesn’t help.
Man that’s unbelievable for a 3” speaker! You are the Man! Wow!
Damn...that rocks! Sweet....I could only imagine similar enclosure for a 10" or 12" in Sub..wow!! Thanks!!!!
real question, can it get as low as lil jon says to?
F*** lil jon, id rather get high!
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Lil Jon, is that someone that knows about bass or something? I see here that he does something called bass boosting...
JK! 😁😁😁
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this video really blew up pete, more people are finally seeing your brilliance
@@HexiBase Lol nice! Btw how low is that? Did anyone check? ))
*plays with realtek equalizer* "Yep, sounds good!"
Wow sounds really great
Just, wow. This is what I call amazing
awesome. now for a 4 piece that you can put a 10" in. haha. but thats pretty dang cool
Yeah I am thinking of trying to do something like this with an alpine type r 10" I have 2 12" but think the box would need to be a lot bigger. Hell if a 3" can sound like that maybe just knock it down to an 8" or two. My 12's in shitty boxes can hit pretty hard, I wonder how much better they would be with something like this.
The units were cut off on the predicted and actual frequency response graphs, is the box peaking at 33Hz? If so, is it proper to say this box is tuned at 33Hz? Thank You
It is simply amazing how some box can make a 30 watt speaker sound like a 200 watt one, just amazing,btw good job bro
Such a smart dude, you rock man.
Note to self based on this video: Big box small woofer = Big Sound , Tiny Enclosure Miniature speaker = Lilliputian sound
Yep I'm getting me there one of them 3d printer soon. F buying home audio any more. Time to build 🤯.
Wow man... your the baddest builder I've seen on here with acoustics wow! You are the man!
This popped up in my recommended and I’m blown away all this shit is so complex, good job
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Max Lindner you funny 😆
Now imagine one of them 20'' subs in one of these cases. (no air leaks included.)
That will crack some walls.
obviously scaled up since it wouldnt even work without it being scaled up like 6.66x
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Or the print
That will crack the plastic
It'd sound terrible given that the unit alone would be larger than the entire box, absolutely would not fit the 3" mounting hole, and box volume would be waaaaay too small for a unit of that size.
Well, you did say _"in that EXACT case"_ ...
This is similarly structured to the Bose Wave radio, except they put two bass speakers in about the same sized package. Each speaker has it's own (shorter) tube that converge together, therefore possibly cutting down on the wavelength necessary for supporting the super deep frequency your model seems to hit. Grats on this awesome design!
Damn! That works quite well, I didn’t expect it to work this well